The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
Agreed.
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28cliff said:
The LG G3 is a wonderful phone but when it comes to updates I give it a grade of D-. It took months for the sync problem with WiFi to be fixed. Updates to 5 is behind schedule. Verizon blames LG for the problem.
As a consumer, I do not care who is to blame, I need a solution!
My next phone will be a Nexus phone. If Verizon cannot get me a clean version of the Nexus I dump Verizon and try Google Fi.
What's your feeling on the subject?
CliffordS
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If you have grandfathered unlimited, I wouldn't dump that for a virgin carrier.
I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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Well, since you asked:
The updates to the G3 (including to v5.0) are underwhelming.
As a software developer for over 40 years, I'd like to see more testing before release, not less. Or would we like to be in the shoes of Apple users, who can't boot after an update?
Yes, I look forward to updates, but mostly out of curiosity.
Updates almost never include what I'd like to see added (or removed).
I don't worship my computing devices. I'm interested in what they can do, not the latest UI look (not that it's what you are looking for, but many are).
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I have VZW unlimited, and just bought a G3 to replace my shattered Galaxy S4.
Was this a mistake to jump into the G3? I had root, open, generic wifi tether, and a pretty good overall situation with the SGS4, but wanted slightly more modern HW, better resolution and 3GB RAM.
If I go to CM 12.1, will that resolve some of OPs complaints?
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i also have verizon unlimited, I have been on skydragon 5.0/4.2 kernel for a while now. The wifi has been fixed, I love the phone, the camera is not an iphone camera (sadly, I think they win hands down on the camera), but it is still a great camera. I would recommend you install the hotspot mod from xdabbeb and look into the xcam lg 6.24 app (camera app, for stock roms though, personally, I like it over stock on the lg). I've never used cm, I sort of like stock roms (was on jasmine a long time before skydragon), but I think that you'll like the phone, I also have xposed installed. I haven't had ram issues at all, but I am not a gamer so not sure what your needs are. The 24b modem has been great for me once it was updated. On updates, yes, it has been slow coming from verizon (or lg), but mostly that is a stagefright type fix, and since lgg4 has launched, I just don't think that we are high priority on getting out those updates. I have hear "rumors" that our next update will not be until marsmallow, but they are just that...rumors. Hope you like the g3, personally, I love it.
Thanks, tmord1, that's very helpful information.
All I really want is a nice platform with minimal bloat, high performance and reliability, and the ability to wireless tether on LTE. I am an infrastructure systems and network administrator, so my concerns are along those lines: what makes a device fast, robust and capable, and if possible bypassing the cages that the vendors mandate.
I get my device delivered tomorrow, so I will look into the methods for root and TWRP install. I have unlocked and rooted many devices, going back to the Galaxy Nexus 1 and original Galaxy Tab. So, Odin and ADB don't' bother me.
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If the camera is important to you, updating / patching to CM 12.1 will affect the camera. Apparently, LG camera driver is proprietary (for the laser focus, etc) and not available on ASOP roms.
I loved CM 12.1 on the G3, but I was unhappy with third party camera apps. I had to go back to stock for the camera.
It's a good phone, though.
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The latest update 35b and especially the roms based on it like Jasmine 9.1 really improved the phone. I don't feel any need to upgrade devices and feel like the software is much improved even over the kitkat stock rom that I thought was a great start. Lollipop before 5.1.1 was problematic itself and you can blame Google for that.
Agreed 100% the 35 b update made a world of difference as far as speed. The phone is much faster than its ever been on any ROM imho. Btw, has any other carrier updated to 5.1.1?
I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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I switched to liquidsmooth for a more up to date system.
Didn't know that about the camera, that explains why it's taking longer to focus now than when I was on JasmineRom.
Still a great phone.
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If you haven't tried JasmineROM 9.1 or SkyDragon 6.x, you might want to give them a try. Both based on the new 5.1.1 stock and it runs really well!
Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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Oh yeah, the 35b update made this feel like a different phone. Plus I don't see any other carrier updating the phone
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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There's Google Nexus phones. There's Google Fi
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We are talking the LG G3, not nexus phones and google fi, at least I am.
LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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LG is still ahead of Motorola and HTC and only slightly below Samsung who is the fastest updating carrier after the nexus devices for having timely updates. I'm grateful I bought this phone after having the S3, as Samsung isn't messing around with allowing any more unlocked devices. Even the new nexus devices have efuses to check for phone modification to affect warranty and pay apps that are not reversible. Also you won't be getting a removable battery and sd card with another manufacturer on a new phone. The LG G3 is a pretty darn good device still to own in my book.
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i believe you are a bit incorrect with your efuse analogy, its actually a Qfuse (on the 6p anyways).
post 1 and 2 here, should clear things up a bit for you.
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just a heads up, google fi has nothing to do with nexus phones or updates, other than the fi carrier service can only be used on a nexus at this time, and possibly will never be expanded to non google devices.
I think software updates are a problem for any carrier android devices. Most have to wait a month to a couple for a update that an international device gets. This is so annoying. But something that's even more annoying is how most carrier devices come with bootloaders that cannot be unlocked or so locked up it takes month to find a way to bypass them. I had Galax s4 and I bought it once I knew TWRP could be installed. Then when the g3 was released I wanted it but waited until developers got TWRP working then bought my g3. I'm probably gonna keep my G3 until Cyanogenmod stops supporting it or it dies. What ever comes 1st.
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So coming from the Verizon gnex I miss the openness of doing whatever I wanted with the phone. And while I do love this phone, I'm contemplating returning it at the end of my 14 days in order to wait and see what the next Nexus is like. I know people are doubting it's coming to Verizon, but I would rather have that option open to me if it does come to big red. Anyone else is this same boat?
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Are you talking about the fact that the bootloader is still locked?
It hasn't even been a week yet, and the phone isn't even out on all carriers.
I have faith that the device will be modded soon. Just hang in there.
(Also, if the FCC documents prove accurate, Verizon is not going to carry the next Nexus.)
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So coming from the Verizon gnex I miss the openness of doing whatever I wanted with the phone. And while I do love this phone, I'm contemplating returning it at the end of my 14 days in order to wait and see what the next Nexus is like. I know people are doubting it's coming to Verizon, but I would rather have that option open to me if it does come to big red. Anyone else is this same boat?
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I also came from the Galaxy Nexus and miss the open architecture of the G2... but after rooting it and making a few minor changes I'm liking the G2 more and more.
I suspect the bootloader issue will be resolved soon and then we'll be able to load Cyanogenmod or other ROM's on the G2. Then we'll have the fastest phone with the best screen on the market.
I'd suggest you root now and load a root keeper to block any potential OTA that will further complicate the bootloader issue.
unless android 4.4 is set up to completely change battery life and how the phones will work with battery... I do not think the 2300 mah battery will compare to the 3000. So to me G2 will be a better bet, I guess that depends on the person
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unless android 4.4 is set up to completely change battery life and how the phones will work with battery... I do not think the 2300 mah battery will compare to the 3000. So to me G2 will be a better bet, I guess that depends on the person
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Actually Ive read of and experienced better battery life on 4.3 (on my Gnex), so its possible 4.4 might be better still.
If the bootloader gets unlocked on the G2, I can only imagine how fast the phone will run with something like Vanir or Commotio.
And I dont think VZW will ever get another "pure Google" phone, especially if the lockdown they did on the S4 is any indication.
I would never buy a nexus from verizon or at&t, or any big carrier lol.
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I would never buy a nexus from verizon or at&t, or any big carrier lol.
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Its rumored to be sold on the play store, like the gnex and the nexus 4
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Its rumored to be sold on the play store, like the gnex and the nexus 4
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I would hope this not be a rumor and just a fact. The playstore should be the first to sell the next nexus before any carrier. Thats where I purchased my previous ones.
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I also came from the Galaxy Nexus and miss the open architecture of the G2... but after rooting it and making a few minor changes I'm liking the G2 more and more.
I suspect the bootloader issue will be resolved soon and then we'll be able to load Cyanogenmod or other ROM's on the G2. Then we'll have the fastest phone with the best screen on the market.
I'd suggest you root now and load a root keeper to block any potential OTA that will further complicate the bootloader issue.
