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At the moment I have RA-Hero 1.6.2, and the rooted stock 1.5 HTC ROM (2.73.405.66) on a GSM Hero
I'm just wondering what the radio actually is, and whether I need to update it? From what I can gather, it's the actual phone part of the phone? At the moment I have 63.18.55.06EU_6.35.06.18 do I need to upgrade to 63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26
Also, do I just flash this like a normal ROM in .zip format?
I found the links here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
Thanks
Yes aradio is the 'phone' part of the phone.
The is no actual need to update a radio but sometimes it can give a better service (better internet connection for example, or maybe better signal)
yes radios are flashed the same way as a rom, jus flash the .zip over the rom, DO NOT WIPE like you do with a rom.
And always do a nandroid backup before flashing.
Also be sure the radio is compatible with your phone. (check is GSM not CDMA)
Yeah I took a chance and just flashed it (did a Nandroid back up first of course )
I was worried as hell at first, because that weird logo came on like the phone coming out of the box, and then it was rebooting for ages
Haven't really noticed any signal increases, but I guess it can't do any worse can it!
Okay, I apologize if this thread is posted somewhere else on here, but this is my problem. I have a HTC Thunderbolt, rooted with the new update (1.70.605.0) prevent the frequent reboots. But now that I’ve put the update on there, if I flash a custom rom it automatically removes the update, putting me back with the rebooting issues again. So, to get to the point, is there a way to flash a custom rom but yet keep the new update?
You have to flash a ROM based on that update. Look in the descriptions of the ROM's to find out if it is or not.
I've been looking almost everywhere, and I don't think there's a rom that fits those specs out.
The very action of flashing a ROM is to replace the current one. To give some clarity: there are 3 pieces of software that the phone requires. A radio, hboot, and an OS; usually called a ROM. Your update included a radio which was the reason for the reboots. Any ROM that will work with That radio should yield performance equal to or better than what you have.
I'm sorry I'm kinda new to this all that's why I seem kinda lost. But basically all I need to do, is put the root in, den flash the radio that came with the update?
I'm sorry i worded that all wrong. The only thing that the rom with the update comes with is, busybox and deodexed. It also comes with the 1.70.605.0 radio. Say if i flashed the thunderbolt rom in my phone. After installing it, will it do away with that radio and update or will it remain in there. If not, if i flashed the updated radio with the thunderbolt rom will it pretty much be the same as the update and keep me from having unwanted reboots?
Radios are not included with a ROM. Only the kernel and the ROM change when you flash a ROM.
ROM's are flashed in recovery, Radio's are flashed from the root of your SD card using HBOOT. You get to hboot by powering off your phone, or just do a battery pull, then hold the Volume down button while powering on the phone.
Just make sure that the radio can be used on the ROM. The original post of any ROM thread will list the recommend radio(s) to use.
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Okay, thanks for all the help. Last question, after the putting a rom in with the ota update in. I flashed to another rom, but once i did that the ota update was no longer there, so i tried the update while running the custom rom and it wouldnt go through leaving me withe the old ota. is there a way to still put the update on after flashing?
I was prepared to put up with all sorts of new release issues. But there's something going on with the radios that's just gobbling up my battery (and I have the Big Kahuna 2.8 amp).
The phone stays over 110F, and it discharges on USB power unless I put it into airplane mode. It's simply no good for me, perhaps due to the patchy 4g coverage in my area. This is a serious problem.
Unfortunately, I don't know any of the release numbers prior to ICS 605. Can anyone direct me to stock images that could at least get me on an OTA path back to the current official released build? I have decent AmonRa nandroids of my last GB config, but I'll need to lay down the old kernel and perhaps some of the boot layers before I can restore them.
I sure hope there's a way out of this.
the best you can do that i know is flash a custom GB ROM with kernel after, and then flash scott's gb fix that will give you back your sd card. I would read up on the cleanrom 4.0 thread.
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I installed it 3 days ago. Relocked full stock. Used new included removal tool to take out alot of BLOAT. Connects to 3G/4G faster than Gingerbread.
Some new menus. Fewer choices in Power Settings, and differences in other
places, all good. When you say OK to something, the OK defaults to the right
side of the screen in most all permissions. Does not run hot. Battery life
just about the same. Seems like a great new upgrade of the Zound with some very useful and appreciated customization features running bone stock. Fast fast fast too.
p.s. it ran funny after the first flash of new PGXX.zip. Had to flash it twice and watch it tick thru each item. It di not go fully thru that list first time by the way: could account for some folk's radio and heat problems (?)
