Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Could you be a little more vague?
Can't revert to 11B
It's expected. Verizon is the Apple of android now. Locking and blocking so they can find ways to make even more $ from subscribers. Its shameful, but it's business. They have maybe the best service and until people start dropping them they can pretty much do what they want.
Just hang in there and hope that someone finds a way to downgrade so you can get root and twrp back. I believe @autoprime is looking into it in another thread. That's a good thing. :good: Be mad at Verizon still, but be patient too.
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He means v10b and v10c, of course, and many people are reporting the same issue. It may still be possible to revert to v10b from the OTA'd v10c, which would solve our problems with this OTA, but anyone who has not flashed v10c OTA yet should avoid it best as possible until there is better clear information about reverting.
Remember when Google first updated the Chromecast firmware and that patched the only known exploit for it ? It took a while to get around that. I think the Chromcast Devs eventually did, though...I quit following and just stayed stock.
How about instead of being furious with Verizon, you point the blame at yourself. You're the one who was stupid enough to take an OTA, despite common knowledge being that OTAs will patch exploits and have been known to prevent rolling back to older versions.
Not to pile on, but I am really surprised by the number of folks that have eagerly taken the OTA. As with just about any SW update, it's usually best to let someone else be the guinea pig. Not to say I'm not sympathetic. Still, at least your not on a Samsung. I spent the last year on my GS3 stuck in the past usually running TW 4.1.2, but at least I was free!
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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It looks like you cannot revert to v10b via .tot, either. Still might be a way, but things seem rather bleak about that.
What is bad for us all is that developers, already annoyed at Verizon and LG both, for good reasons, are likely see there very few Verizon LG G3 users that are ever going to be able to benefit from their work left. So, they will give hacking the Verizon G3 up as not worthwhile, maybe, and we will be stuck with a stock-only device. Its a problem to consider.
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GS3 got Knox at 4.4 and couldn't be rolled back as I recall (might even have been when 4.3 released). As bad as that was for the unfortunate folks that took the OTA or had to do a warranty exchange, the worst part was that it fractured the development into two camps, and that seemed to expedite the winding down of dev support for that device. I really hope that isn't what happens to the G3.
FYI- I just saw this post from @autoprime basically suggesting evidence of anti-rollback code in the new BL. Not a shocker, as VZW has been employing that for a while now - at least on Moto and Samsung devices. Sigh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56437577
Yep... First they locked down the S4...and a short time later the S3 got the Knox bootloader essentially locking everyone who updated into using TW. Safestrap helped many but AOSP was no longer an option for them. It really sucked for development on my S4 as you need to know if a room was for mdk or for Safestrap.
I'd hate to see that happen here to the G3...BUT i will not give up a custom recovery just to get the latest update.... Even if the development community never is able to get a working updated rom.
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patience is a virtue
Isn't this a fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354/page20
Someone on that thread found a way to get root and twrp back after the OTA. :good:
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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as im writing this, im readying my ultrabook to do the same. Sorry, my Samsung knowledge refers to my Fascinate/Nexus days, when the world made sense lol
I was pretty tempted to take the update. But coming from experience with Motorola, I knew better. I checked the forums first before taking it.
Not to lecture, but any time you root it's best to use the free app Uninstall Expert and freeze any potential updates. It saves a lot of heartache.
Surely this will get patched it's just going to take some time...
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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jfriend33 said:
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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So far I love my G3...but the nexus 6 is looking sexy....
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I'm using a droid turbo right now because I broke my g3 screen. Can't stand this p.o.s. Excited for my g3 replacement device. I'll have it 2m and I'll be back to normal.
BTW, screen and digitizer are one in the same on the g3. Crack your screen and touchscreen no longer works. Just FYI
Verizon Moto Droid Turbo... No simultaneous voice and data? What year is it again?
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So I have a Thunderbolt, got it the first day that it came out. Made the decision that I would stick with stock until I'd had enough of it.
