[Q] incredibly minimal ROM? - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

is there a ROM that is completed gutted of everything except the absolute essentials needed for the phone to work?
im talking like all bloatware, messaging, internet browser, htc apps, sense, live wallpaper, etc.... everything removed
is such a ROM around?

voxigenboy said:
is there a ROM that is completed gutted of everything except the absolute essentials needed for the phone to work?
im talking like all bloatware, messaging, internet browser, htc apps, sense, live wallpaper, etc.... everything removed
is such a ROM around?
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No ROM I know of lacks a browser. CM7 won't have Gtalk, market, any HTC anything... stuff like live wallpapers and the like you can find with root explorer and delete.

Omgb is the leanest ROM.

CM7, stripped everything for me, OMFGB is good too
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[ROM]Cyanogenmod 7 RC1.4
[Kernel] Drod BFS AOSP. 9

CM7 is the most stripped down rom I have used.
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You cant really strip the browser from the rom. Well, you can remove the apk, but android has a lot of the webkit framework tied into it for other applications, so the browser apk is just a small portion of the entire webkit framework that many things depend on (things such as the xda app, netflix, etc).
Anyways, the default browser on non sense roms is more usable anyways, though it's still my secondary browser most of the time, but it doesnt lag like the sense one does.

I really CAN strip the browser from the rom....Been doing it for months, never broke a thing.
I prefer to use Th3oryRom's base, then go in with titanium and delete system apps (browser, sms, email, live wallpapers, widgets, other stuff). CM7 and OMFGB work well as a clean-ish base too, but I get much better performance out of Th3ory's stuff. clear cache/dalvik, and you're good to go.

cam30era said:
Omgb is the leanest ROM.
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this is true.

greenjeans said:
I really CAN strip the browser from the rom....Been doing it for months, never broke a thing.
I prefer to use Th3oryRom's base, then go in with titanium and delete system apps (browser, sms, email, live wallpapers, widgets, other stuff). CM7 and OMFGB work well as a clean-ish base too, but I get much better performance out of Th3ory's stuff. clear cache/dalvik, and you're good to go.
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never said you couldnt remove the browser apk. I just said you cant remove the webkit libraries, which are technically larger than the apk is.

i guess i should have stated that i prefer to stay away from AOSP ROM's(just personal preference)... i've tried both CM7 & LiquidThunderbread before, but i suppose i'll give OMGB a try.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201600 is a stripped to hell GB CM7 rom, it's like 81MB. Build to suit. But that's AOSP. Th3ory has a Sense based rom too, but until it gets it's own thread it's buried somewhere in the last few pages of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186218&page=136

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[Q] Best/Easiet Root Rom for Root Newbie?

