Just ordered one although i was a bit hesitant after reading a lot of negative feedback on them. After further investigation it seemed as though most of the complaints were related to the factory software ?? ive done a bunch of reading and plan on modding it from day one. From what ive gathered you first load clockworkmod, then do a backup, then load your rom and lastly root if necessary (if the rom isnt already) only thing i havnt decided on is which rom. I see there are quite a few available here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874258 but honestly i wouldnt mind some up to date opinions on which is working best.
And as the title asks, Do You Like Your Gtablet ??
Make sure you know what bootloader is on your G Tablet BEFORE you start flashing a new ROM! In the reading I have done to date, there are two different bootloader versions out there; 1.1 and 1.2. I thought I was good to go and started to install ClockWorkMod and Cyanogenmod 7 shortly after unboxing. Big mistake. It took a long, long time and tons of research before I was finally able to get it back to a working state.
The links below are a great place to start reading. The 4th link is a guide detailing the steps I went through to restore the G Tablet.
Viewsonic GTablet For Dummies
A New User's Guide to modding your GTablet device
[FAQ] Viewsonic G-Tablet ROMs Frequently Asked Questions (READ THIS FIRST)
Viewsonic G-Tablet 1.1 ROM Development
Viewsonic G-Tablet 1.2 ROM Development
Guide - Restore G Tablet after a Failed Recovery Mode "update.zip"
Personally I like the G Tablet. Sure, it might not have the polish of some of the "high end" tablets, but for the price I think it is a good deal. Of course the stock ROM leaves much to be desired.
Shortly after getting the G Tablet restored, I have been running roebeet's Brilliant Corners ROM with VTL.launcher. I like both alot.
Hope this helps. Have fun!
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Well thats good to know about the bootloader, i hadnt noticed anything on that. Sounds like you just saved me a major headache.
I'll read all the links supplied, thanks for that. i dont mind doing my homework i just got to a point before there where i felt like i was going around and round in circles lol
I bought one of the flytouch 3's first and was kinda disappointed, it had decent functionality with the tim5a rom but the resistive screens are junk. The gtablet is the cheapest capacative touch 10" tablet i could find and paired with the tegra 2 gpu, 512mb ram and 16gb internal, not even mentioning the other options, it seemed like a steal at $269 with free shipping from tigerdirect.
Ill look into the roebeet's Brilliant Corners ROM with VTL.launcher and give that one a try, is that one of the most recently developed roms for this tab ?
Thanks again...
I agree, it is a good deal for the features included. I really don't have any medium or major complaints with a custom ROM installed. There are some minor things I would like to see improved, but those probably would have pushed the price up.
Brilliant Corners is fairly recent, the last build was on 5/20. It is froyo based, so it isn't the latest and greatest out there, but I find it highly useable and stable. There are newer honeycomb based ROMs available here on xda and at the links I sent in the last post. I tried a couple honeycomb versions, but at the time they didn't seem stable enough (the G Tablet was a birthday gift for my wife, so I could not afford periodic crashing/reboots).
To clarify; Brilliant Corners does not come with the VTL.launcher. I downloaded VTL.launcher here on xda (link below).
I would guess that your G Tablet will come with bootloader 1.2, but if it does come with 1.1 the list below has a link to another guide on upgrading from 1.1 to 1.2.
[APP][LAUNCHER] VTL.Launcher 1.6.5 (Tablet Oriented Launcher) [updated 05.19.11]
[GUIDE] Fool proof install for stock 4349 (1.1 to 1.2 upgrade path)
djab67
I love it. I've gone around to different stores to tryout several of the popular new tablets. I wasn't impressed by any of them. My modded gtab seemed faster than most of them, and I only paid $259.
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I have had my gtab for a few months and I enjoy it. have fun and try the different ROM's just be sure to learn how to use NVflash it will be your freind. and there are many helpful people here with alot of knowlage always do a search in the forum many questions have an answer already
I like mine, but dislike the display intensely.
It it what it is, a now somewhat dated (yes, 9 months is forever in the tech world) first generation tegra-2 android tablet with NO manufacturer support.
For $200 or so, it's a not a bad way to PLAY with android tablets, and if you like hacking/modding its a good platform for that.
If you could get a well-supported Honeycomb-based tablet with similar specs and a real display, for $100 more, you'd be nuts not to do so.
I'm running gtabcomb (Honeycomb) on mine. And I really do like it, and use it daily. I guess I didn't really expect to use it as much as I am, because if I did, I would have paid the extra $100 or so and gotten something with a better display.
I like mine as well. I'm running Flashback at the moment. I had gotten mine used off from eBay with Bottle of Smoke on it. I flashed it back to stock and immediately found out why everyone complained about it.
I've tried the ASOP gHarmony GB and really like that one as well, though I've been unable to get the latest loaded.
For me the tablet is great because I like to tinker with it. Last weekend I told my wife, "I'm going to load a new ROM onto my tablet." She asked, "Why?" I didn't have a good answer for her as it seemed seemed self-explanatory.
If someone doesn't want to fiddle with the thing I wouldn't recommend it (thought it is years ahead of the ZT-180 that I had before this! )
ByteWrencher
I am currently in love with GtabComb.
I have used several ROMs since over the past 6 months. To me GtabComb feels like a much smoother experience, more responsive to touch scrolling on the home screen and within apps. Really, now that I have my hands on Honeycomb, I just can't go back to Froyo-based ROMs.
While it currently lacks hardware acceleration, which some say would provide better video playback (and gaming, not important to me), I have found the video on GtabComb more than acceptable.
I have only had a few problems with apps loading or installing, but no showstoppers. I don't even remember which apps were issues.
The camera does not work, but since Skype video is not available for any ROM, and other other video chatting solutions do not provide a usable experience for me, this is also not a showstopper.
Have fun!
I like mine.
Mine is great!
Played with a display model at office depot and immediately ordered one (store was out of stock). Been happy with it ever since. The stock software is really bad. I tried out several ROMS and eventually settled with gtabcomb3.2. Once you try Honeycomb, it's hard to go back. My 2cents worth.
schettj said:
I like mine, but dislike the display intensely.
It it what it is, a now somewhat dated (yes, 9 months is forever in the tech world) first generation tegra-2 android tablet with NO manufacturer support.
For $200 or so, it's a not a bad way to PLAY with android tablets, and if you like hacking/modding its a good platform for that.
If you could get a well-supported Honeycomb-based tablet with similar specs and a real display, for $100 more, you'd be nuts not to do so.
I'm running gtabcomb (Honeycomb) on mine. And I really do like it, and use it daily. I guess I didn't really expect to use it as much as I am, because if I did, I would have paid the extra $100 or so and gotten something with a better display.
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What options are available for $100 more that are better hardware wise ? I looked around quite a bit and saw nothing in the $350 area that rivaled the gtab ? thx
digitalcoup said:
I am currently in love with GtabComb.
I have used several ROMs since over the past 6 months. To me GtabComb feels like a much smoother experience, more responsive to touch scrolling on the home screen and within apps. Really, now that I have my hands on Honeycomb, I just can't go back to Froyo-based ROMs.
