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How did the thunderbolt get cyanogen,aosp and miui if HTC never released RIL? Who worked on it and how did they get it up and running?
and again, I know for a fact that the thunderbolt got MIUI (unofficially running), how did they do it and who worked on it (I know the developers but I never understood how and who got the RIL working)?
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/2148-rom...vicious-updated-11-9-2011-fixes-again-1033pm/
There is so much drama surrounding all of this and every time i think i will ask questions, i feel like ppl will come out of my screen and eat my head.
I know droid vicious had miui going, how was it done ?
and also how did all these ppl get s-off for the tbolt ? and why is it such an unachievable goal surrounded my loads of mystery beta testers that have sworn eternity of silence when it comes to our beautiful rezound
SO plz forgive my ignorance if I indirectly insulted someone's mother somehow.
First of all. This information is available to you...if you use the search button.
Slayher did RIL on CM7
I forget who got MIUI going
As for miui on the rezound? That dev you link too is well known for starting something, saying he has it, and dissapearing.
What I don't think you understand, is how hard it is to figuire out RIL for a phone. If memory serves me right slayher took a few months before he had it working. Even then it never worked perfect.
Wanna know why people get pissy? People like YOU who keep asking why RIL isn't done yet, and act like it is as easy as pushing a button frustrate people working on it.
We have an amazing set of devs on this phone, and possibly many more coming if s-off gets released. You will get your CM9 just be patient and respectful.
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nosympathy said:
First of all. This information is available to you...if you use the search button.
Slayher did RIL on CM7
I forget who got MIUI going
As for miui on the rezound? That dev you link too is well known for starting something, saying he has it, and dissapearing.
What I don't think you understand, is how hard it is to figuire out RIL for a phone. If memory serves me right slayher took a few months before he had it working. Even then it never worked perfect.
Wanna know why people get pissy? People like YOU who keep asking why RIL isn't done yet, and act like it is as easy as pushing a button frustrate people working on it.
We have an amazing set of devs on this phone, and possibly many more coming if s-off gets released. You will get your CM9 just be patient and respectful.
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To the OP,
I'm no "mystery" beta tester for s-off. I documented and gave proof of what's to come. I will not speak publicly in forums about the method purely out of a thing called respect.
andybones said:
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To the OP,
I'm no "mystery" beta tester for s-off. I documented and gave proof of what's to come. I will not speak publicly in forums about the method purely out of a thing called respect.
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thanks for answering that Andy, I knew there was something I forgot to say haha.
It isn't that they are hiding in secrecy, to back andy up, it is that the guys who figured out s-off are testing 5-7 different devices. I say 5-7 because I read that they may have 7 devices it works on. Anyway, these devs have asked the beta testers to remain secretive on it, until it is released, and it won't be released until all devices are confirmed working. Personally since the same method works on all of them, I think this is a responsible thing todo. If they released it for say the sensation only, and we found it worked on the rezound, but was really risky and bricked phones, how much of a royal mess would they create.
I don't know about you, but if say AndyBones were to say something concerning the s-off method that he isn't supposed to and then we never got the s-off method for him breaking the s-off groups rules, are you not going to be really mad at him? I am as curious as the next guy to how they achieved s-off, but I want to actually get s-off so I am willing to wait. From what I can tell we can't be more than a few weeks away from s-off.
exactly what I expected
Dont understand the reason for the hostility. You guys make XDA such a friendly place.
I went over what I read again and again, and I did not complain once, either did I bash any developers or undermine their work.
My question simply stated was, did i manage to buy the most complicated phone to develop for in the market?
I compared it to the tbolt bec:
1- I owned it
2- they are both HTC LTE phones.
I didnt understand the mystery of the s-off thing, so i wanted some explanation. Thank you for taking the time out to explain it and crucify me in the process.
I do tons of research before asking someone to help me unlock or root or whatever. But from a user point of view, i wanted a developer , or an experienced user to shed some light on the complexity of the situation. there is very little information on how much more sophisticated the rezound is than the tbolt and why what worked flawlessly for the tbolt does not work for the rezound.
I still do not know what warranted such hostility.... but thx for taking the time out to respond anyway.
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Dont understand the reason for the hostility. You guys make XDA such a friendly place.
I went over what I read again and again, and I did not complain once, either did I bash any developers or undermine their work.
My question simply stated was, did i manage to buy the most complicated phone to develop for in the market?
I compared it to the tbolt bec:
1- I owned it
2- they are both HTC LTE phones.
I didnt understand the mystery of the s-off thing, so i wanted some explanation. Thank you for taking the time out to explain it and crucify me in the process.
