[Q] Help! Wanting to Root, but Software is updated! - Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I have a Thunderbolt, got it the first day that it came out. Made the decision that I would stick with stock until I'd had enough of it.
Long story short, my boyfriend got the EVO 3D, and rooted it within the week. Naturally I got jealous.
So here's my dilemma, I found the [Updated: 3/26]Easyroot + S-Off [Version 1.6.3.11] root, but I forgot that I had updated my software.
I did a factory reset hoping that it would reverse the update, but apparently I lost all of my information for no reason, because [news flash] it didn't work!
I guess my question now is... What are my options?
Am I screwed and stuck with stock now?
Will there be a new root developed for {stupid-people-who-updated-their-software} like me?
Is there an updated root already out there that I can try?! <~ I've been looking with no sucess!
Please help me!!!!
{{{{&& for those of you who are experienced.. I have been searching the forums for 2 days and I found a post about EVO's, but not Thunderbolt. So I'm sorry if you have managed to see a post with this type of question before. I did try the [Updated: 3/26]Easyroot + S-Off [Version 1.6.3.11] root, but nothing happens. & I didn't know where else to look.}}}

I don't think there has been a new root method for the updated RUU.
So I do believe your out of luck for now.
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That is exactly what I did NOT want to hear

Jcase's manual root method works on ever OTA out there. It's easy too. If you have any questions about it, just hit me up. I'd be happy to help.

Thanks loonatik78 -- i sent you a pm!

Easyroot will still work
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pennie57 said:
Easyroot will still work
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Please.... No.... I don't like saying "told ya so" when it doesn't work and "you're own your own now" when people that used that ask for help.

Maybe but they will try anyway. Then you can't help them.
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pennie57 said:
Maybe but they will try anyway. Then you can't help them.
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I already tried the easy AND 1 click root.. both didn't work, which is y I decided to ask for help on here.
I just wanted to know if there is a way to uninstall the manufacturer's update or if there is a Rom out that works for 1.7 something software... Not run around in circles on the same easy root that I already know won't work bc it says that version 1.2... And lower will work.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
^^ still works fine after OTA

loonatik78 said:
Jcase's manual root method works on ever OTA out there. It's easy too. If you have any questions about it, just hit me up. I'd be happy to help.
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My wife is planning to get a T-Bolt pretty soon and without knowing what 'version' of s/w it will have when it arrives, you're saying 'no worries'. If she wants it rooted (our Eris' have been rooted since the exploit for it was available -- jcase was involved too !), I can use the manual (command-line) method in his sticky thread ?

hallstevenson said:
My wife is planning to get a T-Bolt pretty soon and without knowing what 'version' of s/w it will have when it arrives, you're saying 'no worries'. If she wants it rooted (our Eris' have been rooted since the exploit for it was available -- jcase was involved too !), I can use the manual (command-line) method in his sticky thread ?
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Current rooting methods (manual preferred) will work fine for any stock officially released firmware because it's all still unpatched Froyo so the exploit used still works.
The only time in the future that this will stop working is when the Gingerbread OTA rolls out.

Reason I ask is I am positive I've read from others who've gotten T-Bolts and mistakenly allowed a s/w update, presumably OTA, and now they can't root.
Is GB being pushed to a small # of phones, by chance ?

hallstevenson said:
Reason I ask is I am positive I've read from others who've gotten T-Bolts and mistakenly allowed a s/w update, presumably OTA, and now they can't root.
Is GB being pushed to a small # of phones, by chance ?
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Nope. User error on their part. They probably tried one of the auto-root scripts and then blamed it failing on the OTA.

Absolute_Zero said:
Nope. User error on their part. They probably tried one of the auto-root scripts and then blamed it failing on the OTA.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.

loonatik78 said:
I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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and this is true!!! because last night my new friend loonatik helped me step by step root my phone! and now i LOVE my gingeritis!
my phone was updated [by me when the update first came out] to version 1.70.something.. and i was still able to do a root. it was manual, but considering i had no idea what i was doing.... once i got going with it the task seemed less daunting.

loonatik78 said:
I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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Absolutely this.
courtesy of my rooted bolt

Sorry, turns out it wasn't a T-Bolt after all, but an Incredible 2.
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Absolute_Zero said:
Current rooting methods (manual preferred) will work fine for any stock officially released firmware because it's all still unpatched Froyo so the exploit used still works.
The only time in the future that this will stop working is when the Gingerbread OTA rolls out.
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Okay, my wife got the Thunderbolt yesterday and within minutes of activating it, it prompted us for a s/w update, in the 73.xx mb range in size. I don't know what s/w version it's currently on and I kept rejecting the update. I need to remind her to do the same -- hopefully it's not too late. Or, is there no harm in taking the update ?