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If i were to purchase this device (very close to deciding this way), how do i do a "root keeper"? I saw on here how to root the device but never heard of this "root keeper" thing? Sorry still new to this whole android scene coming from iphone 4 and now running HTC One X+, my first ever android device and loving it! Just don't see how other companies can top this device any time soon and not at all impressed nor need this new HTC Blink Feed crap that they will push on all new/upcoming HTC devices that probably still won't be as amazing as this device in the next 6 months. Thanks!
The new Nexus, when it passed through the FCC, didn't carry the bands necessary to operate on Verizon's network. That is to say, Verizon won't have it.
I'm sure the next Nexus will be great, and I considered holding off on a purchase until it launched. However, in the end, I opted for hardware once again over software, and the G2 has all the bells and whistles in the hardware department. The Nexus is a fantastic option though if you favor software and being completely free to customize your experience.
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If i were to purchase this device (very close to deciding this way), how do i do a "root keeper"? I saw on here how to root the device but never heard of this "root keeper" thing? Sorry still new to this whole android scene coming from iphone 4 and now running HTC One X+, my first ever android device and loving it! Just don't see how other companies can top this device any time soon and not at all impressed nor need this new HTC Blink Feed crap that they will push on all new/upcoming HTC devices that probably still won't be as amazing as this device in the next 6 months. Thanks!
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There's an app call "OTA root keeper" and works quite well in keeping root after an OTA. Worked on my Asus tablet and my samsung note 2. Have not tried it on my samsung s4 though as I haven't gotten any OTA yet.
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There's an app call "OTA root keeper" and works quite well in keeping root after an OTA. Worked on my Asus tablet and my samsung note 2. Have not tried it on my samsung s4 though as I haven't gotten any OTA yet.
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Oh ok, that's awesome! So after i root, i download and install this app, and IF there is an OTA update for this device i am still able to access and download/install it and this app will make sure my device stays rooted?
If worse comes to worse and after doing the above the app doesn't work, can i just still do the same root procedure after the OTA? Thanks!
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Oh ok, that's awesome! So after i root, i download and install this app, and IF there is an OTA update for this device i am still able to access and download/install it and this app will make sure my device stays rooted?
If worse comes to worse and after doing the above the app doesn't work, can i just still do the same root procedure after the OTA? Thanks!
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Ya but make sure when you open the app you do a "protect root" first before doing the OTA. After OTA open the app again and do a "restore root". Thats it. In some cases you may need to reboot again after restore root.
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Ya but make sure when you open the app you do a "protect root" first before doing the OTA. After OTA open the app again and do a "restore root". Thats it. In some cases you may need to reboot again after restore root.
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Ok, thank you for explaining. Will keep this in mind if i get this device but will be a month or two. Hopefully by then this device will be bootloader unlocked and won't need all the fixins.
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And I dont think VZW will ever get another "pure Google" phone, especially if the lockdown they did on the S4 is any indication.
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Not this year but next Fall is a real possibility when Verizon is planning on introducing 4g-only phones late next year. Once VoLTE turns on and CDMA exits the scene, all you need is band 4 and 13 compatibility in the next LTE/GSM Nexus.
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I'm sure the next Nexus will be great, and I considered holding off on a purchase until it launched. However, in the end, I opted for hardware once again over software, and the G2 has all the bells and whistles in the hardware department. The Nexus is a fantastic option though if you favor software and being completely free to customize your experience.
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Thats a good point, software can only take you so far in the long run anyways.
I am still stuck in this conundrum, keep the G2 with the real possibility that it may never get AOSP but stay on unlimited on Verizon's network, or return it and wait for the Nexus 5 and switch to T-Mobile unlimited with worse coverage, or Aio with better coverage but 8mbps speed limit and 7GB/month data limit. Decisions, decisions.
EDIT: Well, I just talked to a guy at work who said T-Mobile's network around here sucks so that's out. Now it's stay on VZW with G2, stay on VZW with GS4 Developers Edition for my flashing addiction and AOSP or go to AT&T or one of the many MVNOs who use their network and get the Nexus 5, not an easy choice.