I do tons of research before asking someone to help me unlock or root or whatever. But from a user point of view, i wanted a developer , or an experienced user to shed some light on the complexity of the situation. there is very little information on how much more sophisticated the rezound is than the tbolt and why what worked flawlessly for the tbolt does not work for the rezound.
I still do not know what warranted such hostility.... but thx for taking the time out to respond anyway.
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so, in your research, did you happen to look into the fact that the Rezound is kind of a first of its kind with the radios it has?
second, the Tbolt was s-off with what a month or so of being out? maybe two months? and was still months and months and months later until we had cyanogenmod.
In this community we had no s-off then finally got Dev Unlock, which our excellent devs had to learn how to code around. It was new to everyone to not have full access to the phone. Also, as stated, there were a few amazing devs that helped with the Tbolt getting both S-off and with RIL, that we do not have on the rezound.
Third, no one is working on CM7 because why would they when we are so close to have a ICS OTA that will give us kernel source to ICS kernels. My understanding is that we need this source to really get CM9.
I personally have been with Verizon since day 1 of the thunderbolt coming out, and been with the rezound about a month and a half after it came out. I think the biggest problem in this forum, that we didn't have with the thunderbolt, is that people are coming from other carriers or devices where they had s-off from day one, and maybe some form of cm7 from day one, because they didn't start day one with that phone.
Those of us that started day 1 with the thunderbolt, understood it was a brand new phone, brand new type of phone, and a first of its kind. LTE was new on any phone. The people on the thunderbolt forums at the time were very patient, you never saw complaining because s-off wasn't out yet, you never saw complaining that CM7 wasn't out yet. People were patient, because they understood that writing for this phone was new to everybody!
Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice! I appreciate it so much!
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
Sent from my ice cream powered Evo Lte!
the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
kaos420 said:
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
Sent from my ice cream powered Evo Lte!
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There are already thousands of threads in this forum alone. Best place to start is the stickies in each section.
People in these forums don't usually take kindly to people wanting info, that has already been answered many times before, spoon fed to them.
Do some research and if you have specific questions about a process or feature that you can't find elsewhere, then ask.
One part of your question that I will answer, is that we do have a great, easy S-Off method and also a mod that allows you to make your bootloader appear stock, meaning it can say ***LOCKED*** and S-ON, even without those being true. With this method you don't need to use htcDev to unlock it.
Hope this helps. Happy researching.
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the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
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Even that's opinion. I by far and away prefer the htc screen. It's more clear/sharp and doesn't use crayola neon colors.
OP I would also suggest browsing forum for the phones in question. As far as dev support goes, you're likely gonna have to separate each carrier version as well as us/international version of the s3.
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Haha yeah, the screen is the one place that the EVO DEFINITELY beats the S3. Most of the rest is personal preference.
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No, my questions couldn't and weren't answered by searching the forums. Rather than what IS NOW, I was wanting opinions on what you felt each phone would draw... In terms of devs and work for that phone. Now, if each phone had been released for 8+ months, that would be an entirely different story. But let's face it, the Evo LTE has been out for just a month and I'm still getting told by corporate stores (other than Vzw) that the release date was pushed back again until tomorrow. What I was hoping for was some educated prognostications as to how you felt that the dev communities would grow and take on their own "personalities". If you see the potential for growth larger on the Evo LTE vs S3, or vice-versa, etc. These are questions that require a working knowledge of a dev community and how they develop and what draws devs to any given phone.
As far as the bootloader on the Lte goes, there is currently a method to unlock and s-off without htcdev. There is also a method to take it back to completely stock s-on and "locked" not relocked. You must have s-off to accomplish it though. HTC will never know. Just look at the stickies under the development section and you can find what you need.
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Great info... Thanks for letting me know about both the capabilities to look like rooting hasn't taken place AND that Sprint will work on rooted phones. That's a huge big deal compared to Vzw.
So I had my iPhone 4S (Jailbroken of course) for about a year and i got bored with it. Once my upgrade came I decided to give Android a try.
I need to know everrrrrryyyy thing about the Android. (not literally)
I think im rooted already, here are some screen shots to see what I am working with. (Got the phone 2 days ago)
I also am not sure if I am flashing the ROM's correctly, in my about it says i have Stock with Goodies ROM (downloaded here) but some of the features are missing, like landscape rosie and the power down options for recovery.
I also have no freaking clue what S-OFF and S-ON is so could someone explain that to me,
And
I also see alot of mods being implmented by txt editors codes n such, replacement of codes. Can I get a brief on that as well?
I really need gudiance, I did everything on my own and im not sure if I did any of it correctly. Ive been reading that MeanROM ICS is popular I had it but I switched to stock goodies.
