I Write This Because I'm Not Really Impressed.
New Icons. Okay.
Quadrant Scores Of 2,400-2,700. Same As Froyo, Thought I Had A Dual Core Phone.
No Screen Off Animation. Wasn't That Gingerbread's "Thing"??
What's Everyone Else's Feelings About The Update?
Yes, I'm On The Pre-Rooted Version.
Deodexed And Debloated.
well since there's pre-rooted gingerbread it's just lazyness holding back people from RE-re-re-establishing their phone again
darn you factory reset
I was expecting something more along the lines of the DROID 3 gingerbread and was really excited. I'm just happy to be on 2.3 because it provides a lot of benefits under the hood.
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I was expecting something more along the lines of the DROID 3 gingerbread and was really excited. I'm just happy to be on 2.3 because it provides a lot of benefits under the hood.
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P3Droid had stated their is a rumored 2.3.4 update for both X and X2. That will most likely have the latest "blur". You are right, the performance is quite good, can't really go by quadrant. Most benchmarks come close to Droid 3 anyway and I think that is the best you can do with our chipset and the lack 512 max memory on a stock kernel. Would love to see what having an unlocked bootloader (wishful thinking) and custom kernels can do for performance.
I am impressed with the update. Overall feel is very snappy. Big time improvement.
I left the thunderbolt and came to the X2 and was disappointed until the update. Now I prefer the X2. Quality control on the thunderbolt was lacking severly.
I love the rooted update froyo is just 2 laggy 2.3 is waaaaay better (after you remove all the bloat)
I'd say 2.3.3 and hopefully we will get 2.3.4 soon, AOSP would be awesome, could care less about blur. Some of the benches I did produced results better than the droid 3, and pretty much equal to the photon, if not better in some areas. IMO it's not the hardware that's holding these phones back, it's the software.
I'm very happy with gingerbread, it really doesn't even need to be debloated to run well. I only removed about 12 things just stuff I saw running as a service that I know I don't use/need. Now after killing everything I show 190MB free, 100-140 before killing processes.
It fixed the camcorder too, that was bugging me to no end.
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I got 2600 quadrant and 4810 antutu.
I just did one test each.
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I have been on Gingerbread since about 1AM Thursday morning and have to say it's far better than 2.2.2 in the performance department. Sure, it looks like they mostly themed the thing but they also apparently made a lot of improvements with memory management. Now I am just hopeful that the bootloader get's unlocked and then the real fun can begin. It should not be too long now.
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I was expecting something more along the lines of the DROID 3 gingerbread and was really excited. I'm just happy to be on 2.3 because it provides a lot of benefits under the hood.
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My thoughts exactly. Performance does seem better, but I'm not at all impressed with Blur. I'll probably go back to using ADW if it works ok with GB.
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I have been on Gingerbread since about 1AM Thursday morning and have to say it's far better than 2.2.2 in the performance department. Sure, it looks like they mostly themed the thing but they also apparently made a lot of improvements with memory management. Now I am just hopeful that the bootloader get's unlocked and then the real fun can begin. It should not be too long now.
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The difference between Froyo and Gingerbread is WAAAAAY more than how it looks. In parlance it got a new paint job, and a jet motor.
I'm with you on bootloader waiting, I really hope that the alleged 4Q 2011 unlock happens. I would love to run a kernel that isn't crippled by Motorola for a change.
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I Would Love An Unlocked Bootloader Too. I'm Not Saying That 2.3.3 Is Garbage It's Just Not What I Thought It Was Gonna Be. The System Is Handling Memory Alot Better As I Now Have 150-200Mb Free Without Any Scripts Or Programs. I Agree That 2.3.4 Will Be The Icing On This Version. *Crossing Fingers* I Really Appreciate All The Responses Just Seeing If You Noticed Anything Special Or Bugs.
Thanks.
