When I connect the phone to my PC and use Media Sync it says phone and card. I am not used to this with the OG Evo everything was on my sd card. Can someone explain what is the difference between the phone and card? Why are some of the apps data being stored on the phone rather than the card?
Phone is the internal partition that is /mnt/sdcard/, while card is the microsd card mounted as /mnt/sdcard2. The reason why everything on the evo goes to the microsd is because there was no internal partition to store data. With devices that have internal memory, that internal memory is the equivalent to the microsd on your evo.
What this means is that all the apps that have no ability to define a storage location, such as gps apps with local instead of net-based maps, games, and most newsreaders will save their cache data to the internal memory. You can redirect the storage location to /mnt/sdcard2/ for programs that support changing download locations, and that will work like it used to with the OG evo.
I still store my videos/music/photos in the external microsd, but without some rooted magic i don't think you can change the default mapping to the microsd. Finally, while the camera app allows moving to storage, i find that my lexar 32gb class 10 card is not fast enough to keep up with the burst mode, so i left that to internal storage.
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if you cant put apps and save pics and it doesnt function like a normal android device sd card
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More storage space? a lot of programs let you set the storage location, which you can change to the external.
also great for media like music and movies since it's removable. Works just like any sd card i've ever used in a phone. Just a different directory name.
you are wrong when you save you cannot save pictrures to it and that it does not fucntion like a normal android sd card. Of course you can save music, video, and pictures to the external sd card. it functions just like any other sd card. if you phone happens to die, you can remove the sdcard and still retreive those media files. if you keep everything on the internal sd card, if your phone dies, how do you expect to retrieve those files?
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it does not let me use my sd storage says no storage is there when i unmount my internal Sd how do you guys have it setup. my sd is under sd ext in astro whan i take a pic it says cannot save to sd its probably mounted wrong but it still saves the pic to the external sd but really its annoying and it does not function properly
it does not let me move to SD card just to MEDIA which is still the internal so....
Did you make sure the sd card is formatted correctly? Also with an app you can move some appz to the sd card I believe. also you can 100% back up your contacts as vcards on the sd card which I think is pretty nifty
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Try to use sdtools and use the external and tell me what it does
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This phone has 16gb internal plus whatever size your sd card is. When I set mine up I formated the card and pushed my music to what the phone calls the media area. The music ended up on the phone internal memory and all apps only have the option to go to the media area in app manager. So I just manually moved the music to the sd card. But I am guessing it wont start using the sd card until the internal 16gb is filled up. The memory setting has an option for windows sync to go to either the internal mem or sd card.
What I think they should add is the option to fill up the sd card first then the internal memory if the card fills up.
I'm lost? The external SD card option is great because once that 16GB is filled up, you have the option to add upto 32GB of memory to your phone. If you don't see that as a good thing, then you don't need to put in an SD card. I got an Atrix over the Nexus S because of the lack of external SD card on the phone. I like it when I have options. I have pictures and musics on my SD card.
you dont need to fill up internal storage; i made a folder in the SD root directory called music, added music to that file with windows media player, and they were found right off the bat. did the same with movies, ringtones, and pictures; everything goes to my SD card, all my fresh downloads of movies pics and music go to the phones internal storage, so when i hook up my atrix to my PC i sync all other media to the memory card and my pc gets all the new data off my atrix. i have about 10GB open on the atrix and 4GB open on the microSD card.
i just hate the fact everything goes to internal first then you transfer later that sucks
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i just hate the fact everything goes to internal first then you transfer later that sucks
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If you're referring to the camera and other things, no, you're wrong. There must be some issue with your micro SD card and the phone. On my Atrix, if I choose SD card for storage in the Camera's settings, all pictures I take go to the dcim folder on the SD card immediately. I don't have to move anything. Similarly, when syncing my music, I go into the Device menu in Motorola Media Link and choose my SD card. All the music, photos and videos go immediately there. I never have to copy things over manually.
