Hello all,
I'm currently up for a new upgrade from my Iphone 3gs on AT&T and I have been doing some mucho reading on the Samsung Galaxy S2. I have even almost ordered one from newegg.com but did not when I learned that my carrier MIGHT have one out with the name of the Attain sometime in August.
Problem is I don't know if I'm better off getting an unlocked version of this masterpiece of a phone or waiting for the AT&T version. What should I do? I'm so confused I'm beating my head against the wall on this one.
Thank you so much.
AJ
Thank you for getting rid of Iphone
That kind of questions you are the only one who can make the right decision. Don't depend too much on what others would buy.
I would love to have the phone now but I read about how there are screen problems and how the U.S. Version will have a better audio chip. Is all of this true? I don't make much money and that's a lot of dough for a phone. Plus with Newegg there is no real warranty and I can't just take it into the store.
asjdwf said:
Hello all,
I'm currently up for a new upgrade from my Iphone 3gs on AT&T and I have been doing some mucho reading on the Samsung Galaxy S2. I have even almost ordered one from newegg.com but did not when I learned that my carrier MIGHT have one out with the name of the Attain sometime in August.
Problem is I don't know if I'm better off getting an unlocked version of this masterpiece of a phone or waiting for the AT&T version. What should I do? I'm so confused I'm beating my head against the wall on this one.
Thank you so much.
AJ
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Some things to think about:
- AT&T's version was first rumored to have a keyboard, then not, then it was said AT&T's going to get both. So god knows what they'll end up with. Regardless, it'll be molested, have AT&T demanded hardware and software changes and you'll be forever dependent on AT&T for updates.
- The international version is as Samsung intended and you'll receive updates (which have been frequent) from them. Also, you can use it on the unlimited data for Non-Smartphones plan and get fake-4G speeds for $10-15 a month.
- The AT&T version will support LTE making it faster as their network rolls out over the next 18 months. LTE is expensive, has no roaming capabilities, and sucks battery.
- The international version comes with a two year Samsung warranty if you buy it from an authorized reseller in the country of origin (EG: UK) or from Expansys-USA. Otherwise you're on your own. You can get a SquareTrade warranty for $94 for two years but that doesn't include loss or theft. If it breaks (in or out of warranty) you have to send it overseas to be repaired leaving you without it for two weeks. Obviously, AT&T's would be fully covered.
- If you want the international version you can do a couple of things. Instead of getting another subsidized phone, you can convert your contract to a SIM-only plan which means you can terminate at any time you want without penalty. You could also go subsidized again as some point in the future if you get bored with the SGS2, sell it on eBay, and get whatever premium phone AT&T's offering at the time.
- You could re-up your contract and get an iP4 or Infuse and sell it on eBay for between $400-500 and apply that to the price of an international SGS2. With the additional data for Non-Smartphone savings the international SGS2 would eventually pay for itself.
Good luck...
asjdwf said:
I would love to have the phone now but I read about how there are screen problems and how the U.S. Version will have a better audio chip. Is all of this true? I don't make much money and that's a lot of dough for a phone. Plus with Newegg there is no real warranty and I can't just take it into the store.
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The screen problems effect a minority of phones and the U.S. versions will use the same screens as Samsung manufactures all their own displays. I highly doubt they'd change the audio chip from one market to another on what's essentially the same phone. If you're concerned about price, go with what AT&T ends up offering. It'll be safer and you won't have to pay expensive shipping or for out of pocket repairs if you buy one without a warranty.
I am in the same position that you are. I am waiting to see what AT&T is going to do. I am getting real bored with the iphone 3gs. Hopefully they will come out with this phone this month.
This is where I read about the audio chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1069259.html
What is LTE? Is is faster than 3G? Do I need it? I thought the SGS2 was faster than my 3gs. If I get the unlocked version it won't be LTE? I'm confused. Sorry just so new to this smartphone stuff. I mean the REAL smartphone (NON APPLE) stuff.
Also, what is the time line for AT&T to release there phone? Anyone have an idea?
Thank you.
LTE= 4G?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GPP_Long_Term_Evolution
Or something something...
asjdwf said:
This is where I read about the audio chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1069259.html
What is LTE? Is is faster than 3G? Do I need it? I thought the SGS2 was faster than my 3gs. If I get the unlocked version it won't be LTE? I'm confused. Sorry just so new to this smartphone stuff. I mean the REAL smartphone (NON APPLE) stuff.
Also, what is the time line for AT&T to release there phone? Anyone have an idea?
Thank you.
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LTE, Long term evolution, the tech beyond "3G"
the SGS2 supports HSDPA and HSUPA, high speed Uplink/Downlink packet access, this is what most US carriers are calling "4G", when in fact its actually 3.5G.
In the SGS2 it can do upto 21mbps down and 6mbps up if the network supports it.
LTE uses even more battery than H does over 3G does over G.
In the long term, yeh, you want it, for the next 2-3 years, you should be fine with H/H+.
And goodness knows about the audio, my sgs2 sounds fine and I only got it a few weeks ago
You all know a lot about phones, lol. Is this phone coming out soon in the U.S. on AT&T? Like within the next few weeks? I don't know if I can wait. The 3GS is getting quite boring.
asjdwf said:
This is where I read about the audio chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1069259.html
What is LTE? Is is faster than 3G? Do I need it? I thought the SGS2 was faster than my 3gs. If I get the unlocked version it won't be LTE? I'm confused. Sorry just so new to this smartphone stuff. I mean the REAL smartphone (NON APPLE) stuff.