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I Would Love An Unlocked Bootloader Too. I'm Not Saying That 2.3.3 Is Garbage It's Just Not What I Thought It Was Gonna Be. The System Is Handling Memory Alot Better As I Now Have 150-200Mb Free Without Any Scripts Or Programs. I Agree That 2.3.4 Will Be The Icing On This Version. *Crossing Fingers* I Really Appreciate All The Responses Just Seeing If You Noticed Anything Special Or Bugs.
Thanks.
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Thanks for asking this around Mike. Interesting to other responses. Im happy so far from the update...
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CorteX2 is what I recommend
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Coming from a Simply Stunning Rom'd DX1 I can flat out say real world performance on that DX1 is without any question faster than this de-bloaded DX2.
Yeah, pretty disappointed but I am hoping people smarter than I will change that in the near future.
Quadrant and Linpack show impressive numbers but ADW EX, 4D app drawer with Flurry Live wallpaper running is simply not as smooth as the DX1 on 2nd init.
Its kinda sad how carriers and manufacturers screw up good hardware.
(The qHD screen and upped resolution is very welcome though)
I think it's a 100% improvement over Froyo, much more fluid !!! Some added features and the price was right !!! Who can say that they expected this present from P3 !!!
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So now that the GB ROMs seem to be in full swing.....
What are the pros and cons vs Froyo?
Well, I went from Froyo to GB and for me:
Much faster and smoother
Almost no lag, you would think it was a 1Ghz phone
WIFI and GPS locks on almost instantly and does not drop out.
3G data rate is mouch more consistent
I have been waiting patiently for the Thunderbolt, and this rom will make the wait much easier
Thanks to Workshed for an amazing rom.
There is really not a whole lot different, besides looks. The GB keyboard is better. I could really use either one in a pinch, though right now I am using GSB myself.
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There is really not a whole lot different, besides looks. The GB keyboard is better. I could really use either one in a pinch, though right now I am using GSB myself.
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That's actually not true at all, there are quite a few differences. Workshed's rom uses the latest CM7 nightly (RC1). Tazz's rom uses ADW as the default home launcher, Workshed's uses LauncherPro. Not sure of the numbers but both roms come overclocked at different numbers. Workshed's rom comes with an extra theme (Mau5KANG). There are quite a few differences but my suggestion honestly is to try them both for about 5 days each and see which one you like best ! Hope all this helps.
Its the little things;
Theme Manager has great potential, change themes on the fly
Better memory management. I no longer use autokiller.
App Management in settings, populates fast and is more user friendly. Great for killing stubborn or hung apps without the need for 3rd party app. (Older versions were slow and clunky).
Built in CPU manager clock speed and governor.
Auto bright setting controls seem much improved IMO.
More lockscreen options.
Overall responsiveness improved, providing better user experience.
Active development. More options and improvements still to come.
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That's actually not true at all, there are quite a few differences. Workshed's rom uses the latest CM7 nightly (RC1). Tazz's rom uses ADW as the default home launcher, Workshed's uses LauncherPro. Not sure of the numbers but both roms come overclocked at different numbers. Workshed's rom comes with an extra theme (Mau5KANG). There are quite a few differences but my suggestion honestly is to try them both for about 5 days each and see which one you like best ! Hope all this helps.
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He asked the pros and cons between Gingerbread and Froyo, not between the two GB ROMs - and that's what my post was answering.
Thanks for the info, any input is appreciated.
My biggest concern is speed.
I have flashed a lot of ROMs over the past year or so. I have found regardless of the ROM when my available memory drops below 50M my phone gets laggy. I started using Go Launcher about a month ago and really like it (running app tab is great). I see apps running in the background that I know I haven't used like facebook, youtube and Pandora. Autokiller does not seem to be doing a good job squashing them. I want Pandora on my phone I just only want it running when I am using it.
Conapp, Tazz, Kaos and Shed have all been great and very responsive to questions or issues with their ROMs
I think it is time to give GB a run.
GB does a great job managing memory and terminating background apps. Never get the slow Downs like I did on 2.1 or 2.2
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goedls said:
I have flashed a lot of ROMs over the past year or so. I have found regardless of the ROM when my available memory drops below 50M my phone gets laggy.
