Hello, all...
I JUST upgraded from an Aria to an AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II. THEN I find out that the next day, I could get a Skyrocket for the same price ($150). I asked the person at the store if the phone had 4g, and she said "yes". I didn't know then the difference between HSPA+ and LTE.
Also, I found out that AT&T is planning on upgrading the Skyrocket to ICS, but not the original S II. This really kind of hacks me off!
Anyway, I only got the phone a couple of days ago, but already I loaded a bunch of apps and spent a day setting it up the way I like it. Is it worth it to take it back to the store and swap it out for a Skyrocket? I live in the St. Louis, MO area, so I don't know when we'd be getting LTE.
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If you don't have LTE, absolutely not. If you do have LTE, maybe.
I just bought a SGSII and live in NYC where they will roll out LTE. I'm not due to the change of hardware and dev support. Seems like this is the place to be.
One thing that has me leaning towards getting this is the beter radio. I believe 700Mhz for data.
The OG SGS2 WILL get ICS also FOR SURE. In fact MOST LIKELY we will have a port of it well before the lte SGS2 due to the i9100 being an unbranded phone and the unbranded phones get WAY MORE OS updates than ANY US phone ever gets.
But as far as getting OFFICIAL ICS I would BET that they both get them at the same timeframe or very close to it. And back to the similarities between the i9100 and i777 not near as much work to change/configure the OS would be needed for the i777 as compared to the needed changes for the i727 lte phone and T-Mobile SGS2 version.
We had the SAME thing with the ATT captivate, the i9000 is close to out i897 captivate but the i9000 got way more updates since it is an international version phone that is unbranded.
The same holds true for the i9100 being unbranded and will get more support for it (just look at how many gingerbread leaks they are already getting/ have gotten) The i777 has already gotten what TWO leaks of upgrades and since the i777 is closer to the i9100 almost exactly. We should benefit from them again.
The i727 lte skyrocket ONLY has a close affilitation with the T-Mobile SGS2 with the same hardware all just a added lte radio on the i727 skyrocket.
So in summary the international version SGS2 has sold at least 10 million phones AROUND THE WORLD and the i777 is almost the same exact phone. So support will always be there.
I expect the i727 sky rocket will end up having support for it also but unless 10 Million or so phones are sold between the ATT lte version and the T-Mobile version the support will be more of a one off type phone.
These are just my humble opinions and basing it on how I saw the ATT Captivate get better support since it was close to the i9000 and how ATT does take a LONG TIME to get out OS upgrades for their android phones. Just look at the captivate i897, it has had leaks of different gingerbreads for quite some time yet they STILL do not have an official gingerbread. So when they get gingerbread our SGS2's will already be ICS. That is just how ATT works.
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RockRatt said:
The OG SGS2 WILL get ICS also FOR SURE. In fact MOST LIKELY we will have a port of it well before the lte SGS2 due to the i9100 being an unbranded phone and the unbranded phones get WAY MORE OS updates than ANY US phone ever gets.
But as far as getting OFFICIAL ICS I would BET that they both get them at the same timeframe or very close to it. And back to the similarities between the i9100 and i777 not near as much work to change/configure the OS would be needed for the i777 as compared to the needed changes for the i727 lte phone and T-Mobile SGS2 version.
We had the SAME thing with the ATT captivate, the i9000 is close to out i897 captivate but the i9000 got way more updates since it is an international version phone that is unbranded.
The same holds true for the i9100 being unbranded and will get more support for it (just look at how many gingerbread leaks they are already getting/ have gotten) The i777 has already gotten what TWO leaks of upgrades and since the i777 is closer to the i9100 almost exactly. We should benefit from them again.
The i727 lte skyrocket ONLY has a close affilitation with the T-Mobile SGS2 with the same hardware all just a added lte radio on the i727 skyrocket.
So in summary the international version SGS2 has sold at least 10 million phones AROUND THE WORLD and the i777 is almost the same exact phone. So support will always be there.
I expect the i727 sky rocket will end up having support for it also but unless 10 Million or so phones are sold between the ATT lte version and the T-Mobile version the support will be more of a one off type phone.
These are just my humble opinions and basing it on how I saw the ATT Captivate get better support since it was close to the i9000 and how ATT does take a LONG TIME to get out OS upgrades for their android phones. Just look at the captivate i897, it has had leaks of different gingerbreads for quite some time yet they STILL do not have an official gingerbread. So when they get gingerbread our SGS2's will already be ICS. That is just how ATT works.
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this is true the one-off thing is HUGE in the dev community.........but there will be some dev support for this skyrocket. coming from the infuse a Dead Dev area after the sgs2 was dropped and VERY slow prior anyway.....so i can wait for a dev to get his hands on it. should happen sooner than later.
There is an international version of the Skyrocket.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
so maybe they will get ICS around the same time as the OGS2.
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If you don't have LTE, absolutely not. If you do have LTE, maybe.
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I personally don't think it's as black and white as you make it appear to be. I think other things like unlimited data (grandfathered) and larger display can make some people feel the change is worth it. Also pricing since many people probably paid $199 for the OG GS2 whereas the SR can be had for $149 in some markets.
I think if you rely heavily on roms and dev support, the SR is not the better choice though... I do like these things myself, but I'm of the belief that we'll get some love eventually.
