I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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Nope. I have my phone setup perfectly. I'm on 10B, haven't even updated to 12B/C/D or whatever. I would update to deodexed 12B if there was good enough reason, but I definitely wouldn't jump to lollypop. I won't use lollypop until my next phone (G4 once it gains root).
I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I agree I will once a Dev makes a ROM of it that way we can jump back if we don't like it or there are problems
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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Shouldn't be a problem if you've frozen or removed the updater like a good boy should ?
Coming from the Moto X 2014, I enjoyed 3 months of Lollipop unrooted. On a Verizon phone at that, go figure. I'm hoping to take 5.0 or whatever version is served up to us asap...
Battery life seems to have taken a bit of a plunge in LP according to this
http://blog.gsmarena.com/benchmarking-android-5-0-lollipop-battery-life-samsung-galaxy-s5-lg-g3/
What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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On VZW you should freeze the following, not sure on a custom rom
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It depends on whether or not LP fixes the audio hiss issue. My phone is my portable mp3 player, and although I love having root, it's gotta be a good phone and good music player first. So frustrating hearing hiss while listening to music... I'd lose root in a heartbeat if they fixed this.
Lollipop is super sweet... Kinda hard not to want it on my g3 after using on my Nexus 7 2013. I mean basically with me running a ROM I have a Nexus 6 with removable battery and expandable memory lol...
I am a little disappointed in Stock lollipop on the other carriers. I do like the new notifications, task mgr, users, etc but I just like the status bar toggles as they are in Stock lollipop...
Luckily xposed is now slowly creeping into lollipop so I'd say in a month life will be sweet!
Although, real talk, if the g4 comes out with 4gbs of ram (yes I know it's not needed but I want it for future proofing) I'd probably sell my g3. But honestly lol I really do love my g3, g watch, etc and am very content hanging on!
some people still use Polaroid instant cameras.
I will update at the first second available.
Depends on if I can keep root across the OTA. I've been able to keep it from 10b to 12b, we'll see what the reports are out there. If I can keep it, and if I can downgrade back to 10b if needs be, then I'll probably try it out.
LP on my Nexus 7 (2012) has been hit or miss. After it's been up and running for awhile, my Nexus 7 will just freeze and I'll have to reboot. I don't have that issue with KK, especially on my G3. The G3 currently runs smooth and I rarely reboot it, ever. And it runs just fine.
So, I'll have to wait and see how things go with LP on this device. As it is, there is a memory leak in the latest version and no word yet from Google on if/when that gets fixed.
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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Before you get to excited, you might want to check what firmware version you have.
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Before you get to excited, you might want to check what firmware version you have.
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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As far as I know (which I'm not 100%sure since I'm on mdk) you cannot flash custom roms yet if on the latest update (mj7 with Android 4.3) If you're lucky enough (unlikely) to get one with me7 firmware, you can flash custom roms with safestrap. This phone is not doing so well in the development area as I expected it would before release. Hopefully someone can figure out a way around the locked down bootloader
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That was painfully vague. Care to elaborate?
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That makes it painfully obvious that you haven't read much around here.
What you first need to know is what firmware version you have. That determines what you can do.
What you asked is equivalent to saying that you have a car then asking what you can do to improve it - no data on what year or model, or what you want to do. Without that info, how can anyone help you? If you can't even be bothered to figure out what build you have to start with, nobody can suggest anything to help you.
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As far as I know (which I'm not 100%sure since I'm on mdk) you cannot flash custom roms yet if on the latest update (mj7 with Android 4.3) If you're lucky enough (unlikely) to get one with me7 firmware, you can flash custom roms with safestrap. This phone is not doing so well in the development area as I expected it would before release. Hopefully someone can figure out a way around the locked down bootloader
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I managed to figure that out a couple minutes ago. I actually got pushed to ME7 while I was rooting my S4 (ironic?) and was able to stop it after that. So, it seems I was one of the lucky(ish) ones. Would've been nice to stay at MDK, but SafeStrap seems to be one hell of a tool.