Long story short, my boyfriend got the EVO 3D, and rooted it within the week. Naturally I got jealous.
So here's my dilemma, I found the [Updated: 3/26]Easyroot + S-Off [Version 1.6.3.11] root, but I forgot that I had updated my software.
I did a factory reset hoping that it would reverse the update, but apparently I lost all of my information for no reason, because [news flash] it didn't work!
I guess my question now is... What are my options?
Am I screwed and stuck with stock now?
Will there be a new root developed for {stupid-people-who-updated-their-software} like me?
Is there an updated root already out there that I can try?! <~ I've been looking with no sucess!
Please help me!!!!
{{{{&& for those of you who are experienced.. I have been searching the forums for 2 days and I found a post about EVO's, but not Thunderbolt. So I'm sorry if you have managed to see a post with this type of question before. I did try the [Updated: 3/26]Easyroot + S-Off [Version 1.6.3.11] root, but nothing happens. & I didn't know where else to look.}}}
I don't think there has been a new root method for the updated RUU.
So I do believe your out of luck for now.
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That is exactly what I did NOT want to hear
Jcase's manual root method works on ever OTA out there. It's easy too. If you have any questions about it, just hit me up. I'd be happy to help.
Thanks loonatik78 -- i sent you a pm!
Easyroot will still work
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Easyroot will still work
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Please.... No.... I don't like saying "told ya so" when it doesn't work and "you're own your own now" when people that used that ask for help.
Maybe but they will try anyway. Then you can't help them.
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Maybe but they will try anyway. Then you can't help them.
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I already tried the easy AND 1 click root.. both didn't work, which is y I decided to ask for help on here.
I just wanted to know if there is a way to uninstall the manufacturer's update or if there is a Rom out that works for 1.7 something software... Not run around in circles on the same easy root that I already know won't work bc it says that version 1.2... And lower will work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
^^ still works fine after OTA
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Jcase's manual root method works on ever OTA out there. It's easy too. If you have any questions about it, just hit me up. I'd be happy to help.
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My wife is planning to get a T-Bolt pretty soon and without knowing what 'version' of s/w it will have when it arrives, you're saying 'no worries'. If she wants it rooted (our Eris' have been rooted since the exploit for it was available -- jcase was involved too !), I can use the manual (command-line) method in his sticky thread ?
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My wife is planning to get a T-Bolt pretty soon and without knowing what 'version' of s/w it will have when it arrives, you're saying 'no worries'. If she wants it rooted (our Eris' have been rooted since the exploit for it was available -- jcase was involved too !), I can use the manual (command-line) method in his sticky thread ?
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Current rooting methods (manual preferred) will work fine for any stock officially released firmware because it's all still unpatched Froyo so the exploit used still works.
The only time in the future that this will stop working is when the Gingerbread OTA rolls out.
Reason I ask is I am positive I've read from others who've gotten T-Bolts and mistakenly allowed a s/w update, presumably OTA, and now they can't root.
Is GB being pushed to a small # of phones, by chance ?
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Reason I ask is I am positive I've read from others who've gotten T-Bolts and mistakenly allowed a s/w update, presumably OTA, and now they can't root.
Is GB being pushed to a small # of phones, by chance ?
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Nope. User error on their part. They probably tried one of the auto-root scripts and then blamed it failing on the OTA.
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Nope. User error on their part. They probably tried one of the auto-root scripts and then blamed it failing on the OTA.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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and this is true!!! because last night my new friend loonatik helped me step by step root my phone! and now i LOVE my gingeritis!
my phone was updated [by me when the update first came out] to version 1.70.something.. and i was still able to do a root. it was manual, but considering i had no idea what i was doing.... once i got going with it the task seemed less daunting.
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I completely agree. Many of the rooting scripts out there are either out of date or use obsolete exploits. The OTA back in April, I think it was, required new exploits be used. Jcase has been on that like white on rice and I'm going to say this community stands strongly behind jcase and the method he's outlined. It has the best success rate, without question. Plus, everyone always says its much easier than it looks. If setting up the SDK or ADB is confusing, we are always glad to help too.
