Hello fellow EVO 3D users! We started this thread for a few reasons. First, we are helpful, good at troubleshooting, and we know android. Second, we used to be noobs, and haven't forgotten. Third, less clutter around here would be nice.
team d3rp is comprised of:
myself, ranger61878, pstevep, thoughtlesskyle, vanessaem, dkdude36, jdeloach, steelH, and fdb8231.
You can ask literally any question you want, we will try to help. Ask for links, zips, mods, root info, etc. Please search first, then ask for help. We may give you a little heat for being a d3rp, because it's fun, so don't take it personally.
Thanks in advance for asking your questions and requests in here, and NOT starting a new thread.
For requests, feel free to ask for whatever. We will try to create/modify what you want, but sometimes we won't be able to, or we won't want to lol. Just remember, if we can't do it or point you in the right direction, you're in the same boat as before you asked. No matter what we should all enjoy learning from each other.
Continue on with the questions. d3rp d3rp...
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will this car charger burn my battery up? it's a 2amp. are their any benefits/ negatives to a 2amp over a 1amp? thanks.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/univer...dapter-for-digital-devices-black-12-24v-72961
strap97 said:
will this car charger burn my battery up? it's a 2amp. are their any benefits/ negatives to a 2amp over a 1amp? thanks.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/univer...dapter-for-digital-devices-black-12-24v-72961
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I gotta say, aftermarket accessories may be where we draw the line on knowledge lol. I read that link, it said "for devices compatible with 5v/2000mA" so, I guess I don't know for sure. But, a 5 dollar USB charger will almost surely not hose down this device, it can transmit streaming HD thru that same port, so it's probably fine.
I lost roaming after s-off is there a fix
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ruffneckZeVo said:
I lost roaming after s-off is there a fix
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Is it still turned on in your settings? If it is, you'll have to call Sprint and have them refresh your phone.
ruffneckZeVo said:
I lost roaming after s-off is there a fix
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Are you on stock, stock w/kernel, custom ROM? Also, I assume you are constantly in the same roam area, and now it doesn't work? Are you sure it's just your phone? I guess since s-off is done throught the radio it is possible that s-off did it, but I doubt it. And what have you already tried to do for a fix?
s-off; Root; OTA Updates
I've been reading with great interest all of the threads about s-off, rooting for the EVO 3D. I have never rooted a phone before (although I did jailbreak a friends iphone a couple of years ago). Here's my question:
Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?
The reason I ask is that there are still a few things that I expect the next OTA update will fix such as the icons going default for any app stored on the SD card after reboot.
For now, I would like to be able to use apps that require root but still be able to use the OTA until such time as I decide to flash a custom ROM.
Thanks in advance.
mvansomeren said:
I've been reading with great interest all of the threads about s-off, rooting for the EVO 3D. I have never rooted a phone before (although I did jailbreak a friends iphone a couple of years ago). Here's my question:
Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?
The reason I ask is that there are still a few things that I expect the next OTA update will fix such as the icons going default for any app stored on the SD card after reboot.
For now, I would like to be able to use apps that require root but still be able to use the OTA until such time as I decide to flash a custom ROM.
Thanks in advance.
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Yes. s-off exploits the radio so OTA updates wont affect it.
Question regarding OC
I don't consider myself a n00b, but I am confused with the overclocking on this phone. I am coming from an EVO 4g, and did plenty of overclocking on it. What I noticed with the original EVO was that the performance benchmarks increased when it was overclocked. Once it reached a certain clock speed, then it would crash if it was too high. I keep seeing people say that benchmarks don't matter. I understand where they are coming from, but this is different.
Stock kernel with Viper ROM, my 3d scores in the 2000's consistently with Quadrant. If I overclock it to 1.5, it significantly drops. It's even worse when overclocked to 1.7 (the score is around 700). The phone does not crash though. People keep saying that this doesn't matter, but I have to disagree. As I am running Quadrant, I can visibly see the test animations are choppy and the FPS are much slower for each given test. Also, the database writes are taking longer. This would explain such a poor Quadrant score.
So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Maybe there is something off with the OC part of the kernels? I've tried both Silverneedle and RCMIX. Both give me the same results.
I've tried SetCPU with poor results. Then I uninstalled it and just used Viper's built in Daemon. Same poor results.
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
mvansomeren said:
I've been reading with great interest all of the threads about s-off, rooting for the EVO 3D. I have never rooted a phone before (although I did jailbreak a friends iphone a couple of years ago). Here's my question:
Is it possible to get s-off, root, recovery - keep the stock ROM and still take OTA updates?
The reason I ask is that there are still a few things that I expect the next OTA update will fix such as the icons going default for any app stored on the SD card after reboot.
For now, I would like to be able to use apps that require root but still be able to use the OTA until such time as I decide to flash a custom ROM.
Thanks in advance.
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I would avoid the OTAs if you can, because they will take away root, and I am sure we will get the GOOD parts of each OTA in here as a flashable zip. OTAs are notorious for patching root, so be weary, and wait to flash them until you read about them here first.
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I don't consider myself a n00b, but I am confused with the overclocking on this phone. I am coming from an EVO 4g, and did plenty of overclocking on it. What I noticed with the original EVO was that the performance benchmarks increased when it was overclocked. Once it reached a certain clock speed, then it would crash if it was too high. I keep seeing people say that benchmarks don't matter. I understand where they are coming from, but this is different.