While it currently lacks hardware acceleration, which some say would provide better video playback (and gaming, not important to me), I have found the video on GtabComb more than acceptable.
I have only had a few problems with apps loading or installing, but no showstoppers. I don't even remember which apps were issues.
The camera does not work, but since Skype video is not available for any ROM, and other other video chatting solutions do not provide a usable experience for me, this is also not a showstopper.
Have fun!
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The latest version of skype ran perfectly on my froyo flytouch tab. To bad to hear the camera doesnt work with gtacomb.
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What options are available for $100 more that are better hardware wise ? I looked around quite a bit and saw nothing in the $350 area that rivaled the gtab ? thx
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i said IF... staples recently had a $100 off any tablet deal that put several of the mid-$400 tablets right in that pricepoint.
Edit: for example, http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...440-with-free-shipping-from-ebay-daily-deals/
Current deal on a new 32GB wifi xoom: $440. Shipped Free. That's within spitting distance of $100 more than the $280 I spent on my gtab. $160 more, might still be worth it. Likely most of these "late first gen/early 2nd gen" tablets with full Honeycomb support will be heading to the $300-$400 pricepoint in the next few months.
schettj said:
i said IF... staples recently had a $100 off any tablet deal that put several of the mid-$400 tablets right in that pricepoint.
Edit: for example, http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...440-with-free-shipping-from-ebay-daily-deals/
Current deal on a new 32GB wifi xoom: $440. Shipped Free. That's within spitting distance of $100 more than the $280 I spent on my gtab. $160 more, might still be worth it. Likely most of these "late first gen/early 2nd gen" tablets with full Honeycomb support will be heading to the $300-$400 pricepoint in the next few months.
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I got ya, i would love to see the xoom's and galaxy tabs come down below $400 but i dont see that happening right off. Not with the cell phone companies using them as leverage to get you to sign a two year contract.
Besides by the time the price comes down there will be something better available again, its a vicious cycle !
Gtab is suppose to be here today, cant wait to try it out !
I like my gtab so far but i have only had it a few days. I have tried several roms so far and i am currently running bottle of smoke and i have to say i like the HC experience better than froyo. Camera wasnt a big deal for me, I got flash and Netflix working so I'm a happy camper.
I have had mine a few days too now and i must say im pretty impressed. The screen sensitivity is great and multitouch works excellent. The image quality is great and ive experienced no lag from the dual core gpu.
Im running brilliant corners (froyo) and its very,very stable, not a single force close on any program. Everything works perfectly, netflix and the market worked right out of the box with bc. I had some issues with games initially, like asphalt hd but thats a vendor problem not the rom or gtab.
I do love my 2 gtabs! 1 is in VEGAn, 1 in GtabComb beta 3.3.
Got them from tigerdirect.com, for $269 a piece. What a steal, and just perfect for my kids! Then bought the Fuse cases, from electroniccrap.com, for $30 a piece. They fit nicely!
I like mine. Running gtabcomb 3.3. I think I still prefer the Asus transformer and probably should have shelled out the extra $100. It is nice having a USB port for flash drives though.
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yeah my gtab surpasses most tablets out now and it was around half of the price! but I would rather have the moto xoom but i am happy with my gtab
I've had my gtab for a little over a month and I'm pretty happy with it. I think like most others on this site that I appreciate the fact that you can play with it and try other ROMs and just tinker with it. It's not a Cadillac gets me where I want to go. Only complaint is in the video playing. Hopefully can get that resolved. I'm thinking of buying another one for my wife.
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+10 char. Barnes and nobles.
http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor-source-code.zip
u forgot link http://images.barnesandnoble.com/PResources/download/Nook/source-code/nookcolor-source-code.zip
that was fast
This is awesome.
Looks like B&N understand that they have something much bigger than an ereader.
I, for one, had not been interested in this device until I saw the posts here about it being rooted and being able to install other programs on it. I went out and bought it last night and will hold on to it until an easier root method is published.
Well of course they understand But since at $250 they're probably not making much, if any profit off the machine, they need to sell content and they have two options:
1) Close the machine off Amazon style and force people to buy content from you, or
2) Open the platform, hope more people buy your device and hope that translates into content sales (book, magazines, etc...) where the money is.
Seems like they're blending #1 and #2 but with a bit more #2... Pretty good for us.
Hopefully, the cooked ROMs will allow to access the stock B&N reading program as well. It's a bit slow at times but it's a pretty good reader with strong book management capabilities (shelves) and the magazines are pretty good too.
Don't mean to sound dumb, but what exactly is this a link for?
Hopefully the link is to the source code used to compile the Android OS on the Nook Color.
Maybe I will even finally compile me some Android.
At the very least it would seem that combining parts of this with AOSP 2.2 might yield one / several usable froyo kernels for the NC. Easy to say, definitely more complicated to actually do.
Ypocaramel said:
Well of course they understand But since at $250 they're probably not making much, if any profit off the machine, they need to sell content and they have two options:
1) Close the machine off Amazon style and force people to buy content from you, or
2) Open the platform, hope more people buy your device and hope that translates into content sales (book, magazines, etc...) where the money is.
Seems like they're blending #1 and #2 but with a bit more #2... Pretty good for us.
Hopefully, the cooked ROMs will allow to access the stock B&N reading program as well. It's a bit slow at times but it's a pretty good reader with strong book management capabilities (shelves) and the magazines are pretty good too.
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I like the device so much, alll I do is talk about how good it is and how it compares for the money.
I highly recommend it to everyone looking for a reader, that's capable of much more.
I'm surprised how many people are interested
I bought one yesterday and already have it rooted. Additionally, I have ADW Launcher, all of my favorite apps/games, DroidX keyboard, etc. I agree that this is easily one of the best values in the tablet segment. I'm really eager to see Android 2.2/2.3 though.
I got my Nook last week and use it quite a bit. I too agree it is the best tablet around, especially when you consider the price point. I'm using it now even with tapatalk. Most of my friends are probably tired if hearing me extol its virtues. Once Froyo or Gingerbread hits, along with bluetooth (if possible) this thing will be even more awesome.
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Got one for my wife last week, rooted it right away and we both think it's great. It's the only tablet in the house and I'm using it more than she and considering buying another NC just for myself.
Perhaps I should just be patient with Honeycomb (supposedly) coming out early 2011, along with new devices designed specifically for a more tablet friendly OS. Does anyone question whether NC will be able to run Honeycomb?
kaiser_va said:
Got one for my wife last week, rooted it right away and we both think it's great. It's the only tablet in the house and I'm using it more than she and considering buying another NC just for myself.
Perhaps I should just be patient with Honeycomb (supposedly) coming out early 2011, along with new devices designed specifically for a more tablet friendly OS. Does anyone question whether NC will be able to run Honeycomb?
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The answer to honeycomb relies on two things (the way i see it):
1) We must be able to boot custom roms. From what i gather, alot of progress is being made there already, so i doubt that will be too much of an issue. If we can get a recovery option, and be able to do nandroid backups, it would be even safer.