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As part of the upgrade, look into flashing xtrcache2cache, which will free up a lot of memory for data and apps - probably about 30 MB or so. If you do use it, you just have to remember to re-flash it after updating the ROM. So,
- flash GSB
- flash gapps (mandatory, even for no wipe updates)
- flash cache2cache
It's here, and works just fine with GSB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924562
Ok, one more advantage to GB, and this, to me, is a big one, is cursor placement/text selection. It's much better - I actually like it more than iOS's tap/hold/magnifying glass.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
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Ok, one more advantage to GB, and this, to me, is a big one, is cursor placement/text selection. It's much better - I actually like it more than iOS's tap/hold/magnifying glass.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
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Ah! That helps answer a concern of mine wondering how easy it will be to get used to not having a trackball when I do eventually (probably not for a year) upgrade from the Eris. I don't use the trackball a lot, but for fine adjustments to text selections, it certainly has helped.
i am finding GB to be much faster and my battery life seems to be better.
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I've been an eclipse fanboy since the first roms were posted. I'm thinking of trying the atrix port.
Has anyone tried both nitro's eclipse and navenedrob's atrix port? How do they compare in speed/battery life/etc..?
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I've been an eclipse fanboy since the first roms were posted. I'm thinking of trying the atrix port.
Has anyone tried both nitro's eclipse and navenedrob's atrix port? How do they compare in speed/battery life/etc..?
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2.3.4 is neat because we don't have it on our phones yet, but its just 2.3.3 with some slight improvements. I flashed it for like 5 minutes and went back to eclipse. I mean this in the most respectful way to naven, I am glad he is doing the ports. I just really like eclipse
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I've used ecplipse from the beginning but i recently went over to the atrix port just because its the latest version of android. I really liked eclipse because a lot of the blur elements from motorola are removed. but i also like the atrix version just because, like i said, its the latest version from google.
I'd say give both a try. just make 2 separate nandroid backups so u can swap between the 2 if u dont like one or the other.
Both have flaws
This is just my opinion but eclipse has issues with media playback, especially music. I had run the stock rooted gb from p3 and the music played fine if u played it from internal storage, and then fine from the sd card after I baught a class 10 adata card online. With eclipse though it didn't matter, the music skipped and popped like crazy no matter what I did, and I ALWAYS do clean installs with wipes of the big 3. The atrix port of stock 2.3.4 plays music perfectly, but the camera has issues with video mode and the system is laggy compared to eclipse all over. I even debloated it with tibu but it was still slower. That being said, there are some cool animation effects on the atrix port and it had the drop down toggle widgets, but the lag is killing it when u use certain apps that require performance. The bistro capture on both is horrible for some reason. Stock rooted gb from p3 had a great working video capture in 720p hd, but these two roms break it somehow. I know there were problems with navan's scripts affecting media playback so they might affect video capture too. And I'm not dissing him at all, he has done great work.... Again these are my opinions based on my experience with each rom.
I wasn't sure I wanted to leave eclipse rom to go to this ATRIX port but im not regretting it this port is nuts im having way better battery on the ATRIX rom then eclipse rom
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I am having better battery life with Atrix as well. Also my 3g speeds are faster but the signal is not as strong in every area as it was on Eclipse. Music is not skipping with Atrix but the voice commands do not work. I am running ADW on both so operating speed is the same.
I have used every version of eclipse and I've tried to switch to Atrix 3 different times but nothing beats Nitro's blurless ROM for me. It's fast and makes you realize how much blur sucks in every form.
The Atrix ROM is very good and if it weren't for blurless, I'd use it for sure.
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I have used every version of eclipse and I've tried to switch to Atrix 3 different times but nothing beats Nitro's blurless ROM for me. It's fast and makes you realize how much blur sucks in every form.
The Atrix ROM is very good and if it weren't for blurless, I'd use it for sure.
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See i like blur its not bad but the Atirx rom is a really bugged down blur it doesn't have everything like the stock 2.3.3 has which is nice
Never tried an Atrix port and never will. Obviously im not answering your question but I AM throwing my 2 cents in.