Stock kernel with Viper ROM, my 3d scores in the 2000's consistently with Quadrant. If I overclock it to 1.5, it significantly drops. It's even worse when overclocked to 1.7 (the score is around 700). The phone does not crash though. People keep saying that this doesn't matter, but I have to disagree. As I am running Quadrant, I can visibly see the test animations are choppy and the FPS are much slower for each given test. Also, the database writes are taking longer. This would explain such a poor Quadrant score.
So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Maybe there is something off with the OC part of the kernels? I've tried both Silverneedle and RCMIX. Both give me the same results.
I've tried SetCPU with poor results. Then I uninstalled it and just used Viper's built in Daemon. Same poor results.
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
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Vipers Daemon is the reason you were getting great scores but once you flashed a kernel the daemon will no longer run even if you flash back to stock kernel, you will have to re-flash viperRom to get the daemon to run again until viper releases the daemon alone as a flashable file.
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So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
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IMO quad is NOT dual-core friendly, please use CF bench (made by chainfire on xda), I get sweet scores with that one. Using netarchy at 1.7 stock ROM.
You *might* have a chip that should stay at 1.2, who knows...
quads don't mean sh1t lol.
il Duce said:
I would avoid the OTAs if you can, because they will take away root, and I am sure we will get the GOOD parts of each OTA in here as a flashable zip. OTAs are notorious for patching root, so be weary, and wait to flash them until you read about them here first.
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I read from the devs that flashing OTA are safe since the exploit is via the radio. Think your wrong on this one, but its never a bad idea to be safe and check here before you accept an OTA.
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Are you on stock, stock w/kernel, custom ROM? Also, I assume you are constantly in the same roam area, and now it doesn't work? Are you sure it's just your phone? I guess since s-off is done throught the radio it is possible that s-off did it, but I doubt it. And what have you already tried to do for a fix?
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I'm using shooter rewind rls 2 rc1 has the newest rcmix kernel. It is an area I have always roamed in Verizon. So far I have done ##72786# and done the hands free updated prl tried all radios available
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ckombo said:
I don't consider myself a n00b, but I am confused with the overclocking on this phone. I am coming from an EVO 4g, and did plenty of overclocking on it. What I noticed with the original EVO was that the performance benchmarks increased when it was overclocked. Once it reached a certain clock speed, then it would crash if it was too high. I keep seeing people say that benchmarks don't matter. I understand where they are coming from, but this is different.
Stock kernel with Viper ROM, my 3d scores in the 2000's consistently with Quadrant. If I overclock it to 1.5, it significantly drops. It's even worse when overclocked to 1.7 (the score is around 700). The phone does not crash though. People keep saying that this doesn't matter, but I have to disagree. As I am running Quadrant, I can visibly see the test animations are choppy and the FPS are much slower for each given test. Also, the database writes are taking longer. This would explain such a poor Quadrant score.
So... my questions are:
Is Quadrant just not optimized for a dual core processor? Why would it run so smooth stock, but then get all choppy when OC'd?
Maybe there is something off with the OC part of the kernels? I've tried both Silverneedle and RCMIX. Both give me the same results.
I've tried SetCPU with poor results. Then I uninstalled it and just used Viper's built in Daemon. Same poor results.
Do I have an inferior processor that can't be OC'd to even 1.5? My understanding of this chip is that it is actually a 1.5ghz chip that is being underclocked by HTC from the factory.
Sorry for being lengthy, but I've read through so many posts, and I'm tired of reading that "benchmarks don't mean sh*t".
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Alright let me explain...
First you need to keep in mind that the kernels are in their beta stages. I had a quadrant score an 800, but my phone operates fine and plays games fine. Some of these kernels have the multiplier intervals wrong. I can get into that if you need me to, but anyways, on forth. There is a possibility that the CPUs on the EVO are actually lower binned chips. Now why do I say this? Because it has come to mind that overclocks vary, but like I said... The kernels are in their beta stages. Ill get in depth if you need me to about the processors and the bins.
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When I make a roaming call it says welcome to Verizon you are calling fron an invalid number please call your customer service also my data works
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OK heres a dopey question from a dopey chef.
Right now I have twrp recovery and its cool but I'm stuck in old ways. Can I download Rom manager and flash cwm over twrp? And if it does work, there won't be any issues? I know everyone.... twrp smokes cwm but that's what I'm used to. Then again.... if all the devs go with twrp then I should stay with twrp right? And blah blah blah? Lol
Thanks in advance.
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OK heres a dopey question from a dopey chef.
Right now I have twrp recovery and its cool but I'm stuck in old ways. Can I download Rom manager and flash cwm over twrp? And if it does work, there won't be any issues? I know everyone.... twrp smokes cwm but that's what I'm used to. Then again.... if all the devs go with twrp then I should stay with twrp right? And blah blah blah? Lol
Thanks in advance.
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No problem with flashing CWM within Rom Manager, just make sure you have quick boot disabled under your options (phone options that is) or when you boot the recover (since quick boot doesnt shut the phone all the way down) you will still see TWRP... TWRP owns though, just with the compress nandroid alone.