Id definitely keep this. The Nexus 5 wont be coming to VZW, but it seems like it'll be the same hardware as the G2. So yeah stick with us. I as well am completely expecting a BL unlock soon.
Getting Real sick & tired of the Optimus G, thinking seriously about selling it & getting an LG G3 or an HTC ONE M8, ever since KK ROMS came to the picture, kernel development & ROM development have been slow, now i'm facing issues with screen, when swiping in the drawer it freezes on every single swipe i make, no mods no additional kernels the lag & battery drainage it's just.... terrible, used of recommended GAPPS, LG is so stubborn not releasing the stock e970 ROM, by the time we get the update, Nexus or other devices would have something even greater than "android L" like always devices get left behind, don't know why google said no device will ever get left behind ever again... oh yeah sure!! say that to the mayor stubborn carriers that take so long to push the OTA'S like always AT&T -.-
Yeah, well... just expresing how i feel about the device now lol sick of the 4.4.4 ROMS JB was the best that work on my device & had stellar performance & battery. now it's just crap. Switching to 4.4.2 stock port. only good KK ROM for the E970.
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Getting Real sick & tired of the Optimus G, thinking seriously about selling it & getting an LG G3 or an HTC ONE M8...
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Yeah, well... just expresing how i feel about the device now lol sick of the 4.4.4 ROMS JB was the best that work on my device & had stellar performance & battery. now it's just crap. Switching to 4.4.2 stock port. only good KK ROM for the E970.
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Sounds like you might have a lemon/broken phone. If you hate it, yes, ditch it. But many people (me included) are quite happy with the OG. I've tried a bunch of ROMs, and most were mostly okay, but I've been running CM milestones and nightlies for several months now with little trouble. In fact, performance has been good, by my standards, and the battery still lasts all day with moderate use. I've only had the thing for about 9 months but I'm usually at least thinking about upgrading or what to get next by this point - not so with the OG.
I'll probably start looking at other phones when I get super bored some day next winter, maybe a used G3 or some HTC, who knows. As for the development, I haven't been reading much here lately because I haven't had problems or time and energy to tinker. But I've been very happy with the help here and have found the OG devs to be eminently qualified. (I have never posted here much but I've been reading the site for years, through about 6 different devices. All my questions had usually already been answered before I could ask them, and I am not a developer.)
Sorry the E970 hasn't worked out as well for you as for some. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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Sounds like you might have a lemon/broken phone. If you hate it, yes, ditch it. But many people (me included) are quite happy with the OG. I've tried a bunch of ROMs, and most were mostly okay, but I've been running CM milestones and nightlies for several months now with little trouble. In fact, performance has been good, by my standards, and the battery still lasts all day with moderate use. I've only had the thing for about 9 months but I'm usually at least thinking about upgrading or what to get next by this point - not so with the OG.
I'll probably start looking at other phones when I get super bored some day next winter, maybe a used G3 or some HTC, who knows. As for the development, I haven't been reading much here lately because I haven't had problems or time and energy to tinker. But I've been very happy with the help here and have found the OG devs to be eminently qualified. (I have never posted here much but I've been reading the site for years, through about 6 different devices. All my questions had usually already been answered before I could ask them, and I am not a developer.)
Sorry the E970 hasn't worked out as well for you as for some. Good luck with whatever you decide on.
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went to 4.3 the issue for me is KK they don't work for me, only KK ROM that work is gorabus excellent dev one thing i forgot to mention, it's not that i'm hating on the development on this thred it's just that i feel limited & hate limitations, have you've seen the Nexus community? most of the known devs that were making ROMS for this device jumped out. i just miss the good old days :/ might keep the phone for an emergency phone or something phone works it's just KK issue, ever since [4.4.2-4.4.4]. but i'm definitely getting a newer device.
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went to 4.3 the issue for me is KK they don't work for me, only KK ROM that work is gorabus excellent dev one thing i forgot to mention, it's not that i'm hating on the development on this thred it's just that i feel limited & hate limitations, have you've seen the Nexus community? most of the known devs that were making ROMS for this device jumped out. i just miss the good old days :/ might keep the phone for an emergency phone or something phone works it's just KK issue, ever since [4.4.2-4.4.4]. but i'm definitely getting a newer device.
