Lots of S-Off/Root Questions

Lots of S-Off/Root Questions - HTC EVO 3D

I have a lot of questions about this stuff. If someone knowledgeable could quote each one and answer them it would be very much appreciated.
1. Currently I am S-Off via Revolutionary but I am not yet rooted and I havent flashed a recovery tool such as Clock work or Team Win. All I have done so far is got S-Off. What is my next step?
2. On the OG evo you just held the volume down and power button to get to the screen where you can flash roms and stuff. How do you get to it on the 3D? I havent flashed Team Win yet it that why it isnt working?
3. What exactly is the difference between S-Off and root? I thought S-Off meant you were rooted and could flash roms etc. What does root do for you that S-Off does not?
4. What do I need to back up? I didnt think of backing up before I got S-Off. Is that ok? What do I need to do to make sure that I can make my phone like it was out of the box with S-On if I need to? Should I Nandroid backup before I root? Was I supposed to back up before I got S-Off?
5. Are there any good Roms out yet? What are the best things I can do once I am rooted?
That is all for now thank you so much!

Go to revolutionary and read, the answers are there.

davec1234 said:
Go to revolutionary and read, the answers are there.
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I did read all that. Not one of my questions were answered there.
Someone be kind and answer I know there are places to get this information but it is spread out and hard for me to find.

todah09 said:
I am nowhere near the level user you need but I will try a few;1. You need a recovery(twrp or clockwork....2.that will take you to fastboot same as if EVO.3.I think s-off has more to do with security,and root has to do with permissions.(don't quote me in that )4.I didn't backup either..you should be fine.you might have the network error ...(no bid deal.)5. Download titanium backup, and do a nandroid backup.(after recovery.)
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Ok so do I go ahead and put TWRP on my phone or do I backup first? Will I be able to return my phone to stock if I need to?

In some uncertain terms, S-OFF allows you to obtain root. Imagine root is like the administrator account on your Windows PC (i.e. when you right-click and "run as administrator" you're running a program as "root"). Root of course is the linux user name for the admin, head honcho, whatever. If you had S-ON, your phone would see that you're trying to up your lowly status from user to root, and stop you like a ton of bricks. Or if you managed to hack your phone and circumvent it, s-on would find out and **** you and your children up. (or just take away your root).
Anyway, you need to do 3 steps here to fully modify your phone.
1. Obtain S-OFF
2. Flash a custom recovery, because the default one sucks and doesn't let you do stuff.
3. Install a program that allows you to manage and grant superuser (root) access to programs that require it (such as wifi-tether).
You're on step 2.
You'll need the following. The android-sdk and also a recovery to flash. You can google the android-sdk. The newer one has made things a little complicated, so I will try to walk through that.
When you obtain and install the android-sdk, you'll need to download the platform tools for it. So start the SDK Manager.exe. It'll pop up with some "choose packages to install". Cancel that crap. Click on 'Available Packages' and expand 'Android repository' and select 'Android SDK Platform-tools, revision 6'. This will install ADB, which you may have used in the past.
Power off your phone (pull battery). Hold down the volume rocker and press power button. It should load into a white screen. From that white screen you can scroll down and select 'fastboot' with the power button. Fast boot is how we're going to flash a recovery, in this case TWRP. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Throw that img file into your android-sdk\platform-tools directory.
Open up a command prompt and CD to your android-sdk\platform-tools directory.
You can flash the new recovery by entering the following command:
Code:
..\tools\fastboot.exe flash recovery recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img
What you're doing is running fastboot.exe (which is located in the android-sdk\tools directory, but requires and adb dll file located in platform-tools, hence the topsy turvery method here. You're telling it to flash a new recovery image, and then you're telling it where on your computer that image is.
Once it's done, you can reboot your phone, and now you have recovery. Next you'll need to obtain a super user program so you'll have root. People generally use, 'superuser'. I think the easiest way to grab this is to just download it's zip to your phone and flash it in recovery. Grab the zip for flashing from here.
You should be s-off'd, have a recovery and rooted by now. As a disclaimer, I assume no responsibility if this screws up your phone.
EDIT:
To answer some of your other concerns. You'll want to backup prior to flashing any ROMs. You won't really be able to backup anything of value prior to flashing recovery. If you need to return to stock there are RUU ROMS on the developer forum. If you flash that in recovery, you'll lose root (and I think s-off) and be cast into the world of yesterday. If you're still concerned at this point, I would refrain from attempting to root your phone and maybe have a buddy do it.

jedinegotiator said:
I did read all that. Not one of my questions were answered there.
Someone be kind and answer I know there are places to get this information but it is spread out and hard for me to find.
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Must have not read the QandA very well..
And post QUESTIONS in the QUESTIONS and answers. Keep this forum nice and tiddy

jedinegotiator said:
Ok so do I go ahead and put TWRP on my phone or do I backup first? Will I be able to return my phone to stock if I need to?
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yes,you need a recovery in order to do a nandroid backup........