Also, what is the time line for AT&T to release there phone? Anyone have an idea?
Thank you.
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That link for the audio chip is ancient. The Wolfson DAC was in the original SGS and people thought it would be in the SGS2 also. Especially with the statements made by Wolfson (which were later retracted). Anything's possible but there's nothing to indicate Samsung would change the audio hardware in the phone mid-stream. I use the SGS2 with Shure SE530's, via A2DP in my car, and through a Yamaha YSP4000 via Bluetooth. I think it sounds great - good separation, decent bass, not too bright. But, I'm no audiophile. Some that are were pissed when the Wolfson DAC was replaced by Yamaha. So depending on your ears/needs YMMV.
Yeah I am not stressing too much over the audio to tell you the truth. I am just worrying about having to wait too long for it to be released.
a bunch of good points have been made here. What kind of bloatware does AT&T put on these phones that would make buying it unlocked a better deal?
Also, I just read something about how all the other carriers are renaming their models....what gives?
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Hello, all...
I JUST upgraded from an Aria to an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II. THEN I find out that the next day, I could get a Skyrocket for the same price ($150). I asked the person at the store if the phone had 4g, and she said "yes". I didn't know then the difference between HSPA+ and LTE.
Also, I found out that AT&T is planning on upgrading the Skyrocket to ICS, but not the original S II. This really kind of hacks me off!
Anyway, I only got the phone a couple of days ago, but already I loaded a bunch of apps and spent a day setting it up the way I like it. Is it worth it to take it back to the store and swap it out for a Skyrocket? I live in the St. Louis, MO area, so I don't know when we'd be getting LTE.
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If you don't have LTE, absolutely not. If you do have LTE, maybe.
I just bought a SGSII and live in NYC where they will roll out LTE. I'm not due to the change of hardware and dev support. Seems like this is the place to be.
One thing that has me leaning towards getting this is the beter radio. I believe 700Mhz for data.
The OG SGS2 WILL get ICS also FOR SURE. In fact MOST LIKELY we will have a port of it well before the lte SGS2 due to the i9100 being an unbranded phone and the unbranded phones get WAY MORE OS updates than ANY US phone ever gets.
But as far as getting OFFICIAL ICS I would BET that they both get them at the same timeframe or very close to it. And back to the similarities between the i9100 and i777 not near as much work to change/configure the OS would be needed for the i777 as compared to the needed changes for the i727 lte phone and T-Mobile SGS2 version.
We had the SAME thing with the ATT captivate, the i9000 is close to out i897 captivate but the i9000 got way more updates since it is an international version phone that is unbranded.
The same holds true for the i9100 being unbranded and will get more support for it (just look at how many gingerbread leaks they are already getting/ have gotten) The i777 has already gotten what TWO leaks of upgrades and since the i777 is closer to the i9100 almost exactly. We should benefit from them again.
The i727 lte skyrocket ONLY has a close affilitation with the T-Mobile SGS2 with the same hardware all just a added lte radio on the i727 skyrocket.
So in summary the international version SGS2 has sold at least 10 million phones AROUND THE WORLD and the i777 is almost the same exact phone. So support will always be there.
I expect the i727 sky rocket will end up having support for it also but unless 10 Million or so phones are sold between the ATT lte version and the T-Mobile version the support will be more of a one off type phone.
These are just my humble opinions and basing it on how I saw the ATT Captivate get better support since it was close to the i9000 and how ATT does take a LONG TIME to get out OS upgrades for their android phones. Just look at the captivate i897, it has had leaks of different gingerbreads for quite some time yet they STILL do not have an official gingerbread. So when they get gingerbread our SGS2's will already be ICS. That is just how ATT works.
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RockRatt said:
The OG SGS2 WILL get ICS also FOR SURE. In fact MOST LIKELY we will have a port of it well before the lte SGS2 due to the i9100 being an unbranded phone and the unbranded phones get WAY MORE OS updates than ANY US phone ever gets.
But as far as getting OFFICIAL ICS I would BET that they both get them at the same timeframe or very close to it. And back to the similarities between the i9100 and i777 not near as much work to change/configure the OS would be needed for the i777 as compared to the needed changes for the i727 lte phone and T-Mobile SGS2 version.
We had the SAME thing with the ATT captivate, the i9000 is close to out i897 captivate but the i9000 got way more updates since it is an international version phone that is unbranded.
The same holds true for the i9100 being unbranded and will get more support for it (just look at how many gingerbread leaks they are already getting/ have gotten) The i777 has already gotten what TWO leaks of upgrades and since the i777 is closer to the i9100 almost exactly. We should benefit from them again.
The i727 lte skyrocket ONLY has a close affilitation with the T-Mobile SGS2 with the same hardware all just a added lte radio on the i727 skyrocket.
So in summary the international version SGS2 has sold at least 10 million phones AROUND THE WORLD and the i777 is almost the same exact phone. So support will always be there.
I expect the i727 sky rocket will end up having support for it also but unless 10 Million or so phones are sold between the ATT lte version and the T-Mobile version the support will be more of a one off type phone.
These are just my humble opinions and basing it on how I saw the ATT Captivate get better support since it was close to the i9000 and how ATT does take a LONG TIME to get out OS upgrades for their android phones. Just look at the captivate i897, it has had leaks of different gingerbreads for quite some time yet they STILL do not have an official gingerbread. So when they get gingerbread our SGS2's will already be ICS. That is just how ATT works.