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I just got back home with my shiny new S4 and I can't wait to get the thing rooted and rom'd. But! Before I take the dive, I'd like to test the waters of this lovely phone's community.
If you have a few minutes to spare:
- What rom/kernel are you using? Why?
- What is one thing that you wish you knew about the S4 before flashing?
Thanks!
- EJ
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Hey there... I remember you from the Fascinate forums. I finally ended up getting an S4 about 2 1/2 months ago and for the most part it's a great device, but you can't expect near the same freedom as you had with the Fascinate.
When I got mine I ended up with ME7 so it sounds like you're in the same boat. I have mine rooted, but decided not to use Safestrap because of the limitations it brings (mainly the storage issue). I'm pretty happy with how I have mine set up and it's pretty snappy overall, but I really do wish I had gotten an MDK in order to really flash roms like I used to on my Fascinate.
If you choose to use Safestrap then go nuts and I hope you find some roms you like (Hyperdrive seems to get the most love around here from what I've noticed). I'll just quickly list off the modifications I did to mine that got it to where I like it:
-Froze all bloat with Titanium, including the SDM 1.0 (to prevent unwanted updates)
-Got rid of e911 icon and ongoing WiFi notification
-Installed the International Voice Dialer with call recording
-Installed Volume Boost mod (increased it around 50% over stock)
-Installed Xposed Framework so I could use Greenify features
-Used Greenify to hibernate all misbehaving apps (examples would be Facebook and Google Play Store) (... this increased battery life A LOT)
-Installed AdAway (adblocker)
-Turned all animations down to .5 in developer options and disabled all hovering effects on the lock screen
Doing all that really made this thing a lot better than it was, but I'm still hoping for a true bootloader unlock to start playing with it more. I have found a lot of the Touchwiz features to be quite useful, like the voice control stuff, camera app, etc, so I would probably stick with a modded Touchwiz rom if I had the option. Good luck.
edit: Oh and another thing you might not be aware of - the camera is set to 9.5MP by default in the app, you need to go into settings to use the native 13MP resolution.
One thing to note that no one mentioned (and in case you didn't read elsewhere) is that with SafeStrap you can not use ROMs with custom kernels. So that means no AOSP based ROMs like CM, Carbon, PACman and others since they are all using a custom kernel. At least until they get KEXEC working with SafeStrap (if they get it working). So basically you can only use modded TW roms with a stock kernel.
My g3 has some serious lag lately and from what I understand LG released an update that specificly corrects it. I'm not rooted or Bumped yet (waiting for stable ROM). Should I get the update, or will that screw up my chances of rooting and bumping?
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My g3 has some serious lag lately and from what I understand LG released an update that specificly corrects it. I'm not rooted or Bumped yet (waiting for stable ROM). Should I get the update, or will that screw up my chances of rooting and bumping?
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I would, root, unlock, and install Jasmine ROM. The ROM is quite snappy, and battery life much improved. Forget about the update. I haven't heard about any update, anyway.
Just checked my system update and nothing. Where is this update?
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Just checked my system update and nothing. Where is this update?
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I haven't received notification of update from Verizon or anything. I just read this a couple of days ago and figured eventually (in a year or so) Verizon would get it and send it out. Here's one of the places that talks about it:
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/1...tedly-gets-new-update-to-fix-ui-lag-issue.htm
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I would, root, unlock, and install Jasmine ROM. The ROM is quite snappy, and battery life much improved. Forget about the update. I haven't heard about any update, anyway.
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Thanks I'm gonna check that out. My last phone was a gnex and i ran Shiny ROM on it. Was very stable (minor issues) till the last 4.4.4 update when I switched to the G3. Pretty much stock android and that's what I'm looking for for the G3. Thanks again.
Jasmine ROM ftw !!!!