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Absolutely this.
courtesy of my rooted bolt
Sorry, turns out it wasn't a T-Bolt after all, but an Incredible 2.
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Current rooting methods (manual preferred) will work fine for any stock officially released firmware because it's all still unpatched Froyo so the exploit used still works.
The only time in the future that this will stop working is when the Gingerbread OTA rolls out.
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Okay, my wife got the Thunderbolt yesterday and within minutes of activating it, it prompted us for a s/w update, in the 73.xx mb range in size. I don't know what s/w version it's currently on and I kept rejecting the update. I need to remind her to do the same -- hopefully it's not too late. Or, is there no harm in taking the update ?
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Okay, my wife got the Thunderbolt yesterday and within minutes of activating it, it prompted us for a s/w update, in the 73.xx mb range in size. I don't know what s/w version it's currently on and I kept rejecting the update. I need to remind her to do the same -- hopefully it's not too late. Or, is there no harm in taking the update ?
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There's no harm in updating, but there's no point if you plan on rooting it. Part of the rooting method will wipe everything and reset it to an earlier software version. You'll then have to update(Using ROMs from here, not the OTA) to a newer version to catch up to the latest release or whatever ROM you choose to run. You're better off rooting now, then worrying about updates.
Moms X2 finally died, and I picked her up a new s4 on ebay. I need to get her permanent root and wifi tether. She currently has 4.3 and it's trying to get me to accept an update. I'm working on 2 hours of sleep in the past 2 days, and I'm not sure where to begin. Should I keep it at 4.3 or take the update. I've been through the forums a bit, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what the best/safest path is to take for her phone to accomplish what's needed. Any advice and or links would be much appreciated, so I don't have to spend the next two hours researching what the best option is. Sorry for being lazy tonight, I'm a bit overworked atm.
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Moms X2 finally died, and I picked her up a new s4 on ebay. I need to get her permanent root and wifi tether. She currently has 4.3 and it's trying to get me to accept an update. I'm working on 2 hours of sleep in the past 2 days, and I'm not sure where to begin. Should I keep it at 4.3 or take the update. I've been through the forums a bit, but I'm having a little trouble figuring out what the best/safest path is to take for her phone to accomplish what's needed. Any advice and or links would be much appreciated, so I don't have to spend the next two hours researching what the best option is. Sorry for being lazy tonight, I'm a bit overworked atm.
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First off, never ever take an OTA update. You might possibly have an MDK bootloader and that's worth a lot around here. Go to "about phone" and give us some details about your phone. After that we can help you more.
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First off, never ever take an OTA update. You might possibly have an MDK bootloader and that's worth a lot around here. Go to "about phone" and give us some details about your phone. After that we can help you more.
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Pretty sure if its already on 4.3 its not an MDK bootloader. In that case you may as well just accept the OTA and use towelroot to root it.
It is possible to upgrade to KitKat and still keep that 4.3 bootloader but it is an involved process for what is probably zero return.
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jmgib said:
Pretty sure if its already on 4.3 its not an MDK bootloader. In that case you may as well just accept the OTA and use towelroot to root it.
It is possible to upgrade to KitKat and still keep that 4.3 bootloader but it is an involved process for what is probably zero return.
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It's mk2.
So update, towelroot, safestrap 3.72, install the zip to unlock toggles and tether?
I'm not going to put a rom on this phone. She is so lost on these things anyways, I wouldn't want to confuse her, so saving the bootloader for possible future exploit is pointless. As long as the phone works and she can tether to her laptop for netflix life is good.
Is towelroot as good as the previous root. I thought I read somewhere, that it's kind of hokey.
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It's mk2.
So update, towelroot, safestrap 3.72, install the zip to unlock toggles and tether?