My task list is as follows,
Install Stock ROM,
LazyPanda S-OFF,
ROOT,
Remove Tampered,
Install MeanROM ICS
How Do I acomplish this ^ in the correct order, from where im standing in my screenshots but note in the bootloader screenshot mine is UNLOCKED not locked
Here is a good introductory tutorial on the evo lte and android in general (thank om4):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869377
It looks like your bootloader was unlocked at one point and then relocked. The good news is you have the right hboot version for s-off (1.12) so you should do that first. You'll need to do it with a ROM that's a 1.12 or 1.13 base though (not sure what base stock w/ goodies 2.16 is), so if that's not what you're currently running you'll need to unlock the bootloader first and flash one (like Fresh 5.1.1). S-off will give you full access to the phone's internal memory and allow you to flash anything, whereas only unlocking the bootloader and remaining s-on has some limitations. Read the first couple of posts in this thread to learn how:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737123
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Boatiy said:
So I had my iPhone 4S (Jailbroken of course) for about a year and i got bored with it. Once my upgrade came I decided to give Android a try.
I need to know everrrrrryyyy thing about the Android. (not literally)
I think im rooted already, here are some screen shots to see what I am working with. (Got the phone 2 days ago)
I also am not sure if I am flashing the ROM's correctly, in my about it says i have Stock with Goodies ROM (downloaded here) but some of the features are missing, like landscape rosie and the power down options for recovery.
I also have no freaking clue what S-OFF and S-ON is so could someone explain that to me,
And
I also see alot of mods being implmented by txt editors codes n such, replacement of codes. Can I get a brief on that as well?
I really need gudiance, I did everything on my own and im not sure if I did any of it correctly. Ive been reading that MeanROM ICS is popular I had it but I switched to stock goodies.
My task list is as follows,
Install Stock ROM,
LazyPanda S-OFF,
ROOT,
Remove Tampered,
Install MeanROM ICS
How Do I acomplish this ^ in the correct order, from where im standing in my screenshots?
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what ever u do do NOT accept any updates OTA's from sprint!! u are good..u have hboot 1.12 thats a good thing! :good: where did u get the phone?? brand new?? hey check your pm.. i love seeing people come to android!! so much better than a boring iphone
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evo401 said:
what ever u do do NOT accept any updates OTA's from sprint!! u are good..u have hboot 1.12 thats a good thing! :good: where did u get the phone?? brand new?? hey check your pm.. i love seeing people come to android!! so much better than a boring iphone
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Thanks for all the help on google talk,
got my phone running perfect I think so far.
Boatiy said:
Thanks for all the help on google talk,
got my phone running perfect I think so far.
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no doubt! u should be good.. got u to flash fresh 5.1.1.. ran lazy panda s-off.. then flashed the bootloader custimizer.. then flashed newest radio and firmwear zip in bootloader.. backed up current rom.. then flashed mean rom 5.5!!! golden!!! :good: told u i gots u bro! love seein people come over to android.. android is where its at manG! got any problems just holla at me
Welcome to Androidland my friend...enjoy!
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Good choice for your move to android! Welcome to the land of freedom.
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Welcome to Androidland my friend...enjoy!
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Cavagan said:
Good choice for your move to android! Welcome to the land of freedom.
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Im upset to admit that ive been brainwashed by apple, and the Jail breaking community
At least you are honest about it. It is pretty sad to me, the love affair America has with Apple.
mobius1484 said:
At least you are honest about it. It is pretty sad to me, the love affair America has with Apple.
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I agree. I went as far as starting a new line on my account and letting my roommate get a GS3 with it. He was such an IPhone lover to the max.
I rooted his Sammy (technically mine) and showed him how to flash ROMs, nandroid (backup up ROMs, for Op) and install themes, put apps in system, ect, and everything else you can do with an android. He loves that he made the switch and can't believe how much he was missing. He sends me new threads and gets so excited to show me his latest mods, ROMs, tweaks, ect.
Welcome to the world of android my friend. Love when I see someone who actually had an open mind and decided to try android. There's so much your gonna love and so much you can do with android.
You came to the right place with your questions and it looks like your questions have been answered already. You'll find we are a very close knit supportive community and just about anyone will help you with anything.
My biggest advice would be to read read read. That's what I did when I first started rooting phones years ago. (Cm7 on my cliq xt was my first modded phone ) and lastly before you post questions in development threads, do a quick search. Most questions are usually already answered and solutions are provided
Welcome to the community!! You can personally pm me with anything you need help with. Would be glad to help
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Yeaaa
Ladicx said:
I agree. I went as far as starting a new line on my account and letting my roommate get a GS3 with it. He was such an IPhone lover to the max.