sidepart said:
In some uncertain terms, S-OFF allows you to obtain root. Imagine root is like the administrator account on your Windows PC (i.e. when you right-click and "run as administrator" you're running a program as "root"). Root of course is the linux user name for the admin, head honcho, whatever. If you had S-ON, your phone would see that you're trying to up your lowly status from user to root, and stop you like a ton of bricks. Or if you managed to hack your phone and circumvent it, s-on would find out and **** you and your children up. (or just take away your root).
Anyway, you need to do 3 steps here to fully modify your phone.
1. Obtain S-OFF
2. Flash a custom recovery, because the default one sucks and doesn't let you do stuff.
3. Install a program that allows you to manage and grant superuser (root) access to programs that require it (such as wifi-tether).
You're on step 2.
You'll need the following. The android-sdk and also a recovery to flash. You can google the android-sdk. The newer one has made things a little complicated, so I will try to walk through that.
When you obtain and install the android-sdk, you'll need to download the platform tools for it. So start the SDK Manager.exe. It'll pop up with some "choose packages to install". Cancel that crap. Click on 'Available Packages' and expand 'Android repository' and select 'Android SDK Platform-tools, revision 6'. This will install ADB, which you may have used in the past.
Power off your phone (pull battery). Hold down the volume rocker and press power button. It should load into a white screen. From that white screen you can scroll down and select 'fastboot' with the power button. Fast boot is how we're going to flash a recovery, in this case TWRP. Get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192077
Throw that img file into your android-sdk\platform-tools directory.
Open up a command prompt and CD to your android-sdk\platform-tools directory.
You can flash the new recovery by entering the following command:
Code:
..\tools\fastboot.exe flash recovery recovery-twrp-shooter-1.0.0.img
What you're doing is running fastboot.exe (which is located in the android-sdk\tools directory, but requires and adb dll file located in platform-tools, hence the topsy turvery method here. You're telling it to flash a new recovery image, and then you're telling it where on your computer that image is.
Once it's done, you can reboot your phone, and now you have recovery. Next you'll need to obtain a super user program so you'll have root. People generally use, 'superuser'. I think the easiest way to grab this is to just download it's zip to your phone and flash it in recovery. Grab the zip for flashing from here.
You should be s-off'd, have a recovery and rooted by now. As a disclaimer, I assume no responsibility if this screws up your phone.
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Thank you so much kind sir. Thanks given to you and todah Edit: Coffee too

Edit: Someone answered it very well before i had a chance to finish typing..

jedinegotiator said:
Thank you so much kind sir. Thanks given to you and todah Edit: Coffee too
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i thank you too..

Maybe I should clean this document up and post a guide. I know there are a few already but they're a little kludgy if you don't know what you're doing.

Earned a thanks from me on that very well-done post, sidepart. Even though I'm not personally in need of the info therein contained, it was certainly a refreshing change from the self-absorbed useless replies typically found following a noob's request for guidance when diving into this root stuff.

Guide Posted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1193680
GO FORTH! And Good Luck.

jedinegotiator said:
I have a lot of questions about this stuff. If someone knowledgeable could quote each one and answer them it would be very much appreciated.
1. Currently I am S-Off via Revolutionary but I am not yet rooted and I havent flashed a recovery tool such as Clock work or Team Win. All I have done so far is got S-Off. What is my next step?
2. On the OG evo you just held the volume down and power button to get to the screen where you can flash roms and stuff. How do you get to it on the 3D? I havent flashed Team Win yet it that why it isnt working?
3. What exactly is the difference between S-Off and root? I thought S-Off meant you were rooted and could flash roms etc. What does root do for you that S-Off does not?
4. What do I need to back up? I didnt think of backing up before I got S-Off. Is that ok? What do I need to do to make sure that I can make my phone like it was out of the box with S-On if I need to? Should I Nandroid backup before I root? Was I supposed to back up before I got S-Off?
5. Are there any good Roms out yet? What are the best things I can do once I am rooted?
That is all for now thank you so much!
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1. Your next step would be to flash the recovery (twrp is a good option) through fastboot, and then run the permanent root.
2. volume down and power button will get you to hboot. from there (once you have flashed a custom recovery (twrp or clockworkmod) you just scroll to recovery, select it, and it will load up. and yes it isnt working because you havent flashed it yet.
3. S-off is security off on the write protected partitions of the phone basically. it allows you to flash custom recoveries, roms, kernals, etc. Its a lot deeper than than, but thats the gist of it. Root will allow you to run certain apps on your phone and give them heightened privileges.
4. there isnt really much you can back up before s-off. other than temp rooting and doing titanium backup for your apps. thats fine that you didnt do anything but there isnt a way to backup s-on. you can get back to s-on but it sounds like it is pretty complicated. i havent personally tried s-on again yet because i have no interest in having s-on haha. you can nandroid backup before you root, but i personally did it after root.
5. there are a few roms out, but if your not a flashaholic i would wait for a few days or a couple weeks for the roms to be refined. in the meantime just enjoy tweaking your device and not having to re-root every time your phone reboots haha.
Let me know if you have any more questions!

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One question after unlock: 1 click root?

How do I install1 click root? I see the zip.
I'm unlocked and I don't wanna screw up now!
(I've read several of the search results but they're all for other phones and there seems to be variations in 1 or 2 of em.)

The download for it is right at the top of the first post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351596

Yes, I see it.
What do I do with it?

Click it once?

Hey don't sweat it. I enjoy a lil chuckle.
thks anyway

If I knew the answer I'd give it to you but I honestly don't have a clue. Still studying up on Rooting 101 to get ready to take the plunge.

Pull your battery, turn phone on, use the built in task killer, kill everything, make sure its set at charge only, debugging on. HTC sync NOT running, adb is killed on your computer, after you have unzipped the file, and all that is done, click on it, and follow the directions.
NOTE, it will say something to the affect of you now have perm root, and maybe to click a button, click the button, do NOT unplug your phone, comp will go to a new screen, reboot your phone, when it comes back on, you should be rooted.

You can also install amon ra and just boot to recovery. It has a nice root option from what I'm told
sent from my newly unlocked Rezound

pwned3 said:
You can also install amon ra and just boot to recovery. It has a nice root option from what I'm told
sent from my newly unlocked Rezound
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There's a guide for doing that here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1418653

I d/l the Amon file to my computer or phone?
(If the computer,) then I run the recovery.img from a command prompt?
Where does 1 click root come in? I need to root first, right?
I may have made a mistake last night. After unlocking, I "installed" the CWM image from a command prompt. The dos prompt confirmed it was successful. But it was not. I still do not have root.
I need root first, right?Or do I D/L the Amon with my phone?