hallstevenson said:
Okay, my wife got the Thunderbolt yesterday and within minutes of activating it, it prompted us for a s/w update, in the 73.xx mb range in size. I don't know what s/w version it's currently on and I kept rejecting the update. I need to remind her to do the same -- hopefully it's not too late. Or, is there no harm in taking the update ?
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There's no harm in updating, but there's no point if you plan on rooting it. Part of the rooting method will wipe everything and reset it to an earlier software version. You'll then have to update(Using ROMs from here, not the OTA) to a newer version to catch up to the latest release or whatever ROM you choose to run. You're better off rooting now, then worrying about updates.

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Has anyone received the Verizon 2.1 OTA yet? Is now the 12th..

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Still nothing yet for me. Even if I do get the notification though, I won't upgrade......yet. I'm still on Leak v1.
There were a few people over at Androidforums that said they did, but they were not confirmed. I still don't have it yet, but it's only 9:30 here
Forgot the time changes, im just curious im runnin the third leak and will not be doin the ota unless one of our hard workin devs crack that first and sorry if there was a thread already too, mind is always all over and i forget to search untill i make a new post haha
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I spoke to a Verizon rep yesterday, and from what info he gave me (unconformed) that the 2.1 official update has to be pushed via pc, sync not OTA. Something about the 2.1 first leak was really verizons 2.0 update went wrong. Like I said, its all he said, but on a good note. I told him my modified phone was having problems and he sent me out a new one, 1 day shipping. Kind of nice, and great customer service.
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a guy on androidforums said he got it and he also has screenshots. that might be worth checking out if you want more proof that it is coming.
Modded Handsets Getting OTA?
I am curious if only people running Eris stock 1.5 are getting the Verizon OTA or if modded handsets are getting it too?
Specifically, I would be interested in hearing if anyone running the "official" 2.1 leak (someone who unzipped file PB00IMG.zip from their sd card [don't know if this is considered a "rooted" or "leaked" version]) has received the Verizon approved (May 11) 2.1 update?
I'm running the PB00IMG.zip 2.1 on my Eris and have not yet gotten the OTA. Wonder if I will? Thanks for sharing.
I downgraded to 1.5 from v3 root last night, nothing on the east coast here...
DjCalvin said:
I downgraded to 1.5 from v3 root last night, nothing on the east coast here...
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I thought that wasn't possible??
It's possible if you are on root
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fKngFtd said:
I spoke to a Verizon rep yesterday, and from what info he gave me (unconformed) that the 2.1 official update has to be pushed via pc, sync not OTA. Something about the 2.1 first leak was really verizons 2.0 update went wrong. Like I said, its all he said, but on a good note. I told him my modified phone was having problems and he sent me out a new one, 1 day shipping. Kind of nice, and great customer service.
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Verizon reps usually don't know what they're talking about. They just here rumors like we do. There's been a few people that have gotten the OTA. They said they'll push it out to 1000 the first day, then 9000 the next, so on and so forth. You've just got to be patient my friends.
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I am curious if only people running Eris stock 1.5 are getting the Verizon OTA or if modded handsets are getting it too?
Specifically, I would be interested in hearing if anyone running the "official" 2.1 leak (someone who unzipped file PB00IMG.zip from their sd card [don't know if this is considered a "rooted" or "leaked" version]) has received the Verizon approved (May 11) 2.1 update?
I'm running the PB00IMG.zip 2.1 on my Eris and have not yet gotten the OTA. Wonder if I will? Thanks for sharing.
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From what most of the devs have said, you'll still be able to get the official ota even if you're on the leak. Unless they do a **** move and change one of the versions (baseband, kernel, or something. forget which one) to a lower version than what the leakers have. Then you won't be able to. But I doubt they'd do that, as I don't think htc cares and probably leaked 2.1 themselves.
Wifes Eris is stock 1.5 and nothing on hers yet. Will drop a note here when/if it gets an ota request.
I spoke to a Verizon rep yesterday, and from what info he gave me (unconformed) that the 2.1 official update has to be pushed via pc, sync not OTA. So
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Verizon reps usually don't know what they're talking about. They just here rumors like we do. There's been a few people that have gotten the OTA. They said they'll push it out to 1000 the first day, then 9000 the next, so on and so forth. You've just got to be patient my friends.
I am curious if only people running Eris stock 1.5 are getting the Verizon OTA or if modded handsets are getting it too?
Specifically, I would be i
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From what most of the devs have said, you'll still be able to get the official ota even if you're on the leak. Unless they do a **** move and change one of the versions (baseband, kernel, or something. forget which one) to a lower version than what the leakers have. Then you won't be able to. But I doubt they'd do that, as I don't think htc cares and probably leaked 2.1 themselves.
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Now that number system makes some sence, 1000 and if there is a huge issue cut it, then if that passes, jump up another few thousand ect. Until everyone has the ota, I'm sure it's to keep the airways clear and minimize the possibility of file fragmintation.
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Now that number system makes some sence, 1000 and if there is a huge issue cut it, then if that passes, jump up another few thousand ect. Until everyone has the ota, I'm sure it's to keep the airways clear and minimize the possibility of file fragmintation.
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Exactly.
I have the update waiting on my phone right now, but i do not want to lose root.
mooneyb said:
I have the update waiting on my phone right now, but i do not want to lose root.
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Somebody teach this guy how to grab the download link so we can get the OTA file.
The way I understand it, he would have to start the update, loosing root in the process. Sounds like a win/lose situation. BUT taking one for the team OS always nice.
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mooneyb said:
I have the update waiting on my phone right now, but i do not want to lose root.
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Can you do the following and send it to jcase and zifnab06 , see below quote from jcase:
QUOTE=jcase;6454172]If you are a leaker, please follow this tutorial when updating to the OTA. Get us the url to the OTA zip please.
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If you are interested in looking at the process that HTC/Verizon uses for the OTA updates, you can get the URL for the OTA zip the following way:
Run logcat on the pc and accept the update on the phone
$ adb logcat > logcat_accept.txt
This will sit like this (it continues to log output into the output file) until the phone reboots. At that point, the adb logcat job will terminate, and the name of the zip file will be indicated in the logfile in a message similar to:
W/SystemUpdateHelper( 64): !!! REBOOTING TO INSTALL /cache/desirec-ota-104882.7b1e5cca.zip !!!
Then, take the name of the file and paste it on the end of android.clients.google.com/updates/partner, for instance, for the Eris 1.17.605.1 OTA, the complete url is:
https://android.clients.google.com/updates/partner/desirec-ota-104882.7b1e5cca.zip
bftb0
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Ask If you need help somebody should be able to help.
afoulke said:
Somebody teach this guy how to grab the download link so we can get the OTA file.
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go to this thread /showthread.php?t=680025
I really would like to add to the community, but i don't want to lose my root. I suspect there will be a huge swath of people to get it today. I am not even on VZW, i am on page plus. I know how to grab the link, just don't want to lose wifi tether and oc.