Hey I hope this isn't in the wrong place and not been asked (recently) a million times.
I have a completely stock OTA Eris
2.1 2.42.01.04.27 2.6.29-bch140a0 2.41.605.6 CL225228 2.41.605.6
I'm looking for the best/easiest/most functional rom.
I want:
apps to SD to work
all normal programs to work (gmail, gps, sms, camera, market, etc)
speedier phone?
any bonus functions (ie overclocking).
I have read a few tutorials on how and they led me here to find the roms. However, I don't know which one is newest/best for my needs.
I probably won't root until after my road trip this week. I also need to research backups, so a few days of responses are welcomed before I do anything.
Thanks
Bob
Do you have a preference for android version? 2.1 (Eclair), 2.2 (Froyo), 2.3 (Gingerbread)?
Do you want the HTC Sense UI?
Personally: I like CELB Froyo. It's Android 2.2, no Sense UI (I like the plain jane (and faster) ADW launcher/CM look). Hook it up with SetCPU and you have yourself some overclocking. Flash gapps and you have all the google apps.
The best ROM to keep you close to stock but get most of the things you want is probably xtrSense. It was the first one I used and I was really happy with it. Now I'm on GSB, an android 2.3 ROM. It's amazing but definitely a lot different from the stock phone. I would just recommend reading the front pages on multiple roms to get a feel of what they offer & what appeals to you.
Good luck & have fun!!
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Depends on what you like. If you like the stock HTC Sense UI, then Zach's xtrSENSE always gets rave reviews. It is Android 2.1
The current Cyanogenmod 7 (Android 2.3.3) is incredibly stable and fully functional. I have been using Workshed's "GSB" - GingerShedBread since first release. Shed does great work, actively updates every 5 to 10 days, and is quick with tech support in thread.
GSB is my vote for best. Easy, they're all easy just follow the OP.
What I like about CM7 and GSB:
- Android 2.3 improved memory manager.
- Theme Manager has simplified applying themes.
- Power widget in notification shade (CM6 had this feature too)
- Very responsive user experience gives new life to old hardware.
- built in CPU settings plus lots of other settings to play with.
- Actively being developed. (Although currently in a feature freeze and focusing on bugs, there have been a few minor new things snuck in)
- Its fun
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+1 xtrSENSE, just be aware that for Apps2SD under 2.1 (Eclair) like xtrSENSE, you have to partition your SD card. If you use the native Froyo or Gingerbread Apps2SD, you normally DON'T want to partition your SD card, and don't have to for their native Apps2SD capability, either.
In addition to all of the raves about xtrSENSE, I'll add that it's cache2cache feature may remove the need for apps2sd. I'd try xtrSENSE without it first, see if you have enough room, and then move to apps2sd later on if you need it.
I completly agree with amfetamine and would echo: Cyanogenmod 7 is by far my favorite (Android 2.3.3) is fully functional and excellent.
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Thanks for the responses so far.
I did look at the xtrSENSE a little after making my post.
I like the idea of keeping it nearly 2.1-ish (espeically if I were to root the wife's as well).
I don't know if I like 2.2 or 2.3 (or versions of them) because, well I don't have 2.2 or 2.3 on my phone...
Ideally, I want to loose next to no functionality and get some performance/memory boost out of the first ROM I play with.
My concern at the moment is pre-rooting backup. I tried the trial of mybackup before my first factory reset and it didn't restore any personal stuff 30 minutes after I installed it I can manually move my pictures and google-ize all my contact but there are a few sms/mms I'd like to save.
Metal_Bob said:
Thanks for the responses so far.
I did look at the xtrSENSE a little after making my post.
I like the idea of keeping it nearly 2.1-ish (espeically if I were to root the wife's as well).
I don't know if I like 2.2 or 2.3 (or versions of them) because, well I don't have 2.2 or 2.3 on my phone...
Ideally, I want to loose next to no functionality and get some performance/memory boost out of the first ROM I play with.
My concern at the moment is pre-rooting backup. I tried the trial of mybackup before my first factory reset and it didn't restore any personal stuff 30 minutes after I installed it I can manually move my pictures and google-ize all my contact but there are a few sms/mms I'd like to save.
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There are two kinds of backups in My Backup. "Applications & Media" and "Data". You have to do both separately. Backing up Photos is redundant because they should be saved to your SD card anyway, and a ROM flash won't overwrite your SD card. When doing Data, don't bother backing up Contacts or Calendar since those will be sync'd with Google already. It's up to you if you want it to back up your call log (useless for me, IMHO) and maybe some other options. "Data" is the section of backup in My backup which offers to backup SMS and MMS, as well.

[Q] AOSP Browser on Sense

I did a search on this forum, and I've seen some posts on other forums about this, but nothing I've tried so far has worked. Is it possible to get the AOSP Browser on a Sense ROM (I'm running BAMF 1.7 right now). The HTC browser is worthless, and I'm not a fan of the various market replacements (I've tried DolphinHD, Firefox, Skyfire, both Opera's, and Miren). In my opinion the AOSP broswer is near perfect. Minimal overhead, does its job and that's all. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
litso said:
I did a search on this forum, and I've seen some posts on other forums about this, but nothing I've tried so far has worked. Is it possible to get the AOSP Browser on a Sense ROM (I'm running BAMF 1.7 right now). The HTC browser is worthless, and I'm not a fan of the various market replacements (I've tried DolphinHD, Firefox, Skyfire, both Opera's, and Miren). In my opinion the AOSP broswer is near perfect. Minimal overhead, does its job and that's all. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
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no idea, but you can try to pull the .apk from any AOSP rom or from CM7 and use adb to push the file.
on a side note id love it devs enabled the about:debug option standard on all browser so i have easy access to the UAString
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no idea, but you can try to pull the .apk from any AOSP rom or from CM7 and use adb to push the file.
on a side note id love it devs enabled the about:debug option standard on all browser so i have easy access to the UAString
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Already tried that. I've pulled the browser from CM7 and from 'de-sensed' builds. I delete the old browser (actually just rename), reboot, push the new browser to /system/app, and install. Install works fine, but the browser just FC's upon load. Anyone got any ideas? I've read its difficult because of all the tweaks made to the HTC browser, but it must be possible since some de-sensed ROMs use it. I just don't know where to make edits to prevent FCs.
I use this Rom manager install from Teslacoil and it works perfect with DB 1.63. Do not try it with GB, it will fail hard!
Thanks, I am going to give it a shot now.
good i like this
Don't forget to repair permissions then reboot. Works for me. Also make sure your using something like root explorer with mount on when your switching apks in the system folder.
My bad that's if you use the apks from an older post on the forum so just ignore if your using the one posted above.