2) The hardware must meet HC's specs. This is the real question mark - what kind of hardware will HC actually need? As it is, our tablets really aren't lacking in the hardware department, and a custom overclocked/undervolted kernel should really help (speed boost to 1.0-1.2). As it is, our A8 CPU and SGX530 GPU are no slouch (though yes, our GPU is weaker than top end gear), and the 512MB ram should really help performance. Again, it comes down to what custom kernels and roms can be cooked up for our hardware..
B&N Clerk Talked About Hacking It
jtreminio said:
Looks like B&N understand that they have something much bigger than an ereader.
I, for one, had not been interested in this device until I saw the posts here about it being rooted and being able to install other programs on it. I went out and bought it last night and will hold on to it until an easier root method is published.
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Hi,
I got one yesterday. Can’t open it until Christmas, since it’s my present from my wife. Anyway, when I bought it the clerk was talking about training. I told ther that the person that was getting it was very tech savvy. She said “They will get it home and hack it in about an hour. You know it can be hacked into a full tablet computer.”
This was from the cashier.
Best sub 300 tablet in the market right now
Its basically a 7 inch droid x
Hope we get aosp rom soon
Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
what are the specks on the nook?
easy9 said:
what are the specks on the nook?
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Check the specs on the wiki page: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nook_Color
Smooth...
I have been watching this ColorNook development since they announced it coming to market.
Bought one 5 days ago after autonook was finished. For $250 it beats the market tablets hands down. Tethered it wirelessly to my Droid and I was in business.
Glad I made the leap. Rotting took less than an hour. Great job guys.
Thanks
The nook color is an awesome little device! I chose it over the galaxy tab, (it was way too expensive, & i didn't want another two year contract with sprint). It's crazy how much people on craigslist are charging for a tab, they get up to $600!, no thank you, i'm happy with my autonootered/rooted nook, & it didn't cost me an arm and a leg I recommend you guys pick one up, it's only gonna' get better.
I can't decide which device.... I like Archos(have a few of their products now) but the G Tab seems more capable of running newer versions of Android. Do you all see the G Tablet becoming the tablet to beat when updated with an official release? I like all the mod/hacking I have seen on the forum, I just think I may be better suited for a device with better "official' support from the manufacturer. Talk me out of Archos... I WANT to love the G tablet...
WAD.
If you're already on this forum, i suggest you get the g tablet. Since when does support from manufacturers did any good?
Archos is notorious for getting product to market quick and dumping support for product real quick
/end decision
I can only go on my own subjective opinion. Back in October, I was on the Archos 101 pre-order list - feels like it was a year ago, now. I only tried the GTab because I was sick of the 101's delays.
But now, if I was given the choice between the two, I would choose the GTab without hesitation. It has a chipset which is vastly superior, an open firmware and a great community. The Archos does have some pluses, or course - better HDMI port and an excellent media player come to mind. But the hardware it's on is already out-of-date. Even the Galaxy Tab 2 is going to have a Tegra 2 in it.
Read up on forum.archosfans.com, too -- a lot of grumbling on the Froyo update. and you can't even back out.
Alpha06 said:
Archos is notorious for getting product to market quick and dumping support for product real quick
/end decision
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heh, i was notified this morn that the archos 70 is back in stock and had it in my cart before i remembered how archos has issed me off before.
plus, the gtab has better hardware for a bit more money. i'm getting another gtab after the holidays, when the staples/sears stuff is figured out. hopefully get a good deal.
WantADroid said:
I can't decide which device.... I like Archos(have a few of their products now) but the G Tab seems more capable of running newer versions of Android. Do you all see the G Tablet becoming the tablet to beat when updated with an official release? I like all the mod/hacking I have seen on the forum, I just think I may be better suited for a device with better "official' support from the manufacturer. Talk me out of Archos... I WANT to love the G tablet...
WAD.
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From what I gather based on posts by other people who have owned both, the Archos is MUCH better at media playback, while it's 256MB leads to problems... oh, and the Archos has a bit better screen, although I've not been bothered by the viewing angle except when specifically checking it as when in use I'm always looking directly at the gTab... gTab also has better overall performance. Archos is lighter than gTab.
My own personal drawback is the 10" size and weight... so I'm mulling a Nook Color ATM or maybe elocity a7 or wait and see what the next few months bring in the way of 7" tablets. NC seems best immediate option as B&N will probably support it for a year or so I'd imagine...
With the new Gtablet update, even non-modded, the Gtablet seems a better buy now (if you side-load Flash, of course).
1. Archos 101 = capped at 800mhz (that is crazy- not even smaller form factor phones do this). Out of box and after update, the 101 can not even bust 1,000 with Quadrant and rooting to remove the cpu cap result in 1,200.
2. Despite fanboy spin, the 256mb ram is a problem for Flash and general operation with 2.2. Not so bad with 2.1, but app managment is more dynamic with 2.2 and more apps tend to float in memory, rather than sit in a wait-state using a register stack.
3. The wifi signal is weaker on the 101
4. No adhoc connections and wifi tether other than hotspots does not work
5. Only 300mb of app space (over six times less than the G)
6. Sound quality of the 3630 is weak due to low volume and even worse, poor gain management (Archos adheres to the Euro sound cap law). Still, the speaker output is louder than the Gtablet- ironic.
7. If you like games like the Quake series, PSX or other more demanding apps, the 101 is a lot slower and not smooth like the Gtablet.
8. Larger CBR and PDF files that play super smooth and lag free on the G, either do not work or are laggy messes on the 101.
9. As mentioned above, Flash is problematic on the 101, due to the 256mb ram. Try more demanding sites like Dailymotion and the higher res Flash content. Smooth on the G and not on the 101.
10. To get decenty performance, you need to root the device and mod. Why even bother with the 101 then? Europe has the Advent Vega, Asia has the zPad and NA has the Gtablet. ALL better options, IMO and now the Elocity 7 is out and kicks the snot out of the Archos 70.
Seems the 101 was outdated upon release and to add salt to the wound, they capped the cpu that was already designed to be dynamic and clock to usage- wild.
BTW, I do not agree that video is MUCH better, but is better, none the less. The 101 handles higher def video better, due to more mature support for the 3630, but 1080p does not work well on the 3630 either. Hidef seems pointless anyway on a portable device, due to space and battery drain. Not to mention the display is not 1080p. I think people latching on to the video mantra of the 101 are putting far too much stock in the actual difference it makes.
All of my vids play fine on the Gtablet, but I do not care for 1080p and 720p MP4 tends to be space and battery drainers too. Still wish those would work on the Gtablet.
I own neither right now but am sort of in the same boat as the poster.
Here's what sort of changed my mind...
I purchased and received my Archos 101 and it was dead on arrival brand new from Amazon. I know crap happens but it really got to me since I'd felt like a kid on Christmas day when it came. Imagine getting something you're EAGER for an anticipating and then not having it work? We can't really blame Archos for this entirely though since it happens with every product.