I'd suggest trying another brand of SD card, or reformatting your card (use FAT32 as the format type).
I recently brought an s2 without knowing about the 2gig internal mem and 11 gig usb storage which is a disappointing thing as most of the apps or games get installed on 2gig phone mem and cannot be moved. This makes the other 11gig useless except for storing other data. I also have 16gig external sd card which i purchased separately but it is also useless except that the cam pics location can be changed to it.
Is there anyway to resolve this and make sure that the apps or games get installed on either external sd card or the usbstorage..over a period of time i guess that the 2gig phone memory will be full and the phone becomes slow...can anyone pls suggest me..
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Move your apps to the sd card. No other phones can help you. You purchased the best one imo.
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I do move the apps to the SD card, But whats the use of the 11 gig internal usb storage memory? Assume that i don't have an SD card then how? Down the lane after i install the apps or games my phone or device memory(2Gig) on to which the apps get installed by default will be full and might run in to some issues? Isn't there anyway to make the apps get installed on to SD card or internal usb storage memory(11 Gig) while installing itself?
Internal storage = 2 gb = it`s the default install path for apps
Sdcard = 11 gb = it` s the internal built in "external" sd card. If You use app2sd that's the external sd card for android.
External_sdcard = 2nd external sd card (up to 32gb) = ONLY GOOD FOR MASS STORAGE (vids, pics, docs etc)
Thats it. You cant change this fact since android is not made to handle a 2nd ext sd as system drive......
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There is a way to set the sd as default install. I read it somewhere. It is involves some programs and basic commands in windows. But save yourself the trouble and get app2sd App.
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Hey troed,
Thanks for the brief explanation, even i know that the 2nd external SD cannot be used as the system drive, I store all my Docs, Pics, Vids and stuff on it....
But is there any way to make the apps installed on Sdcard = 11 gb = it` s the internal built in "external" sd card?
when we download the apps they by default gets installed on to Internal storage = 2 gb = it`s the default install path for apps.
Is there any way to make the sd card the default one for installation of apps?
Also we will not be able to move all apps to the external sdcard, only few of them give the option of moving them to sdcard even if we use apps2sd...
All i'm trying to figure out is that is there any way to leave the internal storage as it is and install or move the apps to sdcard or external sdcard because over a period of time i fear that the my phone internal 2gig memory might get full and i may run in to problems like phone hanging and out of memory issues for most of the operations....
Applications/games with large amount of data usually stores the majority of their data on the SD-card (the 11GB partition in SGS2), this includes e g Gameloft games, and navigation systems, so it is not easy to fill up 2GB even without use of apps2SD or similar solutions.
I have a lot of apps and games on my SGS2, and I have used 650MB so far, so it is still 2/3 left, if I reach 2GB then I really need to clean up anyway...
HTC desire had about 100MB left for apps, that was a huge problem, but on SGS2 with 20 times more space I don't think you should be too worried.
Hey all,
I did a quick search in our forum and found a few early threads but nothing that explained the differences to me... This is my first android.
My questions are around this menu:
Settings -> Applications -> Storage Use.
on the 'Downloaded' and 'All' tab, at the bottom it says "Internal Storage"
with what looks like a max of ~2.3GB.. at least mine says 790MB Used, 1.6GB Free.
On the 'On SD Card' tab it says "SD card storage" and a max ~10.5GB or so... (1.3gb used 9.2gb free)
I know I put a 32GB SD card in my phone.... and under phone & SD Storage, I see these three different storage points.
What's what here? Is there an internal mounted SD card in our phones that I can't remove?
When I "Move to SD" card, is the app only moving to this other 'internal' storage?
I was a little confused by this, but if my removable 32GB SD card literally is just extended storage that I put my own music/movies/videos...etc. on, then that's cool...
I just want to understand that 'move to SD' isn't actually moving it to my SD card at all... And then, how many of you move your apps to this other 'internal' SD card, or do you actually have a way to put them on your 'removable' SD card.