Nitro has been banging it out since the beginning. Working his ass off withing the limitations he is provided and he is giving us X2 users the best experience possible that google allows him for X2 software. Im willing to bet that if they give us 2.3.4 then Nitro will be all over it.
I also happen to like Eclipse.
But, for the above mentioned reasons.. I will use Eclipse until this phone dies of old age or meets its unexpected doom.
For me there was things I liked and things I didn't about the ATRIX rom...
Eclipse definitely runs faster and I like the blur-less-ness of it but the ATRIX rom has better battery life and allows 4 touch events at once... so far I haven't decided which one I like better but they are both really good!
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Speed on eclipse versus battery life on atrix seems to be the consensus.
flarpflinger said:
but the ATRIX rom has better battery life and allows 4 touch events at once...
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I believe I read somewhere that the number of multitouch points can be configured in a file somewhere. Thread
I like eclipse, I do not like the new atrix one, plus it does not have hdmi mirroring.
I found that the atrix one slows my phone a bit, and Eclipse rom is very fast.
I didn't like it. Too much of AT&T is implemented into the ROM. Some essential Android apps.aren't automatically put in.
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I didn't like it. Too much of AT&T is implemented into the ROM. Some essential Android apps.aren't automatically put in.
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Better than all the bloat we end up with by default. The first thing I noticed was that there was virtually no bloat. I'm really digging this atrix port with red ice cream theme. It's got great batt life and stability, and is totally blazing.
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The reason eclipse drains the battery faster is the second core never turning off it constantly runs and the cpu tweaks that are included by default.
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After flashing 0.6 eclipse and seeing how much it was like stock I decided to give ATRIX port another shot. After getting it themed red (nice work muff) and set up its pretty nice. I still like 0.5 best but I like ATRIX more than 0.6 all are great pieces of work
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The reason eclipse drains the battery faster is the second core never turning off it constantly runs and the cpu tweaks that are included by default.
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I was running on P3s stock rooted Gingerbread until 4 days ago. Honestly, I think my favorite was the stock GB debloated. I am on Eclipse now, and don't get me wrong it is awesome. It is the fastest I have tried so far, and I love the "pure" android feel to it. I also do not get music pops/skips, and I did not on the rooted GB either, must be one of the lucky ones. Now I can say this as well, my battery life has been the best on Eclipse v.05. I am on 1 day and 10 hours on a single charge. I charged my battery to full, then wiped the phone and battery stats then flashed Eclipse and am getting great results. So far, my only complaint is I cannot get the music player to show up on the lockscreen as it did with stock GB rooted and Atrix port. Not a huge deal at all, just something I noticed.
slagar said:
The reason eclipse drains the battery faster is the second core never turning off it constantly runs and the cpu tweaks that are included by default.
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not true last night i was messing around with the scripts and found out a few things.
1) the kernel doesnt care what speed you tell it to run at. it just ignores and runs between 1ghz and 216mhz
2) with out the scripts it still disables the 2nd core when it isnt used
theres a 3rd but i forget it
My second core was constantly enabled according to systempanel
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My second core was constantly enabled according to systempanel
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Im not sure what you did but I deleted all the scripts in init.d and it turned off the 2nd core by itself. Then o added them back and the same thing happened
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i have a valid question for you guys. every ice cream rom ive tried has given me significant lag/choppiness and heats up my rezound. now today i played with both a gnexus at verizon and a htc one x at at&t and it was smooth as butter. is our issues because of no ota or kernel source? just curious as to what you guys think?
thanks!
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i have a valid question for you guys. every ice cream rom ive tried has given me significant lag/choppiness and heats up my rezound. now today i played with both a gnexus at verizon and a htc one x at at&t and it was smooth as butter. is our issues because of no ota or kernel source? just curious as to what you guys think?
thanks!
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Both I would take a very educated guess in saying. no OTA means it is a work in progress and no kernel source means that the kernels aren't really tweaked out for the ROMs they are running....
my guess is sense bogs us down a good bit. also ics is coded for the gnex.