Konfuzion said:
I read from the devs that flashing OTA are safe since the exploit is via the radio. Think your wrong on this one, but its never a bad idea to be safe and check here before you accept an OTA.
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We're sorta both right. I would just hate to see someone trust an OTA, like the one when they make the bootloader, which could lockdown the whole phone, no root, who knows. It's safer to wait, like we both said
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So i have EvilEris on my phone atm and it works great i have it OCed at 768 but i see some people have their phones over clocked at higher speeds. Is there something im missing because whenever i try to put it higher my phone just restarts. If theres anything i have to do please point me in that direction. I know i run the risk of it overheating but i like to push the boundaries a little bit, Thanks in advance
The thing with overclocking is that not all phones are created equal. Not every processor can handle running at 806 or so and then some can all day without breaking a sweat. This goes with pretty much most electronic things. With that being said, there are always a couple of things to play with to try and max it out. Do you have JIT enabled? I understand that can make a difference on some phones as it is not entirely stable with everything. Also, personally, I could not OC to 806 till I started running Froyo roms. I have tried 4 different ones (and have stayed with CELB 1.4) all while hitting 806 without it even heating up as much as when I ran 768 on 2.1 roms. Really though, just because your phone is turned up as much as possible, doesn't mean it will automatically be faster. Some report no differences between, say, 710 and 768 on their phones. So, just like when you drink too much (me, last night lol) and your liver says no more and you hurl everywhere, your phone turns off saying no more when you push it too hard. Hope this makes sense somewhat...lol
The reason overclocking exists is because chips are shipped at a lower level when they actually can functiona t a higher level. Processing has to do with the wafers on the chip and there's no way to garauntee the exact number you'll get per chip so they just find the minimum number and ship all of the chips under that minimum number. This means some lucky people get chips capable of going way higher and some people get chips that can't handle that speed.
Im not familiar with JIT, not sure what it is. Would that possibly do anything to maybe get my processor running higher? Will it work on EvilEris? Yeah i know theres really no difference in the speeds that much but i just like to push it a little higher for fun lol, i just like to have my gadgets running at their best possible specs
I'm not sure if it'll run on Evil Eris but you can look for a thread by jcase called Universal JIT update and try it out. It isn't very stable though, especially on Sense ROMs. However if you change your Dalvik Heap to 24m I've heard it helps. It doesn't really speed up your processor, just the way your phone handles things. I've noticed a difference with it enabled. As for what it is well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation
I used Universal JIT with my Evil Eris. Don't bother, it "speeds things up" in some sense but it's really not worth it. Mflops nearly double but that literally means nothing other than your mflops are doubled.
Hmm, it looks interesting. Im going to look into it a little more and see if its worth it or not. Ill probly use it for future roms like Froyos when they get working flash(Only reason im staying with 2.1 roms atm). Thanks for the info on it
just for reference, my phone will lock up at any settings over 710. Droid Kevlar's phone is OC'd at 806!
my phone kicks all sorts of ass at 710 so I am happy. I think we all get obsessed and when this phone takes over your life (like it did mine) you start to seek out better and better performance when its already good enough as is (assuming you're rooted)
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just for reference, my phone will lock up at any settings over 710. Droid Kevlar's phone is OC'd at 806!
my phone kicks all sorts of ass at 710 so I am happy. I think we all get obsessed and when this phone takes over your life (like it did mine) you start to seek out better and better performance when its already good enough as is (assuming you're rooted)
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Exactly, Im happy that i have it set to 768 because i dont have to deal with that tiny lag that always annoyed me before i rooted my phone. Once i got setcpu i saw the difference and wanted to try to push a little more. I bought setcpu instead of getting it for free because i wanted to give back in a sort of way. But im happy with it, i have no problems with anything as long as i have a good rom on it
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Exactly, Im happy that i have it set to 768 because i dont have to deal with that tiny lag that always annoyed me before i rooted my phone. Once i got setcpu i saw the difference and wanted to try to push a little more. I bought setcpu instead of getting it for free because i wanted to give back in a sort of way. But im happy with it, i have no problems with anything as long as i have a good rom on it
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i suffer from the grass is always greener syndrome, which in this case means + the next rom is always faster syndrome.
I should be happy with my rooted phone and I am. But still I read the forum and think wonder what Kaos Froyo is like?
Yeah I get that too lol I tried almost every Rom except the ones that I didn't like the themes
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Kosuda14 said:
Hmm, it looks interesting. Im going to look into it a little more and see if its worth it or not. Ill probly use it for future roms like Froyos when they get working flash(Only reason im staying with 2.1 roms atm). Thanks for the info on it
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Froyo comes with JIT, and a different JIT that's much better.
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Froyo comes with JIT, and a different JIT that's much better.
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Really...it seems there a lot more I have to learn about this before I do anything because now I might start using kaos froyo. Also I heard/read google was making froyo faster because of flash so maybe the UI is faster also?
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Froyo is basically a 2.1 update, so imagine 2.1 but reworked to be faster. They basically streamlined 2.1 completely and made it use a compiler to speed things up. I won't get into how compilers work but basically they can/will slow everything down unless things are streamlined for them. That's why on 2.1 JIT can be a nuisance but sometimes quite nice, depending on when/ what it is being used for. On 2.2 everything is pretty much made for JIT so it's all quite a lot smoother/ faster.