Anyway, what actually got to me was calling Archos....the CS guy wasn't much help and tried to convince me to send it in for repair vs. Amazon return. But who wants to send in their brand new device with the possibility of getting back someone else's used device? Right? He couldn't guarantee that I'd get back my brand new and repaired unit plus I had to pay shipping. In essence, my price for the 101 would have been almost 370 in the end, so I just told him no thanks and sent it back to Amazon.
I ordered the Archos in the first place because while I can see myself rooting and modding, to me it's an unnecessary hassle vs. just getting something that's supposed to work. In other words, I had your outlook. Excited about the modding potential, but better suited to official support, so really I just prefer getting the updates in OTAs than rooting and modding.
The Archos 101/70 seem to 'just work'. And I'd been planning on slapping the official/unofficial? Google Market on there for good measure so I was prepared to get my hands dirty somehow anyway as I wasn't sure if this meant I needed to root or not. Archos has also, recently seemed to show that they're at least trying to get updates out the door while Viewsonic's site didn't at the time have any updates posted for the G tablet and it seemed like it was just some hardware put out and then forgotten.
However, when I was 'forced' to check out the G tablet more thoroughly it would seem it's not 1/2 as bad as I'd seen or read about (youtube, blogs, etc.) where users called TnT horrible and writers referred to it as garbage and unusable etc. I say 'forced' because I couldn't RMA the 101 for exchange as Amazon was out of stock, I had to RMA for refund. Then on impulse, I decided to get the G Tablet...because I'm plain through with waiting.
I'd known it had more raw power than the 101 but upon further reading here on xda and watching newer youtube videos it seems TnT isn't that bad if you factory reset first and start 'fresh'. Not to mention the fact that the mod community has embraced the G tablet as something 'good'. Viewsonic is also pretty 'vocal' for the most part on Twitter, and that has to count for something in terms of getting our voices heard by the company. Archos is there too but their posts are mostly about where to buy the tablet or that they're available at so and so.
My point being, I don't think it would hurt to at least try the G Tab first. Had I known then what I know now (and I should have, as I am somewhat of a tech head) I would have just gone with the G Tab and in some ways, I'm happy the 101 came DoA or maybe I'd have happily settled for a single core, 720p playing Android tablet vs. something with more power and thus potential...a dual core with 1080p playing capability and the ability to do everything faster.
Also, modding isn't horrible. It's a scary thing to think you have to do something that may brick your device to get it to an even workable state...but this isn't the case.
Even if you've never done it before once you're thorough and read/understand/execute in detail, you'll never brick. Most experienced modders can root and slap a new ROM on their devices in 20m or less (depending on the ROM size, etc) but don't watch that....if it takes you even an hour, as long as you do it right the first time (in terms of getting a recovery mod in there), you're going to be fine from then on. You'll have the added bonus of messing around with a variation of ROMs and may realize something's there that you like even more than the stock. You also have the backing of XDA devs which is a great, great thing.
My 2c.
I currently own both the GTab (running TnTLite 2.3) and an Archos 101 (finally) with the latest firmware update. Both have their good and bad sides and if you've been hanging around here, you should have a pretty good idea of what those are.
The GTab:
Pros: Fast processor, easy to hack, not easy to brick, good XDA support
Cons: Not great viewing angle, questionable (stock) UI, questionable support (from ViewSonic)
The Archos 101:
Pros: Better viewing angle, decent support (from my experience, so far,) very good multimedia support and streaming, much lighter than the GTab, built-in kickstand, HDMI out
Cons: Very locked down (but can still sideload,) slower CPU (even at 1Gz,) HDMI not reliable (at least for me)
I like them both, for different uses. I like to hack around and get to know the OS and the GTab (and my DROID) are great for that. For daily use, I use the 101 since it is lighter to carry around and has the built-in kickstand.
my $.02
I have to agree with most. I also had interest in the archos but was part of the waiting game and the misleading info from the company itself.
My draw to the archos was it being a lightweight device. HDMI ready to use and the media player that seems to be the attractive feature in comparison.
But I must say being part of this site gave me insight and "again" bumped into the gtab. At first glance the device SW is horrid to say the least. Why would they butcher it, is beyond my reasoning (perhaps a sweet deal played out w/tapntap) and the #1 problem for users trying it out of box as is. They should seriously post in the box or pamphlet to register at xda. lol.
Once you fiddle with the device(using a custom build like TnTlite/VEGAn you wont regard making your decison. Archos is limited as meantion herein and your halt for the possiblities that lay ahead.
So Yes you can say the archos is lighter, has the hdmi port... a kickstand.
I agree the Gtab is heavier in comparison, and for some the viewing angles are bad, but in the end, The Gtab is here now with an awesome HW and will be here tomorrow.
Thanks!!
Wow, thanks to all who have responded.... I am leaning heavily towards the G Tab, sounds like it would be a fun device to mod. I want a good media player in my device, that is the biggest reason I am considering Archos. I own an old 504 80gb and I have used it almost everyday. I want to take the next step up to touch screen and Android, but I want the device to have some what of a future. Seems to me Archos puts devices out that are already one generation old when they hit the market. Must be their business model to buy new every 1-2 years. I would like to have my device for minimum of 2-3 years before I upgrade.
Thanks
My brief thoughts on the matter, as posted on Archos fans forum.
"I have a GTab as well as a 101. And there is NO comparison: My GTab blows the 101 away on speed, responsiveness, and smoothness. Its just uglier & heavier! Lol! My 11 year old daughter has lay claim on my GTab. She's lucky I love her (and am afraid of my wife)! Lol! . . . Admittedly, a lot of tweaks have gone into the device as it clearly was bad straight out of the box. All I know is with a custom ROM, mine flies."
http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=43968
Just got a G-tab from local Sears last night.
Took me couple of hours to get it going with the latest TNT Lite and market fix. (still new to all of this.)
First I wanted to get 101, but it was sold out everywhere.
G-Tab was horrible with stock UI. After loading TNT, it is much better, but it has ways to go. I like the responsiveness. Still have to get used to the interface. And run some video tests. (I would like to use it in the car as an entertainment system for my kids.) HDMI via dock may be a deal killer to me.
I don't like the screen and ergonomics of the device. I will probably play around with a device, for a couple of weeks and then return it to Sears. Still want to see what will happen at CES. Perhaps Adam, will fit me better.
I first buy the archos 101 for my birthday on november and its not so good. Example no custom roms, speed capped at 800mhz, one of the speakers stop working ,its feel very plastic cheap! I just returned to amazon and get the g-tablet its a diferent kind of animal! Tegra 2, 512mb ram, lots of custom roms.
Its your choice! But im super happy with g-tablet never looked back since i buyit!
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Also, modding isn't horrible. It's a scary thing to think you have to do something that may brick your device to get it to an even workable state...but this isn't the case.
Even if you've never done it before once you're thorough and read/understand/execute in detail, you'll never brick. Most experienced modders can root and slap a new ROM on their devices in 20m or less (depending on the ROM size, etc) but don't watch that....if it takes you even an hour, as long as you do it right the first time (in terms of getting a recovery mod in there), you're going to be fine from then on. You'll have the added bonus of messing around with a variation of ROMs and may realize something's there that you like even more than the stock. You also have the backing of XDA devs which is a great, great thing.