Without kernel source, we're stuck with what the leak has. From what I've read, that is not good.
I'm sticking with GB until we have source...GB flies for me!
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my guess is sense bogs us down a good bit. also ics is coded for the gnex.
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Yeah, Sense 3.5/.6 are steaming piles of laggy crap, but 4.0 seems really nice.
I have official ics on my unrooted galaxy tab 2. It has the touchwiz overlay but is still superfast. I was worried too that ICS was slow until I got this. I think the omap processor is a better performer on average than a qualcomm too, but not by much.
If you are running the gb kernel and firmware it is hit or miss with ics roms for the rezound. GB will always be faster if running gb firmware and kernel. I hope that the ics kernel is fixed when we get the official ics update and that sense doesnt bog things down. We really need htc to release kernel source and firmware in order to have a solid base for ics roms imo. I love Rez Rom Sense 3.6 ICS though, runs pretty good even on old firmware.
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I'm sticking with GB until we have source...GB flies for me!
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GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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Yeah, Sense 3.5/.6 are steaming piles of laggy crap, but 4.0 seems really nice.
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Actually for me all of the sense 4.0 ports were super laggy. I can say gb seems more fluid but the battery life still stinks on my rezound. That one x is really a nice device but im thinking this may be my last htc. I havent had good luck with the brand.
Thanks for the responses guys.
ICS doesn't lag for me ever, but I dig the Senseless roms for the looks, and indeed, Sense 4.0 isn't optimized for us yet.
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GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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when i went from a sense rom to an aosp rom on my inc2 i noticed a big difference in speed. sense definitely affects things.
ics runs great for me on 3.5/3.6 and on 4.0 its great as well... i have no problems at all
I don't get all these people who have all the battery and heating problems. I think it is user error. I have better battery and better signal since I upgraded to ICS CleanROM.
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I don't get all these people who have all the battery and heating problems. I think it is user error. I have better battery and better signal since I upgraded to ICS CleanROM.
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Agreed, if there were such a range in hardware that some overheated while others were great, I'd expect that HTC's quality control was so bad that half the units that were produced wouldn't even power up. Always get a kick out reading about someone who has warrantied a couple of phones then in the next breath says "I'm running "xyz" kernel and OC'd...
Anyway, would you mind sharing your setup Gray? It might help others to know what a working ICS setup is. What Kernel, Radios and other specifics are you running.
What I find is interesting is that with my first rezound I had a horrible experience when I flashed the ICS leak. Extreme overheating, even worse battery life, but it was nothing that I could have done. It was the radios on some hardware that cause this issue. I sent it back, got another, and reran the leak. Haven't looked back since. It's also worth noting that I have a way better experience with ICS then I did with GB. GB scrolling was always choppy and just overall sluggish. ICS fixed all that along with giving me a battery life ranging from 11-17 hours depending on usage.
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What I find is interesting is that with my first rezound I had a horrible experience when I flashed the ICS leak. Extreme overheating, even worse battery life, but it was nothing that I could have done. It was the radios on some hardware that cause this issue. I sent it back, got another, and reran the leak. Haven't looked back since. It's also worth noting that I have a way better experience with ICS then I did with GB. GB scrolling was always choppy and just overall sluggish. ICS fixed all that along with giving me a battery life ranging from 11-17 hours depending on usage.
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I also have a better user experience, as in runs faster, smoother, and less lag along with better battery life on ice cream sandwich than I did on gingerbread. I think a lot of it has to do with how it's set up and configured. And I understand that some people have genuine hardware problems but it seems that it's causing a lot of people to quickly attribute their issues to hardware and not spend the time to chase down the problem and solve it. Regardless another leaked kernel or an official OTA base will definitely be welcomed and help this beast run even better.
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Agreed, if there were such a range in hardware that some overheated while others were great, I'd expect that HTC's quality control was so bad that half the units that were produced wouldn't even power up. Always get a kick out reading about someone who has warrantied a couple of phones then in the next breath says "I'm running "xyz" kernel and OC'd...