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this is true the one-off thing is HUGE in the dev community.........but there will be some dev support for this skyrocket. coming from the infuse a Dead Dev area after the sgs2 was dropped and VERY slow prior anyway.....so i can wait for a dev to get his hands on it. should happen sooner than later.
There is an international version of the Skyrocket.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
so maybe they will get ICS around the same time as the OGS2.
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If you don't have LTE, absolutely not. If you do have LTE, maybe.
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I personally don't think it's as black and white as you make it appear to be. I think other things like unlimited data (grandfathered) and larger display can make some people feel the change is worth it. Also pricing since many people probably paid $199 for the OG GS2 whereas the SR can be had for $149 in some markets.
I think if you rely heavily on roms and dev support, the SR is not the better choice though... I do like these things myself, but I'm of the belief that we'll get some love eventually.
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I think other things like unlimited data and larger display can make some people feel the change is worth it.
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Since when you get unlimited data with the purchase of Skyrocket?
foxbat121 said:
Since when you get unlimited data with the purchase of Skyrocket?
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He's talking about the grandfathered unlimited data plan that some people still have.
captivatingtab said:
He's talking about the grandfathered unlimited data plan that some people still have.
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No, read what I quoted. He seems to indicate that unlimited data and larger screen are the benefits of the Skyrocket over OGS2.
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There is an international version of the Skyrocket.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
so maybe they will get ICS around the same time as the OGS2.
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Except International version of Skyrocket (Celox) has LTE radio tuned to a completely different frequency...
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He's talking about the grandfathered unlimited data plan that some people still have.
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Yeah, forgot to clarify that. Thanks.
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foxbat121 said:
No, read what I quoted. He seems to indicate that unlimited data and larger screen are the benefits of the Skyrocket over OGS2.
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If that's how you read what I said, my apologies. I updated it to reflect what I meant. Basically those people that still have an unlimited data plan might see a benefit to upgrading since they can use LTE (when available) without the worry of hitting a 2GB data cap quickly. It was simply another thing to consider and one that I thought about which lead me to return my OG GS2 and get the SR.
the2rrell said:
this is true the one-off thing is HUGE in the dev community.........but there will be some dev support for this skyrocket. coming from the infuse a Dead Dev area after the sgs2 was dropped and VERY slow prior anyway.....so i can wait for a dev to get his hands on it. should happen sooner than later.
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Compare that to the still lively Captivate dev community.
That's why I opted for the SGSII.
captivatingtab said:
There is an international version of the Skyrocket.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
so maybe they will get ICS around the same time as the OGS2.
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Difference is, the SGSII has sold probably 15-20million units worldwide (phones based off of the i9100). The LTE version, not even close.
So in the end, I just picked up my brand new SGSII from Bestbuy for $99 It was a tough choice but I prefer the sure bet.
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If that's how you read what I said, my apologies. I updated it to reflect what I meant. Basically those people that still have an unlimited data plan might see a benefit to upgrading since they can use LTE (when available) without the worry of hitting a 2GB data cap quickly. It was simply another thing to consider and one that I thought about which lead me to return my OG GS2 and get the SR.
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I still don't get what you try to say. Are you saying with OG GS2, you can only use 2GB of data even with unlimited data plan? Or are you implying AT&T won't flag your for tethering if you hit 2GB on a LTE phone? If it is later, do you have any proof for that?
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I still don't get what you try to say. Are you saying with OG GS2, you can only use 2GB of data even with unlimited data plan? Or are you implying AT&T won't flag your for tethering if you hit 2GB on a LTE phone? If it is later, do you have any proof for that?
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I'm simply implying that with an LTE device, you're much more likely to move through your allotted 2GB of data on a fixed plan compared to unlimited. It's not really a huge thing as I imagine the high % of users don't even use 2GB but with a faster connection, you're more likely to actually use it and therefore a higher or unlimited cap might be a benefit. That's all I'm saying.
So, after reading these posts, and considering the following points of my phone usage:
I use WiFi more than 3G/HSPA+
I got my phone for $150, price matched at an AT&T store with Sam's Club
I've already installed a bunch of apps and stuff on the phone
I hate spending time in AT&T stores
This i777 will probably have better community support, and I can probably get ICS sooner anyway
Who knows when St. Louis will get LTE
I think I'll just keep the phone I have.
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I'm simply implying that with an LTE device, you're much more likely to move through your allotted 2GB of data on a fixed plan compared to unlimited. It's not really a huge thing as I imagine the high % of users don't even use 2GB but with a faster connection, you're more likely to actually use it and therefore a higher or unlimited cap might be a benefit. That's all I'm saying.
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But unlimited data plan is an inherited right for being old It has nothing to do with the phone of your choice. Less so for choosing one phone over another. I can burn as much data as on OS SGS2 as LTE SGS2 per month if I wanted. Until we see some benchmarks from reputable sources, we don't yet know what's the price to pay for that faster pipe of LTE. If Verizon's LTE phone can be an inidication, you basically burn through your battery juice much quicker than other phones so you get a dead battery early in the day instead of other phones sip through the entire day. In the end, you may use the exact same amount of data. You never know.