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I THINK its even more brick proof than people realize. I took mine from an infinite boot loop state with a partitioned (completely deleted) sd card and no back ups all the way back to stock in about five minutes (clockworkmod was the ONLY thing working) after spending about 25 minutes reading about NVFLASH and finding the correct usb to gtab driver for my pc operating system (mine was winxp pro but there was support for vista, win 7 64 and linux).
Thanks again Roebeet for pointing me in the right direction.
Pretty muck "brick proof-tacular" if you are willing to ask for help/read through threads/research.
I am fortunate enough to have both devices and did a comprehensive review with video for anyone who is still interested: http://www.blendblog.net/Default.aspx?tabid=36&EntryID=64.
They both have strengths and weaknesses as I point out in my review.
Sean
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I THINK its even more brick proof than people realize. I took mine from an infinite boot loop state with a partitioned (completely deleted) sd card and no back ups all the way back to stock in about five minutes (clockworkmod was the ONLY thing working) after spending about 25 minutes reading about NVFLASH and finding the correct usb to gtab driver for my pc operating system (mine was winxp pro but there was support for vista, win 7 64 and linux).
Thanks again Roebeet for pointing me in the right direction.
Pretty muck "brick proof-tacular" if you are willing to ask for help/read through threads/research.
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This has been my experience too... bought my G-Tab (after spending hours pouring over reviews etc.) fiddled around with ROM's, managed to get it stuck in an infinite boot loop (Clockwork does NOT like NVflash!) Took about a hour reading up on NVFlash (THANKS Roebeet!!!) and got it back running again. Then did it again several more times, just to be sure. So that's cool and all..
One problem tho'... the screen.
I've seen lot's of talk about how great/awful the viewing angles are for the G-Tab. With mine, when looked at perpendicular/directly on, it looks great! But tilt is just a bit away from you (as if to place it on a table) and it gets immediately blurry and weird-looking colors (like a cheap LCD laptop screen)
HOWEVER, turn it over (so's the dock port is on the top) and do the same tilt and it looks normal (a bit washed out, but normal color and no LCD blur) all the way flat on the table... IS THE SCREEN INSTALLED UPSIDE DOWN??? Could this be why some people have such opposite experiences? I looked on YouTube at some viewing angle reviews and their G-Tabs looked like mine does when it's upside-down!? I took it back to Sears and got another one, took it home and same thing! So I took it back, too and got money back and am now trying to figure out weather or not to try the Archos... still hooked on the G-Tab though, it was so nice, except for having to keep it pointed exactly at 90-degree viewing angle. Any thoughts? And another big Thanks to Roebeet, just loved TNTlite!
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This has been my experience too... bought my G-Tab (after spending hours pouring over reviews etc.) fiddled around with ROM's, managed to get it stuck in an infinite boot loop (Clockwork does NOT like NVflash!) Took about a hour reading up on NVFlash (THANKS Roebeet!!!) and got it back running again. Then did it again several more times, just to be sure. So that's cool and all..
One problem tho'... the screen.
I've seen lot's of talk about how great/awful the viewing angles are for the G-Tab. With mine, when looked at perpendicular/directly on, it looks great! But tilt is just a bit away from you (as if to place it on a table) and it gets immediately blurry and weird-looking colors (like a cheap LCD laptop screen)
HOWEVER, turn it over (so's the dock port is on the top) and do the same tilt and it looks normal (a bit washed out, but normal color and no LCD blur) all the way flat on the table... IS THE SCREEN INSTALLED UPSIDE DOWN??? Could this be why some people have such opposite experiences? I looked on YouTube at some viewing angle reviews and their G-Tabs looked like mine does when it's upside-down!? I took it back to Sears and got another one, took it home and same thing! So I took it back, too and got money back and am now trying to figure out weather or not to try the Archos... still hooked on the G-Tab though, it was so nice, except for having to keep it pointed exactly at 90-degree viewing angle. Any thoughts? And another big Thanks to Roebeet, just loved TNTlite!
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Ummmm.... this is not meant to be rude at all but I have to speak my mind.
For 300 bucks you need to get over it and enjoy the awesomeness you get out of ten inches that I paid to get 4 inches from my GSM (fml)
The Screen is a 300$ screen... be happy you got one before it sold out.
Not rude at all... in fact I had the same thought process... HOWEVER it was $400 ($369 listed on line, but $399 in the store, $440 with taxes [they said I'd have to return the one I bought in the store, order another online and pick it up at the merch. pick-up to get the online price] ) so it was a bit more than $300.If it were, I'd be much more inclined to just suck it up and enjoy the zippy-fast and get a stand that would hold it at the right angle... I'm looking at a "lightly used" one online that comes with a stand and chip for under $400 that I may get. I've even considered a ~$200 Chinese knock-off with a resistive screen, but I think I'd hate it, no Multi-Touch, slow response, etc. I guess it's just a balance of how much $$ with what features.
Originally, I ordered a Xoom from Verizon, but $800 plus $20/month seemed too too much! So I cancelled the order - for $35 "restocking fee" ugh, I hate phone companies - I still want a Xoom tho'.
I'm just wondering if anybody else has notice the "upside-down screen" thing, or am I nuts?
Update: Just found G-Tab for $299 on eBay/Tigerdirect with free shipping, 10 left...
gtab viewing angles
Yeah, On gtab noticed the screen has better viewing angles from top and left side than bottom and right. I dont know if that means they are building it installed upside down but they should move the factory to the southern hemisphere if they are ;-) or something.
Lousy viewing in the sun, regardless of angle.
Also wish the return key wasn't so badly placed, hold it in the right hand only and bound to hit the return key...
So the color has had hcfor a while and there is a functional ics rom out now. Would you trade your tablet for the color if you had the chance? To have a actual well partial bc or ice tablet.
Personally I probably wouldn't because I feel the tablet will only get better with time and the great devs we have working on it.
Why should somebody do that? NT is much better than a NC, it's been only 2 months since NT release. Custom roms doesn't appear magically they take time to be deloped and tested, Devs are close to achive a recovery boot and only then we can think in GB, HC and ICS.
NT doubles the NC in everything (exept price ) NT will be better so we only have to be patient and support developers.
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Not a chance. The NC has it's CyanogenMod and what not. But, the NT is just a better piece of technology. Of course, I hope that we break all the walls keeping us from modding the **** out of this thing; but, I could be perfectly happy with the root privileges that I have now.
I bought my NT to be a tablet, I read books, stuff for work (mostly pdf), watch movies, surf the web, send/receive email, and little else. I've always seen the tablet as a bridge between the smartphone and the laptop -- the NT does this with flying colors.
I'm a flash addict. Have been for about seven years now. I love pushing hardware and trying to make devices and software do things that they were never designed to do. But, I will (almost) never opt for a markedly worse piece of hardware for what I see as superfluous alterability.
I'll be watching dev threads and helping any way I can. But, much like the Detroit Lions fan in me, I'm pretty satisfied with how far things have come.
Yeah, no way. I gave away my old NC with CM7 to a family member and got the NT. I liked everything about the NC except the speed. It just felt slow and laggy on most things, even overclocked.