I'm not going to put a rom on this phone. She is so lost on these things anyways, I wouldn't want to confuse her, so saving the bootloader for possible future exploit is pointless. As long as the phone works and she can tether to her laptop for netflix life is good.
Is towelroot as good as the previous root. I thought I read somewhere, that it's kind of hokey.
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Towelroot is money. Easy money at that.
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liljoe727 said:
Towelroot is money. Easy money at that.
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All done.
Took update
towelroot
supersu
busybox
safestrap
installed I545VRUFNC5_enable_tether.zip
Working great thanks.
I'm due for an upgrade and I like the lg g3 because of the screen size and smallish body. And also its rootbale. But if you could upgrade right now would you choose the g3 again or maybe the droid turbo or note 4 or nexus 6? I have a rooted note 2 right now and love the screen size and the stuff I can customize on it. I hear good things about the g3 other than battery doesn't last to long. What are your thoughts?
Well MY LG G3 has a fantastic battery and I am not rooted...I compare it to the Droid RAZR MAXX with a 3300 ma/h it's replacing. I have had the G3 for 8 days. That said...I do not stream video or play tunes. Yesterday, when I had 44 minutes of screen time and the phone off charge for 10 hours I was at 84%. I am good with that!
There is nothing wrong EXCEPT the bottom microphone. It is positioned on the bottom left when you face the phone and better positioned for those that hold the phone to their Right ear not the left. Regardless it still does not have the best pickup when compared to even much older phones. I am unsure if it's a software or hardware issue. I think hardware as I exchanged my first G3 after 5 days for this reason. The replacement is no better. Lots written on the internet about this problem. For me, as a right ear talker, holding the phone lower so the palm 'cups' allows my voice to rebound into the mic.
Other than the above it is a kick butt phone. The camera is excellent as in no LAG. Many users key on megapixels. I key on LAG the Turbo is bad laggy!
The major customization I use is Nova Launcher Prime. You must install Nova Launcher first: NOVA Launcher. I believe this reduces any UI phone lag people talk about. My G3 is smooth and fast! You do lose the knock-knock off on the screen but by double tapping the status bar the phone shuts off and by using Nova Prime and it's gestures and the Screen off app Screen Off you have the same function.
I went to two different Verizon stores and talked to more than 4 agents as I upgraded then exchanged. Everyone said that the G3 was best of its size and class. For me that was Turbo, Droid MAXX, Galaxy S5 and Xperia Zv3
Verizon gives you a 14 day $35 exchange period.
Wouldn't even have to think about it. The Droid Turbo, and Note 4 have locked bootloaders, that will probably never be unlocked, and the Nexus 6, doesn't have a memory card slot, or a removable battery. LG G3, FTW! BTW, I find battery life to be perfectly acceptable, with this phone. It lasts me all day.
As long as it can last from 630am to maybe 11pm with about 3.5 hours screen time I'd be happy. I really would love to have a phone that can be rooted still but I've never had an android phone that wasn't rooted so I don't k know if it would bother me or not
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I've never had an android phone that wasn't rooted so I don't k know if it would bother me or not
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It would bother the crap out of me. I suppose, once they start locking down all phones, for good, I'll have to switch to a Nexus. That is, if Verizon continues to carry Nexus devices. Can't give up my unlimited data.
spotmark said:
It would bother the crap out of me. I suppose, once they start locking down all phones, for good, I'll have to switch to a Nexus. That is, if Verizon continues to carry Nexus devices. Can't give up my unlimited data.
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Is your g3 rooted and unlocked?
timmyd463229 said:
Is your g3 rooted and unlocked?
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You bet, and running AOSP. :victory:
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You bet, and running AOSP. :victory:
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Nice. Can it be unlocked and rooted without a computer?
timmyd463229 said:
Nice. Can it be unlocked and rooted without a computer?
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Yep, Stump app, to root, and you can use Terminal Emulator to "Bump" TWRP. Check out the development sections.
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Nice. Can it be unlocked and rooted without a computer?