Anyway, would you mind sharing your setup Gray? It might help others to know what a working ICS setup is. What Kernel, Radios and other specifics are you running.
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CleanROM Developer 1.2, overclocked 1.8ghz kernel, AmonRa recovery, new ICS radio, juopuntbear boot, S-Off.
Extremely smooth and no problems at all.
Ill put it in my sig too.
jmorton10 said:
GB flies for me too, even running a sense ROM.
I always chuckle when people post how "slow and laggy" sense is.
I get absolutely zero lag running sense 3.5 and figure those posters are probably clueless on how to correctly set up their system.......
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I don't get any "lag" persay with any Rom I've used. What drives me a little nuts is the stuttery and choppy scrolling in a LOT of apps I use daily. The text and the pictures chop, even though the scrolling motion is smooth. Facebook, zynga apps, internet (if its more than text) messaging app, contacts, reddit news... There are some that don't stutter though. Twicca, tapatalk, menu scrolling, root explorer...
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I don't get any "lag" persay with any Rom I've used. What drives me a little nuts is the stuttery and choppy scrolling in a LOT of apps I use daily. The text and the pictures chop, even though the scrolling motion is smooth. Facebook, zynga apps, internet (if its more than text) messaging app, contacts, reddit news... There are some that don't stutter though. Twicca, tapatalk, menu scrolling, root explorer...
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That annoyed me about GB (stock and CleanROM 1.7.5). Even on ICS, Facebook scrolling is choppy, unless you enable Force GPU rendering. Running ICS with Force GPU rendering is an incredibly smooth experience, and I haven't run into any bugs. I'm surprised it's not enabled by default in all ROMs.
I think that people having a better experience on a hacked(nicely mind you), sense 4.0 rom must have set up Gingerbread wrong. See how easy it is to make a statement like that. I have experienced both ics, and gb, and have always had a smoother experience on gb. I hated how ics scrolling in the browser, xda app, tapatalk, and others was jittery at best. I love some of the elements of ics, but the trade off was too much for me. My phone ran about 11 degrees different between ics, and gb. Also, if you go back to around Christmas, overheating was an issue then. On stock. So apparently, this phone can have heat issues. Don't get me wrong, I love this phone, and I appreciate all the work that goes into making roms. I have been following these developers for quite a while. They are all really good. We are blessed to have them.
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That annoyed me about GB (stock and CleanROM 1.7.5). Even on ICS, Facebook scrolling is choppy, unless you enable Force GPU rendering. Running ICS with Force GPU rendering is an incredibly smooth experience, and I haven't run into any bugs. I'm surprised it's not enabled by default in all ROMs.
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So it is the GPU that's the problem as I thought.... But thankfully it isnt because its not good enough. Lol. It's just because its more limited c
So it's been roughly a week since the ICS leak hit. What are your impressions?
I didn't think a tweaked GB 2.3.4 rom was too bad, at least not to the point where I constantly pined over ICS. GB was satisfactory to say the least.
ICS has been pretty impressive imo. Battery life has definitely improved and things feel a bit more peppier. Then again it could all be placebo effect. I mainly preferred a sense base rom for the camera and I'm pretty happy i can have the best of both worlds.
Overall if my level of satisfaction with the 2.3.4 roms was a 7/10 i would rate my satisfaction a 9/10 with ICS.
What do you guys think so far?
So far so good, i would rate it 9.5/10.
I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
Very stable here.
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I am personally much happier with ICS then GB. I like the look and feel I just wish i had the same service (coverage) as GB. I now get HORRIBLE reception. Hopefully there will be an update for my completely stock Amaze.
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I'm having the same experience.
the only thing i really dislike about ics is the lack of apps optimized for ics (no fault of ics of course)
my reception doesn't feel changed at all.
I guess its because where i am its either 1. very strong or 2. weak to the point where there is no signal.