About ICS, I can wait. I have other tablets that will get it soon anyway.
I wouldn't trade it either. I'm doing pretty well with root and side loading apks. My galaxy nexus cdma is getting all of my attention right now anyways
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My interest in nooks began on the 27th of Dec with an NC my good friend had received for Christmas. We tried a few roms, but in the end we decided to take it back and he got a NT instead.
On the 1st we rooted the NT, learned a few more advanced techniques for side loading and such. He took it with him back to Cali, he loves it. His brother is asking me to do one for him and mail it.
Grand pa is buying a NT for "The Joe" treatment also. I thought about the KF, but I find the idea of non expandable storage more offensive than a locked bootloader. Maybe thats just me. NC isnt even on the menu.
Not me. I'm having too much fun with the Nook Tablet
I have to agree with everyone else and say, no, I wouldn't trade mine. It is a nice piece of hardware and as it is right now, it does anything I want it to do and then some.
The development will get there, I have no doubt about that. These guys/gals have done amazing things so far!
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Same here. my wife has a nook color already and she gave me NT for christmas. the NT is alot faster than the color especialy loading webpages and playing movies, plus it has the mike on which is ok i use speak to it assistant and it works just fine
I agree with everyone else. With the root from indirect and the ability to load other apps and change the launcher, I can be satisfied until we can load GB, HC or ICS. For me, the NT is an investment in better hardware that will serve me into the future as the software catches up.
I gather the holiday return policy doesn't end until 1/31, so anyone who would trade it certainly has the opportunity.
My NT works very, very well for play. It only works so-so for the work I have envisioned for it due to the lack of USB host. I'm stunned by how quickly the devs have figured out ways around and even through what was called an unbreakable security system (aren't they all called that ) at the very beginning. If there weren't so much hope on the horizon, I might well trade 'down' to get the extra productivity and settle for less entertainment power. But I'm glad it looks like I don't need to.
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So the color has had hcfor a while and there is a functional ics rom out now. Would you trade your tablet for the color if you had the chance? To have a actual well partial bc or ice tablet.
Personally I probably wouldn't because I feel the tablet will only get better with time and the great devs we have working on it.
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there is a HUGE difference between a decent port of ics and what you are referring to as a "functional ics rom" (the only one I can find is still an alpha build)
ics will never run on the NC the way it will (eventually) on the NT, the NC just doesn't have the hardware speed.
so no I wouldn't downgrade to the NC, that would be ludicrous!
the dev's are still in the initial breakthrough phase on the NT and granted don't have a fully polished ROM out for the general public yet, but it's coming!
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Not a chance. The NC has it's CyanogenMod and what not. But, the NT is just a better piece of technology. Of course, I hope that we break all the walls keeping us from modding the **** out of this thing; but, I could be perfectly happy with the root privileges that I have now.
I bought my NT to be a tablet, I read books, stuff for work (mostly pdf), watch movies, surf the web, send/receive email, and little else. I've always seen the tablet as a bridge between the smartphone and the laptop -- the NT does this with flying colors.
I'm a flash addict. Have been for about seven years now. I love pushing hardware and trying to make devices and software do things that they were never designed to do. But, I will (almost) never opt for a markedly worse piece of hardware for what I see as superfluous alterability.
I'll be watching dev threads and helping any way I can. But, much like the Detroit Lions fan in me, I'm pretty satisfied with how far things have come.
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I'm with you. For $50 more you get a better process, more ram, more memory, and a better overall device. Sure, right now it isnt as" moddable" as the NC, But I'm sure with time, it will be. Right now, have root access and being able tin install the android market and the amazon market have already made it basically an android tablet that can do anything its brethren can. I'm perfectly happy with it. when the bootloader is unlocked ans the 16gb of built in is accessible by non-BN content, I'll be happier, but I'm in no hurry. The 32 gig sd card is nowhere near being full.
Another no here. With a few minutes of work, I've got a tablet that's fully rooted and it's running faster and smoother than my color with CyanogenMod ever did.
A agree with everyone. My daughters tablet is alot faster than my color. Even the sound is better. I have volume + on hers and mine and the tablet for some reason sounds alot better than the color, even at the same settings. Almost makes me want to trade mine or sell it and get the tablet. Even with the way the tablet is rooted, there is no difference than my color running phiremod, So imagine what it will be like when the tablet can have custom roms!
Speaking of a trade in, my wife got my color from Walmart for me for Christmas......can I get it exchanged as mentioned above or is that only for barnes and nobel?
I wouldn't think of trading it in. Patience is a virtue, and spending $50 to get double the hardware specs I don't mind waiting for the rewards to come in.
I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
Although I'm really satisfied with the capabilities of even just a regular root, the only time I've regretted buying an NT was when I heard Asus was coming out with a new 7 inch tablet later this year. That makes me want to sell this thing instantly, haha.
To be honest with you i bought my NT as a stop gap between selling my iPad2 and waiting for the iPad3.. with the intent to sell this once i picked up the new iPad..
and for the first week or two i did regret buying it but then.. Considering what i use it for
1.Watch movies (netflix, hulu, and divx on the SD card),
2 Browse the internet and 3. Actually read a book or two.. it's actually perfect for all that.
Used the SD card method to root (Thanks Albert) and then side loaded all the apps that i needed. Never had Wifi or reboot issues, the screen is actually brighter and clearer than the iPad 2 i had and the battery life is above average for a 7 inch
I will be holding on to this for a while.. and i think once they perfect the other rom's and get the bluetooth working it's actually a keeper.. especially if ICS gets ported.
But as always you have to ask yourself does it do what i need?.. the only reason to get a different tablet would be if you needed GPS, Camera's, bigger screen, 3G, a different app store, video out etc....
if none of that is the reason.. then whatever tablet you buy will fill you with the same... should i have really bought this feeling..
I am comparing the NT with the $199 refurbished 16Gb HTC Flyer. I find that I miss CM7 on the Flyer... and the Flyer somehow seems harder to hold. I guess I got used to both CM7 and the bezel on the Nook Color and now the Nook Tablet. I haven't decided which I will keep yet, but I am leaning towards keeping the NT.
Heck no ... I've had 250.00 dollars worth of hacking fun with mine I have a feeling there is a lot more coming. Just wish I knew how to code to help out
Basically it boils down to what you want to do with it. Technically, you bought an e-reader. If you wanted more, you should have bought more. Myself personally, I came to XDA before I made up my mind between various tablets. I settled on the NT because I could see there was a bright future for it. The hardware bugs will be worked out eventually. Blame B&N for the hold-ups thus far. Give it a while. If you sell now, in 6 months, you will regret buying something else and will be looking to get another NT.
Understandably, there are limitations to this device. It's half the price of an iPad. You don't get any of the fancy things like GPS, 3G/LTE, camera, etc. But it is a great tablet for the money.
I bought this because my cheap e-reader broke. It was mainly to read with. That said, since I bought it 2 months ago, I haven't read more than a page of a book!