Not sure but..... When i am not in my LTE coverage area my download speeds are stilll way faster on my skyrocket than they were on my ogsg2. At the att store where there is no LTE my ogsg2 was get about 2.5 down and the salemans skyrocket was getting over 6 side by side. Might be worth looking into even in non LTE market
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Not sure but..... When i am not in my LTE coverage area my download speeds are stilll way faster on my skyrocket than they were on my ogsg2. At the att store where there is no LTE my ogsg2 was get about 2.5 down and the salemans skyrocket was getting over 6 side by side. Might be worth looking into even in non LTE market
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Yeah I'll add to this as well. I just hit 4.8Mbps this morning and the fastest I could ever reach on my OGSGS2 was 2.8. Probably a fluke but it did catch my eye.
Now that the Note for AT&T is official and we know the specs I wanted to get some opinions on the phone. I have personally been waiting for this phone to come subsidized to AT&T since it was first announced and now that it is finally here, I'm nowhere near as excited as I thought I would be and that all comes down to one thing:Snapdragon.
I know this topic has been debated before and some think it is vastly inferior to the Exynos while others that the difference is negligible but this is my biggest reservation about the AT&T version. I am currently using a Captivate at 1.5ghz running CM9 build 15 and while the phone may be old it is still quite smooth. I went into an AT&T store and played with a Skyrocket to get an idea of how the Note would feel and I was very disappointed. It seemed way more sluggish and unresponsive than my current phone and definitely slower than my friends Exynos powered GSII.
Another problem I foresee with the Snapdragon is the availability of custom roms. Now I may be spoiled with the amount of developers that the I9000 and I897 have had but with the hardware on the AT&T note being different than the international version, that may greatly limit the amount of developers it will receive. This may turn out to be completely false but my favorite part about android are all of the custom roms and if that were to mostly disappear it would be very disappointing for me.
I should also mention that LTE is a complete non-factor when taking this phone into consideration as I currently live in the Detroit area and we probably won't even see LTE in a year at the least.
If anyone would like to share their opinion on anything Note related I would love to hear it.
I too am in the same boat... I couldn't wait until the Note was state side but when I finally read the specs for the AT&T Note I started to loose interest. I have read all kinds of reviews on the skyrocket Vs SGSII / Snapdragon VS Exynos and while they were informative I couldn't help feeling like it's all personal preference. Unfortunately, my preference is leaning Samsung which leaves me with only one option. Buy an unlocked Note!
I also have the ATT captivate with ICS running Doc's rom though and think that's running smooth. (Battery could be better but that's for another thread) and I love how the community has picked up this phone and continue to support it even though it's an older phone.
I guess I'm going to have to wait and see what happens and hope that developers pick up the ATT Note like they have the captivate. Maybe the snapdragon wan't be so bad.
The main reasons I wanted the Note when it was announced:
Big screen
Exynos dual core
NFC
Front camera
8mp rear camera
Stylus
I guess one missing out of six isn't too bad
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I know this topic has been debated before and some think it is vastly inferior to the Exynos while others that the difference is negligible but this is my biggest reservation about the AT&T version. I am currently using a Captivate at 1.5ghz running CM9 build 15 and while the phone may be old it is still quite smooth. I went into an AT&T store and played with a Skyrocket to get an idea of how the Note would feel and I was very disappointed. It seemed way more sluggish and unresponsive than my current phone and definitely slower than my friends Exynos powered GSII.
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I had a Captivate before I got my Inspire, I wish I would have kept it, great phone, just wanted a bigger one. I think the reason it seems sluggish to you is because your Captivate is running CM9, while the Note is running GB with TouchWiz. Big difference there. Remember the difference between stock TW on the Cappy vs. CM? I agree that development may be slower though because of the hardware differences, but I'm sure that it will be a popular phone, and there will be some persistent developer that makes magic happen for us. Maybe designgears or DAGr8 will step up to the plate for us.
I think the smart money is with waiting for the reviews to come in.
The fact they pulled a switcheroo with the guts of the thing, might warrant delay on buying one. I mean, it would really blow to get all excited only to find it dog slow. You can speculate until your exhausted, but ......we shall see.
I had the unlocked version. I expect; no I demand, the same performance.
Frankly, i'm not very optimistic. I don't like the sound of some of these posts.
should be ok
Doesn't the skyrocket or whatever it is called pretty much have the same chipset?
I got the international version for a couple of reasons. The #1 reason is I didn't want a carrier branded device. I want the phone as untouched by a carrier as possible, and usually you can only get that with an unbranded device. #2, was I didn't want to sign another contract. I've been on the old unlimited for a year now, and I prefer to keep it that way until at&t kicks me off of it. #3, in my market, I think h*ll will freeze over before we get LTE. 3rd largest city in the state but, at 200,000 people, it will be a while before it gets here, so the LTE radio wasn't an issue, I'm happy with H+, and I use wi-fi for anything more than checking email and a quick web browse anyway.
If the only thing at&t does to the Note is the radio, LTE, and the lack of the home button, then I don't see why it shouldn't be ok, but, carriers have a way of crippling devices, like disabling the FM radio & tethering, both of which I use just about daily.
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Doesn't the skyrocket or whatever it is called pretty much have the same chipset?
I got the international version for a couple of reasons. The #1 reason is I didn't want a carrier branded device. I want the phone as untouched by a carrier as possible, and usually you can only get that with an unbranded device. #2, was I didn't want to sign another contract. I've been on the old unlimited for a year now, and I prefer to keep it that way until at&t kicks me off of it. #3, in my market, I think h*ll will freeze over before we get LTE. 3rd largest city in the state but, at 200,000 people, it will be a while before it gets here, so the LTE radio wasn't an issue, I'm happy with H+, and I use wi-fi for anything more than checking email and a quick web browse anyway.