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Yup. It can be done with stump root and flashify to load your recovery. 2 apps - 10minutes - rooted and bootloader unlocked. You'll be really happy with a G3
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Yep, Stump app, to unlock, and you can use Terminal Emulator to "Bump" TWRP. Check out the development sections.
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OK will do thanks man. I'm thinking this might be my next phone.
startswithPendswithOOH said:
Yup. It can be done with stump root and flashify to load your recovery. 2 apps - 10minutes - rooted and bootloader unlocked. You'll be really happy with a G3
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So you can use flashify instead of bump? I've used flahify a few times on my note 2 its a nice app
timmyd463229 said:
So you can use flashify instead of bump? I've used flahify a few times on my note 2 its a nice app
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Yes, you can use Flashify, instead of ADB commands. Also, be aware, if your phone comes with the 11C build, you'll have to roll it back to the 10B build, beforehand.
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Yes, you can use Flashify, instead of ADB commands.
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Nice so stump to root them flashify bump twrp then can back up and flash bump Roms? Sounds easier than my of Motorola droid lol
timmyd463229 said:
Nice so stump to root them flashify bump twrp then can back up and flash bump Roms? Sounds easier than my of Motorola droid lol
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yes, if you are on 10b. since they will activate and do all the crap you may have the updated 11c. no worries. just flash back to 10b and stump and bump and install the rom of your choice or just stick with stock and freeze apps. I'm currently running jasmine3.0 which is the 11c updated onto the stock rom with all vzw apps frozen. I like this phone so much I wish I could buy a backup incase I lose or drop it cause I'm sure I'll be happy with it for the next 2 or 3 years. I'm afraid they might come blocked with a newer updated firmaware where we can't stump and especially bump it.
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yes, if you are on 10b. since they will activate and do all the crap you may have the updated 11c. no worries. just flash back to 10b and stump and bump and install the rom of your choice or just stick with stock and freeze apps. I'm currently running jasmine3.0 which is the 11c updated onto the stock rom with all vzw apps frozen. I like this phone so much I wish I could buy a backup incase I lose or drop it cause I'm sure I'll be happy with it for the next 2 or 3 years. I'm afraid they might come blocked with a newer updated firmaware where we can't stump and especially bump it.
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How do you go back to 10b?
To get back to v10b, you read threads here on XDA until you understand one of the clearly explained methods and use that. .kdz or .tot flashing is what you are looking for. Kdz is easier.
trent999 said:
To get back to v10b, you read threads here on XDA until you understand one of the clearly explained methods and use that. .kdz or .tot flashing is what you are looking for. Kdz is easier.
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OK thank you
Just seen on TV that if you get the g3 you can get the g pad for $20 that will be great
The new blue version at best buy is beautimous...
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I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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Nope. I have my phone setup perfectly. I'm on 10B, haven't even updated to 12B/C/D or whatever. I would update to deodexed 12B if there was good enough reason, but I definitely wouldn't jump to lollypop. I won't use lollypop until my next phone (G4 once it gains root).
I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I agree I will once a Dev makes a ROM of it that way we can jump back if we don't like it or there are problems
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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Shouldn't be a problem if you've frozen or removed the updater like a good boy should ?
Coming from the Moto X 2014, I enjoyed 3 months of Lollipop unrooted. On a Verizon phone at that, go figure. I'm hoping to take 5.0 or whatever version is served up to us asap...
Battery life seems to have taken a bit of a plunge in LP according to this
http://blog.gsmarena.com/benchmarking-android-5-0-lollipop-battery-life-samsung-galaxy-s5-lg-g3/
What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
PhoneBill said:
What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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On VZW you should freeze the following, not sure on a custom rom
com.lge.lgfota.permission
System Updates
It depends on whether or not LP fixes the audio hiss issue. My phone is my portable mp3 player, and although I love having root, it's gotta be a good phone and good music player first. So frustrating hearing hiss while listening to music... I'd lose root in a heartbeat if they fixed this.