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I think other things like unlimited data and larger display can make some people feel the change is worth it.
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Since when you get unlimited data with the purchase of Skyrocket?
foxbat121 said:
Since when you get unlimited data with the purchase of Skyrocket?
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He's talking about the grandfathered unlimited data plan that some people still have.
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He's talking about the grandfathered unlimited data plan that some people still have.
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No, read what I quoted. He seems to indicate that unlimited data and larger screen are the benefits of the Skyrocket over OGS2.
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There is an international version of the Skyrocket.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
so maybe they will get ICS around the same time as the OGS2.
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Except International version of Skyrocket (Celox) has LTE radio tuned to a completely different frequency...
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He's talking about the grandfathered unlimited data plan that some people still have.
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Yeah, forgot to clarify that. Thanks.
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No, read what I quoted. He seems to indicate that unlimited data and larger screen are the benefits of the Skyrocket over OGS2.
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If that's how you read what I said, my apologies. I updated it to reflect what I meant. Basically those people that still have an unlimited data plan might see a benefit to upgrading since they can use LTE (when available) without the worry of hitting a 2GB data cap quickly. It was simply another thing to consider and one that I thought about which lead me to return my OG GS2 and get the SR.
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this is true the one-off thing is HUGE in the dev community.........but there will be some dev support for this skyrocket. coming from the infuse a Dead Dev area after the sgs2 was dropped and VERY slow prior anyway.....so i can wait for a dev to get his hands on it. should happen sooner than later.
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Compare that to the still lively Captivate dev community.
That's why I opted for the SGSII.
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There is an international version of the Skyrocket.....
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/26/samsung-announces-galaxy-s-ii-lte-and-galaxy-s-ii-hd-lte-handset/
so maybe they will get ICS around the same time as the OGS2.
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Difference is, the SGSII has sold probably 15-20million units worldwide (phones based off of the i9100). The LTE version, not even close.
So in the end, I just picked up my brand new SGSII from Bestbuy for $99 It was a tough choice but I prefer the sure bet.
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If that's how you read what I said, my apologies. I updated it to reflect what I meant. Basically those people that still have an unlimited data plan might see a benefit to upgrading since they can use LTE (when available) without the worry of hitting a 2GB data cap quickly. It was simply another thing to consider and one that I thought about which lead me to return my OG GS2 and get the SR.
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I still don't get what you try to say. Are you saying with OG GS2, you can only use 2GB of data even with unlimited data plan? Or are you implying AT&T won't flag your for tethering if you hit 2GB on a LTE phone? If it is later, do you have any proof for that?
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I still don't get what you try to say. Are you saying with OG GS2, you can only use 2GB of data even with unlimited data plan? Or are you implying AT&T won't flag your for tethering if you hit 2GB on a LTE phone? If it is later, do you have any proof for that?
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I'm simply implying that with an LTE device, you're much more likely to move through your allotted 2GB of data on a fixed plan compared to unlimited. It's not really a huge thing as I imagine the high % of users don't even use 2GB but with a faster connection, you're more likely to actually use it and therefore a higher or unlimited cap might be a benefit. That's all I'm saying.
So, after reading these posts, and considering the following points of my phone usage:
I use WiFi more than 3G/HSPA+
I got my phone for $150, price matched at an AT&T store with Sam's Club
I've already installed a bunch of apps and stuff on the phone
I hate spending time in AT&T stores
This i777 will probably have better community support, and I can probably get ICS sooner anyway
Who knows when St. Louis will get LTE
I think I'll just keep the phone I have.
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I'm simply implying that with an LTE device, you're much more likely to move through your allotted 2GB of data on a fixed plan compared to unlimited. It's not really a huge thing as I imagine the high % of users don't even use 2GB but with a faster connection, you're more likely to actually use it and therefore a higher or unlimited cap might be a benefit. That's all I'm saying.
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But unlimited data plan is an inherited right for being old It has nothing to do with the phone of your choice. Less so for choosing one phone over another. I can burn as much data as on OS SGS2 as LTE SGS2 per month if I wanted. Until we see some benchmarks from reputable sources, we don't yet know what's the price to pay for that faster pipe of LTE. If Verizon's LTE phone can be an inidication, you basically burn through your battery juice much quicker than other phones so you get a dead battery early in the day instead of other phones sip through the entire day. In the end, you may use the exact same amount of data. You never know.
Not sure but..... When i am not in my LTE coverage area my download speeds are stilll way faster on my skyrocket than they were on my ogsg2. At the att store where there is no LTE my ogsg2 was get about 2.5 down and the salemans skyrocket was getting over 6 side by side. Might be worth looking into even in non LTE market
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Not sure but..... When i am not in my LTE coverage area my download speeds are stilll way faster on my skyrocket than they were on my ogsg2. At the att store where there is no LTE my ogsg2 was get about 2.5 down and the salemans skyrocket was getting over 6 side by side. Might be worth looking into even in non LTE market
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Yeah I'll add to this as well. I just hit 4.8Mbps this morning and the fastest I could ever reach on my OGSGS2 was 2.8. Probably a fluke but it did catch my eye.