Use a different Launcher if you have the stock one. Nova is pretty good. Use something other than the LG keyboard, and enable developer options and set your animation scales at .5x (window animation,transition animation, and animation duration).
If you have any intention of ever using custom ROM's, then I think it best to stay far, far away from, OTA "updates". They just update the degree of control placed over the use of the phone.
Jasmine is pretty stable and works quite well.
Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Furious right now.
Jesus.
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Could you be a little more vague?
Can't revert to 11B
It's expected. Verizon is the Apple of android now. Locking and blocking so they can find ways to make even more $ from subscribers. Its shameful, but it's business. They have maybe the best service and until people start dropping them they can pretty much do what they want.
Just hang in there and hope that someone finds a way to downgrade so you can get root and twrp back. I believe @autoprime is looking into it in another thread. That's a good thing. :good: Be mad at Verizon still, but be patient too.
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He means v10b and v10c, of course, and many people are reporting the same issue. It may still be possible to revert to v10b from the OTA'd v10c, which would solve our problems with this OTA, but anyone who has not flashed v10c OTA yet should avoid it best as possible until there is better clear information about reverting.
Remember when Google first updated the Chromecast firmware and that patched the only known exploit for it ? It took a while to get around that. I think the Chromcast Devs eventually did, though...I quit following and just stayed stock.
How about instead of being furious with Verizon, you point the blame at yourself. You're the one who was stupid enough to take an OTA, despite common knowledge being that OTAs will patch exploits and have been known to prevent rolling back to older versions.
Not to pile on, but I am really surprised by the number of folks that have eagerly taken the OTA. As with just about any SW update, it's usually best to let someone else be the guinea pig. Not to say I'm not sympathetic. Still, at least your not on a Samsung. I spent the last year on my GS3 stuck in the past usually running TW 4.1.2, but at least I was free!
I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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It looks like you cannot revert to v10b via .tot, either. Still might be a way, but things seem rather bleak about that.
What is bad for us all is that developers, already annoyed at Verizon and LG both, for good reasons, are likely see there very few Verizon LG G3 users that are ever going to be able to benefit from their work left. So, they will give hacking the Verizon G3 up as not worthwhile, maybe, and we will be stuck with a stock-only device. Its a problem to consider.
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GS3 got Knox at 4.4 and couldn't be rolled back as I recall (might even have been when 4.3 released). As bad as that was for the unfortunate folks that took the OTA or had to do a warranty exchange, the worst part was that it fractured the development into two camps, and that seemed to expedite the winding down of dev support for that device. I really hope that isn't what happens to the G3.
FYI- I just saw this post from @autoprime basically suggesting evidence of anti-rollback code in the new BL. Not a shocker, as VZW has been employing that for a while now - at least on Moto and Samsung devices. Sigh...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56437577
Yep... First they locked down the S4...and a short time later the S3 got the Knox bootloader essentially locking everyone who updated into using TW. Safestrap helped many but AOSP was no longer an option for them. It really sucked for development on my S4 as you need to know if a room was for mdk or for Safestrap.
I'd hate to see that happen here to the G3...BUT i will not give up a custom recovery just to get the latest update.... Even if the development community never is able to get a working updated rom.
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patience is a virtue
Isn't this a fix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/lg-g3-update-incoming-t2923354/page20
Someone on that thread found a way to get root and twrp back after the OTA. :good:
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I had an issue, took the ota, and couldnt fix through TWRP. Flashed back to 10B stock, then took the ota, and now Stump wont work. I would imagine that if you used to .tot, and LG fladh tool, and go back to 10B, that all will be right with the world again.... At least, thats how Samsungs are, now that Stump wont work with 11C. I took it simply for the improvements, already had a camera shortcut on the lock screen
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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You cannot go revert back with a Samsung anymore. With release of knox on the S4 the first update after the MDK bootloader locked anyone out of reverting back. I'm fairly sure every Samsung bootloader after that on other devices worked the same way.