If the only thing at&t does to the Note is the radio, LTE, and the lack of the home button, then I don't see why it shouldn't be ok, but, carriers have a way of crippling devices, like disabling the FM radio & tethering, both of which I use just about daily.
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Yes, the Skyrocket is the LTE version of the SGSII on ATT. It has the snapdragon processor. I had the SGSII before that but returned it for the skyrocket because DFW had launched the LTE network and I wanted to be on it. I heard the same back and forth, but I find the skyrocket a very capable phone and the snapdragon a capable processor in every way. The one disappointment I have had in the skyrocket is the bluetooth. I hope the LTE radio does not affect the bluetooth because the GNote has a very good bluetooth system. That will be among the first thing I find out about the ATT Version.
So you tether on your Gnote? No nasty grams from ATT?
I was bummed about the Exnos initially but then really thought about it. For me Exnos would only really matter if I played a lot of games. The games I play aren't that graphics intensive (Worms, Front Line Commander, Eternity Warriors, Wordfeud, etc). Everything I've thrown at my Touchpad, which also has a S3 SOC, with CM7/9 it has played more than fine. Now with ICS on it the TP really flies and that's even with no video acceleration and other goodies that the Note will have working for sure. ICS on the Note is going to be awesome. I think the S3 chipset will more than suite my needs. The Exnos at this point is more for the gamers and bragging rights.
For me the things I want in my next phone are:
1) Big A$$ Screen
Ever since they announced the Streak I've wanted a phone with a large screen and this is larger than the Streak's screen. Luckily there is a big a$$ battery that comes along with it to get you thru 1 day without needing to be next to a power outlet.
2) NFC
Lots of cool things you can use this for, especially mobile payments. I plan on keeping this phone for a long time so I want to be semi future proof.
3) Local warranty
After having so many Captivates crap out between my wife and I, the thought having to send back that many Notes to the Int'l vendor just doesn't sit well with me. AT$T will comp free stuff when you've returned so many and will even replace it with a new one to keep a customer happy, or in my experience they have.
4) Functioning GPS
The Captivates GPS was barely usable especially in Google Navigation. With the Barometer and GLONASS the Note should be a much better GPS experience.
You guys have summed what exactly my reasoning lol. Anyway, hopefully the differences are not drastic from the skyrocket family. If there is little difference other then screen and such, then porting from them (and the tmobile gs2, where most of the development is) can be used, with adding like s memo and such. That would make everyones life better, as maybe something like hellraiser (old infuse term lol its a package you flash after flashing another rom from a whole different phone in the galaxy s family) would be fantastic with a ton more roms to choose from.
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I was bummed about the Exnos initially but then really thought about it. For me Exnos would only really matter if I played a lot of games. The games I play aren't that graphics intensive (Worms, Front Line Commander, Eternity Warriors, Wordfeud, etc). Everything I've thrown at my Touchpad, which also has a S3 SOC, with CM7/9 it has played more than fine. Now with ICS on it the TP really flies and that's even with no video acceleration and other goodies that the Note will have working for sure. ICS on the Note is going to be awesome. I think the S3 chipset will more than suite my needs. The Exnos at this point is more for the gamers and bragging rights.
For me the things I want in my next phone are:
1) Big A$$ Screen
Ever since they announced the Streak I've wanted a phone with a large screen and this is larger than the Streak's screen. Luckily there is a big a$$ battery that comes along with it to get you thru 1 day without needing to be next to a power outlet.
2) NFC
Lots of cool things you can use this for, especially mobile payments. I plan on keeping this phone for a long time so I want to be semi future proof.
3) Local warranty
After having so many Captivates crap out between my wife and I, the thought having to send back that many Notes to the Int'l vendor just doesn't sit well with me. AT$T will comp free stuff when you've returned so many and will even replace it with a new one to keep a customer happy, or in my experience they have.
4) Functioning GPS
The Captivates GPS was barely usable especially in Google Navigation. With the Barometer and GLONASS the Note should be a much better GPS experience.
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Well the Galaxy Note can give you a check by all of your criteria. I must comment on how much you will enjoy the GPS on the GNote. It really is pretty amazing! It locks onto a signal like a hungry dog on a bone and does not let go! Fast, accurate and Google Navi works like a champ! The GNote has access to about 57 or so satellites (US and GLONASS) versus the 27 or so in the US GPS network. That reduces time to lock and since you need 4 satellites to get a fix and altitude the Gnote is unrivaled in heavy urban areas like a downtown city.
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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Hopefully that means developers too! One of my main reasons i make sure there are developers.
Maroon Mushroom said:
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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This might be the Infuse reincarnation where it will get ICS probably in Feb 2013.
Who knows why Exynos was not embedded in the AT&T Note?
arjun90 said:
Who knows why Exynos was not embedded in the AT&T Note?
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Afaik current gen exynos is not compatible with lte. Same reason the skyrocket has the qualcomm s3
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elmerct said:
Afaik current gen exynos is not compatible with lte. Same reason the skyrocket has the qualcomm s3
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Just keep in mind the S3 is still an amazing chipset. Look at the skyrocket forums. They've done amazing things with the same hardware
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Exactly. I chose the skyrocket and couldn't be happier.