Lollipop is super sweet... Kinda hard not to want it on my g3 after using on my Nexus 7 2013. I mean basically with me running a ROM I have a Nexus 6 with removable battery and expandable memory lol...
I am a little disappointed in Stock lollipop on the other carriers. I do like the new notifications, task mgr, users, etc but I just like the status bar toggles as they are in Stock lollipop...
Luckily xposed is now slowly creeping into lollipop so I'd say in a month life will be sweet!
Although, real talk, if the g4 comes out with 4gbs of ram (yes I know it's not needed but I want it for future proofing) I'd probably sell my g3. But honestly lol I really do love my g3, g watch, etc and am very content hanging on!
some people still use Polaroid instant cameras.
I will update at the first second available.
Depends on if I can keep root across the OTA. I've been able to keep it from 10b to 12b, we'll see what the reports are out there. If I can keep it, and if I can downgrade back to 10b if needs be, then I'll probably try it out.
LP on my Nexus 7 (2012) has been hit or miss. After it's been up and running for awhile, my Nexus 7 will just freeze and I'll have to reboot. I don't have that issue with KK, especially on my G3. The G3 currently runs smooth and I rarely reboot it, ever. And it runs just fine.
So, I'll have to wait and see how things go with LP on this device. As it is, there is a memory leak in the latest version and no word yet from Google on if/when that gets fixed.
**NOTE** There is no reason to take this OTA any more. There are two custom-stock ROMs based on 35B. See "Edit III" below for links!
Well, it is confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt that this build can't be rooted. The currently known root method for 5.1.1 LG devices, along with every prior root method all fail. **Note attempting root will take your Software Status to "Modified", even though the actual root fails. We do not know whether this will prevent taking future OTAs at this juncture.
More importantly, this build cannot be downgraded using the KDZ method. You can, in fact, downgrade using the TOT method. See EDIT II at the bottom of this post.
It's interesting to note that the Verizon G3 update page has this to say about 35B:
Upgrade to Android™ Lollipop v5.1.1, which features a new interface and tighter security features
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That could be innocuous, or it could be precisely why we can't root or downgrade any more. I'm guessing the latter.
So please, consider yourself warned, for now if you upgrade to build 35B (which is the LG/Verizon official 5.1.1 Lollipop update), there is no going back and there is no root. I'll certainly update the OP with any developments that come along.
If anybody hears about a new root method for LG phones, please don't hesitate to post here and we'll be happy to investigate it. Would that I were smart enough to figure out how to root phones myself, but that's beyond my abilities. Godspeed everyone already on 35B.
Big thanks to:
@roirraW "edor" ehT for coming along with me and being a fellow guinea pig, helping test and verify all of these problems.
@Unjustified Dev for attempting to help try and get this thing rooted.
Trying to look at the bright side, if you see my comments about performance and battery life, this build is actually quite good, especially for stock LG/VZW, so good on them for actually putting out usable, well-written software (unlike their 5.0.2 build).
EDIT - The KDZ file is now available for build 35B. Get it on AFH Here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347834649 or straight from LG here: http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW5EEB7232L2ATO02223HOO/VS98535B_00_ARB00.kdz
Remember, you cannot root this build right now. You've been warned. This is posted essentially for people that are already on 35B and experimenting with rooting. Now we can get back to 'official' status if we want.
EDIT II - We can now downgrade! Thanks to @agh1701 for figuring that out. You need to download a DLL file (see post #84) and use the TOT method (instructions here).
EDIT III - Stock-based ROM builds using 35B as the base:
SkyDragon 6.0.1 (comes complete with a custom kernel!) by @HolyAngel
Jasmine 9.0 by @hsbadr
Thanks for the very good information. I did not know that they prevented downgrade. Hopefully we can at least get a 35B KDZ file soon.