I personally use tazz Cyanogenmod 6. I've tried every froyo ROM at least once (there aren't too many lol) but this is by farrrrr my favorite.
Hmm well when I get sober ill have to try this jit out but I'm way too wasted to flash a rom atm, I'm lucky I have auto correct on my phone or it'd be all gibberish
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Alright - I'm not the type to ask questions if I haven't done hours of research already. Please do not tell me to google it, look harder, etc. Some of this stuff has frustrated me to no end, and some of you may be able to answer the question off the top of your head. So why not help out, right? ^^.
I did take a lot of time writing these questions out, and I know that it is quote a long read. If you only want to answer one here and there, that is fine. I GREATLY appreciate all help. If I sound mad at all during the read, please excuse that. If anything I'm a little frustrated, but definitely not mad at anyone or anything. I just want answers.
My Device:
3D with Silverlight/Netarchy-5 as the Kernel, and Synergy Rev. 316 2.3.3 as my Rom. So far, I have only been able to get a max quadrant score of 2600. Sort of disappointing compared to my last kernel/rom build, especially when I saw all the good Quadrant scores on Synergy's thread (and yes, I tested Ziggy's Stock Kernel too that came with it, but with no change in Quadrant scores).
I want to stick to 2.3.3 until they have overclocking for 2.3.4.
My old Kernel + Rom build was the RCMIX Kernel that could OC to 2050, and the Shooter Rewind 3D ROM. With this set-up, I was able to get a Quadrant score of 3,660.
Unanswered Questions (Or Questions I am still confused on):
2) In the Kernel threads, I always try to find which one will provide the best performance. I have a 4500 mah battery, so I usually can make almost anything last 2+ days for me. However, I'm not sure how to compare Kernels and determine what is better. This is what is listed under RCMIX:
V(R) I/O
SLQB
WIFI FIX
CIFS
TUN
NLS
WIMAX SUPPORT
Wifi Tweak to connect a weaker signal -108db over stock -88db
Under Silverneedle, the other one I think of using, it says:
- CIFS
- TUN
- Overclock up to 1.7ghz (this will likely be expanded in future builds)
- JHash3
- The usual assortment of build tweaks that those familiar with my previous work have come to expect
- Base updated to 2.6.35.14
HOW am I supposed to compare those two performance wise? Also, what does "TUN," "NLS," "V(R) I/O," and "SLQB," "JHash3," "CIFS," etc, mean? I'm assuming WIMAX is for 4g, but I'm not even entirely sure of that.
3) EXT4. I read the thread here, but a lot isn't explained. It says "You should only need to convert to ext4 optimized if you wipe data/nandroid" - is this just system data? I'm assuming it wouldn't wipe SD Card Data, correct? So basically it is like a Factory Reset? But then it says to flash "svn rev 450 or higher" after. Where would I get the Synergy's revised 450 version when I can only get the rev 316 version myself?
5) Virtuous OC MOD. Oh yes - this has probably given me the most trouble than anything. I used to use SetCPU. When I saw that Mod, I uninstalled it, installed virtuous, and it didn't work. I couldn't edit my files via terminal emulator given su permissions, via root explorer, anything. So I thought there was a conflict through some file left by setcpu and virtuous. SO I did a factory reset.
I then installed rev 316 synergy and RCMIX 4.2 with a 1.8ghz allowable OC on it, and also flashed the virtuous oc + dual core mod. First off, I have no clue what the difference is between DualCore VOC and DualCore 1.1 besides the fact that he said 1.1 solved some lag issue some were experiencing. So I installed that, naturally. Saw nothing change whatsoever. I then tried to edit my Virtuous OC files, which was a success! However, when I ran the command "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq" - which is in his thread to determine if it is working, it showed the unedited number.
So I then did a normal reboot, in hopes it needed init.d to trigger, and I got stuck in an infinite reboot.
Lastly, I installed rev 316 by synergy again with silverneedle/netarchy 5 kernel. And that's where I am now. What did I do wrong?
6) Chainfire 3D / Turbo 3D (can't find link atm, but each are from the same creator). Will this help quadrant scores? What is this used for? Is it helpful?
8) What's the point of the V6 Supercharger for Android? How does it improve memory? Does it do the same thing as far as EXT4 is concerned? Is it already implemented in the current roms/kernels?
9) Besides my questions, is there a kernel or rom that you suggest for the best speed/performance, and why?
10) As far as Dual Core goes, as it been more bad than good? I've seen a lot of posts about people lagging with it on. Does it actually help?
11) Without any Dual Core mod on, what does the second CPU normally do anyways? Why would anyone make a dual-core phone without utilizing both dual cores? Or did we lose the dual core availability when we rooted our phones, and we are just now getting some beta beginnings of it back?
Thanks for anyone's time who reads any part of this, and thanks in advance to those who can answer some of them too.
Questions Answered (Thanks for those that helped!!):
If you believe there is more that could have been said in an answer, or that an answer is wrong feel free to add-on! Otherwise, I'm satisfied with the answers I have received and believe them to be right.