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Reverted back to 10B, ran Stump, setup SU to Survival Mode and took OTA. I just did it and I still have root and 11C.
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as im writing this, im readying my ultrabook to do the same. Sorry, my Samsung knowledge refers to my Fascinate/Nexus days, when the world made sense lol
I was pretty tempted to take the update. But coming from experience with Motorola, I knew better. I checked the forums first before taking it.
Not to lecture, but any time you root it's best to use the free app Uninstall Expert and freeze any potential updates. It saves a lot of heartache.
Surely this will get patched it's just going to take some time...
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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jfriend33 said:
I hope this doesn't sound evil but I am kinda hoping this root debacle increases the value of my g3. I've been wanting to sell it but am waiting for root confirmation on the Droid turbo...
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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I was pretty pumped about the droid Turbo too, but the initial feedback in the forums is that it has some issues. No simultaneous voice and data either. Just makes me feel that much better about the G3!
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So far I love my G3...but the nexus 6 is looking sexy....
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I'm using a droid turbo right now because I broke my g3 screen. Can't stand this p.o.s. Excited for my g3 replacement device. I'll have it 2m and I'll be back to normal.
BTW, screen and digitizer are one in the same on the g3. Crack your screen and touchscreen no longer works. Just FYI
Verizon Moto Droid Turbo... No simultaneous voice and data? What year is it again?
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
Agreed.
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28cliff said:
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
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If you have grandfathered unlimited, I wouldn't dump that for a virgin carrier.
I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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Well, since you asked:
The updates to the G3 (including to v5.0) are underwhelming.
As a software developer for over 40 years, I'd like to see more testing before release, not less. Or would we like to be in the shoes of Apple users, who can't boot after an update?
Yes, I look forward to updates, but mostly out of curiosity.
Updates almost never include what I'd like to see added (or removed).
I don't worship my computing devices. I'm interested in what they can do, not the latest UI look (not that it's what you are looking for, but many are).
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I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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i also have verizon unlimited, I have been on skydragon 5.0/4.2 kernel for a while now. The wifi has been fixed, I love the phone, the camera is not an iphone camera (sadly, I think they win hands down on the camera), but it is still a great camera. I would recommend you install the hotspot mod from xdabbeb and look into the xcam lg 6.24 app (camera app, for stock roms though, personally, I like it over stock on the lg). I've never used cm, I sort of like stock roms (was on jasmine a long time before skydragon), but I think that you'll like the phone, I also have xposed installed. I haven't had ram issues at all, but I am not a gamer so not sure what your needs are. The 24b modem has been great for me once it was updated. On updates, yes, it has been slow coming from verizon (or lg), but mostly that is a stagefright type fix, and since lgg4 has launched, I just don't think that we are high priority on getting out those updates. I have hear "rumors" that our next update will not be until marsmallow, but they are just that...rumors. Hope you like the g3, personally, I love it.
Thanks, tmord1, that's very helpful information.
All I really want is a nice platform with minimal bloat, high performance and reliability, and the ability to wireless tether on LTE. I am an infrastructure systems and network administrator, so my concerns are along those lines: what makes a device fast, robust and capable, and if possible bypassing the cages that the vendors mandate.
I get my device delivered tomorrow, so I will look into the methods for root and TWRP install. I have unlocked and rooted many devices, going back to the Galaxy Nexus 1 and original Galaxy Tab. So, Odin and ADB don't' bother me.
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If the camera is important to you, updating / patching to CM 12.1 will affect the camera. Apparently, LG camera driver is proprietary (for the laser focus, etc) and not available on ASOP roms.
I loved CM 12.1 on the G3, but I was unhappy with third party camera apps. I had to go back to stock for the camera.
It's a good phone, though.
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The latest update 35b and especially the roms based on it like Jasmine 9.1 really improved the phone. I don't feel any need to upgrade devices and feel like the software is much improved even over the kitkat stock rom that I thought was a great start. Lollipop before 5.1.1 was problematic itself and you can blame Google for that.