I may root my phone just to get froyo, but is it safe?

Ok, I was thinking about maybe using that one click root app I found on the market but i need to know how safe is it? and is there a fully awesomely working version of Froyo out there or even gingerbread I can use and if so how do I install it?
And when the official froyo update comes out will my phone still be able to revive the over the air update?
Using the OCLF/Root was completely safe and easy, for me at least.
No issues at all doing it, it went very smooth with no issues at all.
Yes -- you can still receive OTA updates once you've rooted.
Ian
def no gingerbread out there for you to run
uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
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uhmmm i think if you arent even sure how to root, maybe you shouldnt get yourself into a beta rom.
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yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
ps- sorry for caps
Safe as in what? Secure wise or bricking your device? The Vibrant is easy to root but secure wise you need to be careful since your device will be "open" to any program getting root access.
I see people use the click app to root their phones. Check it out on YouTube that's where I found the info. Personally I am not going to root my cuz I don't want to deal with the headaches. Yes I have root one android phone before & was successful. I enjoy putting different roms but when I flash CM6 one his first updates on that then later on couldn't change the rom. The reason cuz I had a low memory I was told on the phone internally. So I am taking no chances with phone.
vamp6x6x6x said:
yEA, i KNOW YOU ARE PROB RIGHT BUT i REALLY WANT FROYO SO MUCH
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
NoDataFound said:
Wait a sec fella. It doesn't work this way.
You cant type in all caps, then ps it "sorry for caps"
You should have stopped it when you saw it happening.
That would be like me raping you and then telling you i was sorry for it.
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So are you admitting you like sausage lol
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vamp6x6x6x said:
lol, well, all I have to say for myself is i didnt realize i was doing it til i was done
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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So you couldnt just delete what you typed and typed it correctly?
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Too much work. Easier to add ps.
I be posting this from my wicked awesome vibrant!
Before Rooting....
1) learn how to use the keyboard
2) find out what Froyo and the consequences of installing a beta are
3) No, if you install Froyo probably you won't be able to get the OTA update when available and, you may not be able to roll down if you want to.
I would stay out of it if i was you
not worthy to just root to flash the leaked Froyo... You only get the 'skin' of Froyo.. there is no JIT and GPS is not working
I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
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I would not root, because judging by you, you dont know much about android.
Few devices have froyo,
No devices have gingerbread.
If you think gingerbread, or even froyo is out then chances are you dont know how to use root features.
ps. I am not flaming, k?
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I understand what your saying, and believe me I know a lot about android and actually a little bit about rooting but I am super paranoid about bricking my phone for two reasons:
I love my phone.
I had to pay full price for it.
What I don't understand that much is about different roms and whatnot. As for the Gingerbread thing I was kidding, but I was serious about the Froyo thing...but after reading this thread i have decided that if I do ever root with the one click root app it will only me to install simple things like lag fix, adfree, etc. Thank you for your help.
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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ughnsphotoart;8349227 said:
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Or you can revert to a backup.
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vaughnsphotoart said:
To do it again, I would not root mine. It has been less stable since I rooted it. Crashes to a black screen that says "user fault not kernel panic" and "upload mode". This is using a simple one-click root. So I advise against it.
What you'd find, should a problem occur, is that there is no going back. Folks recommend install this patch and that patch, and deeper down the rabbit hole (further away from stock) you go.
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Simple unroot your phone
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Simple unroot your phone
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you know the one-click root that comes with the one-click lag fix? The unroot part didn't work.
This was my experience hacking on the g1 too... sometimes things worked, sometimes they didn't. When they don't, it's a lousy trip.
I just get sick of messing with it sometimes, and just want it to work.

ota