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I feel the same. I had Nexus 4 but sold it to buy a Nexus 5, dropped the Nexus 5 on my motorcycle... switch back to the Optimus G after replacing the screen twice (both times my fault). But my OptimusG keeps kicking. The CM11 20140802 build has been good to me, everything from M6 - to a recent nightly on CM11 was flaky for me (UI issues). Thanks to the folks @ CM this includes the fixed encryption fstab so I can feel secure again without having to hack up a ROM manually.
You can't really expect LG to update a 2 year-old phone. There is almost no incentive for them to do so when most people don't care. I'm waiting for the next Google nexus phone. Buying anything other then a Nexus product or something like the Galaxy S5 will put you down the same path again.
The stock KK port is decently usable.. I'm switching to it as well
This has become pretty much a legacy device but still better than most older phones.
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I am using this Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440
[ROM][E970/E971/E973]LG Official Kitkat 4.4.2[stock].
Stock KK for the LG and it has been great. From eco mode to notification light to battery and qslide apps everything works and battery has been pretty well. So yeah CM11 KK or CM Kitkat roms in general for the lg g aren't very stable in my experience and have not really good battery life. But this stock kitkat Rom is much better and really doesn't give me a huge reason to switch to an different phone despite having a OnePlusOne and a Xperia Z2. I would say the LG G still holds up very well against all of them.
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I have to agree. I have also been using the stock kitkat port, this rom here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771440
And it's been fantastic for me overall.
Didn't use many custom roms as it hasn't been a long time since I got this phone.
I rooted it on ics and installed this kitkat rom. Then I tried Slick JB rom but i ended up coming back to this rom again due to the smoothness and stability. Haven't had one crash.
Well yes if this phone did receive an official KitKat update, it would still be a beast. But you can't really blame a device for underperforming based on the ROM development, those are people who volunteered their time to put ROMS on this device especially since the LGOG is almost approaching an age of 2 years.
I've been using CM 11 and it has worked great, vanilla android is the way to go its simple and fast. But I understand that many users (including myself) love the theming aspect of a phone that makes it look like its officially from the brand (ex. TouchWiz or Sense). LG has its unique theme on their successors such as the G2 or G3 and it would great on a KK update to the LGOG.
But its really up to the user on what phone they really want. The LGOG is still fast but if you upgrade now all you'll be really getting is a faster, bigger, and better camera. But still the OG is pretty beast
Yeah I like my LGOG but it's time for me anyways to move on up the ladder. I did my Samsung stint but I like the underdog LG. So I'm getting a G2. Actually got 2 of them I'm repairing. I like the themes CM has to offer but LG's stock interface is really cool. Just my 2 cents.
HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.4.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
stewbuntu said:
HI everyone,
I received a new LG G3 today. It was a great price with all the new phones out and I now have stock QI. SWEET! I'm coming from a VZN note 2 w horrible touchwiz/ some ROMS tried. Ultimately I dont want to flash roms unless LG sucks, I'd prefer to unlock and root to allow for special applications, I'll get to why at the bottom. I'm seeking your opinion and thoughts in regards to:
1.) Should I unlock/root in 4.2.2 prior to the OTA update and stay with 4.2.2? I was not too happy with Kit Kat and it seems that as you get closer to lollipop I had less customization and was annoyed more often with the loss of features within apps and bland styles.; do you agree? I have only seen lollipop from google researching and it looks similar to Kit Kat, just so, so.... Currently in 4.2.2 I can use Google wallet, my chromecast with any movie and music, etc; I don't think I would be gaining any feature except full screen casting, but I have a computer and Chromecast dedicated to my TV. The new notification styles don't impress me either. I had other notification options with CM11 (lock screen/etc) and was not that thrilled with it to upgrade. Normal pictures are fine with me and I'm not trying to win any film contests. No reason to beam stuff, and I like the full month view with digicalendar widget on one home screen (hated google's new calendar views).... Do you regret upgrading? I'm hoping and praying LG has a solid ROM that doesn't drive me crazing crashing with glitches.
lastly any suggestions - Do I need to root now or do anything else to prevent being locked out after the upgrade if I do do it, as is the case of Samsung? I was so glad I locked out OTA updates that screwed a bunch of people out of unlocking their bootloaders for long periods of time.