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I'm in the USA on AT&T. Where should I pre-order from? I had a pre-order in with Negri Online - but they raised their price to $795 today -- I was okay with $660 (with a coupon) but an increase of over $100 -- when nobody else is close to that price is insane.
Suggestions?
I've looked at Clove, MobileCityOnline, and HandTec. Am I missing anyone? Anyone worth a few extra bucks?
im in the same boat as you. These prices are insane. If I cant get one for 650 or less I might just wait for att and get on contract.
I doubt you'll find it for less than $725...
You can get the i9000 on Amazon, so I don't see why you won't be score to get the SGS2 there at some point also.
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I doubt you'll find it for less than $725...
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Its a kick ass phone and I will have one eventually but besides hardcore SG2 fans theres no way that many are gonna sell at that price.
I could be wrong but its nuts.
Lets just say I sold my atrix for 400 I would still have to shell out over 300. wowee
I think its worth the price but its just too steep for me right now
Or you could wait until AT&T or T-Mobile launch it there.
Luckily I am in India during the Launch here and will pick it up here and hopefully not a stripped down version from there.
i'll like to pre-order for the Tmobile USA version
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i'll like to pre-order for the Tmobile USA version
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Same here!
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Or you could wait until AT&T or T-Mobile launch it there.
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Ew.
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Im waiting for the Verizon release as my contract is up in around 2 weeks.
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Ew.
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Care to elaborate Mr. AT&T (no unlimited data, no free tethering, most dropped calls)?
open1your1eyes0 said:
Care to elaborate Mr. AT&T (no unlimited data, no free tethering, most dropped calls)?
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I have a galaxy s i9000 and I have unlimited data and tethering for $10 a month on AT&T.
I got my 8gb i9000 on ebay for $550 brand new. This was back in August of 2010. I'm sure you can find a GSII for $600 on ebay once they are released.
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AT&T still has to release Samsung Infuse, there is no date even for that. They usually announce release dates 2 weeks in advance - is this correct? So Infuse is hitting the market closer to end of April or even later.
Then they would release SGS2 within 2 months or at the latest mid July, a year anniversary of SGS1? What sense does it make for AT&T to have two confusingly similar (to J6p) phones released so close to each other? Why would they infuse stock with the Infuse and make it difficult to captivate shelf space for the Captivate 2 a month or two later?
I am writing all this because I am suspecting Infuse would become SGS2, OR SGS2 will be pushed back to end of summer. Possible?
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piggy backing on the USA thread, hope the OP does not mind
AT&T still has to release Samsung Infuse, there is no date even for that. They usually announce release dates 2 weeks in advance - is this correct? So Infuse is hitting the market closer to end of April or even later.
Then they would release SGS2 within 2 months or at the latest mid July, a year anniversary of SGS1? What sense does it make for AT&T to have two confusingly similar (to J6p) phones released so close to each other? Why would they infuse stock with the Infuse and make it difficult to captivate shelf space for the Captivate 2 a month or two later?
I am writing all this because I am suspecting Infuse would become SGS2, OR SGS2 will be pushed back to end of summer. Possible?
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I've been thinking along similar lines. I really dont know what purpose the Infuse would serve for them if they also have the SGS2.
I've been wondering if the Infuse 4G is actually AT&T's version of the Galaxy S II. Why else would they be so coy about not letting anyone touch it or interact with it at CES...then keep it behind glass under lock and key at CTIA.
Having said that -- I don't want AT&T's gimped version of the GSII, unless the price is REALLY right!
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If it is at&t's version of the sgs2 it needs to come with some upgrades to what it's listed as now (processor, gingerbread). I don't really care about NFC though.
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I've been wondering if the Infuse 4G is actually AT&T's version of the Galaxy S II. Why else would they be so coy about not letting anyone touch it or interact with it at CES...then keep it behind glass under lock and key at CTIA.
Having said that -- I don't want AT&T's gimped version of the GSII, unless the price is REALLY right!
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It very well could be although I doubt they will deviate away from the 4.3 in Screen.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i997_infuse_4g-3705.php
the Infuse is a single core A8 1.2 Ghz processor while we know that the SGS II will have a dual core. That is what the BIG-BANG from Samsung was all about... The screen and the processor.
The infuse to me seems just a likely indication that it will be a while before you see SGSII released on AT&T. Same situation with Verizon and the Droid Charge due out any day now. Even if they do not localize versions of the SGSII like they did with SGS (And God I hope they don't, those alterations largely were just annoying), release across carriers won't be simultaneous.
So does that mean we can guess what order they will hit based on recent releases or lack thereof? If using that logic, Sprint-->T-mobile--> Verizon/AT&T
Sad for me as I'm on Verizon and want to get a 4G phone before unlimited dies...it's not looking likely I'll be able to wait for SGSII
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Care to elaborate Mr. AT&T (no unlimited data, no free tethering, most dropped calls)?
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I have free tethering and have never dropped a call.
I meant that carrier-branded, delayed-update, feature-deprived, bloat-filled devices are not something I'd endorse.
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is t-mobile getting the sgs2?
i didn't think SGS2 had AWS support, doesn't tmobile run on 1700/2100 3g?
Suppose you wanted to 'upgrade' a Vibrant to another T-mobile phone. What would you pick?
Considerations: A good GPS, prospect of Ice Cream, no rooting hassles, FM radio?