1) I've read through the Synergy thread, mostly the beginning and ending pages, and people talk about Revisions that are better than other (obviously). I just hooked up my SVN File Updater for the Nightly Updates, so would I not have access to anything later than Rev 316, but older than the current 2.3.4 version? I really would like to have access to the latest 2.3.3 build that works the best, which would probably include the EXT4.
1-Answer by life64x) 318 is the latest 2.3.3 and the last 2.3.3. Since they upgraded to 2.3.4
4) Let's say I backup my entire system apps + data using Titanium. Does that mean after I Wipe/Reset and go to a different rom/kern, or sense to aosp, that if I restored EVERYTHING, it would still work? Or should I only restore the things I "essentially" need?
4-Answer by life64x) Not all your system apps will be restored...sense...sense widgets etc. Data yes.. user apps will be restored. | I then asked "So titanium won't restore things incompatible with the ROM I am on, even if I hit restore all?" | Answer by life64x: That's correct becuase sometimes it won't let you...say different versions of rosie.apk or framework stuff that deals with sense UI.
7) What is "Cyanogen?" I don't understand if that is a type of software, group of people, or what the purpose of whatever that word is.
7-Answer by life64x and phatmanxxl)Cyanogen is the handle of a person that created a alternate android OS..away from manufacture stock software that is smaller and faster...bloateware removed, basic android is there. Cyanogen is also the name of the product from them. I forgot his name, but he developed a alternate source open source I might add for our phones and now tablets. Many phones have it and each phone has developers for it also. ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
Q. 4. Not all your system apps will be restored...sense...sense widgets etc. Data yes.. user apps will be restored.
Q. 7. Cyanogen is the handle of a person that created a alternate android OS..away from manufacture stock software that is smaller and faster...bloateware removed, basic android is there. Cyanogen is also the name of the product from them. I forgot his name, but he developed a alternate source open source I might add for our phones and now tablets. Many phones have it and each phone has developers for it also.
I am at lunch at work now and possibly later others will give the rest or when I get home from work I will try to do more. You have quite a bit and this thread will also help others.
life64x said:
Q. 4. Not all your system apps will be restored...sense...sense widgets etc. Data yes.. user apps will be restored.
Q. 7. Cyanogen is the handle of a person that created a alternate android OS..away from manufacture stock software that is smaller and faster...bloateware removed, basic android is there. Cyanogen is also the name of the product from them. I forgot his name, but he developed a alternate source open source I might add for our phones and now tablets. Many phones have it and each phone has developers for it also.
I am at lunch at work now and possibly later others will give the rest or when I get home from work I will try to do more. You have quite a bit and this thread will also help others.
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Thanks for the information, I appreciate it a lot. So titanium won't restore things incompatible with the ROM I am on, even if I hit restore all?
That's correct becuase sometimes it won't let you...say different versions of rosie.apk or framework stuff that deals with sense UI.
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That's correct becuase sometimes it won't let you...say different versions of rosie.apk or framework stuff that deals with sense UI.
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Awesome. That answers that. Going back to cm7, is it mostly used for tablets? I don't see it for the 3d.
Diabetic said:
Awesome. That answers that. Going back to cm7, is it mostly used for tablets? I don't see it for the 3d.
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ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
Q. 1. 318 is the latest 2.3.3 and the last 2.3.3. Since they upgraded to 2.3.4
Q.6. Don't worry about chain fire, unless you are a gamer. Regarding quadrant, it is crap. If you insist on going by it, take it with a grain off salt. Try other testing methods.
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ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
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Try VirusROM. It's a pretty good little AOSP ROM with some of those CM7 features like changeable desktop size, drawer size, custom rosie/launcher, custom animations.
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ASOP ROMs such as CM7 and MIUI are not available for the EVO3d yet, they are still in development.
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Ah - got it. So CM7 and MIUI are for original AOSP then? According to some threads, it is getting close. Should be interesting to watch. Thanks ^^.
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Q. 1. 318 is the latest 2.3.3 and the last 2.3.3. Since they upgraded to 2.3.4
Q.6. Don't worry about chain fire, unless you are a gamer. Regarding quadrant, it is crap. If you insist on going by it, take it with a grain off salt. Try other testing methods.
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Ah, I suppose I just read those posts wrong in that thread. I assumed that the 2.3.4 version started near revision 500. Definitely a bummer. I tried their latest 2.3.4 version just to see what it was like and it is much cleaner than the 2.3.3 rev 318 version. Guess I'll wait for an OC on 2.3.4 to go back to Synergy Sense.
As for "other testing methods" - what would you recommend? Anything in specific?
And what do you mean by "gamer." What would qualify as a "gamer" for HTC 3D? For example, I do play Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time on my phone ^^. It ran fine on RCMIX 2.2.3 and Rewind Shooter as long as I used SetCPU to 1728 max and 1080 min (or higher min, depending on if I had any problems). Haven't tried on my latest setup though.
Thanks again for your help!
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Try VirusROM. It's a pretty good little AOSP ROM with some of those CM7 features like changeable desktop size, drawer size, custom rosie/launcher, custom animations.