[Q] stuck on white htc screen plz help!!

I rooted my rezound and wanted to update my rezound to ics os I followed the step exactly but when I rebooted I got stuck on the white screen. I took out the sd card and deleted the zip file and download the file again put the sd card back into the rezound but same thing. Now I can't get back to old 2.3.4 os i was using before because the post said do a wipe all data can someone help me with this to get my phone back to working order. I don't care if it is android 2.3.4 or ics 4.0 plase help.

I would first delete the PHzip file so you can start over.
Are you able to get into fastboot?
If so, check what mainver you are on with the following command:
fastboot getvar all
Also, check if you can get into recovery. Do you have Amon Ra on there? Did you make a nandroid before trying to flash ICS? If you made a nandroid and can get into recovery then restore that. If you didn't make one make a mental note to always make one before you flash ANYTHING on your phone.
If you can't restore, after you get your mainver, try to run RUU to get you back to stock. You need to relock the phone before running this.
Use the file from here that corresponds to your mainver:
http://www.filefactory.com/f/c2e320ee1d5c7886/
(Link from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1338916)
If your mainver is 3.xx then you are up to ICS and will need to find a thread about getting back from that mainver to stock. I know I've seen one or two.

I had that same screen after flashing my first ROM, and in my case it was that it couldn't install the lower mainver in the ROM kernel (most are 1.x) since I was already on 2.x from the OTA. You probably need a different kernel to flash that has your version. Look in Rezound Android Development for a thread titled [KERNEL] Assorted stock kernels, then get the one you need based on what you learn from the previous reply and flash in recovery.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA App

spitzaf said:
I had that same screen after flashing my first ROM, and in my case it was that it couldn't install the lower mainver in the ROM kernel (most are 1.x) since I was already on 2.x from the OTA. You probably need a different kernel to flash that has your version. Look in Rezound Android Development for a thread titled [KERNEL] Assorted stock kernels, then get the one you need based on what you learn from the previous reply and flash in recovery.
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This is the thread I believe:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22076459
If just the kernel doesn't work, another thing you can try besides RUU is flashing a Stock OTA ROM. You can use con247's Stock OTA ROM instead of running the RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21880389
Here are the steps to take to accomplish that:
1) use Amon Ra to flash con's vigorStock OTA ROM. It will do its thing then reboot to hboot. I think it then asks you if you want to update. Don't do it yet.
2) At this point you want to relock. So go into fastboot on the phone. Using adb/fastboot type the following at the cmd prompt:
fastboot oem lock
3) Reboot phone and let it flash the PHzip file. It should reboot completely when it's finished.
4) delete the PHzip file using a file explorer app like ES File Explorer or Root Explorer.
5) get the phone back into fastboot. Unlock again using adb/fastboot. I don't remember the exact command but you can find that in the guide for unlocking.
6) reinstall su using Amon Ra.
Now you should be stock OTA rooted with the new goodies.

i can't even get into the command promt it scolls down really fast and closes. when i went to sdk manager all the 4.0.3 boxes were checked does that mean i hane ics 4.0.3?

Sorry yes i can get into fastboot iv'e tried everything i can search for. Am gonna try getting a different kernel for the 4.0.3 ics

Well i install a custom rom and kernel but before i installed i did a wipe and restore to factory and i wiped delvek and then sared the install of new kernel and custom rom. am i missing somgthing. If i were to try to back up android 2.3.4 from my girlfriend lg revolution would i be abould to exract only the android 2.3.4 and erase the lg and somehow get sense 3.5. I dont know am new to this. I rooted the phone fine with no prob and i thought that an update would be easy. I did have amon ra but now i cant locate it on my sd card. I even tried the PH98IMG.zip thing and that didnt work. I will try anything please help and dont give up on me. Oh and is there another way to get the command promt up.

Everything you need can be found in these Rezound forums.
So you can get into fastboot. That's good.
Do you still have your computer set up from when you unlocked the phone? If not, download the mini sdk that MrSmith317 made that I've attached and place that in the C: directory of your computer and name it something easy, mine is named android-flasher. Then just always keep it there as you will need to use it often when modding your phone.
1) get the sdk working on your computer
2) On your phone, do a battery pull, then boot it into fastboot and then connect it to your computer.
3) Type the following at your computer's cmd prompt:
fastboot getvar all
and find out what mainver you are on.
* If you are on a mainver that starts with 3.x then you cannot run the RUUs. I will try to find out what you should do in that case. If your mainver starts with 1.x or 2.x then continue onto step 4.
4) Relock your phone by typing the following:
fastboot oem lock
5) Download the RUU for your mainver to your computer. Use the file from here that corresponds to your mainver:
http://www.filefactory.com/f/c2e320ee1d5c7886/
This is an exe file so just run it on your pc with your phone attached. I know you need to be locked, I think you need HTC Sync installed, so if it's not working search for those answers, it will work, others have done it. Now you are back to stock.
5) Unlock your phone again using the same unlock bin file you got before by putting it in the same folder you are now using for sdk. Type the following command:
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
If you don't have it obtain a new one by following the same steps you did before to get it originally. Here is a guide for that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20780879&postcount=1
Now you should be stock and unlocked.
6) Flash Amon Ra in fastboot. Get the lateset version, 3.13. here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?chpoxzb8bl4nn2b
Type the following command to flash it:
fastboot flash recovery recovery-ra-vigor-3.13-gnm.img
Now you should have Amon Ra on your phone.
7) Root your phone by installing su using Amon Ra. Go to the developer menu and find the option in there.
Now you should be stock, unlocked and rooted.
8) MAKE A NANDROID BACK UP NOW AND LABEL IT.
9) Flash a new ROM.
*** If your mainver is 3.x try this thread to see if you can come up with a method to go back to stock. I haven't looked into this since I have not ventured into ICS land as of yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459347
There are also some threads about getting back to stock from ICS I think so here are my search results for "stock ics" in the thread title and you can probably find an answer in there somewhere.
Hope this helps you get back up and running.