Galaxy S 4G, G2X, .....?
thats too easy hercules! hercules over sensation any day and dont flame me about samsung updates. It will be a beast of a phone with or without the updates.
My first option would be an international SGS2, but seems like its not comming to TMO any time soon, so i would pick the Hercules.
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My first option would be an international SGS2, but seems like its not comming to TMO any time soon, so i would pick the Hercules.
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Since it has an unlock already, what stops you from buying it off eBay?
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Since it has an unlock already, what stops you from buying it off eBay?
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He said he was using a TMO upgrade. He is not buying from ebay.
If tmobile dont get sgs2 im probably switching to sprint to get one
first off u cant use a international sgs2 on tmobil but u can on att, its something to do with the bands.
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first off u cant use a international sgs2 on tmobil but u can on att, its something to do with the bands.
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Actually it will work fine on t-mobile except you would only have edge data
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but edge is like working with dial up...so basically no! LOL
Hercules if you want a T-Mobile upgrade. I am probably going to buy the SGS2 internationally and go to ATT because the data plan is only $10 if you have an unlocked international phone.
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Hercules if you want a T-Mobile upgrade. I am probably going to buy the SGS2 internationally and go to ATT because the data plan is only $10 if you have an unlocked international phone.
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For unlimited data? I was upset to here that att is buying T-Mobile because they are expensive but to be honest my data plan is half of my bill with T-Mobile. If it is unlimited is there a gigabyte cap?
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Not long ago I'd have said the G2X since it is (close to) stock Android. However, in light of it being unavailable currently and until we know if GB will fix the defects it has, I'd have to belay that recommendation in favor of another.
Tentatively, the HTC Sensation, which launches the 15th. HTC generally doesn't bomb on their phone releases, so it should be a sweet device.
If neither one of these, then do not upgrade. They are the only phones improved enough over the vibrant to be worth upgrading to. The G2, MyTouch 4G, etc, are all pretty much "sideways" upgrades and not worth it.
Definatly the nexus s or hercules
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I'm wondering the same thing. My tweenage daughter's line is eligible for an upgrade on TMO in 4 days. She's held onto her feature phone responsibly, so I'm inclined to get her an Android, or steal her upgrade and give her my Vibrant. That would piss her off, but hey, I'm the phone geek and I pay the bill! Might piss off my wife too though... hmmm.
I can switch us to the Family unlimited talk & text plan with 2 GB of data for all 3 lines for $189 before my AAA discount, which should bring it to ~$160/mo. That's about the same as we're paying currently (or a bit less) for 1800 min, Fave 5, $25 Android data x 2, unlimited txt, family allowances. I could also go a bit cheaper, give her 200 min and 200 mb instead of unlimited min/2 GB and save $30/mo.
Has to be Android, preferably vanilla (or easily rooted with good ROMs, ideally CM7 support), definitely 4G. She might prefer a hard keyboard, I don't. She'd probably be thrilled with a MyTouch 4G, I'd prefer something nicer, dual core. Haven't been keeping up with hardware developments, what's out, what's coming... Thoughts?
Now that the Note for AT&T is official and we know the specs I wanted to get some opinions on the phone. I have personally been waiting for this phone to come subsidized to AT&T since it was first announced and now that it is finally here, I'm nowhere near as excited as I thought I would be and that all comes down to one thing:Snapdragon.
I know this topic has been debated before and some think it is vastly inferior to the Exynos while others that the difference is negligible but this is my biggest reservation about the AT&T version. I am currently using a Captivate at 1.5ghz running CM9 build 15 and while the phone may be old it is still quite smooth. I went into an AT&T store and played with a Skyrocket to get an idea of how the Note would feel and I was very disappointed. It seemed way more sluggish and unresponsive than my current phone and definitely slower than my friends Exynos powered GSII.
Another problem I foresee with the Snapdragon is the availability of custom roms. Now I may be spoiled with the amount of developers that the I9000 and I897 have had but with the hardware on the AT&T note being different than the international version, that may greatly limit the amount of developers it will receive. This may turn out to be completely false but my favorite part about android are all of the custom roms and if that were to mostly disappear it would be very disappointing for me.
I should also mention that LTE is a complete non-factor when taking this phone into consideration as I currently live in the Detroit area and we probably won't even see LTE in a year at the least.
If anyone would like to share their opinion on anything Note related I would love to hear it.
I too am in the same boat... I couldn't wait until the Note was state side but when I finally read the specs for the AT&T Note I started to loose interest. I have read all kinds of reviews on the skyrocket Vs SGSII / Snapdragon VS Exynos and while they were informative I couldn't help feeling like it's all personal preference. Unfortunately, my preference is leaning Samsung which leaves me with only one option. Buy an unlocked Note!
I also have the ATT captivate with ICS running Doc's rom though and think that's running smooth. (Battery could be better but that's for another thread) and I love how the community has picked up this phone and continue to support it even though it's an older phone.
I guess I'm going to have to wait and see what happens and hope that developers pick up the ATT Note like they have the captivate. Maybe the snapdragon wan't be so bad.
