Hi,
I actually picked the S2 over the Sensation because of the slightly higher specs and the fact that phone has 16gb internal memory. Being new to android (switch from iPhone) I really don't get what device memory is and why it's filling up so fast. I have barely installed 5 tiny apps and already 140Mb out of the 1.97Gb has already been used. I installed loads of apps on my iPhone and I intend to do that same on my new one so could someone please explain this concept of device memory and what exactly is stored in there. Also, if I run out of device memory, how do I free it up or increase the 1.97Gb limit?
2GB /data rest as internal sd card, system partition, cache, etc.
You can move apps to sd card if the data partition is full.
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Relax, there's plenty of space. I've more than 80 apps installed, and they uses 664MB, so around 240 apps before memory is filled up... Remember that large games like Gameloft games installs their main data on the 12GB partition. And there is also a possibility to move most of the apps to that area as well, but it is unlikely that you need that.
The 140MB used on your phone probably includes some pre-installed apps.
Phew! That's big relief... Thanks so much. Just one last small doubt, I realized that only some apps are allow to be moved to the SD card while others like facebook have the this option greyed out. Why is this exactly?
some apps have the ability to be moved to sd card while others dont due to the way they are built..
can use device internal memory to store app data?
guys is it possible to use the device internal memory (1.9gb) to store app data in absence of internal and external SD card? my camera/apps don't run in absence of the SD card any way to get around this by using the the device internal memory? ( i have 1.5gb free after installation of all the necessarily apps)
galaxy s2 have 2gb space for only apps.....if the apps occupied total 2gb memory of that space...then where the other apps can be installed......???
is there any method for removing that apps installation limit guys.....??????
That's what the sd card is for. Bigger applications/games utilize the sd card to store their files.
Freakgs said:
That's what the sd card is for. Bigger applications/games utilize the sd card to store their files.
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no bro........whats my question is breaking the certain limit of apps installation..........because many apps not supporting apps2sd that i hav installed....some apps can be moved to sd they are moving to external sd card instead of internal memory....
so i am getting huge bootloops when sd card inserted...if i removed it phone is normal....
Use titanium backup if your rooted and long press on any app that's not apps2sd by default then you should be able to move them to your SD card
Not sure if I've ever heard of anyone using up all the 2gb with apps. I have about 150 user apps and still have over 1gb left.
That's because app data for large apps is stored on the SD card, for example with gameloft games which on their own can be over 2gb (like 9mm). Only a few MB (the actual app) goes against the 2gb partition.
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sxi200 said:
Not sure if I've ever heard of anyone using up all the 2gb with apps. I have about 150 user apps and still have over 1gb left.
That's because app data for large apps is stored on the SD card, for example with gameloft games which on their own can be over 2gb (like 9mm). Only a few MB (the actual app) goes against the 2gb partition.
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I have installed also about 150 apps and have used 1.4/2 GB for apps and my sd card is 5.6/11.5 GB. I'm wondering if buying a removable micro sd card will it increase my app storage limit to above 2GB?
SGS-II said:
I have installed also about 150 apps and have used 1.4/2 GB for apps and my sd card is 5.6/11.5 GB. I'm wondering if buying a removable micro sd card will it increase my app storage limit to above 2GB?
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Nah it wont. The 2gb for apps is part of the internal memory and is set. You can however move apps to SD with titanium and others. I pretty much ran out of internal SD (the 11.5gb part) due to gameloft game data. But then I installed 'gl to sd' from the market. It allows you to move game data files to external sd card. 9mm itself frees up 2.2gb from the internal sd.
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Can it affect an app or game's performance if you move it to be on the SD Card instead of keeping it on your phone?
I would say yes but not sure because your internal memory is faster than an sd card storage. Atleast usually. You can buy sd cards that are rated faster than what you would normally get with your phone. Similar to this you can adjust your sd card cache.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...-200-with-a-simple-tweak-hands-on-benchmarks/
Not sure about games as I don't play many games on my phone. However if you're using an app with a widget you should not move it to the SD card.
it depens on your sd card class. I installed about 97 apps+games on both internal and external memory, there's still plenty of room left on my internal memory. I have a class 10 sdcard, and apps are load pretty fast. if you want to move your apps/games anyway, I suggest you to use link2sd as it can "force" move your apps into your sdcard (Titanium backup does the same too).
I have used both Link2sd and App 2 sd and i can't move apps to the external sd card. Both of these programs recognize as an sd card the 8gb internal memory of the phone. Is there any way i can fix this??
ps: My phone is rooted.
The app 'gl to sd' should fix games to ur sd problem
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Gl To sd worked fine but only for the games.. I would also like To move some navigation apps but i' ll have To find something else.. Thanks a lot for helping me!
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When I connect the phone to my PC and use Media Sync it says phone and card. I am not used to this with the OG Evo everything was on my sd card. Can someone explain what is the difference between the phone and card? Why are some of the apps data being stored on the phone rather than the card?
Phone is the internal partition that is /mnt/sdcard/, while card is the microsd card mounted as /mnt/sdcard2. The reason why everything on the evo goes to the microsd is because there was no internal partition to store data. With devices that have internal memory, that internal memory is the equivalent to the microsd on your evo.