im a bit confused i read the WIP root thread can we take the ota and still be safe and be able to get rooted ? or should be just wait ? the popup is annoying me
They said they found a exploit that might be promising.... Might is the key word.
As for the few dozen people that wanted to watch that horrible movie and took the update, only time will tell.
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Well unless something new has happened we can't root anyway so why would it hurt to take it. I updated mine 5 minutes after I got it on launch day
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Because the ota update may have closed the "hole" or exploit to root..
Never just take the first few updates until you confirm they are worth it. And to watch a movie that Seth rogan blows in and fix a few apps is not worth losing root, the ota might have just caused the root Nazi
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Could I run a RUU and go back to before I took the ota
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I took the update. Root may or may not ever happen... I had to get my phone functioning correctly. HTC may still unlock this bad boy too...
Ultimately I think you just have to decide what's best for u. Root will have to be attained on phones with the update eventually if development wants to grow.
I don't mind waiting because battery life has been really good for me... That's my main reason for rooting anyway. You may want it for different reasons
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yea the could careless about the movie honestly i want root but i was reading about it should be ok to take the ota and till get root but idk
Team win said ota does not matter.
I took the OTA on launch day because I thought it contained the heavily anticipated S-OFF update...I didn't know the "hazards" of accepting OTA's and it possibly keeping the phone from rooting. I was glad to hear from several sources that the "most promising" exploit isn't OTA-dependent because HTC doesn't even know about it so an OTA wouldn't "close the hole"!
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im a bit confused i read the WIP root thread can we take the ota and still be safe and be able to get rooted ? or should be just wait ? the popup is annoying me
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Go into HTC software update and uncheck the updater. Pull down the notification bar and click cancel on the update. Imo 100% do not take the OTA when they are on to an exploit this big. You have waited so long a few more days and we might have root don't chance it
Can s-off come out and play? You run but you can't hide
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Go into HTC software update and uncheck the updater. Pull down the notification bar and click cancel on the update. Imo 100% do not take the OTA when they are on to an exploit this big. You have waited so long a few more days and we might have root don't chance it
Can s-off come out and play? You run but you can't hide
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Do that and *poof* there goes your annoying ota reminder. Thanks for the tip Aray92. (Though I didn't find it so dreadfully annoying)
...adjusting to life without the trackball
I took the OTA, stripped off as much Sprint bloatware as I could, and I'm getting great battery life out of the stock ROM.
I'm holding HTC to their word that they will provide us with a means to root.
From what I have read the exploit is not in the Hboot or the bootloader.
From my limited knowledge we will need an htc ota to unlock the bootloader. That said I'm sure that update will include all previous updates in the file so what are you hurting by downloading the current update?
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The OTAs thus far are fine, however, it is recommended to avoid any future OTAs as they may patch the exploit that was discovered today by Team Win.
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Team win said ota does not matter.
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my feelings EXACTLY..
every ota that ever happened to the E4g, was eventually overcome by the devs, so, no reason to think this will be any different..
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my feelings EXACTLY..
every ota that ever happened to the E4g, was eventually overcome by the devs, so, no reason to think this will be any different..
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Some longer that other obviously...
2.3.4 ota is bogus
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CheezyNutz..I was 1 of the dumb 12 on here that took the OTA on launch day, lol! If you have waited this long, might as well hang tight for a couple more days bro!
I read that root is going to be possible both with or without the update. So don't worry about it cheesy. We will be able to root just fine as soon as its ready for public use, trust me.
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CheezyNutz..I was 1 of the dumb 12 on here that took the OTA on launch day, lol! If you have waited this long, might as well hang tight for a couple more days bro!
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How was it dumb? It obviously didn't affect root and you've had the joy of using a fully functional phone.