The main reasons I wanted the Note when it was announced:
Big screen
Exynos dual core
NFC
Front camera
8mp rear camera
Stylus
I guess one missing out of six isn't too bad
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I know this topic has been debated before and some think it is vastly inferior to the Exynos while others that the difference is negligible but this is my biggest reservation about the AT&T version. I am currently using a Captivate at 1.5ghz running CM9 build 15 and while the phone may be old it is still quite smooth. I went into an AT&T store and played with a Skyrocket to get an idea of how the Note would feel and I was very disappointed. It seemed way more sluggish and unresponsive than my current phone and definitely slower than my friends Exynos powered GSII.
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I had a Captivate before I got my Inspire, I wish I would have kept it, great phone, just wanted a bigger one. I think the reason it seems sluggish to you is because your Captivate is running CM9, while the Note is running GB with TouchWiz. Big difference there. Remember the difference between stock TW on the Cappy vs. CM? I agree that development may be slower though because of the hardware differences, but I'm sure that it will be a popular phone, and there will be some persistent developer that makes magic happen for us. Maybe designgears or DAGr8 will step up to the plate for us.
I think the smart money is with waiting for the reviews to come in.
The fact they pulled a switcheroo with the guts of the thing, might warrant delay on buying one. I mean, it would really blow to get all excited only to find it dog slow. You can speculate until your exhausted, but ......we shall see.
I had the unlocked version. I expect; no I demand, the same performance.
Frankly, i'm not very optimistic. I don't like the sound of some of these posts.
should be ok
Doesn't the skyrocket or whatever it is called pretty much have the same chipset?
I got the international version for a couple of reasons. The #1 reason is I didn't want a carrier branded device. I want the phone as untouched by a carrier as possible, and usually you can only get that with an unbranded device. #2, was I didn't want to sign another contract. I've been on the old unlimited for a year now, and I prefer to keep it that way until at&t kicks me off of it. #3, in my market, I think h*ll will freeze over before we get LTE. 3rd largest city in the state but, at 200,000 people, it will be a while before it gets here, so the LTE radio wasn't an issue, I'm happy with H+, and I use wi-fi for anything more than checking email and a quick web browse anyway.
If the only thing at&t does to the Note is the radio, LTE, and the lack of the home button, then I don't see why it shouldn't be ok, but, carriers have a way of crippling devices, like disabling the FM radio & tethering, both of which I use just about daily.
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Doesn't the skyrocket or whatever it is called pretty much have the same chipset?
I got the international version for a couple of reasons. The #1 reason is I didn't want a carrier branded device. I want the phone as untouched by a carrier as possible, and usually you can only get that with an unbranded device. #2, was I didn't want to sign another contract. I've been on the old unlimited for a year now, and I prefer to keep it that way until at&t kicks me off of it. #3, in my market, I think h*ll will freeze over before we get LTE. 3rd largest city in the state but, at 200,000 people, it will be a while before it gets here, so the LTE radio wasn't an issue, I'm happy with H+, and I use wi-fi for anything more than checking email and a quick web browse anyway.
If the only thing at&t does to the Note is the radio, LTE, and the lack of the home button, then I don't see why it shouldn't be ok, but, carriers have a way of crippling devices, like disabling the FM radio & tethering, both of which I use just about daily.
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Yes, the Skyrocket is the LTE version of the SGSII on ATT. It has the snapdragon processor. I had the SGSII before that but returned it for the skyrocket because DFW had launched the LTE network and I wanted to be on it. I heard the same back and forth, but I find the skyrocket a very capable phone and the snapdragon a capable processor in every way. The one disappointment I have had in the skyrocket is the bluetooth. I hope the LTE radio does not affect the bluetooth because the GNote has a very good bluetooth system. That will be among the first thing I find out about the ATT Version.
So you tether on your Gnote? No nasty grams from ATT?
I was bummed about the Exnos initially but then really thought about it. For me Exnos would only really matter if I played a lot of games. The games I play aren't that graphics intensive (Worms, Front Line Commander, Eternity Warriors, Wordfeud, etc). Everything I've thrown at my Touchpad, which also has a S3 SOC, with CM7/9 it has played more than fine. Now with ICS on it the TP really flies and that's even with no video acceleration and other goodies that the Note will have working for sure. ICS on the Note is going to be awesome. I think the S3 chipset will more than suite my needs. The Exnos at this point is more for the gamers and bragging rights.
For me the things I want in my next phone are:
1) Big A$$ Screen
Ever since they announced the Streak I've wanted a phone with a large screen and this is larger than the Streak's screen. Luckily there is a big a$$ battery that comes along with it to get you thru 1 day without needing to be next to a power outlet.
2) NFC
Lots of cool things you can use this for, especially mobile payments. I plan on keeping this phone for a long time so I want to be semi future proof.
3) Local warranty
After having so many Captivates crap out between my wife and I, the thought having to send back that many Notes to the Int'l vendor just doesn't sit well with me. AT$T will comp free stuff when you've returned so many and will even replace it with a new one to keep a customer happy, or in my experience they have.
4) Functioning GPS
The Captivates GPS was barely usable especially in Google Navigation. With the Barometer and GLONASS the Note should be a much better GPS experience.