I've had tons of fun putting Android on, customizing it, and getting it how I like it. I'll be 10 times happier when a fully functional port of ICS is released for it. Netflix and videos look amazing on its screen, indisputably better than the supposedly identical screen on the Kindle Fire (just read ANY review).
I've never had an issue with the WIFI dropping or restarting. There are a few issues that the great devs and contributors here have helped me to conquer.
There are still a couple things I'd like to see get done to this device though, other than the glorious port of ICS. I'd love to be able to use ALL of the 16 GB of data on board. That was one top reason I chose it over the Fire, but I'm confident the great people here will solve that in time. Another is that, despite there not being onboard GPS, I'd still like location-based tools to work, like they do on any other WIFI device like my phone.
Other than that, I'm really happy with what I bought. I may not use it for what I initially intended, but hey, who has time to read when you're busy installing your favourite apps, customizing widgets, and making your home page perfect?
And on the issue of buyer's regret, when it comes to tablets and smartphones, there will ALWAYS be something better within 3-6 months!
You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
My only regret so far is that I got the 8gb NT. It is actually my father-in-law's device, but I told him I would configure it to have better access to the Android market. I had read several posts about rooting and installing Go launcher (or equivalent) and was excited to do this. For the time being at least, it doesn't look like this is an option, and the 512k RAM looks to be an issue. I may try to convince him to return it and get the 16GB version. Since it's not mine, I guess I need to let him see if he is happy with it, but I'm chomping at the bit to put some of the great work from this forum to good use on his system!
Maybe I will have to just get my own. I have been talking about getting some kind of tablet with my wife, and will likely get something in the next couple months. Since I am used to a smartphone, it's hard not being able to install any app that I am familiar with, and I will likely go for something with more features.
As others have said, it's all about what you actually need/expect. And there will always be times when you second-guess what you do purchase... Buyer's remorse is just part of being human, IMO!
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I have been using the NT for about a month and a half, and honestly I think I should have gotten something better.
It does have its problems such as the wifi connection drops a lot and I have to restart the tablet. This is not the fault of the devs, but of B&N. I don't understand why we should have to hack and find workarounds just to get the full use of the NT.
Does anyone else feel that they should have gotten a different tablet? Perhaps an actual tablet?
I am considering selling the NT. I don't think I would have had the amount of issues with an actual tablet and one that is not so locked down.
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Well, I was able to get my Nook Tablet much more easily than a Kindle Fire because my University has a deal with Barnes & Noble; my school bookstore is basically a small B&N store full of textbooks. If I had the choice, I would have chosen the Kindle Fire, but I still like my Nook Tablet, especially now that CM7 is running on it.
I don't regret it, but let me say - I never liked my device hacks to be easy! Sounds masochistic, yes, but I've always enjoyed installing custom firmware on stuff that, until some hackers got a hold of it, was never able to run anything other than what the manufacturers intended. I'm talking about Wii, PSP, PDAs, etc.
If you think development for the Nook Tab is rough, think about how slow and brutal it was getting the PSP to run custom software. I suffered at least one electrocution modding the thing's battery because I didn't have much experience with moving pins on a chipset. It was worth it to get homebrew stuff running on there though.
My point is, while the Kindle Fire owners do have it a lot easier than us, I enjoy witnessing the development process first-hand; it's oddly satisfying. I understand some people around these forums are only here because they wanted a cheap CyanogenMod 7 Tablet and want to see the Nook Tablet become that - but I'll be lurking around here long after the Nook Tablet devs reach their goals because I'm fascinated by hacking and modifying devices.
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You can use your 16Gb, just repartition it, it is very easy.
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I just realized that after my post. Haven't checked the posts here lately. It seems a little complicated for a noob like me. Plus, don't I have to install CM7 also to do it?
No you don't need to run CM7 to repartition, I am noob as well, it is very easy, it just looks hard.
Just follow this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22157605&postcount=25
Partition 10 is where you would put you own data
Partition 11 is where all apps go, when you install them.
on mine i did half half because a lot of games are pretty big and need space, but you can change it to you own need.
just do the commands in bold black, the rest that you see is what your nook outputs.
Update after using the HTC Flyer for a bit more. I think I will sell my 2 Nook Tablets and keep the HTC Flyers. At $199 they just offer so much more.... GPS, front and back cameras, working bluetooth, working skype, dual speakers that are loud, HDMI out via MHL (adapter on the way). The built-in 16gb is partitioned so there is 8+ GB for media stuff. And for my almost 7 year old, he loves that Talking Tomcat and Talking Ben work, and Galaxy on Fire 2 runs fast on the Flyer as well since there is a native adreno version. It is only single core but runs at 1.5ghz and has 1gb ram so it feels as fast at the NT if not faster in some cases. The Adreno 205 gpu is not rated quite as good as the Powervr SGX540 but seems to be well supported for gaming. Not to say that there are not some annoyances with the Flyer. I can't seem to turn off the lock screen. There is no CM7 though there are custom roms for both Gingerbread and Honeycomb for the Flyer (need to root and unlock the device first). And I need to find better cases for them. Anyway I think the refurbished HTC Flyer is a keeper at $199 from buy.com And of course I can read on them with Moon+ Reader Pro, Kindle App, Nook App, etc.
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So far no regrets. Just installed cm7 and happy.
Plus I only paid $175 for my 16gb tablet on Craigslist.
Hopefully cm9 makes it's way to the tablet.
My only regrets are the possibility of what the Asus tablet might offer and that the NT can be had for $175 now. Those aren't really fair reasons though since there will always be price drops and always be new options if you wait. I wanted it for Christmas and it's been everything I expected. I'm rooted at 1.4.0, zero WiFi issues and it's never rebooted (I did have a frozen screen once). I plan on staying on this platform until the fine developers on this forum give me the option of ICS for my NT!
I have no regrets at all. It let me do everything I really cared about right out of the box for a price I didn't mind paying. Any additional functionality after ebooks, videos, music and some light web browsing is just so much gravy as far as I'm concerned.
I love it, but primarily because I bought into the B&N ecosystem years ago (I have about 400 books and magazine subscriptions). It's much more pleasant to read on the NT than it is on my iPad, due to weight and size. Movies are great, except for the below-average speaker. I don't surf the Internet on my NT; if I have to do it mobile, I prefer to leave that to my phone since I can do it one-handed. My only qualms:
1. There needs to be an Economist magazine app, built for the Nook. You can't install the one from Android Market, even after rooting.
2. The speaker, as mentioned above.
3. The little hook in the bottom corner is kinda annoying. Yes, I know it makes the design unique, but it gets in the way. It also makes accessing the MicroSD card a pain.
4. At $250, GPS would've been nice. Not that I expect to carry it around for turn-by-turn, but I'd like to access the map and Yelp for places to eat while in my hotel room.
I don't regret getting the NT16 at all. But then again my uses for the device are:
1. Reading. I read a LOT.
2. Playing games
3. Surfing the internet
4. Study device (read pdfs/powerpoints/word docs for school)
I also have music and movies stored on the device for the day when I need to entertain myself outside reading/games and off a wifi network. It's small and light enough to carry at all times in my purse or backpack and zippy enough to do what I need it to do.