OK nevermind I got it. I just download mik roms and the kernel right under ineffabilis rom and the link for the kernal is right under it. I had to do the steps twice but it work finally like at 430 in the morning. I turned off the computer and went to bed. The first thing I did when I woke up was check my phone and it was still working. Phone calls,text wifi pretty much all features are working. So i decided to write an update to let anybody know that if you have trouble fixing white htc screen dont worry it can be fixed. Am verying new to this and if I can fix this anyone can. I will check back on this post to see if any needs help. Thank you for the people who tried to help me in my post. Now I can be one of the people who help others now that I know who to root and fix the white sceen.

If you haven't done so, make a nandroid right now so you can always go back to that if anything gets messed up.
The "people" who tried to help you was me, so maybe you can hit my "thanks" button.

Just a detailed messages of What I did.
1) I erased any PH98IMG.zip or any other roms I download so the sdcard should have no roms,kernels or anything you downloaded to fix the white htc screen. What I did was use my girlfriend LG Revolution to insert my sdcard to erase any roms or whatever I tried to use to fix before.
2) put the sdcard back into the same phone and hold down the - volume and the power key to get to HBOOT screen. On this part I always did the battery pull but I left the back cover off up to you if you want to put it back on I guess it doesnt really matter and connect your phone to your computer.
3) Push the volume button down til you get to recovery and push the power button once to select recovery.
4) push the -volume til you get to USB-MS TOGGLE and push the power button once. Now go to USB-MS Toggle SDCard now your SDCard is read by your computer.
5) Now go to this website and dont read everything just use download link about half way down the web page. Ineffabilis V1.0 make sure to skip the ad first then the real download should pop up. Now click SAVEAS and when the files come up to choose where to save left click once to highlight your SDCard or removeable stroage and click save. Now do the same thing for the download right under Ineffabilis V1.0 named stock rooted kernel (flash in bootloader)
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...-0-12-31-11-Sense-3-5-Beats-Tweaks-1-02-605-6
thank you so much guys from themikmik.com you saved my phone
6) After dowload is complete press power to disable USB-MS. Now push power once to return to recovery menu and disconnect your phone from the computer. Go down to wipe push power once to select. push power once on Wipe ALL data/factory reset and push power again to start the wipe. After that is done scoll down to Wipe Dalvik-cache after that is done go back to the recovery menu.
7) Now go to flash zip menu and push power once. Go to choose zip from sdcard now install the kernel and then the rom you downloaded.
9) once it is complete go to re boot system now and push the power button. and your done it will stay on the white screen for about 20 min and start up.
more info my s-on.
Just thought I would share this good luck.

bbarlow26 said:
OK nevermind I got it. I just download mik roms and the kernel right under ineffabilis rom and the link for the kernal is right under it. I had to do the steps twice but it work finally like at 430 in the morning. I turned off the computer and went to bed. The first thing I did when I woke up was check my phone and it was still working. Phone calls,text wifi pretty much all features are working. So i decided to write an update to let anybody know that if you have trouble fixing white htc screen dont worry it can be fixed. Am verying new to this and if I can fix this anyone can. I will check back on this post to see if any needs help. Thank you for the people who tried to help me in my post. Now I can be one of the people who help others now that I know who to root and fix the white sceen.
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Also erase or rename the PH98IMG.zip file from the root directory of your SDCARD. It could save you some headaches in the future.

How Eliminate Bootloops After Flashing ROMs on the HTC EVO 3D

-DISCLAIMER: DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE THIS GUIDE CAUSES YOU TO DO. THIS WORKED FOR ME, BUT RESULTS MAY VARY.-
-PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE GUIDE BEFORE FOLLOWING ANY STEPS TO AVOID ANY CONFUSION-
-THIS GUIDE ONLY APPLIES IF YOU ARE ROOTED WITH S-OFF ON HBOOT 1.58-
-IF YOU HAVE INSTALLED THE ICS OTA UPDATE THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE HBOOT 1.58, UNLESS YOU HAVE DOWNGRADED.-
-IF YOU HAVE DOWNGRADED YOUR BOOTLOADER AND ARE NOT ON HBOOT 1.58, LEAVE THIS PAGE-
-I ALSO RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE SD CARDS YOU CAN USE FOR THIS. NO DATA WILL BE DELETED OFF OF EITHER-
-KEEP IN MIND, THAT IF YOU DO THIS, YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BOOT BACK INTO YOUR STOCK ICS ROM FROM THE OTA UPDATE-
-YOU WILL ALSO NEED A MICRO SD CARD READER TO PLUG YOUR SD CARD STRAIGHT INTO YOUR COMPUTER-
If you are not rooted, and do not have S-OFF, check out this guide by crimsy. It has all the instructions you need to root and obtain S-OFF. It worked for me.
Now for the fun part. You're positive you're on HBoot 1.58, and you're getting bootloops when you flash roms. The fix is actually quite simple.
First, go to this thread by mpgrimm2
Scroll down until you see a post on the thread by ramjet73. This post contains a list of HBoot downloads. These are all free.
First, find the one that says "PG86IMG_JBear_1.58.5858_hboot_Sprint_ICS.zip". Download that to use as a backup.
Now, we're gonna go by exactly what I did. But I recommend you do your own research on which Hboot is the best for whatever ROM you're trying to flash.
First off, all of these are already S-OFF, so you wont need to redo the wire trick.
Anyway, I downloaded the first one on the list, "PG86IMG_1.40-hboot.zip".
Now, to install this, you're pretty much gonna trick your phone into "updating" to it.
To do this, just download the HBoot you've chosen to be the best for you (in my case it was the first one on the list, 1.4).
Now just rename that file to "PG86IMG" without quotation marks.
Next, copy it to the root of your SD card.
The rest takes place on your phone. Power off your phone, and boot into the bootloader (Hold volume down + power button).
If you've done the previous steps correctly, your bootloader should detect the HBoot you downloaded, and ask if you want to update.
Volume up= Yes
Volume down = No
If you're positive about this, then choose "Yes".
It should update and tell you to reboot.
This is where I ran into a problem. I was still running stock ICS from the OTA update, and I got stuck in a bootloop. My phone would freeze at the the Sprint animation, turn off, and repeat. I thought I could just disregard it, boot into recovery, and flash my new ROM. But every time I booted into the bootloader all I could do was either update or reboot. This is where that micro SD card reader comes in. Just pop your SD card into your computer, and remove the HBoot you downloaded. Then put your SD card back in your phone and try rebooting into the bootloader again.
If it boots into your bootloader as normal, then that should be it. You should be on whatever HBoot version you chose to download (this worked for me with 1.4)
Now try flashing that ROM again and let me know how it goes.
Keep in mind, different ROMS may have different results. You may still need to flash certain kernals or wipe specific partitions as instructed by the developer of the ROM you want to flash.
Feedback is appreciated.