I rooted his Sammy (technically mine) and showed him how to flash ROMs, nandroid (backup up ROMs, for Op) and install themes, put apps in system, ect, and everything else you can do with an android. He loves that he made the switch and can't believe how much he was missing. He sends me new threads and gets so excited to show me his latest mods, ROMs, tweaks, ect.
Welcome to the world of android my friend. Love when I see someone who actually had an open mind and decided to try android. There's so much your gonna love and so much you can do with android.
You came to the right place with your questions and it looks like your questions have been answered already. You'll find we are a very close knit supportive community and just about anyone will help you with anything.
My biggest advice would be to read read read. That's what I did when I first started rooting phones years ago. (Cm7 on my cliq xt was my first modded phone ) and lastly before you post questions in development threads, do a quick search. Most questions are usually already answered and solutions are provided
Welcome to the community!! You can personally pm me with anything you need help with. Would be glad to help
Sent from my EVO using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
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exactly,
heres the thing; for the year i had the iphone i hated on android n talked ****, without even ever using an android for more than 10 minutes. pretty redundant because you cant judge a book by its cover.
thinking that over i said hmm lets give android a try, so far im not disappointed.
Welcome to android world boaty.. :thumbup:
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Another defector! Welcome aboard.
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I can't stand Apple, not only their stuff, but the Corporate bully that is Apple, only 500 billion in the bank for a rainy day, must be nice.
Android rules, but the best part of it is the support you find here. If you would like some color on your phone, I have 3 themes on evo 4g lte forum under the themes/apps section, I bet you can't do that with a rotton apple lol
Whatever happened to all the development and devs making all the great ROMS for our Amaze? I see so many lesser phones and older ones at that with quicker and more frequent ROM updates but in the last two months the Amaze development has seemed to stop with a grinding halt. Any particular reason why? We had some great progress in the last few months, but the two major roms I've been following religiously both haven't been updated in months (Team Knightmare's Sense 4.0 has been on version 1.6 since October - it's almost perfect too, that's what makes this sad!!!).
Lots of development going on. Maybe stop trolling and do some reading on your part.
HTC RUBY - Energized ICS Faux123 kernel
No trolling sorry?
I don't know what "trolling" means but I don't mean to offend - I literally scour this forum everyday, I just haven't seen anything posted in a while that's all.
marathone said:
Lots of development going on. Maybe stop trolling and do some reading on your part.
HTC RUBY - Energized ICS Faux123 kernel
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More ROMS doesn't mean more development..and Less ROMS doesn't mean less development. You have to stay within the inner circle to know what's going on. And to do that you just gotta read.
Thanks for your courteous reply! I actually read through this forum all the time, maybe I'm missing something! I may be a "new" as far as registration dates go but I have been an XDA junkie for quite some time, dating back to my Moto Back flip (ewww!!).
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More ROMS doesn't mean more development..and Less ROMS doesn't mean less development. You have to stay within the inner circle to know what's going on. And to do that you just gotta read.
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Well this thread is going no where fast so I'm going to close it.
In the future please just use the report option and move on no need for the comments.
These 2 roms by team nocturnal (correct me if i'm wrong) are simply amazing. When our phone finally receives android 4.3 with possible sense 5.5, will these roms get updated to 4.3 as well? I will have this phone for over a year to come as I am just a poor teenager who stumbled upon rooting and the android developement world with an LG Optimus S, and upgraded to the Evo 4G LTE in may of 2013.
Will major developers like NIN and sinistertensei still be developing for our phone?
apologizes if this is a dumb question. Just never know when a developer will move on.
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These 2 roms by team nocturnal (correct me if i'm wrong) are simply amazing. When our phone finally receives android 4.3 with possible sense 5.5, will these roms get updated to 4.3 as well? I will have this phone for over a year to come as I am just a poor teenager who stumbled upon rooting and the android developement world with an LG Optimus S, and upgraded to the Evo 4G LTE in may of 2013.
Will major developers like NIN and sinistertensei still be developing for our phone?
apologizes if this is a dumb question. Just never know when a developer will move on.
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Well we all know amazing roms don't always come from xda. Why don't you ask them personal via Private message. We don't even have sense 5 from HTC and most people doubt we'll see it from them. (As a OTA)
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lreyes said:
Well we all know amazing roms don't always come from xda. Why don't you ask them personal via Private message. We don't even have sense 5 from HTC and most people doubt we'll see it from them. (As a OTA)
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HTC has broken their promise's before, but with the update planned to go into sprint testing in mid january, It's very likely we will see it.
You do make a good point however, I just typed this on the go earlier.
Thread closure
As previously stated by another member, there's really no point in discussing matters like this, when the ROM's are not hosted on XDA.
It's better to post your questions on the Developers own websites. Just Google them. They're pretty easy to find.
So with that said, it's better off to close this thread.
Cheers
MD