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
I like ARHD. I'm getting fast data speeds and good reception. The battery life isn't all that great. I already reconditioned it 3 times, and did a battery stats wipe. Unplugged it at 12 am, and checked it at 6am. It was already at 86 percent. If it was my glacier, it would be at 95 or more. I also used better battery stats app, and disabled any rouge apps. Juice defender running disabling all data, and system tuner sets the governor to powersave while the screen is off.
For some reason, I can't get the radio settings to stick. It always goes back to gsm whenever I tried to set it to gsm/wcdma prl or anything else.
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stevedebi said:
I am using NRG ICS, but I was on stock for a day. I really like it, and the battery is twice as good.
My favorite feature is that one can combine icons on the desktop to create "folders" with multiple programs. I keep all my browsers in the space needed by only one icon. Very cool.
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Stock GB sense has folders as well.
oryan_dunn said:
Stock GB sense has folders as well.
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Huh, I guess I never happened to combine them! I'm using GB on my tablet, but I don't prefer GB there.
OK, back to just the battery I guess!
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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Yeah, I just stumbled on them in GB as well. I think it's a sense feature rather than a GB feature. I think I remember watching a video showing folders on whatever version of IOS first had them and thought that'd be cool, and one day saw I could do it on my phone. I threw all my games into a games folder.
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I split my games into categories (RPG, board, etc). Very useful.
My reception has gotten slightly better, stock ICS with Apex launcher is much smoother than any GB ROM I've tried, and even though I'm not a fan of HTC Sense's overhead, I'm still pretty happy with it
I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Is that launcher on the Goggle Market? I may give it a try.
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I like the leak. I've been running stock rooted and debloated with apex launcher and its WAY better than 3.0. Especially with Apex.
ICS is MUCH snappier (no placebo). It has everything I liked from 3.5 with improvements in performance.
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Stock rooted? I thought u would be running speedrom or something
But I do enjoy ics very much. Everything is smoother and more fluid. I LOVE IT!
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1. MUCH improved battery life.
2. Snappier response.
3. 150MB less memory usage on average. I've changed nothing about my usage habits. This probably contributes quite a bit to the snappier performance.
I'm not sure if reception is better, haven't really been paying attention. Overall I'm impressed. I like the return to the icon bar instead of that stupid giant PHONE button with two other useless things on it. I am noticing a little bit of stutter on cpu intensive apps; wonder if that's just tweaking/optimization that will be taken care of in the release.
I think my phone reception is a little bit better with the new radio, but my wifi reception has gone crazy with the new radio. Sometimes I'll have full bars sitting in one spot, and 0 wifi bars a minute later in the same spot. I do like ICS a lot more than GB though.
Perhaps those are some of the issues the T-Mobile team wants HTC to fix before the actual release.
Truly is ICS better than Gingerbread in real life [on the EVO 3D]? I find myself flashing multiple ICS roms hoping to gain the smoothness of GB but I just can't find it.
I know the features ICS brings are great:
- Chrome support
- Better sleep management
- Better system/data management (cant confirm this)
- 32 bit color by default (cant confirm this)
** http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
But one thing GB has that ICS doesn't is complete capability with our phones. We were able to make GB fly and I feel since Sprint is dragging their feet to release the update, we will have some time before ICS flies like GB. By then Jelly Bean will be running. It's a vicious cycle.
I am all for trying out new software, I love being on the bleeding edge of technology. However, for example, when playing Max Payne on ICS, the joystick would stop responding or the framerate will drop dramatically. That never happened on GB.
So my question is, whats your reason for running ICS on your EVO 3D? It is because its the latest and greatest or is there a certain feature I am missing? Because I am starting not to see a benefit.
**Disclamer: I read a couple of threads related to this but this subject was never expanded on. Mods feel free to close if you think this is redundant.**
I run it because I'm yet to have 1 problem that's not a known ics general issue.
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For cdma phones yes, the 2.17 base was an excelent base for GB roms. Us poor GSM users had a crap base which when even overclocked was probably still slower than the current ICS.. for example low 2000 quadrants and 24fps nenamark
I just wish there was a way to use the 2.17 base roms on GSM, I would certainly use it. :good:
ICS runs fine on my phone. And I'm easily getting at least 24 hours per battery, as opposed to 12 hours with GB.