[Q] The Gingerbread leak has everyone stuck

hello, with last night gingerbread leak many of us unrooted users or myself a rooted user who was to lazy to download the rooted verison because the download link was broken. are now stuck with know way of going back. now not everyone cares about beeing stuck but my self and others miss out of the option to root i personaly miss my bamf asop rom that i was falling in love with. from what i gather we are in a holding pattern at the moment i was wondering if any of the great devs over here had attempted or mad any progess in rooting this last leak or if we have found a method to role back to mr2 so we could root that. any insight would be appricated
Didn't alpharev and unrevoked just release a new method that works with the tbolt? I know they released its a beta, but it works on the inc2 with gb
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i dont think that will work for the tbolt
Before saying it won't work on TBolt try it out. Also I believe it does work. I'm not sure if it will work with this new leak but it works on the TBolt from what I've seen.
i do apolgize the post went out before it was finished and because im new to this fourm i have to wait 5mins before making any changes. i would love to try it its worth a shot can someone post me a link and ill report back if it works
this is exactly why i do not install leaked radios or leaked shipped ruu's.
I know it works on the Inc 2 and I'm almost positive that it included the tbolt in the list of devices when your downloading the beta code. It allows you to root the shipped gb on the Inc 2, may work on this version of gb as well.
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just trade your TBolt for an LG Revolution. everyone says that one's the best.
Just go over to the Inc 2 forum here on xda and in general section there should be a thread about rooting gb.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219246
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ok i think i can see the light next issue when i download the program and run it the screen just shows for a second and then goes away is there any other way to get the serial number because it does look like this will work
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ok i think i can see the light next issue when i download the program and run it the screen just shows for a second and then goes away is there any other way to get the serial number because it does look like this will work
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The Revolution and AlphaRevX sites appear to be down for the time being, so even if it does work, it won't without being able to obtain a key for the beta release through the website.
Assuming you still have S-off and a recovery, i.e. you didn't flash the RUU, all hope isn't lost. However if you did, I'm glad I'm not you at the moment.
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The Revolution and AlphaRevX sites appear to be down for the time being, so even if it does work, it won't without being able to obtain a key for the beta release through the website.
Assuming you still have S-off and a recovery, i.e. you didn't flash the RUU, all hope isn't lost. However if you did, I'm glad I'm not you at the moment.
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no stupid me did not wait for the download to be fixed flashed the ruu. and am stuck with s on and sense
yodatom10 said:
ok i think i can see the light next issue when i download the program and run it the screen just shows for a second and then goes away is there any other way to get the serial number because it does look like this will work
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Isn't it under the battery or on the back cover? Or somewhere in settings, about?
Were you able to get a beta key?
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kallyjk said:
Isn't it under the battery or on the back cover? Or somewhere in settings, about?
Were you able to get a beta key?
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i found the serial number in the about section and it spit out a beta key were do i go from there
rooting on gingerbread is pretty much the same process as before, just subbing out psneuter for fr3vo.
I GOT ROOT WOHO thanks to all xda is a amazing place
This is why I would encourage everyone who is rooted to install that hard patched hboot in the dev forum and this problem wouldn't exist. Also not flashing RUUs carelessly Helps but I digress. The only problem with the patched hboot is getting back to s-on is a bit harder. You have to use fastboot with a special command to flash an s-on hboot. Personally I think everyone who is rooted should learn how to use fastboot and ADB anyway but once again digressing. (prob not a real word LOL)
As far as fixing the issue hopefully the Revolutionary tool will still work on that build just have to check the hboot version. If not, as stated previously replacing psnueter with frEVO in the original downgrade process should work.
Edit: sorry a little late I suppose.
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Glad this all worked out for you Yoda, you sounded pretty peeved over at AC Hope you learned a lesson!
Wow, glad you got it fixed. At least now you'll know to be more patient in the future ;-)
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**** Verizon. Seriously what the hell with 11C