Agreed 100% the 35 b update made a world of difference as far as speed. The phone is much faster than its ever been on any ROM imho. Btw, has any other carrier updated to 5.1.1?
I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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If you haven't tried JasmineROM 9.1 or SkyDragon 6.x, you might want to give them a try. Both based on the new 5.1.1 stock and it runs really well!
Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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We are talking the LG G3, not nexus phones and google fi, at least I am.
LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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i believe you are a bit incorrect with your efuse analogy, its actually a Qfuse (on the 6p anyways).
post 1 and 2 here, should clear things up a bit for you.
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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just a heads up, google fi has nothing to do with nexus phones or updates, other than the fi carrier service can only be used on a nexus at this time, and possibly will never be expanded to non google devices.
I think software updates are a problem for any carrier android devices. Most have to wait a month to a couple for a update that an international device gets. This is so annoying. But something that's even more annoying is how most carrier devices come with bootloaders that cannot be unlocked or so locked up it takes month to find a way to bypass them. I had Galax s4 and I bought it once I knew TWRP could be installed. Then when the g3 was released I wanted it but waited until developers got TWRP working then bought my g3. I'm probably gonna keep my G3 until Cyanogenmod stops supporting it or it dies. What ever comes 1st.
**NOTE** There is no reason to take this OTA any more. There are two custom-stock ROMs based on 35B. See "Edit III" below for links!
Well, it is confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt that this build can't be rooted. The currently known root method for 5.1.1 LG devices, along with every prior root method all fail. **Note attempting root will take your Software Status to "Modified", even though the actual root fails. We do not know whether this will prevent taking future OTAs at this juncture.
More importantly, this build cannot be downgraded using the KDZ method. You can, in fact, downgrade using the TOT method. See EDIT II at the bottom of this post.
It's interesting to note that the Verizon G3 update page has this to say about 35B:
Upgrade to Android™ Lollipop v5.1.1, which features a new interface and tighter security features
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That could be innocuous, or it could be precisely why we can't root or downgrade any more. I'm guessing the latter.
So please, consider yourself warned, for now if you upgrade to build 35B (which is the LG/Verizon official 5.1.1 Lollipop update), there is no going back and there is no root. I'll certainly update the OP with any developments that come along.
If anybody hears about a new root method for LG phones, please don't hesitate to post here and we'll be happy to investigate it. Would that I were smart enough to figure out how to root phones myself, but that's beyond my abilities. Godspeed everyone already on 35B.
Big thanks to:
@roirraW "edor" ehT for coming along with me and being a fellow guinea pig, helping test and verify all of these problems.
@Unjustified Dev for attempting to help try and get this thing rooted.
Trying to look at the bright side, if you see my comments about performance and battery life, this build is actually quite good, especially for stock LG/VZW, so good on them for actually putting out usable, well-written software (unlike their 5.0.2 build).
EDIT - The KDZ file is now available for build 35B. Get it on AFH Here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347834649 or straight from LG here: http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW5EEB7232L2ATO02223HOO/VS98535B_00_ARB00.kdz
Remember, you cannot root this build right now. You've been warned. This is posted essentially for people that are already on 35B and experimenting with rooting. Now we can get back to 'official' status if we want.
EDIT II - We can now downgrade! Thanks to @agh1701 for figuring that out. You need to download a DLL file (see post #84) and use the TOT method (instructions here).
EDIT III - Stock-based ROM builds using 35B as the base:
SkyDragon 6.0.1 (comes complete with a custom kernel!) by @HolyAngel
Jasmine 9.0 by @hsbadr
Thanks for the very good information. I did not know that they prevented downgrade. Hopefully we can at least get a 35B KDZ file soon.