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@hokiealumnus Man...that kind of sucks. Hopefully someone will be able to figure it out soon. No more Candy for you ...and Halloween is right around the corner too
Thanks for having the courage to try the new build & providing feedback. I'm sure your info saved, and will save, a bunch of people from taking the update and losing root. A thousand thanks to you my friend :good:
I'm crossing my fingers for you to get root back ASAP :fingers-crossed:
I don't know if this is true or not and do not mean to perpetuate rumors, but I saw this posted as a comment in the droid life article announcing the update:
"........ JoeInMO • a day ago
If you're rooted and use Wi-Fi tether hotspot (unlimited data users) you're out of luck with this update. Also the new modem seems to automatically throttle data speeds and limits. If you're stock it may be OK, but if you're rooted DO NOT install this update (and you won't keep root). The FASTEST modem for the LG G3 is the 12B modem. The 23A and 23B are slower (I've checked in many places in the USA). It seems they're trying to limit the use of unpaid wi-fi Hotspot usage via the modem. There is NOTHING beneficial to a rooted user and make sure and BLOCK this update. If you're stock then go for it. Just another LG screw up." http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/06/verizons-lg-g3-gets-update-to-android-5-1-1-vs98535b/
But, in the spirit of trying to prevent people from losing wifi tethering on unlimited, here it is, take it with a gos...
so confirmed can't downgrade? tot method I would think would work... altho technically kdz should too.. If we can't even get root on this or downgrade there isn't gonna be any roms based on it... and even less chance of getting stock M on our phones with root. Super sucks having a locked bootloader :crying:
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so confirmed can't downgrade? tot method I would think would work... altho technically kdz should too.. If we can't even get root on this or downgrade there isn't gonna be any roms based on it... and even less chance of getting stock M on our phones with root. Super sucks having a locked bootloader :crying:
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Well, roirraW "edor" ehT is hopeful that they will release a KDZ that can be extracted to build stock-based ROMs off of. However, those of us that upgraded hoping to get images quickly are stuck for now.
I've never tried TOT, so I'll have to research that some more, but I'm scared to do it, because what if (rather than blinking a couple times and doing nothing), it works but triggers a counter that hard bricks the phone? That's, regrettably, not something I can chance, because this is the only phone I've got with no budget for a new one.
Before this week, I'd have said you were crazy if you said I wouldn't be able to downgrade, because that's how it's been through four different builds now. At this point, they've scared the initiative right out of me.
What I'm truly hoping for is root, with the ability to install TWRP and get this mess resolved that way. There seem to be smart people willing to work on it.
This doesn't surprise me given how Verizon treats the rooting community as a whole. Heck they were pretty reluctant to even carry any Nexus devices at all and even then it's like pulling teeth to get them to sell them at all.
Right right... I can try myself but if it ends up being zero chance of downgrading then no more development on this device from me unless we eventually get root or unlocked bootloaders.. I don't have an issue risking it since I don't need my g3, but just a heads up.. I might try it tonight since I have the tot files to restore back if its possible.
An extracted system and boot would be all we need for a rom to be a made tho..
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HolyAngel said:
Right right... I can try myself but if it ends up being zero chance of downgrading then no more development on this device from me unless we eventually get root or unlocked bootloaders.. I don't have an issue risking it since I don't need my g3, but just a heads up.. I might try it tonight since I have the tot files to restore back if its possible.
An extracted system and boot would be all we need for a rom to be a made tho..
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Hmm...perhaps you should hold off, since you're the only stock-rom-dev-with-the-device we have. If you get your device locked to 35B you'll doom SkyDragon followers! If you keep your device away from 35B, you can still make a SD build from the extracted KDZ, assuming they do release one, which I presume they will eventually.
@roirraW "edor" ehT , do you plan on attempting TOT? If you do it, maybe that will act as proof-of-concept & keep @HolyAngel 's from being potentially locked. Totally understand if you don't want to do that too...can't expect others to take the risk when I'm not willing!