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I actually just flashed that yesterday night and am loving how much free RAM space I have. Currently have 305MB used and 497MB free. I love having extra space. I have a few problems with it, but nothing worth complaining over really. Stock Kernel that comes with it is probably best, right? Thanks for helping =-).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659&page=33
Use the dual core kernel less heat=save battery with performance increase by taking off the load on a single processor
First I really want to thank all developers for their hard work. These are problems that I am having and by no means does this mean that I feel like someone didn't already do a great job.
What is going on with 2.3.4?
Linpack went down, 3d performance went down, proper cpu management went to crap and beyond (at least for me).
I went back to 2.3.3 and every bench is higher. Went back on 2.3.4 to check and fair enough it's true.
How come we started with 2.3.3 and made it fast and now that we are on 2.3.4 we have learned so much from it and yet we cannot really make it faster then 2.3.3.
I have 2 EVO's one with hboot 1.4 and one with hboot 1.5 both with s-off that i have tried this on.
Can someone please enlighten me on this? Do i need to swap my phones? We removed logging and with all that the phone seem sluggish.
I know Quadrant doesn't matter, but to see 3d stuff lagging on every oc kernel on 2.3.4 is sad to say the least.
Take your own advice.
To OP, I haven't noticed that to be honest, 2.3.4 seems faster and more efficient than 2.3.3.
I don't know about the lagging on the OC kernal though, hopefully someone can post about their experiences with that.
Edit: I'm planning on installing a Stock OC kernal, is that what you're having problems with, a stock that can be overclocked?
dont complain unless you are sitting behind a computer writing code. that's all im trying to say.
it's tiring to see thread after useless thread complaining about something retarded. i'm sure a lot of the dev's appreciate that....
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Take your own advice.
To OP, I haven't noticed that to be honest, 2.3.4 seems faster and more efficient than 2.3.3.
I don't know about the lagging on the OC kernal though, hopefully someone can post about their experiences with that.
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Thank you for posting. I just wanted to know if it's my phone.
Devs have done amazing thing with the 3VO and i really appreciate them. I probably just have bad hardware.
well maybe not... all bull crap aside let's try to work this out...
are you running any custom roms right now? mods? what do you have done to your phone currently? by sluggish, do you mean like EVERY task you perform, large or small, is choppy to the point where you can barely use it?
I have hboot 1.5 unlocked with s-on.. i have use both 2.3.3 and 2.3.4 roms.. to be honest 2.3.4 benchmark for me are much higher and runs better as well.. Well thats just me...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158951
That can probably be done with this phone since it uses the same chipset as the E3D and Sensation. Once I get mine next tuesday/wednesday ill see what I can do about getting this module to work.
If anyone takes a look at it, post anything you have tried. This could in theory at the very least allow an undervolt which would help offset the LTE power sucking.
Yeah see I wwas talking about this earlier. I think this will work. I PMed viperboy who actually wrote one of the bloatware scripts when we had temproot. Just waiting for a response AMD hope to get a jump start on this. Good idea starting this thread tho
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Yeah see I wwas talking about this earlier. I think this will work. I PMed viperboy who actually wrote one of the bloatware scripts when we had temproot. Just waiting for a response AMD hope to get a jump start on this. Good idea starting this thread tho
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Coming from the bravoc which has almost zero development aside from 2fast at his site I am used to just thinking of things to try. I was able to port a couple dinc roms to it even though I was told it couldn't be done. I hope to be much more involved with development here since there are already more posts in this section than there were in a year at the site dedicated to the bravoc
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Coming from the bravoc which has almost zero development aside from 2fast at his site I am used to just thinking of things to try. I was able to port a couple dinc roms to it even though I was told it couldn't be done. I hope to be much more involved with development here since there are already more posts in this section than there were in a year at the site dedicated to the bravoc
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Yeah I.hear ya. I.haven't gotten much Involved myself buy then again I'm no dev LOL. But I k.ow my way around a bit. But I think the dev section is gonna he hoppin as well.
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It took a few days to get that inc port almost bugfree (usb pc transfer wouldn't work) but it was otherwise fine iirc. I hope that with support and other work to use as examples i can make some stuff for this device that isn't either a variation of AOSP or a sense port that has some serious drawbacks.
I am personally more interested in the possibility of underclocking and undervolting than OCing. Or maybe OCing and undervolting like I did with my droid x - can really help save some battery and allow the phone to sip less juice. This phone is so new I am getting ahead of myself, but hopefully in time we can get root/roms/OCing and undervolting apps to work on the Rezound.
I normally run my battery on performance mode on all my phones. I set it to normal, and with the equivalent usage I get 1/3 better battery life. I even leave all my antenna's on(except WiFi when I am away).
Just to let everyone know what I tried. I took the file for "unsupported phones" from the link's thread and changed the version number to match the rezound, which is -- 2.6.35.13-g20c5d1d -- . As you can see it was not just the ending part starting with the 'g' that needed to be changed as ours is 2.6.35.13 and the file was made for 2.6.35.10. But since a reboot resets everything I tried it by changing only the part starting with 'g' and it failed saying "Exec format error". So I then changed the entire version string to match ours and adb actually completed the task but the phone rebooted immediately and everything was wiped out again.