What this means is that all the apps that have no ability to define a storage location, such as gps apps with local instead of net-based maps, games, and most newsreaders will save their cache data to the internal memory. You can redirect the storage location to /mnt/sdcard2/ for programs that support changing download locations, and that will work like it used to with the OG evo.
I still store my videos/music/photos in the external microsd, but without some rooted magic i don't think you can change the default mapping to the microsd. Finally, while the camera app allows moving to storage, i find that my lexar 32gb class 10 card is not fast enough to keep up with the burst mode, so i left that to internal storage.
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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you may need root.
don't hold me to that though
thats what i was thinking but i wasnt trying to talk out of my rear end ah well at least i can still store my music and pics on my sd card...without root a 32gb card seems pretty extreme doncha think? without all the nandroids and roms lol
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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know i don't know if this will work with apps but it work for photos, i opened the phone's card and long pressed on the ones i wanted to move and selected the option-move to, and transfered photos from phone card to sdcard. i did this with es file explorer. from the phones card not the internal storage or memory wharever it's called
Tried using es file explorer and my sd card didn't even show up. This is what it looks like in disk usage
The storage card is the phones hard drive I think (it's 8 gbs right? And we can't use all 8?)
The /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd is my 32 gig sd card. But when I move my apps it goes to internal storage
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Tried using es file explorer and my sd card didn't even show up. This is what it looks like in disk usage
The storage card is the phones hard drive I think (it's 8 gbs right? And we can't use all 8?)
The /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd is my 32 gig sd card. But when I move my apps it goes to internal storage
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
I'll try that after work thanks boss
Aldo101t said:
Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
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We established this in another thread about a month ago. With the introduction of Android 4.0, Google decided to change the way mounts work in Android. Google, assuming that microSD card would be phased out in the introduction of larger capacity internal storage phones without microSD slots, decided to make the internal eMMC storage be named 'sdcard', since most apps already used the 'sdcard' location for saving data, and name a real SD card 'sdcard2', also reachable by a folder in 'sdcard' name 'sd_ext'.
The largest phone out there right now that I know of has 64GB total of internal storage, while phones like ours only have 8GB total, with about half being taken up by the system, necessitating the usage of a real SD card for storage. The /data partition on our phone only has about 1GB available, and a dozen medium-sized apps and their data will use that up quickly. In short, there's no way to install apps to the real SD card since ICS, and once your eMMC 'sdcard' fills up, you're out of luck. A large oversight, in my opinion, by Google and HTC.
If our phone had 16GB of internal storage, we might not have that problem nearly as quickly, but games like DEAD Trigger, which is nearly 200MB, will quickly fill up our phone.
Basically, pick and choose the apps you want carefully, and keep the eMMC 'sdcard' partition as empty as possible, aside from your larger apps.
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
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When you move an app to 'Phone storage', it saves in the eMMC internal storage '/sdcard/.android_secure/' folder as a '.asec' file. In my testing, if you move it to actual SD card, that is '/sdcard2/.android_secure/', it won't recognize it. It displays 'Application not installed' when clicking on the app to run it. The Android system saves the pointer to the apk, whether it's saved in '/data/app' or '/sdcard/.android_secure/', and that's the only place it will look for it. You can't move it to the real SD card unless someone else has found a workaround, and I haven't heard of it if the have. I'll find the link to our previous discussion and post it.
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We established this in another thread about a month ago. With the introduction of Android 4.0, Google decided to change the way mounts work in Android. Google, assuming that microSD card would be phased out in the introduction of larger capacity internal storage phones without microSD slots, decided to make the internal eMMC storage be named 'sdcard', since most apps already used the 'sdcard' location for saving data, and name a real SD card 'sdcard2', also reachable by a folder in 'sdcard' name 'sd_ext'.
The largest phone out there right now that I know of has 64GB total of internal storage, while phones like ours only have 8GB total, with about half being taken up by the system, necessitating the usage of a real SD card for storage. The /data partition on our phone only has about 1GB available, and a dozen medium-sized apps and their data will use that up quickly. In short, there's no way to install apps to the real SD card since ICS, and once your eMMC 'sdcard' fills up, you're out of luck. A large oversight, in my opinion, by Google and HTC.
If our phone had 16GB of internal storage, we might not have that problem nearly as quickly, but games like DEAD Trigger, which is nearly 200MB, will quickly fill up our phone.
Basically, pick and choose the apps you want carefully, and keep the eMMC 'sdcard' partition as empty as possible, aside from your larger apps.
When you move an app to 'Phone storage', it saves in the eMMC internal storage '/sdcard/.android_secure/' folder as a '.asec' file. In my testing, if you move it to actual SD card, that is '/sdcard2/.android_secure/', it won't recognize it. It displays 'Application not installed' when clicking on the app to run it. The Android system saves the pointer to the apk, whether it's saved in '/data/app' or '/sdcard/.android_secure/', and that's the only place it will look for it. You can't move it to the real SD card unless someone else has found a workaround, and I haven't heard of it if the have. I'll find the link to our previous discussion and post it.
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okey dokey, maybe after root we can do something with it.
Has anyone tried a 64 GB card with this phone? I jumped the gun and bought one for $44 because they work in the Incredible 2.
itll work for media like pics and music I think. Thanks for all the info. I'm new to this phone and also official ICS
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Has anyone tried a 64 GB card with this phone? I jumped the gun and bought one for $44 because they work in the Incredible 2.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841317