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@hokiealumnus Man...that kind of sucks. Hopefully someone will be able to figure it out soon. No more Candy for you ...and Halloween is right around the corner too
Thanks for having the courage to try the new build & providing feedback. I'm sure your info saved, and will save, a bunch of people from taking the update and losing root. A thousand thanks to you my friend :good:
I'm crossing my fingers for you to get root back ASAP :fingers-crossed:
I don't know if this is true or not and do not mean to perpetuate rumors, but I saw this posted as a comment in the droid life article announcing the update:
"........ JoeInMO • a day ago
If you're rooted and use Wi-Fi tether hotspot (unlimited data users) you're out of luck with this update. Also the new modem seems to automatically throttle data speeds and limits. If you're stock it may be OK, but if you're rooted DO NOT install this update (and you won't keep root). The FASTEST modem for the LG G3 is the 12B modem. The 23A and 23B are slower (I've checked in many places in the USA). It seems they're trying to limit the use of unpaid wi-fi Hotspot usage via the modem. There is NOTHING beneficial to a rooted user and make sure and BLOCK this update. If you're stock then go for it. Just another LG screw up." http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/06/verizons-lg-g3-gets-update-to-android-5-1-1-vs98535b/
But, in the spirit of trying to prevent people from losing wifi tethering on unlimited, here it is, take it with a gos...
so confirmed can't downgrade? tot method I would think would work... altho technically kdz should too.. If we can't even get root on this or downgrade there isn't gonna be any roms based on it... and even less chance of getting stock M on our phones with root. Super sucks having a locked bootloader :crying:
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so confirmed can't downgrade? tot method I would think would work... altho technically kdz should too.. If we can't even get root on this or downgrade there isn't gonna be any roms based on it... and even less chance of getting stock M on our phones with root. Super sucks having a locked bootloader :crying:
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Well, roirraW "edor" ehT is hopeful that they will release a KDZ that can be extracted to build stock-based ROMs off of. However, those of us that upgraded hoping to get images quickly are stuck for now.
I've never tried TOT, so I'll have to research that some more, but I'm scared to do it, because what if (rather than blinking a couple times and doing nothing), it works but triggers a counter that hard bricks the phone? That's, regrettably, not something I can chance, because this is the only phone I've got with no budget for a new one.
Before this week, I'd have said you were crazy if you said I wouldn't be able to downgrade, because that's how it's been through four different builds now. At this point, they've scared the initiative right out of me.
What I'm truly hoping for is root, with the ability to install TWRP and get this mess resolved that way. There seem to be smart people willing to work on it.
This doesn't surprise me given how Verizon treats the rooting community as a whole. Heck they were pretty reluctant to even carry any Nexus devices at all and even then it's like pulling teeth to get them to sell them at all.
Right right... I can try myself but if it ends up being zero chance of downgrading then no more development on this device from me unless we eventually get root or unlocked bootloaders.. I don't have an issue risking it since I don't need my g3, but just a heads up.. I might try it tonight since I have the tot files to restore back if its possible.
An extracted system and boot would be all we need for a rom to be a made tho..
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HolyAngel said:
Right right... I can try myself but if it ends up being zero chance of downgrading then no more development on this device from me unless we eventually get root or unlocked bootloaders.. I don't have an issue risking it since I don't need my g3, but just a heads up.. I might try it tonight since I have the tot files to restore back if its possible.
An extracted system and boot would be all we need for a rom to be a made tho..
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Hmm...perhaps you should hold off, since you're the only stock-rom-dev-with-the-device we have. If you get your device locked to 35B you'll doom SkyDragon followers! If you keep your device away from 35B, you can still make a SD build from the extracted KDZ, assuming they do release one, which I presume they will eventually.
@roirraW "edor" ehT , do you plan on attempting TOT? If you do it, maybe that will act as proof-of-concept & keep @HolyAngel 's from being potentially locked. Totally understand if you don't want to do that too...can't expect others to take the risk when I'm not willing!