[Q] BEST of the BEST!!!

Hello,
i rooted my phone not too long ago and i love it!!!! i tried BAMF 3.0 and i didnt like it much at all, it was choppy but i got it to be smooth with changing the cpu, well as of now i am just rooted and my question is: what apps do u recommend(rooted) ? i got rom manager already ^^ and also, what is some roms outs their that u like? and why? im looking for a new ROM but dont know where to continue xD
and also, is there an app that hides all my apps on my screens? ive searched but no luck, kind of like in which on a computer we can view, or not view desktop icons
As far as apps; Titanium Backup will let you back up apps and data, RootExporer will let you access files you couldn't otherwise (be careful with both, you can delete or uninstall things you shouldn't), wifi tether will let you tether over wifi I recommend version 2.0.7 (google it), those are the biggies anyways. Check my sig for my ROM recommendation, links included. This setup has offered bulletproof stability for me and the best battery life I've seen. Of course phones and opinion vary so try a few and see what you like. As far as that last part, I have no idea.
Are you talking about temporarily hiding the widgets and icons, per permanently?
If temporarily, why not just set up a blank screen? Stock sense came with several desktops with a widget, or two. All you'd have to is remove some not by long pressing on them.
Robert
[]QUOTE=fdp55;15629866]...is there an app that hides all my apps on my screens?[/B] ive searched but no luck, kind of like in which on a computer we can view, or not view desktop icons[/QUOTE]
Ty both of u, definitely will check ur info!
And I don't want to delete them permanently, just not visible, I've searched and I can't find any at all, and yea deleting is always good, I've just always like hiding icons on my computer, and i'd like to also on my tb xD
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if you mean hiding apps in the app drawer, I think you'll need a different launcher like LauncherPro or ADW. I don't know that there's any way to hide apps in the drawer of the sense launcher
OP, Das Bamf 3.0 is a great rom, but I don't like it either!
I have tried 6 roms on the TB and finally found the right one for me, which given your description sounds like it might be perfect for you as well.
Liquid Thunderbread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160637)
This is a VERY stripped down and fast rom. Also it is AOSP instead of Sense based and is only 66 mb!
It is awesomely fast and smooth without any of the BS, I seriously cannot recommend it enough. I like it so much that I made my first rom based donation to the developer and plan on doing so again if they continue updating.
Let me know what you think if you decide to give it a shot.
Im on synergy and i love it. its speedy quick but still lets you keep a lot of the fancy stuff. also the battery is great on 4g or 3g, wifi is a little lacking. and an app you should definitively download is setcpu ( i think its free if youve signed up for xda here) itll let you overclock or set up underlcoking for when your screen is off etc.
on my older incredible, i had an ad-block app (got it from the app market). it blocked the banner ads that are in a lot of the apps.