You guys have summed what exactly my reasoning lol. Anyway, hopefully the differences are not drastic from the skyrocket family. If there is little difference other then screen and such, then porting from them (and the tmobile gs2, where most of the development is) can be used, with adding like s memo and such. That would make everyones life better, as maybe something like hellraiser (old infuse term lol its a package you flash after flashing another rom from a whole different phone in the galaxy s family) would be fantastic with a ton more roms to choose from.
kimocal said:
I was bummed about the Exnos initially but then really thought about it. For me Exnos would only really matter if I played a lot of games. The games I play aren't that graphics intensive (Worms, Front Line Commander, Eternity Warriors, Wordfeud, etc). Everything I've thrown at my Touchpad, which also has a S3 SOC, with CM7/9 it has played more than fine. Now with ICS on it the TP really flies and that's even with no video acceleration and other goodies that the Note will have working for sure. ICS on the Note is going to be awesome. I think the S3 chipset will more than suite my needs. The Exnos at this point is more for the gamers and bragging rights.
For me the things I want in my next phone are:
1) Big A$$ Screen
Ever since they announced the Streak I've wanted a phone with a large screen and this is larger than the Streak's screen. Luckily there is a big a$$ battery that comes along with it to get you thru 1 day without needing to be next to a power outlet.
2) NFC
Lots of cool things you can use this for, especially mobile payments. I plan on keeping this phone for a long time so I want to be semi future proof.
3) Local warranty
After having so many Captivates crap out between my wife and I, the thought having to send back that many Notes to the Int'l vendor just doesn't sit well with me. AT$T will comp free stuff when you've returned so many and will even replace it with a new one to keep a customer happy, or in my experience they have.
4) Functioning GPS
The Captivates GPS was barely usable especially in Google Navigation. With the Barometer and GLONASS the Note should be a much better GPS experience.
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Well the Galaxy Note can give you a check by all of your criteria. I must comment on how much you will enjoy the GPS on the GNote. It really is pretty amazing! It locks onto a signal like a hungry dog on a bone and does not let go! Fast, accurate and Google Navi works like a champ! The GNote has access to about 57 or so satellites (US and GLONASS) versus the 27 or so in the US GPS network. That reduces time to lock and since you need 4 satellites to get a fix and altitude the Gnote is unrivaled in heavy urban areas like a downtown city.
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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Hopefully that means developers too! One of my main reasons i make sure there are developers.
Maroon Mushroom said:
Thoughts on the Note? Best AT&T phone available.
-NFC
-HD screen
-best GPS performance
-the chipset has tons of headroom for overclocking as we have seen with the skyrocket
-will be updated to ICS Touchwiz
-will most likely get an amazing CM9 port. (tablet mode would be awesome!)
-Incredible battery life. the best out of all smartphones from my experience
-Wacom screen w/ stylus
-LTE!
looking at the korean version of this phone (pretty much the same as the AT&T version) it has incredible performance and battery life.
I have a lot of people coming into my AT&T store asking about it. This phone has a lot of hype. I'll take a photo of our shipments when they get in.
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This might be the Infuse reincarnation where it will get ICS probably in Feb 2013.
Who knows why Exynos was not embedded in the AT&T Note?
arjun90 said:
Who knows why Exynos was not embedded in the AT&T Note?
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Afaik current gen exynos is not compatible with lte. Same reason the skyrocket has the qualcomm s3
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Afaik current gen exynos is not compatible with lte. Same reason the skyrocket has the qualcomm s3
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Just keep in mind the S3 is still an amazing chipset. Look at the skyrocket forums. They've done amazing things with the same hardware
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Exactly. I chose the skyrocket and couldn't be happier.
From my testing
Exymos- great for games
Snapdragon- better multitasking and the obvious lte compatibility
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Just keep in mind the S3 is still an amazing chipset. Look at the skyrocket forums. They've done amazing things with the same hardware
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I know development will be fine for this Beast!! I need the LTE for when I'm on campus. My infuse doesn't do so well in some of the buildings, wifi is so so too. A Guy in my class has the vivid and he has almost full bars everywhere on campus. So the int. Version wouldn't be very useful to me.
What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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They probably will. The LTE plans are exactly the same cost for the commensurate HSPA plan you are on. You will still be able to get the LTE Unlimited smartphone plan for $30. You might travel to an area with LTE and then would be able to use it. The LTE SIM can also be used in a HSPA area and phone but if you keep your HSPA SIM you will not be able to use LTE if and when in an LTE area.
Just a guess on my part.
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What I am curious about is if At&t is going to force the new LTE data plan on me, considering there isn't any LTE where I live, and likely won't be for the next year or two at least. I've still have the old $30 smartphone unlimited data, would be pissed if they made me upgrade my data for basically no reason since I'd still only get H+.
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Nope, you won't be forced to change it at all. Sales reps encourage you to keep it. You're good to go.
If something happened and it was removed, as long as you say that you previously paid for it and was removed without your consent, you can get it back.
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So here is the deal, I am stuck between the international version, or the at&t version. The only thing is data for T-Mobile data development. Which one has more promise in terms of breakthroughs for data. I know we already have a radio for the note that lets us connect to 1700mhz and get 5mb down.
I am thinking of selling my Sensation and getting this.
I think someone hacked Tito's account. I can't believe a "retired moderator" and someone with more than 2000 posts has started this thread.
I just vote do it man.
Kony 2012 is Propaganda.