THANKS FOR YOUR ADVICE AND TIME EVERYONE! I really do appreciate it and I'm excited to start learning about the G3 and having a lot of fun.
My thoughts/background on staying stock w root and unlocked at this point vs Flashing ROMS if you were wondering:
Pardon the poor grammar/ ranting- Basically I need a solid daily driver and after being a little disappointed with CM11 and KitKat in general due to it's bland looks, camera, messaging, etc (e.g. You have to have a face for every contact including yourself to differentiate well between the text messages back and forth, or have handscent with a more "bubble like experience", but is a [email protected] to attach certain things. All in all I tried out gummy rom, CM11 and liquid smooth and was not too thrilled with the glitches or missing stuff that they had for the stable releases I ended up trying for a daily driver. It was fun flashing and testing stuff out though. I switched to a custom ROM mainly bc my note 2 would not allow for easy access to contacts while messaging in landscape (If you typed out a contact's entire name it would only show numbers in the auto select region just above the keyboard and so you would have to scroll down to select a contact in a thin box, this is not okay when your wife is trying to text on your appradio 3 while you are driving. Touch wiz sucked for stability (atleast CM11 never crashed on me!) and touchwiz had so many other glitches and issues that annoyed me; I had to root and add another app just to get a notification bar wifi toggle, WTF! VZN. In ROMS there were mIssing shortcuts in apps to attach things like contacts and do certain daily driver stuff that annoyed me about each ROM, but CM11 was the best for me out of the 4 total I experienced. Custom ROMS did a bad job at working with ARU unchained for my appradio3, but I didn't sped a lot of time on each ROM getting it to work (CM11 was the easiest).
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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First off, I'm assuming when you say 4.2.2, you mean 4.4.2 As far as LG's stock rom, I'd say that as far as OEM's go, LG's on the better end certainly, however that's not to say the stock rom didn't leave bits to be desired, but imho it was a whole heck of a lot better than barfwiz Me personally, I greatly prefer AOSP as opposed to carrier skinned Android, however you do pay a slightly higher premium in a few more glitches/oddities, but you gain a lot of fluidity/speed and a much better looking system imho, but that's personal preference. As far as rooting/upgrading/downgrading, I'm one to always recommend root solely because then YOU can choose when and how to update YOUR device. 10B is currently the only rootable FW, but if you just got it today then you're likely on firmware version 11C or 12B. Both of these can currently be downgraded using the kdz (and possibly tot) methods, as LG and/or VZW haven't yet implemented anything quite as ridiculous as that yet, but I would never put it past VZW to do this at some point. This is all what I personally would recommend doing, and then consider flashing a stock-based rom (such as skydragon or jasmine) Just my 2c
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My bad 4.4.2 and I do see 10B build # KVT49L.VS98510B model # has 10b too
Thanks guys, good info and stuff to research
Colchiro said:
I too came from a Note II and didn't take any OTA's and instead updated with Bean's stock images.
Root your G3 now and update to the latest via: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/reference-stock-img-files-t2966958
If you did take the latest OTA, you can roll back and update to the latest so not too bad being on LG.
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I knew I didn't want Samsung/[email protected] so I spent a while looking at other options and the G3 seemed great with Micro SD and replaceable battery. I can't understand what companies are thinking with no SD slot and not being able to swap batteries when they go bad, or on the fly (although I do 12 hr shifts). Ever since my Motorolla Atrix 3G I have missed glitch free daily drivers My fingers are crossed
So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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So do you guys like Lollipop based ASOPs?
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Locked bootloaders is why I switched to LG. I'm not alone.
I haven't tried any custom roms. I don't like to lose some of the features I like, like knock and stock camera, so haven't messed with custom roms for a couple years. Debloated stock G3 works fine for me....
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I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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I just wanted to find out if everyone is going to do the Lollipop update when it finally does become available for Verizon or not. Or will you just keep what version you have or stay rooted? I have been hearing that the AT&T update does not really improve anything and it does not look much different.
