Ok Iv noticed that things are getting really really confusing around here with people saying one thing then someone else saying something else. I want to have a thread that is straight forward coming from people that know what they are talking about and not just assuming.
Now my phone has never had an unlocked bootloader. Before I updated to GB OTA i was on .83 rooted with all the mods added to it (webtop dock, blah, blah blah) I RSD back to .26 (that very old file) and just started doing OTA updates one by one once i logged in with my blurr account. I updated to GB via the official OTA update that was pushed to my phone when i selected to system update under settings.
I was able to Root this ATT OFFICIAL version pushed to my phone using This Pre-install method and that is all that i have done.
What i want to do now is Unlock the bootloader. From what i have read Pudding is the best way of doing this.
Q1: Does this method (Pudding) work with the Official ATT OTA version pushed to phones and not Kenns modded version, and is it the only way to unlock the bootloader?
Q2: Once unlocked what version of CWR do I install to be able to flash ROMs? Would i be able to just install ROM Manager and do the installation from there, Or possibly both ROM Manager and CWR?
Q3: Since RSD is out of the picture for me, if for some reason I'm to soft brick my phone and can still get into Recovery mode, what .sbf do i flash, would it have to be the same one that was pushed to phones that if not already available on here will be really soon?
Thanks for all the help if anyone helps out.
StyleUkno
Q2, if you unlock your phone, cwM of tenfars, the 2nd version for unlocked. Rom manager with official CWM have released before some days, but yet it doesn't support external sd.
As for question 1, and the unlocking pudding. The OTA gb you installed, might updated you bootloader, and maybe can't use that pudding.
For that be very carefull of your next steps.. Personally I would have send a pm to the2dcour, or another dev that knows as much..
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Q1: Does this method (Pudding) work with the Official ATT OTA version pushed to phones and not Kenns modded version, and is it the only way to unlock the bootloader?
Yes, pudding works and is the only way. Have to Flash pudding and run OEM unlock command in fastboot. Because you are already on OTA, there's a high chance you will need an extra couple steps. It will likely soft brick with 0x1000 error but wit fastboot option. From there you need to fastboot and re do the oem unlock command another time. Then you are fine.
Q2: Once unlocked what version of CWR do I install to be able to flash ROMs? Would i be able to just install ROM Manager and do the installation from there, Or possibly both ROM Manager and CWR?
Tenfar's 6/30 unlocked CWM. ROM Manager version doesn't properly wipe as of yet. You can update if you dont' care about wiping, but that usually leads to boot loops when installing roms. Also most devs here are using update scripts tailored for tenfars version
Q3: Since RSD is out of the picture for me, if for some reason I'm to soft brick my phone and can still get into Recovery mode, what .sbf do i flash, would it have to be the same one that was pushed to phones that if not already available on here will be really soon?
if you softbrick (other than the initial unlock soft brick where you just run oem unlock again) then depends on what you want to get to. CWM a rom.zip/fruitcake for the version you want would be ideal. If not then a fastboot version if available. I'd RSD the GB 4.5 with pudding sbf as a last resort.
StyleUkno said:
Ok Iv noticed that things are getting really really confusing around here with people saying one thing then someone else saying something else. I want to have a thread that is straight forward coming from people that know what they are talking about and not just assuming.
Now my phone has never had an unlocked bootloader. Before I updated to GB OTA i was on .83 rooted with all the mods added to it (webtop dock, blah, blah blah) I RSD back to .26 (that very old file) and just started doing OTA updates one by one once i logged in with my blurr account. I updated to GB via the official OTA update that was pushed to my phone when i selected to system update under settings.
I was able to Root this ATT OFFICIAL version pushed to my phone using This Pre-install method and that is all that i have done.
What i want to do now is Unlock the bootloader. From what i have read Pudding is the best way of doing this.
Q1: Does this method (Pudding) work with the Official ATT OTA version pushed to phones and not Kenns modded version, and is it the only way to unlock the bootloader?
If you use the pudding you will hard brick on the OTA (from what people have been saying)
Q2: Once unlocked what version of CWR do I install to be able to flash ROMs? Would i be able to just install ROM Manager and do the installation from there, Or possibly both ROM Manager and CWR?
Out of the picture becuase you cant unlock I think
Q3: Since RSD is out of the picture for me, if for some reason I'm to soft brick my phone and can still get into Recovery mode, what .sbf do i flash, would it have to be the same one that was pushed to phones that if not already available on here will be really soon?
Thanks for all the help if anyone helps out.
StyleUkno
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So someone help me out.
If i'm rooted and that's it and I never unlocked the bl, can I upgrade OTA without a brick or semi brick? I don't remember the exact steps but I'm pretty sure that I upgraded all the way thru .83 OTA then used rdlite to root.
Yup! Root will not prevent the OTA from installing.
Hi,
I have a rooted MB860 with 4.5.141. I got a popup for upgrade to 4.5.145. Can I install the update with my phone being rooted?
Pls clarify.
Yes you can install on a rooted phone. Now does anybody have root for this?
I was rooted but not unlocked with version 4.5.141. I let the update do it's thing yesterday and all went well except I lost root, which was expected but now I am lurking/stalking the board looking for info on how to re-root.
2/23/13: I was able to re-root using the same pre install method I used to root 4.5.141. Now should I wait for a reliable BL unlock method or trade it for a comparable Samsung model? It just fits in my hand so perfectly that I haven't been able to give up on it even though my primary phone is now an SGS Note 2 (SGH I317)
Biggest question is should I root before taking any OTA's (like 4.1.2) it wants to get something but I keep saying no until I know better.
Next is OF COURSE what root and bootloader unlock is best?
From what I have read it looks like the toolkit or ExynosAbuse APK v1.40.
Thanks in advance
There is only one bootloader unlock method (which will include root) for each baseband (VRALJB or VRALL4). Determine which you are on (settings > about phone > baseband version) and then follow Adam Outler's method for your baseband. Easy. From there you will be able to flash ROMs, etc. Once you are unlocked, rely on the dev community for updates, not OTAs...they are faster than Verizon every time and you know what you are getting. When Verizon rolls out an OTA, you never know what's included ( for example with the VRALL4 update they relocked everyone's bootloader).
Hey, I need to make up my mind this weekend on which phone I will be getting from Verizon. Can you name any phones that you know of that have a up-to-date root method and maybe even unlocked bootloaders (as of now)? Thanks!!!
I was wondering the same thing. It doesn't seem there are any new phones that have official methods of unlocking the bootloader. They are all exploits. My last phone that had an exploit was my S3, but since I have the protection plan it kept getting replaced with refubs. Last one had 4.4.2 installed and there is currently no exploit. I want to get a new phone to replace it so I can use custom roms, but don't want to go through the problem again.
Anyways, good luck.
Only way that is happening is if you order a Developer Edition model. They haven't been cool with unlocking their bootloaders for ages now.