ICS definitely has better battery management. However, for me personally, I don't mind having less battery with more performance since I have multiple batteries I can just swap out. A perfect balance is what I look to achieve. ICS beats GB in terms of battery life but I have to give the best performance title to GB.
Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Wait until HTC release the kernel sources and we get custom overclocked kernels, will speed it up a little
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Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
edufur said:
Considering they haven't yet, what makes you think they will?
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There hasn't been an official ICS release? (For CDMA at least). Generally its been a 90 day or so time frame for source release. We should see GSM source in the next couple of months. While HTC isn't the fastest at releasing they haven't ever failed to release source that I'm aware of.
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Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
js593 said:
Disagree with this post 100%.
Even though im running a GSM version, i can tell you right now that the phone is 100% different then the GB version. Its faster, smoother, and runs far more efficient. (ive only got 200 mb used of ram, when my GB version was running around 400-450, and i still have to remove junk from my ICS version once i root it.)
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Again this is for the GSM version, it may not be true for CDMA phones as i doubt you have one to compare...
I myself believe the fact that their phones run worse on ICS then ours because the same thing was happening to us on GB...
I think for me gb gave me problems with youtube....always skipping in the middle. But going to ics has fixed that. Everything is smoother. Battery life to me isn't much of a problem since I have about two extra batteries.
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ICS runs way better than GB did. side by side comparisons of Eternity 1.4.2 vs inbREDed 5.2 verify that for me in an instant.
apps load faster, menus react quicker, etc. I'll never go back to GB and can't wait for an Anthrax kernel for this.
I do wish that the Sense 4 ROM's had 3D and 4G though, because those things run really, really nice.. *sigh*
Interesting feedback, thank you everyone. This is definitely "food for thought".
Whats your feedback on game performance? I usually find myself playing one of the Rockstar or Gameloft games I have purchased and I feel ICS framerates drops much more than GBs.
I feel that since GB's kernel source has been released, devs were able to tweak it for maximum performance under heavy load vs a stock kernel which would be somewhat conservative on performance.
And yes I do have a CDMA version but input from GSM users are welcomed.
Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Hate to be the one to say it but the second our devices are graced with JB performance and battery life will not just reach the best balance yet, but take both to new levels.
Were in developmental limbo right now, and shortly enough new JB roms will start pumping out, keeping users happy for quite a while
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
I really wish we had a stable build of CM7 for CDMA to play with, htc holding the source on ICS kernels has made the ICS dev basically come to a crawl and it saddens me lol... My old Evo4G had a new ROM out everyday it seemed and IMO CM9 was more stable there than on the 3D. Nothing against the wonderful devs here as it's not their fault htc is being stingy with source.
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Not everyone will jump on JB. I know I won't. I have good 4G coverage and want to keep that, especially since my speeds have been going up. and I want to keep 3D. So if those aren't present I'm staying on ICS
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Many who use cm9 will lol
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Do not compair roms just on benchmarks... ICS is waaaayy better than gb even without overclocking. Solo many more features in ICS made it impossible for me to go back to GB
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I don't actually have an evo, but I've been using an HTC hd2 for a long time, until yesterday.
I was running the latest ics version mostly just to be on the bleeding edge of technology. Their were a few things I really liked more and reasons I wanted to run it because of, but mostly i wanted ics because it was new.
We also had gingerbread roms that were blazing fast and worked almost perfectly. In all honesty they were amazing.
Then ics came along. Many of the drivers were not there for our device and the devs start working like crazy to fix them or write them, just whatever needed to be done.
However even to this day ics does not run as well as gb did. It is very stable, not a lot of fc's but it still has some. In reality its just not yet the same quality gb was.
I think that until HTC releases the kernal source like for the evo and other phones that ics will not run as good as gb. In no way is this in offense to the devs. I just know that its hard to match a companies time and man power when your doing something for free.
In short, unless their is a lot of official support I do not think ics runs as well as gb either.
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