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I installed it 3 days ago. Relocked full stock. Used new included removal tool to take out alot of BLOAT. Connects to 3G/4G faster than Gingerbread.
Some new menus. Fewer choices in Power Settings, and differences in other
places, all good. When you say OK to something, the OK defaults to the right
side of the screen in most all permissions. Does not run hot. Battery life
just about the same. Seems like a great new upgrade of the Zound with some very useful and appreciated customization features running bone stock. Fast fast fast too.
p.s. it ran funny after the first flash of new PGXX.zip. Had to flash it twice and watch it tick thru each item. It di not go fully thru that list first time by the way: could account for some folk's radio and heat problems (?)
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it's normal to flash twice.. it's not actually flashing it twice, only once..
but it reboots after flashing a few things, then reboots back to bootloader, and u have to press power and wait for it to read again
michaelbsheldon said:
I installed it 3 days ago. Relocked full stock. Used new included removal tool to take out alot of BLOAT. Connects to 3G/4G faster than Gingerbread.
Some new menus. Fewer choices in Power Settings, and differences in other
places, all good. When you say OK to something, the OK defaults to the right
side of the screen in most all permissions. Does not run hot. Battery life
just about the same. Seems like a great new upgrade of the Zound with some very useful and appreciated customization features running bone stock. Fast fast fast too.
p.s. it ran funny after the first flash of new PGXX.zip. Had to flash it twice and watch it tick thru each item. It di not go fully thru that list first time by the way: could account for some folk's radio and heat problems (?)
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I'm not trying to debate whether it works for you. It's just not working for me, and not just in one of those minor inconvenience ways -- these temps are unsustainable. Is there any path that gets me to where I can restore a previous nandroid of the current OTA release? I'm thinking I'm going to need the official GB kernel, and maybe some boot stuff. And I don't know the first thing about mainver.
If you are on CleanROM, you don't need to worry about the mainver issue.
Restore the nandroid from your GB setup. If you don't have the kernel, just download the rom that you had, or any GB rom for that matter, and look for the PH98IMG.zip.
You can do it one of two ways, put that zip on the root of your SD card or get the boot.img out of it and flash that in fastboot
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
cpurick said:
I'm not trying to debate whether it works for you. It's just not working for me, and not just in one of those minor inconvenience ways -- these temps are unsustainable. Is there any path that gets me to where I can restore a previous nandroid of the current OTA release? I'm thinking I'm going to need the official GB kernel, and maybe some boot stuff. And I don't know the first thing about mainver.
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Remember though, you are stuck on the new radios. You will also need to flash the gingerbread patch. You also won't receive much support from devs trying to run gb on ics firmware.
EmerikL said:
If you are on CleanROM, you don't need to worry about the mainver issue.
Restore the nandroid from your GB setup. If you don't have the kernel, just download the rom that you had, or any GB rom for that matter, and look for the PH98IMG.zip.
You can do it one of two ways, put that zip on the root of your SD card or get the boot.img out of it and flash that in fastboot
Code:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
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This sounds perfect. Do you know where I can find a GB kernel? I didn't think to note the version, and I really didn't expect to be going back.
Any of the GB Roms have it. It is the stock kernel.
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con247 said:
Remember though, you are stuck on the new radios. You will also need to flash the gingerbread patch. You also won't receive much support from devs trying to run gb on ics firmware.
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Thanks.
Do I just search for Rezound Gingerbread Patch?
Do you think this will make things worse? Do you have any recommendations for a phone that runs hot on ICS? It's definitely cooler in airplane mode.
Without airplane mode, idle screen off temps are 105-110. If I turn the screen on for any time, they approach 120.
Set the CPU govenor to conservative. That will help. The patch for GB is in the CleanRom 4.0 thread.
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Set the CPU govenor to conservative. That will help. The patch for GB is in the CleanRom 4.0 thread.
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I am having the same issue as Cpurick. Forgive my ignorance, how do I set the CPU governor to conservative?
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So on topic
What's the consensus for full restoral to gingerbread?
I was stock.
Flashed leaked ics
Want to go back to gbread.