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I'm being serious lol. Just want to have a real discussion about this, not a spec war, or something like that.
Got the AT&T version 2 weeks ago. With the exception of the black pixelation issue, everything's been good. Coming from Sprint, I thought I would hate AT&T but the data speeds have been good, and sometimes insane(beyond 50 mbps). I haven't noticed much lag or anything either. You always have 30 days to return if you think you may not like it.
If T-Mobile data is important then the at&t version is the way to go..
There is still only edge speed on T-Mobile with the inter..
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+1 on att. I think they have 3G/4G working on t mobile with some modem hacks like you said.
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So here is the deal, I am stuck between the international version, or the at&t version. The only thing is data for T-Mobile data development. Which one has more promise in terms of breakthroughs for data. I know we already have a radio for the note that lets us connect to 1700mhz and get 5mb down.
I am thinking of selling my Sensation and getting this.
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dude I've said it before and I'm saying it again. the international note will never see 3g on t mobile it's about hardware, and the hardware for that is not there to support that so it will never happen. the only way for that to happen samsung would have recall all of the international note and put in the proper chips in them lol. And we all know that will never happen. Just to show you guys that will never happen I'm putting on a bounty for 1,000,000 dollars to the dev that makes it happen and i know i will never happen. Because if it was gonna happen it would of happened already it's Been too long since the note came out we need to end this madness now.
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No get an iPhone, stay away from the note.
Lol, its your choice get the one that suits you. What do you want to hear
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Well, data is important, but I do see development on both sides. Which one seems like it would be the right choice in terms of how it looks and the type of support there is to be expected with it? I know that the international version already has AOKP and ICS things because of the fact that it has the Galaxy Nexus internals...
How is the battery life? My sensation gets terrible battery life like max around 8 hours.
Is the modified Adreno 220 up to par, it being over clocked and such?
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Well, data is important, but I do see development on both sides. Which one seems like it would be the right choice in terms of how it looks and the type of support there is to be expected with it? I know that the international version already has AOKP and ICS things because of the fact that it has the Galaxy Nexus internals...
How is the battery life? My sensation gets terrible battery life like max around 8 hours.
Is the modified Adreno 220 up to par, it being over clocked and such?
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I get 12-14 with moderate usage on the ATT version and 18-20 with same usage patterns on the International GNote. I have been using my International this week while on spring break and I love the increased battery life!
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Hmm, my mom has an upgrade available to her so I could get a note and find her a good at&t phone from my work. The issue would be the monthly rate plan and contract she would be stuck with. Since the price wont change only the data plan, she has unlimited, and it would be 3gb. Amazon has the device for 250, but I don't want her to get stuck in another contract with that expensive of a monthly cost. She was planning on switching to T-Mobile but hasn't because of ETF.
What would be the best option? Get an international, or at&t version? I know the international one is basically having a new modem being written for it so it can potentially be compatible with T-Mobile, and that is wonderful. From someone elses standpoint though which option would be best?
I think the samsung note is one of the best devices for now, also I'd prefer Android instead the Iphone OS (last one sucks).
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Hmm, my mom has an upgrade available to her so I could get a note and find her a good at&t phone from my work. The issue would be the monthly rate plan and contract she would be stuck with. Since the price wont change only the data plan, she has unlimited, and it would be 3gb. Amazon has the device for 250, but I don't want her to get stuck in another contract with that expensive of a monthly cost. She was planning on switching to T-Mobile but hasn't because of ETF.
What would be the best option? Get an international, or at&t version? I know the international one is basically having a new modem being written for it so it can potentially be compatible with T-Mobile, and that is wonderful. From someone elses standpoint though which option would be best?
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I have the N7000 version & it's awesome. The only thing that it's missing is LTE. Since your girl is on AT&T & has unlimited data, I would recommend she get the int model or you could get the AT&T & trade for the N7000 model.
N7000 has awesome support for ICS right now, AOSP/AOKP & imilka's ICS are pretty awesome & stable.
Get the LTE. So much faster
This thread is dedicated to the Unites States Verizon version.
Things to include:
1) SoC / Processor
2) Color Schemes offered (aside from blue/white)
3) PRICING!
4) Any alterations from International Version (for example, if it has no home button, etc.)
5) Pricing for Verizon accessories for SIII
Also, include any other info I may be leaving out. Please provide links to your sources. Thank you!
You tease. I got all excited by the thread title.
Tsudeily said:
You tease. I got all excited by the thread title.
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My apologies! I didn't mean for this thread to be misleading!
So we know for sure Verizon is getting the GS3 or is this just another speculation thread?
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Coreym said:
So we know for sure Verizon is getting the GS3 or is this just another speculation thread?
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Speculation I suppose.
I read back around May 3 that "ALL the major US Carriers were doing everything they can to get this phone" or something along those lines.
Let be honest here Verizon is going to get it they are the 2nd largest US carrier and the only reason they didn't get the GSII was because of the Galaxy Nexus....and they fudged that up big time.
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii-spotted-again-in-benchmark-20120514/#entrycontent
Zzim said:
Let be honest here Verizon is going to get it they are the 2nd largest US carrier and the only reason they didn't get the GSII was because of the Galaxy Nexus....and they fudged that up big time.
http://androidcommunity.com/verizon-galaxy-s-iii-spotted-again-in-benchmark-20120514/#entrycontent
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The only GSII that was worth getting was the European one anyways.