From my testing
Exymos- great for games
Snapdragon- better multitasking and the obvious lte compatibility
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Just keep in mind the S3 is still an amazing chipset. Look at the skyrocket forums. They've done amazing things with the same hardware
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I know development will be fine for this Beast!! I need the LTE for when I'm on campus. My infuse doesn't do so well in some of the buildings, wifi is so so too. A Guy in my class has the vivid and he has almost full bars everywhere on campus. So the int. Version wouldn't be very useful to me.
What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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They probably will. The LTE plans are exactly the same cost for the commensurate HSPA plan you are on. You will still be able to get the LTE Unlimited smartphone plan for $30. You might travel to an area with LTE and then would be able to use it. The LTE SIM can also be used in a HSPA area and phone but if you keep your HSPA SIM you will not be able to use LTE if and when in an LTE area.
Just a guess on my part.
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What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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Nope, you won't be forced to change it at all. Sales reps encourage you to keep it. You're good to go.
If something happened and it was removed, as long as you say that you previously paid for it and was removed without your consent, you can get it back.
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So here is the deal, I am stuck between the international version, or the at&t version. The only thing is data for T-Mobile data development. Which one has more promise in terms of breakthroughs for data. I know we already have a radio for the note that lets us connect to 1700mhz and get 5mb down.
I am thinking of selling my Sensation and getting this.
I think someone hacked Tito's account. I can't believe a "retired moderator" and someone with more than 2000 posts has started this thread.
I just vote do it man.
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I'm being serious lol. Just want to have a real discussion about this, not a spec war, or something like that.
Got the AT&T version 2 weeks ago. With the exception of the black pixelation issue, everything's been good. Coming from Sprint, I thought I would hate AT&T but the data speeds have been good, and sometimes insane(beyond 50 mbps). I haven't noticed much lag or anything either. You always have 30 days to return if you think you may not like it.
If T-Mobile data is important then the at&t version is the way to go..
There is still only edge speed on T-Mobile with the inter..
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+1 on att. I think they have 3G/4G working on t mobile with some modem hacks like you said.
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So here is the deal, I am stuck between the international version, or the at&t version. The only thing is data for T-Mobile data development. Which one has more promise in terms of breakthroughs for data. I know we already have a radio for the note that lets us connect to 1700mhz and get 5mb down.
I am thinking of selling my Sensation and getting this.
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dude I've said it before and I'm saying it again. the international note will never see 3g on t mobile it's about hardware, and the hardware for that is not there to support that so it will never happen. the only way for that to happen samsung would have recall all of the international note and put in the proper chips in them lol. And we all know that will never happen. Just to show you guys that will never happen I'm putting on a bounty for 1,000,000 dollars to the dev that makes it happen and i know i will never happen. Because if it was gonna happen it would of happened already it's Been too long since the note came out we need to end this madness now.
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No get an iPhone, stay away from the note.
Lol, its your choice get the one that suits you. What do you want to hear
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Well, data is important, but I do see development on both sides. Which one seems like it would be the right choice in terms of how it looks and the type of support there is to be expected with it? I know that the international version already has AOKP and ICS things because of the fact that it has the Galaxy Nexus internals...
How is the battery life? My sensation gets terrible battery life like max around 8 hours.
Is the modified Adreno 220 up to par, it being over clocked and such?
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Well, data is important, but I do see development on both sides. Which one seems like it would be the right choice in terms of how it looks and the type of support there is to be expected with it? I know that the international version already has AOKP and ICS things because of the fact that it has the Galaxy Nexus internals...
How is the battery life? My sensation gets terrible battery life like max around 8 hours.
Is the modified Adreno 220 up to par, it being over clocked and such?
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I get 12-14 with moderate usage on the ATT version and 18-20 with same usage patterns on the International GNote. I have been using my International this week while on spring break and I love the increased battery life!
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Hmm, my mom has an upgrade available to her so I could get a note and find her a good at&t phone from my work. The issue would be the monthly rate plan and contract she would be stuck with. Since the price wont change only the data plan, she has unlimited, and it would be 3gb. Amazon has the device for 250, but I don't want her to get stuck in another contract with that expensive of a monthly cost. She was planning on switching to T-Mobile but hasn't because of ETF.
What would be the best option? Get an international, or at&t version? I know the international one is basically having a new modem being written for it so it can potentially be compatible with T-Mobile, and that is wonderful. From someone elses standpoint though which option would be best?
I think the samsung note is one of the best devices for now, also I'd prefer Android instead the Iphone OS (last one sucks).
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Hmm, my mom has an upgrade available to her so I could get a note and find her a good at&t phone from my work. The issue would be the monthly rate plan and contract she would be stuck with. Since the price wont change only the data plan, she has unlimited, and it would be 3gb. Amazon has the device for 250, but I don't want her to get stuck in another contract with that expensive of a monthly cost. She was planning on switching to T-Mobile but hasn't because of ETF.
What would be the best option? Get an international, or at&t version? I know the international one is basically having a new modem being written for it so it can potentially be compatible with T-Mobile, and that is wonderful. From someone elses standpoint though which option would be best?
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I have the N7000 version & it's awesome. The only thing that it's missing is LTE. Since your girl is on AT&T & has unlimited data, I would recommend she get the int model or you could get the AT&T & trade for the N7000 model.
N7000 has awesome support for ICS right now, AOSP/AOKP & imilka's ICS are pretty awesome & stable.