Furious right now.
Jesus.
Andr0idoid said:
Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Could you be a little more vague?
Can't revert to 11B
It's expected. Verizon is the Apple of android now. Locking and blocking so they can find ways to make even more $ from subscribers. Its shameful, but it's business. They have maybe the best service and until people start dropping them they can pretty much do what they want.
Just hang in there and hope that someone finds a way to downgrade so you can get root and twrp back. I believe @autoprime is looking into it in another thread. That's a good thing. :good: Be mad at Verizon still, but be patient too.
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Can't revert to 11B
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He means v10b and v10c, of course, and many people are reporting the same issue. It may still be possible to revert to v10b from the OTA'd v10c, which would solve our problems with this OTA, but anyone who has not flashed v10c OTA yet should avoid it best as possible until there is better clear information about reverting.
Remember when Google first updated the Chromecast firmware and that patched the only known exploit for it ? It took a while to get around that. I think the Chromcast Devs eventually did, though...I quit following and just stayed stock.
How about instead of being furious with Verizon, you point the blame at yourself. You're the one who was stupid enough to take an OTA, despite common knowledge being that OTAs will patch exploits and have been known to prevent rolling back to older versions.
Not to pile on, but I am really surprised by the number of folks that have eagerly taken the OTA. As with just about any SW update, it's usually best to let someone else be the guinea pig. Not to say I'm not sympathetic. Still, at least your not on a Samsung. I spent the last year on my GS3 stuck in the past usually running TW 4.1.2, but at least I was free!
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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It looks like you cannot revert to v10b via .tot, either. Still might be a way, but things seem rather bleak about that.
What is bad for us all is that developers, already annoyed at Verizon and LG both, for good reasons, are likely see there very few Verizon LG G3 users that are ever going to be able to benefit from their work left. So, they will give hacking the Verizon G3 up as not worthwhile, maybe, and we will be stuck with a stock-only device. Its a problem to consider.
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GS3 got Knox at 4.4 and couldn't be rolled back as I recall (might even have been when 4.3 released). As bad as that was for the unfortunate folks that took the OTA or had to do a warranty exchange, the worst part was that it fractured the development into two camps, and that seemed to expedite the winding down of dev support for that device. I really hope that isn't what happens to the G3.
FYI- I just saw this post from @autoprime basically suggesting evidence of anti-rollback code in the new BL. Not a shocker, as VZW has been employing that for a while now - at least on Moto and Samsung devices. Sigh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56437577
Yep... First they locked down the S4...and a short time later the S3 got the Knox bootloader essentially locking everyone who updated into using TW. Safestrap helped many but AOSP was no longer an option for them. It really sucked for development on my S4 as you need to know if a room was for mdk or for Safestrap.
I'd hate to see that happen here to the G3...BUT i will not give up a custom recovery just to get the latest update.... Even if the development community never is able to get a working updated rom.
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patience is a virtue
Isn't this a fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354/page20
Someone on that thread found a way to get root and twrp back after the OTA. :good:
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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bkhorn said:
Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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as im writing this, im readying my ultrabook to do the same. Sorry, my Samsung knowledge refers to my Fascinate/Nexus days, when the world made sense lol
I was pretty tempted to take the update. But coming from experience with Motorola, I knew better. I checked the forums first before taking it.
Not to lecture, but any time you root it's best to use the free app Uninstall Expert and freeze any potential updates. It saves a lot of heartache.
Surely this will get patched it's just going to take some time...
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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jfriend33 said:
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
apet8464 said:
I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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So far I love my G3...but the nexus 6 is looking sexy....
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I'm using a droid turbo right now because I broke my g3 screen. Can't stand this p.o.s. Excited for my g3 replacement device. I'll have it 2m and I'll be back to normal.
BTW, screen and digitizer are one in the same on the g3. Crack your screen and touchscreen no longer works. Just FYI
Verizon Moto Droid Turbo... No simultaneous voice and data? What year is it again?

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