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joshnichols189 said:
The only GSII that was worth getting was the European one anyways.
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The Sprint version was better than the international in every way.
SCH-1535 at the Bluetooth Special Interest Group
Looks like it may not be too long until we see the Verizon version after all.
Regardless, the US Version of the SGSII was/IS still a beast of a phone. But back on topic...
I'm assuming SGSIII is coming to the US in LATE june? Any thoughts?
Okay - at least nobody knows for sure like I don't know. I'm hoping for a Verizon version. It would be amazing to get a quad core LTE SoC from Samsung, but likely I'm expecting it to be the dual core S4. Either way I'm all over this phone if it arrives for Verizon.
bogus83 said:
SCH-1535 at the Bluetooth Special Interest Group
Looks like it may not be too long until we see the Verizon version after all.
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Looks like you're right - http://tw.gs/UzU0A
the bluetooth sig looks promising but for price i would assume $300 with 2 year contract. hoping early june for release before verizon decides to change to shared data plan - hoping!!
Muckrak3r said:
Okay - at least nobody knows for sure like I don't know. I'm hoping for a Verizon version. It would be amazing to get a quad core LTE SoC from Samsung, but likely I'm expecting it to be the dual core S4. Either way I'm all over this phone if it arrives for Verizon.
Looks like you're right -
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Unfortunately, currently there's no chance of a quad core with LTE from verizon. The ABSOLUTE BEST we'd get is an Exynos 5 processor, but I highly highly HIGHLY doubt it It's meant for tablets.
So, having said that, the next "best" that a phone like that would support is the S4 :/ I'd honestly rather have a 3G quad core I think. I'm not sure though, tough choice.
kls629 said:
the bluetooth sig looks promising but for price i would assume $300 with 2 year contract. hoping early june for release before verizon decides to change to shared data plan - hoping!!
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What exactly is happening to the data plan...? I read about it somewhere a while back, but unfortunately didn't pay attention to it much.
I currently have a family plan, and my phone has unlimited data and texting, but the family plan has like 700 minutes or something... Not entirely sure, as I do not use calling much.
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Unfortunately, currently there's no chance of a quad core with LTE from verizon. The ABSOLUTE BEST we'd get is an Exynos 5 processor, but I highly highly HIGHLY doubt it It's meant for tablets.
So, having said that, the next "best" that a phone like that would support is the S4 :/ I'd honestly rather have a 3G quad core I think. I'm not sure though, tough choice.
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Well for me, switching to the SIII is a massive upgrade of hardware over my Epic 4G, even if it is the S4. And switching from Sprint to Verizon will be a monster upgrade in the network. I have to switch to Verizon, just waiting for this phone to do so.....
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What exactly is happening to the data plan...? I read about it somewhere a while back, but unfortunately didn't pay attention to it much.
I currently have a family plan, and my phone has unlimited data and texting, but the family plan has like 700 minutes or something... Not entirely sure, as I do not use calling much.
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the shared data plan verizon is forcing on people is going to kill the unlimited data plans for grandfathered people
which allows you to share your tiered data plan (2Gb, 4Gb, etc.) with your entire family or devices on your plan
once your contract is up and want to upgrade your phone, you will not be allowed to keep the unlimited data. unless you want to pay the full price of your new phone you can keep it.
verizon has not said when the shared data plan will come in too effect, but only "this summer".
so i am hoping verizon holds out long enough until sgs3 comes out
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I'd honestly rather have a 3G quad core I think. I'm not sure though, tough choice.
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I'm now seeing this choice for myself as well. Where I live and where my wife works, there's only 3G available on Verizon. Where I work and during most of my commute 4G LTE is available. I'm not sure that I want to give up the quad core just for part-time LTE usage that will drain my battery more anyways....
Dang it! Not sure how I will go about it either now.
16Gb 3G version is available for pre-order from Amazon now: http://tw.gs/U1T3d
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Well for me, switching to the SIII is a massive upgrade of hardware over my Epic 4G, even if it is the S4. And switching from Sprint to Verizon will be a monster upgrade in the network. I have to switch to Verizon, just waiting for this phone to do so.....
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Switching from my LG Ally will be a Monster of an upgrade too!
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I'm now seeing this choice for myself as well. Where I live and where my wife works, there's only 3G available on Verizon. Where I work and during most of my commute 4G LTE is available. I'm not sure that I want to give up the quad core just for part-time LTE usage that will drain my battery more anyways....
Dang it! Not sure how I will go about it either now.
16Gb 3G version is available for pre-order from Amazon now: http://tw.gs/U1T3d
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Sounds like the quad-core is the best for your situation too. BUT... I heard that the international version doesn't work with Verizon or AT&T. Maybe they just meant "Compatible with 4G" for those networks, I'm not sure... But look into it a bit more to make sure, I don't see how it wouldn't work with standard 3G cell towers
Who else is psyched about this phone? I'm pre-ordering it as soon as VZW lets me!
My nexus will be rememberd
I can't wait for this. Been looking for a new phone for the past few months and have waited to see when this comes out. Hopefully in June! Gotta get off my Motorola crap.