I did this before the kernel source was put up on the forums but since I dont have ANY knowledge of messing with kernels I am no help there, but hopefully this can help someone get this mod going for the Rezound.
we don't have perma root like the 3vo did so I don't think this will work until then. But this was a band aid until the kernel source was released so this won't even be necessary anymore.
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we don't have perma root like the 3vo did so I don't think this will work until then. But this was a band aid until the kernel source was released so this won't even be necessary anymore.
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The guy who made Setcpu made a script that allowed oc on the stock kernel on the 3D. It was before perm root. It was right after agrabren found the first exploit and a reboot would return the phone to stock. You temp rooted ran the script from adb and used Setcpu to oc.. Some of the smoothest kernel action the 3D had.. I'm sure same thing is potentially there, just need someone smart enough to do..
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send me a link. Ill take a look at the script.
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The guy who made Setcpu made a script that allowed oc on the stock kernel on the 3D. It was before perm root. It was right after agrabren found the first exploit and a reboot would return the phone to stock. You temp rooted ran the script from adb and used Setcpu to oc.. Some of the smoothest kernel action the 3D had.. I'm sure same thing is potentially there, just need someone smart enough to do..
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Yeah I rememba that man. I was just talking about that the other day. I also mentioned that maybe we can use that somehow but I wouldn't know where TP start. But we need a stable Temp Root first I think. Not degrading anyone's work either.
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send me a link. Ill take a look at the script.
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It will take me a little time to find. I don't think I have the script on sd anymore and the thread is buried deep. I shall go look.
Edit: ironically easier than I thought to find. Here is the thread from the 3D forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158951
And I know for a fact this worked and worked well. I used for a while, well up until we were s-off..
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sooooooo set cpu works with root....i made a profile for screen off. seems to be working.....
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sooooooo set cpu works with root....i made a profile for screen off. seems to be working.....
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Cool. I did find a tidbit that might (don't get your hopes up and basically pretend I didn't even say this) make root last longer. Obviously until I have my rezound for the next few days I can't even think about testing anything.
Then put it out there for us to test! Don't be selfish! lol
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Then put it out there for us to test! Don't be selfish! lol
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I will once I get around to writing it. I am in class right now then I am driving 5 hours home. So maybe tomorrow afternoon Ill get a script working. Also, I may have figured out a way to disable elements of sense in an automated script(for those that don't like sense).
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It took a few days to get that inc port almost bugfree (usb pc transfer wouldn't work) but it was otherwise fine iirc. I hope that with support and other work to use as examples i can make some stuff for this device that isn't either a variation of AOSP or a sense port that has some serious drawbacks.
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Since I happened to venture to theses parts since our buddy plat ventured to this. I am a bit surprised to see you switched. How ever the module you are talking about in the op I am pretty sure you can't just hex edit the kernel version. As the kernel will be different for the device compared to that of the evo 3d. If it is anything like doing the g2 version for the htc merge that is. Where it had to be recompiled to work correctly.
I am sure one of the dev's familiar in here with building source code could get it done up. If it works after that I am unsure. Though con you ported the sense hd rom from the inc to the desire. That was the only one that you had ported. Followed by you followed samuel2706's guide and other info he gave you. Then you came to me to ask how I fixed the mms and verizon branding in the rom. In which I told you how to fix it but you put it off as you fixed it. As you are putting off in here.
I'm on the fence here guys and need some either reassurance or confirmation of my fears/concerns.
Let me start by saying i'm borderline pissed off that I pay for a Sprint contract and yet VM is getting ICS possibly far before Sprints EVO 3d...This is a large driving force behind wanting to root.
So anyways here are my concerns..
-It's a VM build...does this cause adverse affects?? Lower priority?? ETC??
-I Roam most of the time and use a custom PRL. Is this possible with the ICS ROMS??
-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS. I'm not including app incompatibility here...more or less saying everything working that would work if we had an official ICS release.
Additional questions..not really concerns..
-Is there any roms currently with Sense 4.0 that are fully functional as This would be nice considering we'll never see it officially.
-Can I get better performance??
Lastly, If I do decide to root where do I start...I see tutorials but they say from hboot such and such etc..however I have no idea what I have on my phone to know what tutorial to use...I just got it 2 months ago, and i've fully OTA updated it. I came from an optimus v to sprint evo 3d...I had my optimus rooted and had custom roms on it.
I say Root, but I always root my phones.
You need to find out what hboot you are on, take back cover off, remove battery, put battery back in, cover back on, then hold power and down volume rocker. You will get to a white screen and it will tell you which hboot you have. Since you say you have OTA updated, you are likely on 1.5.
You should go through the downgrade process to get you on 1.4 which will allow full s-off and be the simplest route for flashing firmware/ROM's.
I have been using the VM ICS leaks since they came out and the Dev's did their
thing on them and I haven't had anything not work. I am using MeanROM ICS and Mike keeps it updated pretty regularly.
Whatever you do, do not install the VM firmware file you may see posted. It is unnecessary and will likely cause issues.
There are no ROM's that have fully working Sense 4.0 + ICS + all other items(3D Wimax).
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-I want EVERYTHING to work still...I do not want to comprimise things not working for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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I do recommend you root. The custom roms beat the snot out of the stock.
As long as you use a Sense based ics Rom, everything works. I take 3d pics and video and just watched a 3d YouTube video just to check.