I prefer to put the PG86IMG file on my sd card while booted up normally. Then reboot straight into recovery bypassing the hboot screen. Wipe, flash rom then boot into bootloader and run the update. This prevents getting bootloops and keeps you from having to use the computer to rename or remove the file. Saves you some work!
Sent from my PG86100 using Tapatalk 2

If you are S-OFF you can also flash a different bootloader from fastboot on a PC avoiding the need to deal with the PG86IMG.zip file at all, then boot directly into recovery from the new bootloader. See my post here for alternative methods to flash a new bootloader when S-OFF, including multiple ways to delete the the PG86IMG.zip file when flashing one from the current bootloader.
ramjet73

Theres also
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip PG86IMG.zip
fastboot reboot-bootloader
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enter recovery & clear cache then reboot.
I believe this is the fastest way to flash a different hboot

iTzLOLtrain said:
I believe this is the fastest way to flash a different hboot
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If you look at the guide I linked in my previous post which has similar instructions that I took from the unlimited.io website and tested, you can do this fastboot sequence to clear cache, flash a different bootloader, then reboot back to your current ROM:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot oem rebootRUU
fastboot flash zip new_hboot.zip
fastboot reboot
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The hboot filename can be anything you want, and doesn't necessarily have to be "PG86IMG.zip" using this method.
If you need to flash another ROM before the reboot or do something else in recovery, you can issue the "fastboot boot recovery.img" command instead of "fastboot reboot" to go directly to your custom recovery since there is no "fastboot reboot-recovery" command.
ramjet73

ramjet73 said:
The hboot filename can be anything you want, and doesn't necessarily have to be "PG86IMG.zip" using this method.
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I know.. & because this thread is about bootloaders I thought that's how I would explain myself. Instead of going into more detail & say how you can flash .img files through that process....

iTzLOLtrain said:
I know.. & because this thread is about bootloaders I thought that's how I would explain myself. Instead of going into more detail & say how you can flash .img files through that process....
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That's fine.
For clarification, the command I suggested to get back to recovery (fastboot boot recovery.img) is not flashing it, only booting it directly to avoid having to go to the bootloader first to get to recovery.
ramjet73

Guys, I made this guide because it seemed like the most basic and simple way to do it. I speak from experience when I say that the command prompt can be a little intimidating. It can be get pretty nerve wrecking when you dont have a back up phone and you feel like you have lots of room for error and you're terrified you might brick your device. This guide doesn't use any sort of external commands, making it seem a lot less manual. I wasn't trying to show people the fastest way. Just the easiest, less nerve wrecking way.

sawyerbenjamin said:
Guys, I made this guide because it seemed like the most basic and simple way to do it. I speak from experience when I say that the command prompt can be a little intimidating. It can be get pretty nerve wrecking when you dont have a back up phone and you feel like you have lots of room for error and you're terrified you might brick your device. This guide doesn't use any sort of external commands, making it seem a lot less manual. I wasn't trying to show people the fastest way. Just the easiest, less nerve wrecking way.
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The guide I linked in post #3 of this thread provides alternatives for flashing a different bootloader and for deleting the PG86IMG.zip file if you choose that method. Some people are very comfortable with the fastboot commands and that method saves having to worry about deleting the PG86IMG.zip. It's always good to have alternatives because one size never fits all.
You asked for feedback in the OP and we're providing that.
ramjet73

ramjet73 said:
The guide I linked in post #3 of this thread provides alternatives for flashing a different bootloader and for deleting the PG86IMG.zip file if you choose that method. Some people are very comfortable with the fastboot commands and that method saves having to worry about deleting the PG86IMG.zip. It's always good to have alternatives because one size never fits all.
You asked for feedback in the OP and we're providing that.
ramjet73
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Feedback - Information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc., used as a basis for improvement.
You were promoting your own threads, not giving feedback. I have to thank you for the post that helped in making this guide, but your alternate methods aren't really necessary. I'm not sure how to say that without sounding rude or hostile, but Im sure you get my point.

sawyerbenjamin said:
You were promoting your own threads, not giving feedback. I have to thank you for the post that helped in making this guide, but your alternate methods aren't really necessary. I'm not sure how to say that without sounding rude or hostile, but Im sure you get my point.
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OK, and if you want to be blunt my point was that your guide wasn't really necessary, and I think that's feedback on your "product", since the content was already covered in the guide I setup for people that want to change bootloaders when S-OFF, but if people prefer to use your version in the OP of this thread that's fine with me.
As I already stated, alternatives are good.
ramjet73

ramjet73 said:
OK, and if you want to be blunt my point was that your guide wasn't really necessary, and I think that's feedback on your "product", since the content was already covered in the guide I setup for people that want to change bootloaders when S-OFF, but if people prefer to use your version in the OP of this thread that's fine with me.
As I already stated, alternatives are good.
ramjet73
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Ouch. That was uncalled for. To far bro. This is just a guide trying to help people. Not a place to get all ugly. Lol.