Don't know whether this is your first Android phone or, like me, you migrated to the Rezound from another phone, but here's the scoop. What used to be called \emmc on the Incredible, or the "internal" drive of 8 gigabytes is now mounted on the Rezound as \sdcard. Many applications think that your "external memory" is what is actually this "internal" 16 gb drive on the Rezound.
Your removable microsd card is mounted both as \sdcard2 and as \sdcard\ext_sd. For applications which enable you to designate a data directory, e.g. Titanium Backup, My Backup Pro, XDA Premium, Tapatalk, etc., you can redirect the app to store its data on the "real" external drive. Otherwise, your "external" data will really be stored on the "internal", nonremovable 16gb drive.
The other space (I believe it's 8gb) is for applications and ROM. It's so capacious, right now at least, that the necessity we faced on the Incredible and other phones to: (1) "move apps" to SD; or (2) use an ext3 partition and link2sd, is not as pressing. For instance, I easily have >100 apps installed and I still have nearly 2 gigabytes free in that space.
Hope this helps.
This part confused me and seems redundant. Coming from the Inc1 and 2 I never use the internal memory. With a 32gb card I want everything automatically saved on that. Now I have to deal with sdcard sdcard and ext_sd. I'm not enjoying this part of the phone but at least we have an sd
What your phone calls "sdcard" is actually your internal storage, most apps look at "sdcard" as your actual removable card, on this phone it is not. What your phone calls "sdcard2" is your removable sd card. If you want an app to store things on your removable sd card you have to either change the path in the app itself(of course most apps don't have this function) or move the data there manually. Its completely stupid and I hate it, but no phone is perfect.
once everything is fully unlocked we can edit things to switch the 2 around
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is it possible to swap the internal & mounted sd cards so that i can make better use of the available space on my 32gb external card rather than be limited to the 8ish gb currently in use?
i've tried directory bind - which seems like the long way round the houses.
put simply: can i allocate the mounted/3rd party card as the primary sd?
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is it possible to swap the internal & mounted sd cards so that i can make better use of the available space on my 32gb external card rather than be limited to the 8ish gb currently in use?
i've tried directory bind - which seems like the long way round the houses.
put simply: can i allocate the mounted/3rd party card as the primary sd?
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No, maybe it is but then it will work badly, you must just manage e.g. all your apps on the internal ROM, Music and Videos on your ex_sd and Documents & Downloads on your in_sd, I can't imagine you have problems with that much storage. I have a 32GB ext_sd too and I have got it like this:
EX_SD: 30GB Music and 2GB Data (ROM ZIP's etc.)
IN_SD: 4GB Ringtones, Data, Pictures etc.
Internal Storage: 820MB Apps
I hope my information was helpful
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helpful, thanks. i've torrents & ftp'd music & films on the external card which is i guess always going to be the biggest type of memory hog.
just curious what is possible. i've gotten used to single large drives on pc's & although rarely an issue on a rooted phone the very concept of receiving a low memory warning seems daft in the 21st century
how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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you may need root.
don't hold me to that though
thats what i was thinking but i wasnt trying to talk out of my rear end ah well at least i can still store my music and pics on my sd card...without root a 32gb card seems pretty extreme doncha think? without all the nandroids and roms lol
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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know i don't know if this will work with apps but it work for photos, i opened the phone's card and long pressed on the ones i wanted to move and selected the option-move to, and transfered photos from phone card to sdcard. i did this with es file explorer. from the phones card not the internal storage or memory wharever it's called
Tried using es file explorer and my sd card didn't even show up. This is what it looks like in disk usage
The storage card is the phones hard drive I think (it's 8 gbs right? And we can't use all 8?)
The /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd is my 32 gig sd card. But when I move my apps it goes to internal storage
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Tried using es file explorer and my sd card didn't even show up. This is what it looks like in disk usage
The storage card is the phones hard drive I think (it's 8 gbs right? And we can't use all 8?)