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Hmm...perhaps you should hold off, since you're the only stock-rom-dev-with-the-device we have. If you get your device locked to 35B you'll doom SkyDragon followers! If you keep your device away from 35B, you can still make a SD build from the extracted KDZ, assuming they do release one, which I presume they will eventually.
@roirraW "edor" ehT , do you plan on attempting TOT? If you do it, maybe that will act as proof-of-concept & keep @HolyAngel 's from being potentially locked. Totally understand if you don't want to do that too...can't expect others to take the risk when I'm not willing!
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Hmm yeah, guess I'll wait then and see. Hopefully someone figures it out ^^
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hokiealumnus said:
Hmm...perhaps you should hold off, since you're the only stock-rom-dev-with-the-device we have. If you get your device locked to 35B you'll doom SkyDragon followers! If you keep your device away from 35B, you can still make a SD build from the extracted KDZ, assuming they do release one, which I presume they will eventually.
@roirraW "edor" ehT , do you plan on attempting TOT? If you do it, maybe that will act as proof-of-concept & keep @HolyAngel 's from being potentially locked. Totally understand if you don't want to do that too...can't expect others to take the risk when I'm not willing!
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I plan on it, but since I never had any success using the TOT method, and one of the things I was going to try to get it working for me is do it from another PC. I need to set one of my spare junk PCs up to do it, just don't know how soon I'll get around to it, real life, you know.
I might try it again on the PC I tried it on several times before, that'll be less effort. Windows has been reinstalled many many times since I last tried.
[VK810.4G] [altev] [ViKtory810ROM] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2
[VK810.4G] [altev] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2 DEBLOAT SCRIPTS and copies of all the files they remove
[VK810.4G] [altev] OTAs, .IMGs and KDZs, oh my
Tot does NOT work either. The update also removes the ability for wireless charging the device.
Edit: Turns out my wife and I both had a bad update. I used repair assistant and wireless charging is working again.
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Tot does NOT work either. The update also removes the ability to wireless charge the device.
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Wow. Has any other G3 gotten this 5.1.1 update?
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timboger said:
The update also removes the ability for wireless charging the device.
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Why would they do this?? It feels like this build is built on spite!
Not that I use wireless charging since I like the cable better but this is just to pretty much say "we don't care for users and they can only do what we tell them". I'm so glad to be going to the Nexus 6P when it arrives.
RHChan84 said:
Not that I use wireless charging since I like the cable better but this is just to pretty much say "we don't care for users and they can only do what we tell them". I'm so glad to be going to the Nexus 6P when it arrives.
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I'm so done with Verizon on every level.
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NBreunig3 said:
I'm so done with Verizon on every level.
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Im happy with their cell service but everything else is "eh". My bill is pretty cheap. 40GB unlimited everything else with 3 smart phones and one dumb phone for $280/month. I travel a lot and VZW could not be matched by ATT nor Sprint since I was always the person with service meanwhile others did not.
I hate how they lock things down. This is where apple shines because they say "we sell phones and people want our phones, you will listen to us because a lot of people want iphones and its a big chunk of your users".
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Im happy with their cell service but everything else is "eh". My bill is pretty cheap. 40GB unlimited everything else with 3 smart phones and one dumb phone for $280/month. I travel a lot and VZW could not be matched by ATT nor Sprint since I was always the person with service meanwhile others did not.
I hate how they lock things down. This is where apple shines because they say "we sell phones and people want our phones, you will listen to us because a lot of people want iphones and its a big chunk of your users".
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That's what bothers me too. Verizon makes everything lockdown. They are a dictator.
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NBreunig3 said:
That's what bothers me too. Verizon makes everything lockdown. They are a dictator.
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Exactly. For a while they wanted everyone to use that payment thing they had but after a little while, Google wallet was allowed but this was probably months ago. I'm just glad I'm going towards the Nexus so no more of that crap. Them going to full price phones sucks but T-Mobile did it and probably ATT isnt not far behind and sprint.
Anyone else's battery life worse on this update?
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