Once CM9 is released I'll have to debate a lot on whether or not I want to keep my simple root with the BN eReader or upgrade to ICS for full tablet capabilities (like all those excellent note taking apps compatible with Honeycomb/ICS)
No regrets at all.
Initially when it appeared that B&N was going to hound us endlessly trying to disable root and return everyone's NT to 'jail', I was a bit resentful. I still don't recommend the NT to others because I don't trust them.
But I should have known the dimbulbs in B&N management are no match for the talented devs here. I've got no worries that my device can be ruined with an underhanded update- and I haven't done much of anything to secure it since I first rooted it back in December or so. (Still running rooted 1.4.0 with no problems). The fact that it can now run CM7 (which I haven't tried yet) is just icing on the cake. I'm guessing I'll love it even more once I get around to trying that.
The tablet does everything I need it to and more, and was a good deal for the price.
Next tablet I own probably won't be a locked device, but as for the NT itself, no regrets. That's 100% thanks to the devs here.
[UPDATE 08.06.12] Got a news:
There is a webstore listed the price as $29 of genuine leather case&bluetooth keyboard for Gtablet.But not includ shipping.any ideas?
Sorry.. Forgot the link.
Seems still on sale at electroniccrap.com but price difference.
More than 1 year of Gtablet available. Do you still keep it in your hand or instead of with other tablet pc?
Long live with me
Inside the hardware motherboard,
and outside touch screen, volume button, power button, charger connector
And a lot more
nope
but it is collecting dust nicely
I am actually just own the gtablet, after playing it for a few days, I kind of like it and think I will keep it for at least a year or two since there's already Ice Cream Sandwich available for the gtablet.
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I am actually just own the gtablet, after playing it for a few days, I kind of like it and think I will keep it for at least a year or two since there's already Ice Cream Sandwich available for the gtablet.
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Amazing! actually,Gtablet is a nice advice if you dont mind of the size and weight.
Had mine for almost a year now and I actually don't use my laptop for anything except the occasional NVflash for the tablet when I change from bootloader to bootloader, thats when I am bored with the ROM that I am using. My poor baby has been through he'll and back and it has the hole on the back to prove it, but she still lives and runs like new.
Stays in garage as dedicated Pandora player. Occasional internet browsing.
I still use mine every day. I have to admit that it is getting harder since the newer roms don't support the usb and camera. I use mine with the keyboard to make it easier to type. I also read e-books on just about every night.
owner since April 2011
on Calkulin + Clemsyn Combo Overclock at 1.5 ghz V8
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I still use mine but for fun. My kids use it for gaming and some educational games/videos. my wife uses it for Angry Birds lol. I installed the ICS by tjohnson and I found new love for this puppy all over again
I still use mine daily.
Same as some of the others -- I have re-soldered the Power connector (twice). It look pretty bad - a chunk missing from near the search button, and the back is very rough looking.
I almost bought a Toshiba Thrive the other day (Better screen - full set of full size connectors). It was reduced at BestBuy.
I think my G-Tablet is good enough for the immediate future, but at some point, I will find a deal similar to (better than) the deal on the Thrive, and I will go for it.
I use mine for business everyday for almost two years now. I have a 7" that I use in my car and for reading and quick email check... it boots much quicker and downloads mail much faster than HC 3.2 (2.3). I love it and don't need anything else right now for my daily business use. I rarely use my laptop anymore.
dragonflame2045 said:
I still use mine every day. I have to admit that it is getting harder since the newer roms don't support the usb and camera. I use mine with the keyboard to make it easier to type. I also read e-books on just about every night.
owner since April 2011
on Calkulin + Clemsyn Combo Overclock at 1.5 ghz V8
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I don't know what USB problems you have ran in to, but all the latest ROMS support the USB keyboard. At lease all the one I have trued which is just about all the 1.2 based ROMS. Currently running ROMS listed in my signature have been working great for my GTab when it is in its case with built in USB keyboard. Now the camera however has issues with those ICE ROMS, but that's what my phone is for.
I still use mine almost everyday. It's an excellent travel mate. I had trouble with it a month ago with a rom I had placed on it. It kept freezing and rebooting. I also notice that the jack for the charger is getting loose. I just put ICS on it and I'm happy with it. It's like a new tablet. However, its time is limited. Like someone else mentioned in a previous post I am keeping my eye open for a good deal on a newer tablet. I want something thinner with a better screen. I may just spring for a Transformer Prime in a few months.
My G-Tab has been forgotten somewhere in the house for about a year now. After constantly trying with different ROM's I decided to stop wasting time. Every ROM has something I need that doesn't work. I use it to watch movies and I would have to convert my movies at low profile in order to view it. The viewing angle on the G-Tab is also very limited and I would have to tilt it at a weird angle to see it at best. I'll not buy anything from ViewSonic again. This company doesn't provide any software upgrade to their products.
I do appreciate all the people working on ROM for this device. However, even with your talent and dedication, it's still not perfect due to limited resource you have.
My stepson has G-harmony gingerbread on his, he uses it for gaming and web surfing. I just installed G-harmony ICS on mine and i use it for lots of stuff, email, web browsing, games, I read a lot of ebooks and I watch the occasional movie on it.
I agree with the comment about the horrible way Viewsonic has supported the gtablet but the dev community has done a great job in the company's place. I have been through most of Roebeet's Roms and I am now using TeamDRH's ICS. Work is being done on the drivers for the camera and mike so there is more life for this tablet. I'm not ready to retire mine and use it daily for web browsing, reading and a few other apps. I have the dock which is handy and also use a bluetooth keyboard with it when doing a lot of typing.
toiday said:
Every ROM has something I need that doesn't work.
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Same here. I'm still waiting for a ICS ROM with HDMI. Recently purchased a no-name 7-inch ICS tablet with HDMI running the Allwinner A10 processor. Very impressive video performance for a tablet less than $100. Still I'd like to use the G-Tablet in its dock with my wireless KB/touchpad to watch live streaming sports on TV. But without HDMI for the G-Tablet the whole setup just sits in an AV cabinet, waiting.
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Same here. I'm still waiting for a ICS ROM with HDMI. Recently purchased a no-name 7-inch ICS tablet with HDMI running the Allwinner A10 processor. Very impressive video performance for a tablet less than $100. Still I'd like to use the G-Tablet in its dock with my wireless KB/touchpad to watch live streaming sports on TV. But without HDMI for the G-Tablet the whole setup just sits in an AV cabinet, waiting.
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your no-name 7" table is the NOVO7 Aurora ?
I'm a college student always on the go so my gtab is pretty much my laptop and my life lol. I have a nice screen protector and a stylish uscratchble surface on the back of my tablet. I am hoping my tablet will survive years to come because I don't have money for a new one..=/...But I would trade my tablet and the $60 hdmi stand any day for a nexus 7.. regardess of the extra like $25 I spent on the front and back cover.
My Gtab has been steady and working great for over a year. I dumped the tnt that it came with and used HC 3.03, works great. The only thing that I wish was that the Ram was upgradable. I will be trying ICS as soon as its a more stable/less buggy version comes out.