Dear sir
i have the same problem my phone get stuck on white htc screen
unrooted
s-on
relocked
hboot 1.5.0007
so can any one help me how to solve this problem
thanks
i also tried factory reset and to setup ICS ruu but it got stop when it try to reboot boat-loader and still the same problem
when trying to flash any thing recovery or boot failed and trying to put rom as pg86img also failed any one help me please this phone part of my daily life:crying::crying::crying:

The problem with s-on is that the kernel does not flash when you flash a rom. That is why it won't boot.
To fix the issue after flashing a rom, you need to pull the boot.img from the rom.zip and use fastboot to flash it.
fastboot flash boot boot.img
There are two options when you are s-on and flashing roms to flash the kernel with the rom and avoid bootloop.
The no pc method:
The easiest method is to use 4ext recovery with smart flash enabled. That will allow you to flash roms and kernel and avoid bootloop.
The PC method:
Keep a recovery.img in your fastboot directory. When you want to flash a rom, boot your recovery into the phones memory which allows you to flash the kernel with the rom.
You use: fastboot boot recovery.img
Then just install the rom once booted into recovery. While it seems the same, Booting into recovery using fastboot is different and will allow the kernel to flash.

[Q] I have tried all methods of rooting and have not succeeded..

hi, I have done all I could find on this site and others to no avail. I would be so thankful if there is just one person out there who can help me get this done! I have htc evo 4g lte with hboot 1.19, 2.13.651.1 and all I have been trying to do is get root with superuser. i tried to unlock and s-off too just to see if i could get closer to superuser and i am so stuck. i have windows 8 x64 and windows 7 x32 available to use. help! please! thanks!

This is the guide I used before s-off was available through dirtyracuns. It's pretty straightforward. If you're bootloader is unlocked already then all you need to do it flash the superuser zip from the guide through recovery.
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-4g-l...tc-evo-4g-lte-unlock-bootloadertwrp-recovery/
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I have nothing altered yet. i've tried that, and command prompt sat there forever waiting to see my device, which it never does. never got the token. also, in my device manager it doesn't read ADB Interface > My HTC-- it reads Android USB Devices > My HTC. not sure if that might be an indication of what is/isn't installed/configured [im]properly on my computer.

go here http://unlimited.io/dirtyracun.htm and follow the directions to a T on your win7x32 machine, you will be unlocked with s-off.
once you're done with that, go here http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98 and download the openrecovery-twrp-2.3.1.0-jewel.img file to the RabiesShot_WIN folder that you just used to do your s-off (because the fastboot.exe is there, just use the command prompt from that folder like you did for the racun) and use the fastboot method (boot to bootloader, vol-dwn to fastboot, pwr, plug in usb, enter "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.3.1.0-jewel.img" command)
after that's done you can try to reboot to recovery, though mine always boots to system the first time after i've flashed recovery, to confirm it's there, or just let the phone boot to system, plug in your USB and download the CWM installable zip from the bottom of the OP in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 to your USB card someplace where you know you can find it.
then power off your phone, boot to the bootloader again, pwr-dwn to recovery, hit power button, welcome to TWRP, tap Install, browse the the zip you just saved, install, reboot to system, and you have root

dangle79 said:
go here http://unlimited.io/dirtyracun.htm and follow the directions to a T on your win7x32 machine, you will be unlocked with s-off.
once you're done with that, go here http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/98 and download the openrecovery-twrp-2.3.1.0-jewel.img file to the RabiesShot_WIN folder that you just used to do your s-off (because the fastboot.exe is there, just use the command prompt from that folder like you did for the racun) and use the fastboot method (boot to bootloader, vol-dwn to fastboot, pwr, plug in usb, enter "fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.3.1.0-jewel.img" command)
after that's done you can try to reboot to recovery, though mine always boots to system the first time after i've flashed recovery, to confirm it's there, or just let the phone boot to system, plug in your USB and download the CWM installable zip from the bottom of the OP in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 to your USB card someplace where you know you can find it.
then power off your phone, boot to the bootloader again, pwr-dwn to recovery, hit power button, welcome to TWRP, tap Install, browse the the zip you just saved, install, reboot to system, and you have root
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Thanks, im gonna have to try that tomorrow when i get to my win7 x32. Miss my good ol' evo, she was always good to me.

well then.. its unlocked, s-on. the ruu.zip was carried out just fine. gonna do it again in case i messed up

emwarf said:
well then.. its unlocked, s-on. the ruu.zip was carried out just fine. gonna do it again in case i messed up
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remember you want to be locked after step 6 before running the RUU
pay attention to step 9 if you get that error message just do what it says, hit the up arrow to start the RUU process again. ( i had to do it twice before it actually completed fully )
I was actually able to re-use my original unlock token for step 11 from when i'd unlocked before.
so you'll lock
run RUU (will see a lot of output if it actually finishes, i think i even booted to system once to confirm)
then you'll unlock
then run the rabiesshot, which does take a while to run through completely and your phone will restart at least a half dozen times. just watch the command window and it'll say when it's totally finished

dangle79 said:
remember you want to be locked after step 6 before running the RUU
pay attention to step 9 if you get that error message just do what it says, hit the up arrow to start the RUU process again. ( i had to do it twice before it actually completed fully )
I was actually able to re-use my original unlock token for step 11 from when i'd unlocked before.
so you'll lock
run RUU (will see a lot of output if it actually finishes, i think i even booted to system once to confirm)
then you'll unlock
then run the rabiesshot, which does take a while to run through completely and your phone will restart at least a half dozen times. just watch the command window and it'll say when it's totally finished
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MONEY! this is great. got my beloved evo back. miss being rooted so much. I was stupid and renamed a file when I downloaded it so I could identify it more easily. just had to call it the new name instead. big help you are! id still be fighting to find some updated rooting stuff on the net, or id be remaining blind to some stupid fault of my own. thank you!