Get the LTE. So much faster
Samsung isn't planning on releasing this phone on the big red until MAY30 WHICH is very close to June and isn't there going to be a couple phone in June around that same type with the new snapdragon 800 like that new moto phone coming out so I'm.curious wouldn't the new phone in June play the new gs4 obsolete ? Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! why is Verizon releasing this phone so late i mean if there's a phone within the same month of the gs4 with twice the power then I won't consider the gs4 when I can wait just 2 weeks and buy somethin much more superior in hardware and stock android Samsung is about to lose a tons of money on Verizon if they wait all th way to may30 around the same month as sum very new phones with double the power .... Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ?? in may when moto announces there phone which will prob kill the gs4 in every way specs and software within 3week after the gs4 comes to store everyone will cancel there preorders and just wait and extra 3week to get the most powerful phone with a better screen n better snapdragon n prob more sensors and better battery and full stock android!
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gabrielpina4 said:
Samsung gs4 release so late will make it its own demise ! Why didnt the gs4 release earlier ??
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That doesn't make a lot of sense. People in the U.S. typically get new phones when they become eligible so there's a steady stream of people year round looking to buy new phones no matter when they are released. People buy what pleases them. The DNA tanked on VZW and there were no other phones released before it or after it that caused its failure. And it was powerful and had the world's first 1080P display. People are still buying SGS3's in large quantities and probably will after the SGS4's out because the price will be reduced. The SGS4 will be on the market as a "flagship" for 9-12 months and Samsung's planning on selling 10MM a month. HTC, Motorola, LG, and Sony all introduced phones that competed with the SGS3 and it certainly didn't affect Samsung's sales last year. So there's no reason to expect it to this year either. And the average consumer doesn't know (or care) what a Snapdragon, Exynos, or Octa is.
Plenty of hot new phones came out after the Galaxy S3's July release in the U.S. like the Razr Maxx HD, Nexus 4, etc. yet the GS3 outsold all of them by a huge margin. The average consumer doesn't buy phones based mainly on hardware specs.
Verizon is launching it on may 23rd, not may 30th. I went to Verizon yesterday and there was a Samsung rep there showing the employees the s4 and they said the official launch date is the 23rd. I know that's still three weeks later than the rest, but at least its a week earlier than may 30th. I gotta question, is verizons s4 going to be harder to unlock and root than the rest of them? I heard Verizon likes to lock them down, and I've never owned a smartphone I've been holding out for this one. I own a nexus 7 which is obviously the easiest to unlock and root. But i know the s4 is a huge release so I'm kinda assuming that there will be a solid method to root for Verizon. Am i right?
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
The Galaxy S 4 is optimized for powerful performance on the nation’s fastest networks and will be available on AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless as well as U.S. Cellular, Cricket and C Spire starting during April. Additionally, consumers can find the Galaxy S 4 at Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile, Costco, Radio Shack, Sam’s Club, Staples, Target and Wal-Mart. Exact pricing and retail availability will be announced by each of the carriers and retailers in the coming weeks.
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http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
hurricane350 said:
According to official PR from Samsung today, it will be on all major US carriers by the end of April. I'm guessing April 30th.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20687
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
And for the OP... i am not sure how new phones will make the s4 obsolete? a cpu does not a phone make....
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Available to carriers and carriers making the phone available to consumers are two different things.
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But it says available on not to... I'm staying optimistic!
It also says "starting in april" that could mean that just one or a few carriers will roll it out in April.
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I.D.K. why the O.P. is saying that the galaxy s4 would be obsolete soon i mean come on the motorla x phone right now is just a nice looking rumor plus a processor in a phone doesn't make all that difference because maybe you saw last year's htc one X+ it smoked the galaxy but the battery was really bad plus i hardly ever think android needs more power right now they need to be more battery friendly and better screen really what do you want more than 441ppi ?? anyway looking at all those gs4 specs and concediring what happened with last year's gs3 i can tell you that the galaxy won't go down till the gs5 is out so don't worry if verizon goes a few weeks later than everyone else it will still sell like hot cakes.
I still have unlimited internet after 4/21 can I buy new galaxy s4 cell using the new 12 month payment plan that's effective on 4/21 without upgrading to the 200sub? Does anyone know I think everyone who still has unlimited internet should ask Verizon this.. I wanna get the new s4 but keep my unlimited internet so will this 12month thing work for me?
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I am going to tell you right now that Verizon's phones are the worst due to the spyware they bloat them up with. I hope they do as little to it as possible and there's no way verizon is going to pay for a S800 S4. They are cheap when it comes to there phones and replacing one that has gone bad is near impossible unless you take them to the FCC. If they ever touch my unlimited, I am gone with out a hint of doubt.
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I actually find that replacing phones is very easy on verizon compared to sprint. I had sprint in the past and their customer service was atrocious. The Fascinate (Verizon Galaxy S) apparently had lots of problems, and they kept getting replaced until the Droid Charge came out, when Verizon just started giving out Charges to replace Fascinates.
The Charge had some problems too, and if you got enough bad ones from them, they even started handing out the Bionic, Rezound, and Razr too (phones that came out later with much higher specs). I even bricked my Charge and they just gave me a new one.