Install some MotoBlur on CM7?

im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
ishamm said:
im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
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This is the exact reason im not using CM7, if they could bring this feature I would use it but I doubt its going to happen because blur is not open source which makes porting any or all parts of it pretty much impossible.. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong.
ishamm said:
im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
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No. There are other roms that will give you customization and Blur, though.
There are a lot of 'locate my phone' market apps
https://market.android.com/search?q=locate+phone&so=1&c=apps
One popular app with such a feature is Lookout Security & Antivirus. If you don't want the antivirus/wiping part, Where's my droid is way more simple and works nicely too.
thanks, thats a shame Blur is not opensource, i imagine if the devs here got hold of it it could be made awesome! which Roms do use it, and are comparable in performance/features to CM7, if there are any?
thanks
Aura is a great ROM. There is a Blur version which you would probably want, and also Accounts and Debloat versions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186990
ishamm said:
im running CM7 on my Atrix, which is awesome, but i do miss a few of the MotoBlur features, such as the Locate My phone/lock out security things. is there anywhere i can download parts of motoblur to install back onto CM7?
thanks
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Well, the easy part would be downloading parts of blur.
The HARD part, however, would be reintegrating all the frameworks and filelinks and etc etc etc etc into CM7 to actually have those parts work. It is so close to impossible to completely deblur a motoblur rom that it isn't worth the effort. The other direction is also true.
Your better off checking the market out for apps to see if you can replace those missing features without the hassle of trying to get MB back on first...
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which Roms do use it, and are comparable in performance/features to CM7, if there are any?
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I could be wrong - and if I am, I'm sure somebody will speak up, but in general, anything other than CM7 and other AOSP projects will be based on the motoblur framework. They may pull out apps and stuff, but the framework is there.
I think this would include things like Alien, Homebase, Aura, etc.
CM7 is built from the ground up, so it doesn't have all of the blur stuff in it.
A lot of the other ROMs have versions that are less deblurred or have separate downloads you can flash that will include some of the blur apps and functionality.
As far as performance, CM7 is the best I've run, but that makes sense because it is lightweight compared to ROMS that include all of the additional blur framework/functionality.
Of course on this phone, there really isn't any ROM I've used that seems "slow". For me it is more about preferences and features.
Home base is a good rom too, with bur and deblured versions.
If you can install blur, you drops all good things from cm7 ;-)
Enviado desde mi MB860 usando CM7
It comes down to two different types of roms aosp cm7 and miui (hopefully one day) or customized themed stock roms alien aura just try them and land on one you like
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http://seekdroid.com/ is by far the best phone-locate app for $.99. (EDIT: used to be $.99... guess it's $4.99 now)

[Q] What is the Best Android 4 or upper ROM for Legend?

I'm running B 0.8.4 Rom by BlaY0 on my HTC Legend for so long.
It is a very good Rom with no problem at all.
I want to change it to Android 4 ! but there are plenty of them here, each of them has some issues,
Could you please introduce the best STABLE Rom which its Android version is 4 or upper for HTC Legend?
Thank you in advance
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
What you probably should look at is, what base do those "other roms" use, I think you will find more often than not they are based on zeubea's roms anyway, with some tweaks here and there. The op really should tell you in the thread so just have a read...
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What applications can I remove without having any problems? the gps does not work. do you know help me?
thanks
leekohlbradley said:
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
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GPS problems:
You need to edit /system/etc/gps.conf
Use a root explorer like Root Browser to go to that file, and open with RB text editor. Or better yet, copy it to your computer and edit it there.
Change the file so it contains the information found here http://www.modaco.com/topic/331446-mod-all-roms-gps-fix/
Remove the # from the NTP_SERVER closest to where you live. If you want to add more servers you can look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200089
Removing apps:
If you have Link2SD (and you should!!!) you can try freezing stuff for a few days and then if nothing goes wrong, delete it.
As for what to delete, certainly the stock mail program, the CM file browser (USELESS), music app... I sorted by size and deleted anything that didn't sound useful / critical. I also deleted the AOSP keyboard. It's good but doesn't have Chinese which is a must for me. I just installed another keyboard from Play. If you delete those few things your system space will free up a bit and be more than enough to give it some breathing room. I'm not sure you need more than 20-30 MB free (or any free at all, I'm kinda talking out my ass a bit haha). But it seems to stand to reason that system apps need room to store data, cache, etc., and if they don't things will get choked up real quick.
What does matter is freezing useless apps and utilities that load automatically and sit in RAM. Legend RAM is very limited and while it's true that unused RAM is wasted RAM and that task killers are worse than useless, having stuff load automatically and keep themselves in RAM is just taking up space for useful apps that will use that RAM, without question.
That said anyone with a better understanding is more than welcome to jump in!
Don't talk to me about gps my threads on the topic are enough. Basically gps either works or it doesn't, if it doesn't your out of luck my friend!
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