took me months to find this thread. thank you jeebus. VERY HELPFUL! perhaps even sticky-worthy to nubs like myself.

in the past, using various phones, every time I flashed CM it would install SU automatically (i think)... so can I skip that step, put the chosen CM stable build on the SD card and be done with it?

richard head said:
in the past, using various phones, every time I flashed CM it would install SU automatically (i think)... so can I skip that step, put the chosen CM stable build on the SD card and be done with it?
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correct. cm is already a rooted rom.

I like this thread. I'm going to give it a try when I get my hands on a 32 bit windows 7 PC, since I have no idea how to use liveCD.

Question for AT&T One X+ users that have rooted/unlocked?

What method/methods did you go about? Honestly not ready to root/unlock but I know I'll get the itch soon. This device is nice as is for now but yea I miss titanium backup and would like to be ready for any custom rom to drop, etc. So if you guys dont mind posting what method or thread you used I'd appreciate it, would at the same time help other at&t users not sure of what to use in the dev section.

See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
It will take care of it all.

Only way is to use a tool? Anyone else go the long way?

SysAdmNj said:
What method/methods did you go about? Honestly not ready to root/unlock but I know I'll get the itch soon. This device is nice as is for now but yea I miss titanium backup and would like to be ready for any custom rom to drop, etc. So if you guys dont mind posting what method or thread you used I'd appreciate it, would at the same time help other at&t users not sure of what to use in the dev section.
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I agree hasoons all in one works fast and efficient for unlocking and flashing SU for root. It opens the doors for custom roms quite easily

While I fully trust hasoon's all-in-one, I prefer to do things manually just so I learn more about my device. It was extremely simple. Go to htcdev.com and follow the instructions for obtaining the unlock code for your bootloader. This works for the AT&T version as well, where it did NOT on the original One X(L) in the US, we had to modify the CID. This one works right off the bat.
NOTE: As detailed in the instructions and warning screen, once you go through with the unlock process, it will delete all files on your device. Backup your music/pictures, etc before doing this.
Once you have the bootloader unlocked, push the TWRP recovery .img through fastboot (instructions are on the TWRP website). Now that you have the custom recovery MAKE A BACKUP of your stock ROM immediately! This will backup a fresh install without root.
Now from here, you can sideload the superuser.apk (or if you prefer supersu) or flash it via a .zip (which is what I did). I let my device boot after backing it up, downloaded the .zip and rebooted into recovery and flashed it. From there I installed Titanium Backup Pro and manually removed a lot of the bloatware (AT&T Navigator took a couple times to remove...).
I don't know enough yet to make a custom ROM for us, however I'm poking around on the forums and looking at guides. I'm sure the experts out there will have something for us well before I can pick it up, so I'm confident we'll have something soon. I personally dislike Sense and am excited for CM10, but I'm sure that's a little while down the road.
Follow the instructions via HTCdev.com and TWRP (and other posts here) and you'll be fine. There's also the AT&T RUU in case you botch anything up too bad. All you have to do is re-lock your bootloader via fastboot and run the .exe from your desktop computer and follow the directions to take you back to stock.
Enjoy!

droidiac13 said:
See this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1994961
It will take care of it all.
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^^ This
it's easy, fast and simple. Just run the video while you do it if you have any doubts.

chris.sterbank said:
While I fully trust hasoon's all-in-one, I prefer to do things manually just so I learn more about my device. It was extremely simple. Go to htcdev.com and follow the instructions for obtaining the unlock code for your bootloader. This works for the AT&T version as well, where it did NOT on the original One X(L) in the US, we had to modify the CID. This one works right off the bat.
NOTE: As detailed in the instructions and warning screen, once you go through with the unlock process, it will delete all files on your device. Backup your music/pictures, etc before doing this.
Once you have the bootloader unlocked, push the TWRP recovery .img through fastboot (instructions are on the TWRP website). Now that you have the custom recovery MAKE A BACKUP of your stock ROM immediately! This will backup a fresh install without root.
Now from here, you can sideload the superuser.apk (or if you prefer supersu) or flash it via a .zip (which is what I did). I let my device boot after backing it up, downloaded the .zip and rebooted into recovery and flashed it. From there I installed Titanium Backup Pro and manually removed a lot of the bloatware (AT&T Navigator took a couple times to remove...).
I don't know enough yet to make a custom ROM for us, however I'm poking around on the forums and looking at guides. I'm sure the experts out there will have something for us well before I can pick it up, so I'm confident we'll have something soon. I personally dislike Sense and am excited for CM10, but I'm sure that's a little while down the road.
Follow the instructions via HTCdev.com and TWRP (and other posts here) and you'll be fine. There's also the AT&T RUU in case you botch anything up too bad. All you have to do is re-lock your bootloader via fastboot and run the .exe from your desktop computer and follow the directions to take you back to stock.
Enjoy!
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I appreciate hasoon's tool and will most likely use it in the near future, but for now I rather go the manual way. As I've been away from htc for a while I rather do it this way at first to just familiarize myself with the process as chris. I mean there cant be a con doing it manually than using the tool right?

The only "con" would be if you screwed up one of the commands. Even our resident developer Lloir said he used Hassoon's tool for the simplicity.