Unlock w HTC tool
Flash a recovery image
Flash a gingerbread rom and kernel
Flash gingerbread ruu?
Sounds simple enough or did I miss a step
You cant flash the GB RUU, the Hboot was upgraded. Flash ROM, Kernel, and the SD card fix and you will have it working.
EmerikL said:
You cant flash the GB RUU, the Hboot was upgraded. Flash ROM, Kernel, and the SD card fix and you will have it working.
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You won't be able to restore to 100% full stock. You'll be stuck like me. The new radio with gb is nice though
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Use Con's nandroid recovery helper and it will restore your nand and kernel. You will still need Scott's sd card patch though.
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I just wanted,to say thank you all for this,post...but this was a pain in my ass .I have it figured out now but it just is silly how much more there is to do without full s-off.
On the EVO, just flash away. Thunderbolt, radios, gbread, ics(alpha), this is just a little trickier.
Well I caught a break with the Rezound deal, I'm free from evil Motorola ~ droid X2
Is this a proper Rezound understanding?
1) The process is: htcdev-[unlock bootloader]
2) Use a perm root "application"
3) Install 1 of the 2 recovery modes
4) Pick a Rom ~ (do you need to be on a specific stock version first?)
From lots of searching, Cleanrom's ICS developer edition and Bamf (I'm not sure what version of it is better) appear to be the most reasonable choices?
I'm not sure if either of them have the "beats" tweak, or if the Bravia engine is a big improvement. Also, the custom kernels don't work with ICS right now I believe?
Finally, coming from Moto SBF, I don't realize how dangerous romming is with HTC, aka safety net.
I'd GREATLY appreciate any help/comments on the speculations and questions <3
Watercycle said:
Well I caught a break with the Rezound deal, I'm free from evil Motorola ~ droid X2
Is this a proper Rezound understanding?
1) The process is: htcdev-[unlock bootloader]
2) Use a perm root "application"
3) Install 1 of the 2 recovery modes
4) Pick a Rom ~ (do you need to be on a specific stock version first?)
From lots of searching, Cleanrom's ICS developer edition and Bamf (I'm not sure what version of it is better) appear to be the most reasonable choices?
I'm not sure if either of them have the "beats" tweak, or if the Bravia engine is a big improvement. Also, the custom kernels don't work with ICS right now I believe?
Finally, coming from Moto SBF, I don't realize how dangerous romming is with HTC, aka safety net.
I'd GREATLY appreciate any help/comments on the speculations and questions <3
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You don't need to permanent root it. Most (if not all) ROMS include root, and you can install root with Amon ra (DON'T use clockwork mod)
Cleanrom de is great. I use that one. I believe it has the beats Audio, but if it doesn't there is a flash able mod for it (link in my sig). And as far as the Sony bravia engine goes, I didn't notice any real improvement with it.
Custom kernels don't work in ICS for now....
Whatever you do DON'T upgrade to the ICS RUU it screws up most people's phones
And it is not possible to brick an s-on htc phone as far as I know. So romming is 120% safe
I disagree about the upgraded firmware. it doesn't necessarily harm anything. for me I get slightly better signal if not equivalent. problem with the newer radios is that you can't revert back to older without s-off. be sure to flash the old firmware patch before flashing the ics rom if u decide not to update. also amon ra 3.15 is the latest stable for ics,it won't give you memory card detection issues
use the "thanks" if I helped you at all
dyetheskin said:
I disagree about the upgraded firmware. it doesn't necessarily harm anything. for me I get slightly better signal if not equivalent. problem with the newer radios is that you can't revert back to older without s-off. be sure to flash the old firmware patch before flashing the ics rom if u decide not to update. also amon ra 3.15 is the latest stable for ics,it won't give you memory card detection issues
use the "thanks" if I helped you at all
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Well I have worse signal since the update, my wifi constantly dropps out, and my CPU is always running at max clock speed making my phone hot and my battery life crap. Some other people have this issue, so best not to try than to try and have bad results not being able to go back.
AshtonTS said:
Well I have worse signal since the update, my wifi constantly dropps out, and my CPU is always running at max clock speed making my phone hot and my battery life crap. Some other people have this issue, so best not to try than to try and have bad results not being able to go back.