Verizon web page updated with Galaxy S4
Verizon web page updated today with Galaxy S4
The next big thing is coming.....late
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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They had to post something. The basically are going to be releasing with the third world, lol. Its ALWAYS something with them. They did their best to wreck the galaxy nexus, they were in on the Carrier IQ scandal, they have to plaster their dated logo on everything, and they sell pretty much the most bloated phones in existence. Yes, they have a good network, but frankly, I live in DFW...all the carriers have good networks here. It's flat, populated and affluent.
I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending. My wife gets a ~25% discount through work, but I can get 15% on T-Mobile, and with the massive price difference, it actually makes T-mobile a better deal. I may even pickup up a used N4, get the $30 walmart plan thing, and wait for the Note III.
I guess as someone that pays attention and is tired of getting screwed and treated like an idiot sheep, I am just not their target market.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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I don't know exactly which options you're choosing, but if you do the math I suspect you'll find that T-Mobile isn't the better deal. I've been doing research recently for an upgrade myself, and I found that corporate discounts actually significantly narrow the gap between T-Mobile and Verizon. Reason is because with T-Mobile ditching subsidies but lowering the monthly bill, the value of a discount on that smaller monthly bill is proportionately less. If you factor in the fact that a full price GS4 on T-Mobile is $630 vs $200 for Verizon, Verizon might actually come out ahead over the course of 2 years.
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If he used like 1GB a month sure it would cost less, but Verizon's network has really gone down the drain in the bigger citys. May as well have sprint 3G at times it get's so bad. Now if you live in bum ville sure Verzion win's. But he live's in the city so data speeds will be better on T-moblie.
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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I have an upgrade, but their delay conveniently puts me within a month of my contract ending.
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If you're considering using an upgrade, that means you don't have unlimited, in which case my question is... why bother with VZ?
4ktvs said:
Also no unlimited data any more with verizon and those like me that still have it get throttled.
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It's not throttled. When the network isn't congested (as you say, places like NYC during the day are crap) I still get great speeds.
I was considering buying a Rezound on Craigslist and I was wondering if anyone had gotten 3G/4G data working on any GSM carriers, or if this was even possible to begin with.
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I was considering buying a Rezound on Craigslist and I was wondering if anyone had gotten 3G/4G data working on any GSM carriers, or if this was even possible to begin with.
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Real 4G (ie. LTE) no, it won't work... some people have been able to do a bunch of NV edits and prop.build tweaks to get 3G working, even HSPA+ but it is not for the faint of heart. REV3NT3CH has been working on a flashable ZIP package to make the changes for any ROM, but I haven't heard any more about in a while... I spent a close to a month working on it and was never able to get better than 2G/EDGE data on AT&T's network and finally gave up.
My honest opinion is if you are going to spend money on a phone for GSM service, get a real GSM phone, the Rezound is a great device and can be hacked a lot if you already have one, but if you are going to buy one for GSM I would look at something else. For something similar on AT&T's network, consider a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, you can get it for around the same price as a used Rezound and it is very similar and the developer community is really good. Not sure about a T-Mobile equivalent. I ponied up the extra and grabbed a Nexus 4, if you can wait a few weeks, the Nexus 5 should drop and the 16GB model is expected to be about $299.
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Real 4G (ie. LTE) no, it won't work... some people have been able to do a bunch of NV edits and prop.build tweaks to get 3G working, even HSPA+ but it is not for the faint of heart. REV3NT3CH has been working on a flashable ZIP package to make the changes for any ROM, but I haven't heard any more about in a while... I spent a close to a month working on it and was never able to get better than 2G/EDGE data on AT&T's network and finally gave up.
My honest opinion is if you are going to spend money on a phone for GSM service, get a real GSM phone, the Rezound is a great device and can be hacked a lot if you already have one, but if you are going to buy one for GSM I would look at something else. For something similar on AT&T's network, consider a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket, you can get it for around the same price as a used Rezound and it is very similar and the developer community is really good. Not sure about a T-Mobile equivalent. I ponied up the extra and grabbed a Nexus 4, if you can wait a few weeks, the Nexus 5 should drop and the 16GB model is expected to be about $299.
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Which is good advice, if I was looking to spend more than $75-100 at the moment. My phone broke and I'd like a midline replacement for it, and there are a few Rezounds on Craigslist in my area, which are at a low price in that spec range.
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Which is good advice, if I was looking to spend more than $75-100 at the moment. My phone broke and I'd like a midline replacement for it, and there are a few Rezounds on Craigslist in my area, which are at a low price in that spec range.
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Tough price range for a comparable phone... I sold one of my Rezounds on local classified ads board for $150 a month or so. But I would assume you can grab a 3G/4G GSM phone for around the same price range, just take a little more homework.
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Tough price range for a comparable phone... I sold one of my Rezounds on local classified ads board for $150 a month or so. But I would assume you can grab a 3G/4G GSM phone for around the same price range, just take a little more homework.
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Time is kind of an issue for me and the pricing is also one. I am going to save money up for a nicer phone at some point, but this is what's available in the price range I can afford in this time range for a phone I don't plan on owning forever.
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Time is kind of an issue for me and the pricing is also one. I am going to save money up for a nicer phone at some point, but this is what's available in the price range I can afford in this time range for a phone I don't plan on owning forever.
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To be honest, if you can't do Verizon post-paid I would skip the Rezound unless you are very skilled at modding Android on a deeper level than root and ROMs or can live without mobile data (voice and SMS will work)...
Using the Rezound on a US GSM carrier with mobile data is very hit and miss and some people can get it to work and others can't.
I love my Rezound, but I have a hard time recommending it for a quick GSM phone.