The /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd is my 32 gig sd card. But when I move my apps it goes to internal storage
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
I'll try that after work thanks boss
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
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We established this in another thread about a month ago. With the introduction of Android 4.0, Google decided to change the way mounts work in Android. Google, assuming that microSD card would be phased out in the introduction of larger capacity internal storage phones without microSD slots, decided to make the internal eMMC storage be named 'sdcard', since most apps already used the 'sdcard' location for saving data, and name a real SD card 'sdcard2', also reachable by a folder in 'sdcard' name 'sd_ext'.
The largest phone out there right now that I know of has 64GB total of internal storage, while phones like ours only have 8GB total, with about half being taken up by the system, necessitating the usage of a real SD card for storage. The /data partition on our phone only has about 1GB available, and a dozen medium-sized apps and their data will use that up quickly. In short, there's no way to install apps to the real SD card since ICS, and once your eMMC 'sdcard' fills up, you're out of luck. A large oversight, in my opinion, by Google and HTC.
If our phone had 16GB of internal storage, we might not have that problem nearly as quickly, but games like DEAD Trigger, which is nearly 200MB, will quickly fill up our phone.
Basically, pick and choose the apps you want carefully, and keep the eMMC 'sdcard' partition as empty as possible, aside from your larger apps.
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
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When you move an app to 'Phone storage', it saves in the eMMC internal storage '/sdcard/.android_secure/' folder as a '.asec' file. In my testing, if you move it to actual SD card, that is '/sdcard2/.android_secure/', it won't recognize it. It displays 'Application not installed' when clicking on the app to run it. The Android system saves the pointer to the apk, whether it's saved in '/data/app' or '/sdcard/.android_secure/', and that's the only place it will look for it. You can't move it to the real SD card unless someone else has found a workaround, and I haven't heard of it if the have. I'll find the link to our previous discussion and post it.
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We established this in another thread about a month ago. With the introduction of Android 4.0, Google decided to change the way mounts work in Android. Google, assuming that microSD card would be phased out in the introduction of larger capacity internal storage phones without microSD slots, decided to make the internal eMMC storage be named 'sdcard', since most apps already used the 'sdcard' location for saving data, and name a real SD card 'sdcard2', also reachable by a folder in 'sdcard' name 'sd_ext'.
The largest phone out there right now that I know of has 64GB total of internal storage, while phones like ours only have 8GB total, with about half being taken up by the system, necessitating the usage of a real SD card for storage. The /data partition on our phone only has about 1GB available, and a dozen medium-sized apps and their data will use that up quickly. In short, there's no way to install apps to the real SD card since ICS, and once your eMMC 'sdcard' fills up, you're out of luck. A large oversight, in my opinion, by Google and HTC.
If our phone had 16GB of internal storage, we might not have that problem nearly as quickly, but games like DEAD Trigger, which is nearly 200MB, will quickly fill up our phone.
Basically, pick and choose the apps you want carefully, and keep the eMMC 'sdcard' partition as empty as possible, aside from your larger apps.
When you move an app to 'Phone storage', it saves in the eMMC internal storage '/sdcard/.android_secure/' folder as a '.asec' file. In my testing, if you move it to actual SD card, that is '/sdcard2/.android_secure/', it won't recognize it. It displays 'Application not installed' when clicking on the app to run it. The Android system saves the pointer to the apk, whether it's saved in '/data/app' or '/sdcard/.android_secure/', and that's the only place it will look for it. You can't move it to the real SD card unless someone else has found a workaround, and I haven't heard of it if the have. I'll find the link to our previous discussion and post it.
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okey dokey, maybe after root we can do something with it.
Has anyone tried a 64 GB card with this phone? I jumped the gun and bought one for $44 because they work in the Incredible 2.
itll work for media like pics and music I think. Thanks for all the info. I'm new to this phone and also official ICS
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Has anyone tried a 64 GB card with this phone? I jumped the gun and bought one for $44 because they work in the Incredible 2.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841317