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radio can only effect phone related issues as low signal/bad reception. the new firmware wont effect wifi. cpu trouble is due to stock kernel of ics. not firmware related. need your facts right. I'm on new firmware with cleanrom de for awhile now with none of your issues since I use the conservative cpu governor and underclock to 1.18ghz. if the firmware would effect anything for me or anyone who upgraded is the low signal,bad reception,slow mobile data rates. that's it. it's hit or miss with phone related connections. just a gambling risk. won't actually cause harm. won't notice a thing if you're close to towers
use the "thanks" if I helped you at all
dyetheskin said:
I disagree about the upgraded firmware. it doesn't necessarily harm anything. for me I get slightly better signal if not equivalent. problem with the newer radios is that you can't revert back to older without s-off. be sure to flash the old firmware patch before flashing the ics rom if u decide not to update. also amon ra 3.15 is the latest stable for ics,it won't give you memory card detection issues
use the "thanks" if I helped you at all
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You need to flash the patch after the rom install if running the old firmware.
1. HTC Dev Unlock
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
2. Recovery
Install amon ra in fastboot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23781936&postcount=428
download that from there then get to fastboot and type
fastboot flash recovery "nameofrecovery".img
in the command line in where your fastboot stuff is
3. ROM
Probably don't use the newest unofficial ruu
a.So find a rom you like
b. make sure it will work without the newest ruu (firmware) or will with a patch
c. Flash the rom in recovery
4. KERNEL
depends on the rom either
a. flash the boot.img in fastboot
"fastboot flash boot boot.img"
b. install the PH98IMG.zip in the bootloader
- deleted the ph98img.zip off the sd card after you flash it to avoid later problems
Hope i helped!!
EDIT: heres a rom that is oldish but i know it works on the old firmware without any patch.
ROM : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53731771/ICSSENSELESS403REDEFINED.zip
-it's by Joelz and a senseless pretty good - thanks Joelz
Kernel for that ^ rom http://dl.dropbox.com/u/53731771/PH98IMG-senseless1.7.zip
I think that kernel is over clocked a bit too.
so to recap you would put the rom on your ext sd card and flash in recovery
then rename the ph98img-senselsblahblah.zip to just ph98img.zip
place on ext sd card
then boot into bootloader and accept the update and it will load the kernel for you.
Then reboot and delete the ph98img from your sd with a file explorer
To boot into bootloader is turn off phone then hold volume down and power at the same time untill your in a white screen with some stuff.
Navigate with the volume to go up or down and power to select.
.... thats a lot of info ... again thanks to all the dev's (mandatory to thank the devs at least 1 bajillion times a day, for all the free awesome stuff they do)
Edit numero dos: The safety net for htc phones are the ruu's just stay on the official released ones.
A RUU resets EVERYTHING to stock, it's a .exe that you run on your computer while in fastboot mode on the phone (must re-lock bootloader to run/ "fastboot oem lock")
dyetheskin said:
radio can only effect phone related issues as low signal/bad reception. the new firmware wont effect wifi. cpu trouble is due to stock kernel of ics. not firmware related. need your facts right. I'm on new firmware with cleanrom de for awhile now with none of your issues since I use the conservative cpu governor and underclock to 1.18ghz. if the firmware would effect anything for me or anyone who upgraded is the low signal,bad reception,slow mobile data rates. that's it. it's hit or miss with phone related connections. just a gambling risk. won't actually cause harm. won't notice a thing if you're close to towers
use the "thanks" if I helped you at all
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Just throwing my experience out there so this guy doesn't have the same problems I did. And I'm not the only one who has problems with this firmware. And the CPU frequencies don't scale properly for some users, which is why I get bad battery life even though I have the CPU underclocked to 810mhz. And I'm well aware that it has todo with the kernel but for now we can't do anything about it. Need your facts right
I'm on the new firmware and haven't had any problems, though others have. Most of the current ICS roms now have a patch so you don't have to risk it. There are both GB and ICS kernals available that allow you to overclock, etc. Just make sure you're installing the correct kernal for your version of android. I've flashed most of the roms available right now and have been very happy with Cleanrom and Rezrom.
I recommend CleanRom DE I'd you like senseless. Been running it since the latest of his updates. Runs like a champ, and there are even some themes available.
Sent with a Rezounding HELL YEA!
So I can use a Temp-root and not even bother unlocking the bootloader?
and what about reflashing different roms ontop of a current custom rom?
Watercycle said:
So I can use a Temp-root and not even bother unlocking the bootloader?
and what about reflashing different roms ontop of a current custom rom?