911jason said:
The only "con" would be if you screwed up one of the commands. Even our resident developer Lloir said he used Hassoon's tool for the simplicity.
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True lol. I havent even rooted yet, phone is pretty nice stock. Oh believe me, wont be long until I dive into it and probably just break down and use the tool

failed root (AT&T/TELUS model)
I have a phone that is currently bricked due to a failed root attempt assumingly using incorrect boot.img (I have TELUS/AT&T version and I assume the boot.img loaded was for different model. I have since discovered Hasoon's all-in-one tool and can successfully load and launch TWRP (ATT model) recovery but I do not have a recovery file (since I did not have this loaded at time of attempted root). Does anybody know of a way to recover the phone back to stock or any working state?

You can use the RUU file to flash it back to its original form. I don't see a file for TELUS so If that's what you have I don't know if this will work. Make sure to choose the AT&T one if that's what you have.
I'm not sure if you have to relock the bootloader first, but it wouldn't hurt. From memory, these are the steps I took with my One X when I returned it to stock so I could exchange it for the One X+.
- Relock Bootloader by powering off the device, hold the VOL DOWN key and then press the PWR button until the Recovery/Bootloader menu comes up. Use the VOL +/- keys to move up and down and the PWR key to make a selection. Go into the Bootloader menu and choose RELOCK BOOTLOADER.
- Power off the device.
- Install HTC Sync from HTC's site if you haven't already.
- Connect your phone to your computer and then double-click the RUU exe file you downloaded and follow the prompts.

Thank you very much. I didn't know that anybody had an RUU for the AT&T/TELUS model I had searched everywhere and only found international models. I will give it a try to see if it works.
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You can use the to flash it back to its original form. I don't see a file for TELUS so If that's what you have I don't know if this will work. Make sure t if that's what you have.
I'm not sure if you have to relock the bootloader first, but it wouldn't hurt. From memory, these are the steps I took with my One X when I returned it to stock so I could exchange it for the One X+.
- Relock Bootloader by powering off the device, hold the VOL DOWN key and then press the PWR button until the Recovery/Bootloader menu comes up. Use the VOL +/- keys to move up and down and the PWR key to make a selection. Go into the Bootloader menu and choose RELOCK BOOTLOADER.
- Power off the device.
- Install HTC Sync from HTC's site if you haven't already.
- Connect your phone to your computer and then double-click the RUU exe file you downloaded and follow the prompts.
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No Dice.
Says it cannot update the phone and to get the correct RUU. I guess it doesn't work with TELUS phones.
infinity211 said:
Thank you very much. I didn't know that anybody had an RUU for the AT&T/TELUS model I had searched everywhere and only found international models. I will give it a try to see if it works.
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infinity211 said:
Thank you very much. I didn't know that anybody had an RUU for the AT&T/TELUS model I had searched everywhere and only found international models. I will give it a try to see if it works.
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No Dice.
Says it cannot update the phone and to get the correct RUU. I guess it doesn't work with TELUS phones.
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Download my toolkit.
Pull the boot.img from my AT&T ROM. Boot into recovery and flash any of the AT&T builds I have from here.
Shut the phone off. Hold the volume down and power button together until you are in the bootloader. Press the power button to select fastboot and have the USB cable plugged in.
Put the boot.img in the kernels folder of my toolkit.
Press the "With this command" and press flash kernel.
Now pray that your phone loads up!

I downloaded your QX senseless v1.0.zip and pulled boot.img from it. I have the phone in TWRP recovery mode but am not sure how to get the zip there to install. A removable drive does show up in windows but it is not accessible. Is there something else I need to do to send the file such as via fastboot or something?
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Download my toolkit.
Pull the boot.img from my AT&T ROM. Boot into recovery and flash any of the AT&T builds I have from here.
Shut the phone off. Hold the volume down and power button together until you are in the bootloader. Press the power button to select fastboot and have the USB cable plugged in.
Put the boot.img in the kernels folder of my toolkit.
Press the "With this command" and press flash kernel.
Now pray that your phone loads up!
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The boot.img has to be flashed hbooot/fasboot mode then the Rom in recovery
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2

My confusion was how to load the package. I was unfamiliar with the usb restrictions since my last phone was an HTC magic (android 2.1 I think). I found the information on the ext4 partition and successfully sideloaded the package via the recovery console. To note I did need to use the adb from the current SDK as the one included with hasoons AIO kit is old and doesn't support sideload.
It appears I am back up and running with hasoon's senseless ROM.
I will need to play around to see if it is functioning correctly but so far it booted and knows my carrier..
YAY..
Thanks to Hasoon for the ROM and tools, definitely worth donating to, I will be doing this shortly.
olorolo said:
The boot.img has to be flashed hbooot/fasboot mode then the Rom in recovery
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
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My final method for root/recovery was to htcdev unlock. Then I fastboot flashed TWRP. Then rebooted into recovery and adb pushed QX zip and flash it. Ignore QX boot.img error. Reboot into fastboot and flash boot.img from QX zip. Reboot.
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Nice! Glad to hear you're back up and running.

Root to unlock?
I would like to begin with a warning.
Im a complete noob. I want to switch to android with the HTC One X+ as my first android phone.
I want the phone, but I want it unlocked as I travel abroad and I don't want to be locked in a contract.
I realized it AT&T won't unlock your phone even after you pay the $350 ETF.
So
1. Does rooting unlock the phone?
2. Do sites that claim that giving them your phone's IMEI number and paying a fee to get an unlock code actually work? A
I want to know this for sure before I pay $550 ($200 for phone + $350 ETF) the One X+.
Thanks for your help

No, rooting does not SIM-unlock your phone.
Yes, there are legitimate unlocking sites. I'd recommend contacting Hassoon here on XDA as he has stated that he can look into helping users SIM-unlock for a fee.

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