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Hmm...perhaps you should hold off, since you're the only stock-rom-dev-with-the-device we have. If you get your device locked to 35B you'll doom SkyDragon followers! If you keep your device away from 35B, you can still make a SD build from the extracted KDZ, assuming they do release one, which I presume they will eventually.
@roirraW "edor" ehT , do you plan on attempting TOT? If you do it, maybe that will act as proof-of-concept & keep @HolyAngel 's from being potentially locked. Totally understand if you don't want to do that too...can't expect others to take the risk when I'm not willing!
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Hmm yeah, guess I'll wait then and see. Hopefully someone figures it out ^^
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hokiealumnus said:
Hmm...perhaps you should hold off, since you're the only stock-rom-dev-with-the-device we have. If you get your device locked to 35B you'll doom SkyDragon followers! If you keep your device away from 35B, you can still make a SD build from the extracted KDZ, assuming they do release one, which I presume they will eventually.
@roirraW "edor" ehT , do you plan on attempting TOT? If you do it, maybe that will act as proof-of-concept & keep @HolyAngel 's from being potentially locked. Totally understand if you don't want to do that too...can't expect others to take the risk when I'm not willing!
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I plan on it, but since I never had any success using the TOT method, and one of the things I was going to try to get it working for me is do it from another PC. I need to set one of my spare junk PCs up to do it, just don't know how soon I'll get around to it, real life, you know.
I might try it again on the PC I tried it on several times before, that'll be less effort. Windows has been reinstalled many many times since I last tried.
[VK810.4G] [altev] [ViKtory810ROM] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2
[VK810.4G] [altev] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2 DEBLOAT SCRIPTS and copies of all the files they remove
[VK810.4G] [altev] OTAs, .IMGs and KDZs, oh my
Tot does NOT work either. The update also removes the ability for wireless charging the device.
Edit: Turns out my wife and I both had a bad update. I used repair assistant and wireless charging is working again.
timboger said:
Tot does NOT work either. The update also removes the ability to wireless charge the device.
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Wow. Has any other G3 gotten this 5.1.1 update?
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timboger said:
The update also removes the ability for wireless charging the device.
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Why would they do this?? It feels like this build is built on spite!
Not that I use wireless charging since I like the cable better but this is just to pretty much say "we don't care for users and they can only do what we tell them". I'm so glad to be going to the Nexus 6P when it arrives.
RHChan84 said:
Not that I use wireless charging since I like the cable better but this is just to pretty much say "we don't care for users and they can only do what we tell them". I'm so glad to be going to the Nexus 6P when it arrives.
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I'm so done with Verizon on every level.
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NBreunig3 said:
I'm so done with Verizon on every level.
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Im happy with their cell service but everything else is "eh". My bill is pretty cheap. 40GB unlimited everything else with 3 smart phones and one dumb phone for $280/month. I travel a lot and VZW could not be matched by ATT nor Sprint since I was always the person with service meanwhile others did not.
I hate how they lock things down. This is where apple shines because they say "we sell phones and people want our phones, you will listen to us because a lot of people want iphones and its a big chunk of your users".
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Im happy with their cell service but everything else is "eh". My bill is pretty cheap. 40GB unlimited everything else with 3 smart phones and one dumb phone for $280/month. I travel a lot and VZW could not be matched by ATT nor Sprint since I was always the person with service meanwhile others did not.
I hate how they lock things down. This is where apple shines because they say "we sell phones and people want our phones, you will listen to us because a lot of people want iphones and its a big chunk of your users".
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That's what bothers me too. Verizon makes everything lockdown. They are a dictator.
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NBreunig3 said:
That's what bothers me too. Verizon makes everything lockdown. They are a dictator.
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Exactly. For a while they wanted everyone to use that payment thing they had but after a little while, Google wallet was allowed but this was probably months ago. I'm just glad I'm going towards the Nexus so no more of that crap. Them going to full price phones sucks but T-Mobile did it and probably ATT isnt not far behind and sprint.
Anyone else's battery life worse on this update?
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