While they are not yet as refined as the Gb roms, everything works.
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Two biggest benefits of rooting regardless of the phone:
1) Full system backups in recovery.
2) The ability to remove all carrier crapware.
Now, there are several other benefits, such as upgrading to more updated ROMs that will eventually not be available for this phone (it will never officially receive Android 5.0 or Sense 4.0).
As for fully functional, I'm running the Booster Shot port with Sense 3.6. Silky smooth and fully functional, including 3D.
If you choose to root, fully read and understand the process so you don't brick your phone. Get your HBOOT versions (mentioned in a previous post in this thread) and root accordingly.
Definitely boost in performance even if you don't go with ICS. I compared my rooted 3d with my roomates 3d and my 3d runs so much faster it seems like it isn't even the same phone.
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I would recommend root, since you have a lot of options to choose different ROMs.
No Sense 4.0 ROM is working correctly. There are issues with 3d and with call drops, what is more important I think Anyway, most ROMs using Sense 3.6 run ok.
I also have the benefit of having daily contact with my rooted evo vs my girlfriends not rooted evo... Mine phone is way faster at everything.... Even before I went to meanrom ics....
The difference is night vs day...
If you really want to see the performance of your phone, the way it should be most definetly Root it.
I haven't done it myself but I'm 100% positive google will find you a list of benefits from obtaining root...
And btw even tho its a little weird and in beta my favorite thing about ics is google chrome... It's just an awesome phone browser, just what stands out in my mind atm.. ask me tomorrow and ill prolly say something different.
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If your on the fence, don't do it. If your going to commit to modding your phone, you have to know 100% what you're up against. For most, that's bricking your phone in a certain way so you can downgrade it. Than getting the hboot down through a tool in a LINUX distro. Than going through ruu than using revolutionary. And lastly flashing a recovery. It's not difficult
As long as you know what you are up against.
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My two cents:
Root it.
Backup your stock system, flash an ICS rom. If you don't like it, simply restore back to the original setting. You can still add tweaks and goodies not available to the non-rooted.
The beauty of being rooted is it's yours, totally yours, too make how you want it.
Root, root, root!
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another vote for root.
zcink said:
If you want EVERYTHING to work, do NOT go with an ICS rom at this time.
They are still working on all the bugs. Camera issues. 3D issues.
3D is important to me. That's why I bought this phone. Some videos won't play in 3D, some 3D games won't work in ICS and 3D you tube videos will not work in ICS. (at least that is the last I read).
I'm staying with GB for now until I'm sure all the bugs are worked out and everything works. It may never happen.
I feel the same way. I don't want to compromise anything for ICS.
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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exactly...every sense based rom is fully functional with 3d also...this is a one way street to root....root...backup your rom...flash...any chance you don't like you can always return to your previous state...unrooted...since there are no drawbacks except the fact that you have to setup all over again at a new rom, can't see a reason not to....with these guys here after all it's child play to root and to reverse it so no worries...
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What are you talking about? 3D works fully and smoothly (Even better than Gingerbread)
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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I think you are correct on Sprint roms, however that's not what I'm reading on GSM roms. I'm constantly reading and paying attention to the bugs people complain about.
When I'm confident that everything works, I will definitely flash a ICS rom.
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OP's original question to root or not to root. That is the question.
I say YES! Root by all means. Because he is on Sprint CDMA network. Lots of good roms there. By all means root and enjoy the phone.
Absolutely!
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Yeah, I guess you're right. I'm only on sprint roms.
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm still debating this though mainly because i'm wondering if there would be benifit to waiting till the official spring ics comes and then letting devs release some roms based on that one instead of the virgin mobile one.
I'm thinking then we could flash the sprint firmware and possibly that updated firmware would be a plus, to performance.
Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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Also...I see that I would likely have to downgrade to Hboot 1.4. Is there a performance/feature hit in doing so?
I guess its not really a question of if I do it anymore but when...before or after official sprint ics OTA.
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No performance hit as far as I can tell. With the custom roms, my performance has vastly improved.
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Ok, so I just checked and I'm on hboot 1.5. Fully stock, fully updated as stated. Can someone point me to the threads and steps I need to take to do this?
Edit: I'm only asking for verification on steps/threads to use as I do not want to mess up and use an outdated tutorial or something and f up my phone. I just want to take every precaution to ensure I do not end up with a brick, and I follow the exact steps Needed for my situation. Not trying to make anyone angry that I'm asking for something I could search for...I just trust you guys to point me to where i need to be more than i do myself searching the correct tutorial for my situation.
Also when on the optimus v i used clockwork mod recovery...I'm assuming this isn't the recovery to use for this phone? And also this five minute wait to edit my post is frustrationg >< lol.
All you need to do is go into the development threads and read. I'm 59 years old for Christ sake, and figured out how to root my phone by reading the first few "stickied" posts. Took all of 15 minutes to get hboot 1.5 removed and hboot 1.4 with s-off installed.
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Well yeah, Not to flame you but the amount of time you've been thinking about doing it and getting advise if you should or not, I would think you'd be doing some reading on how to do it.
If you get stuck, there's plenty of people to help you out.
Just make sure you know enough first so you are confident in doing it.