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Don't temp root. Definitely use the htc unlock. And what do you mean by flash a rom on top of a custom rom exactly?
can't flash one over the other aka dirty unless it's an update to the same rom. example would be cleanrom 1.2 over 1.1. it's possible but not supported. always best to wipe and install fresh after a backup
Well, as I understand, I should update my phone with system updates, htc unlock, use oneclickroot/zergrush, install amonra recovery, and just flash/follow the steps from cleanrom ~ the all in one seems like it could help, i'll probably try the sequence on there XD
But then what if I wanted to switch over to the Evita one to give it a try?
The "s on/off" thing confuses me to, is that the bootloader?
haha, sorry for the questions, thank you for help =)
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Well, as I understand, I should update my phone with system updates, htc unlock, use oneclickroot/zergrush, install amonra recovery, and just flash/follow the steps from cleanrom ~ the all in one seems like it could help but it never mentions root.
But then what if I wanted to switch over to the Evita one to give it a try?
The "s on/off" thing confuses me to, is that the bootloader?
haha, sorry for the questions, thank you for help =)
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after you unlocked the bootloader with htcdev you go right to a recovery. reboot to bootloader and once it's in fastboot you run the flashing recovery command,reboot to recovery and follow the roms instructions. if were to try another rom you backup what you need then wipe/follow steps for the next rom. reason you skip rooting before an install is because nearly any rom you pick is already rooted
thank you that clears it up =)
one final worry is the RUU (what is it?) and phone version, should I just update everything prior to doing this stuff?
I would go ahead and update through settings before you root. (there's no reason not to really). As to whether or not you flash the leak, that's entirely up to you. I personally notice no difference.
The ruu (ROM update utility?) is a package that contains a complete update. (rom, kernel, etc.)
S-on/s-off refers to the security flag. HTC sets the flag to on which prevents the changing of radios (and splash screens, among other things) and makes other changes more difficult (though still doable, such as kernel changes).
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So I bought a Flyer already rooted. I checked what was on it, and I have this information:
Rooted
S-Off
Hboot
Revolutionary recovery CWM
Superuser installed
I believe it has a custom rom already installed because it has the model number of p510e and it is just a Flyer 16gb Wifi only.
I want to put leedroid on it, but I don't want to accidentally brick my system. Most instructions start at step one and work there way from there. I still am missing some information.
Let me know if you need radio information or what not. I just want to get leedroid on it asap as I keep installing programs on the included rom and that is wasted time and effort.
So the question is, to be clear, how do I get Leedroid on it properly? I am unaware what rom is currently on it.
Love this website. I searched for an answer for hours, so I hope I am not repeating!
I went for Dexters Jelly Bean ROM rather than LeeDroid: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1795342
Seems very stable, quick as I need and ticks boxes for me.
Hboots for Gingerbread is different from Honeycomb. So if the tablet is on GB, and you want to flash any HC, ICS, or JB ROMs, you need to upgrade the Hboot as per the guide here.
Otherwise, if its already on Gingerbread, and you want to flash LeeDroid GB, just put the ROM on the SD, go into recovery, make a nandroid, wipe data/cache/Dalvik, and flash the ROM.
Likewise, if the Flyer is already on HC, and you want to flash LeeDroid HC (or any other HC, ICS, or JB ROMs) just put the ROM on the SD, go into recovery, make a nandroid, wipe data/cache/Dalvik, and flash the ROM.
Thanks
Wow, redpoint73 you could not have made that any easier for me. I am now on Leedroid, but I think my radio is wrong. Does wifi only US version have a different radio then 3g? I am unable to get GPS to work. When I click on Phone options in settings, it crashes. I was hoping to have a dialer for VOIP.
I only tried LeeDroid for a short time. But I don't recall having any issues with the radio (mine is also WiFi only). But I don't use GPS on my Flyer really.
I'm still not clear, are you on the HC LeeDroid? HC has GPS issues.
Honeycomb,yes
Yes, I have Honeycomb. However, I just put honeysense on because, leedroid was acting weird. Who knows. I'll keep trying until I find the right one. Honestly, the one that came installed (don't know if it was stock, unfortunately) was pretty good. I did nandroid it, so worse comes to worse, I can go back to it. But it didn't have hard buttons or the dialer, both of which I want. Thanks again for your help.