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Nope. I have my phone setup perfectly. I'm on 10B, haven't even updated to 12B/C/D or whatever. I would update to deodexed 12B if there was good enough reason, but I definitely wouldn't jump to lollypop. I won't use lollypop until my next phone (G4 once it gains root).
I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I will once there is a stock based ROM to flash.
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I agree I will once a Dev makes a ROM of it that way we can jump back if we don't like it or there are problems
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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According to Drippler, LG3 users in the US on ATT system are not being able to defer the Lollipop update. If they select no to the update, it updates the phone anyway. Just putting this out FYI and confirmation.
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Shouldn't be a problem if you've frozen or removed the updater like a good boy should ?
Coming from the Moto X 2014, I enjoyed 3 months of Lollipop unrooted. On a Verizon phone at that, go figure. I'm hoping to take 5.0 or whatever version is served up to us asap...
Battery life seems to have taken a bit of a plunge in LP according to this
http://blog.gsmarena.com/benchmarking-android-5-0-lollipop-battery-life-samsung-galaxy-s5-lg-g3/
What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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What is the updater file name? I run a custom Rom but want to make sure it isn't enabled. I searched the system files for anything with OTA in it and didn't see it. But I have had to TOT back to 10B twice since I bumped the phone and don't want to be vulnerable if I should ever have to do it again. Thanks.
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On VZW you should freeze the following, not sure on a custom rom
com.lge.lgfota.permission
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It depends on whether or not LP fixes the audio hiss issue. My phone is my portable mp3 player, and although I love having root, it's gotta be a good phone and good music player first. So frustrating hearing hiss while listening to music... I'd lose root in a heartbeat if they fixed this.
Lollipop is super sweet... Kinda hard not to want it on my g3 after using on my Nexus 7 2013. I mean basically with me running a ROM I have a Nexus 6 with removable battery and expandable memory lol...
I am a little disappointed in Stock lollipop on the other carriers. I do like the new notifications, task mgr, users, etc but I just like the status bar toggles as they are in Stock lollipop...
Luckily xposed is now slowly creeping into lollipop so I'd say in a month life will be sweet!
Although, real talk, if the g4 comes out with 4gbs of ram (yes I know it's not needed but I want it for future proofing) I'd probably sell my g3. But honestly lol I really do love my g3, g watch, etc and am very content hanging on!
some people still use Polaroid instant cameras.
I will update at the first second available.
Depends on if I can keep root across the OTA. I've been able to keep it from 10b to 12b, we'll see what the reports are out there. If I can keep it, and if I can downgrade back to 10b if needs be, then I'll probably try it out.
LP on my Nexus 7 (2012) has been hit or miss. After it's been up and running for awhile, my Nexus 7 will just freeze and I'll have to reboot. I don't have that issue with KK, especially on my G3. The G3 currently runs smooth and I rarely reboot it, ever. And it runs just fine.
So, I'll have to wait and see how things go with LP on this device. As it is, there is a memory leak in the latest version and no word yet from Google on if/when that gets fixed.
i have a zte grand x max+ now but who knows itf it will ever get root, so on this phone how is speaker quality is it loud?and the screen is it bright? and is the phone fluid opening and closing apps etc, after you root it to do some tweaks? thanks
as near as i can tell this would be superior to my Zte Grand x max+, they seem to be same both 720p display, same cpu&gpu, but the things that seem to me off hand would make it better is cpu is 1.2 on my Zte, and 1.6 on this, and this is rootable, but im still looking for opinions from owners of this phone
Phone is amazing. I am rooted with a bunch of xposed modules installed. No issues at all. Fast and smooth operation, and network speeds on MetroPCS are super-fast. I was skeptical about getting this phone, but I am super happy with it. Of course, the battery life is just insane. I don't use the speakerphone much, but when I do, it is plenty loud for me. The screen is beautiful as well. You can always get it from Amazon, they have a great return policy.
I second the suggestion of buying this from Amazon. That's what I did and my 30 day return window is almost up. But I am keeping this phone. I am also rooted and have Nova installed as well. The battery life just blows your mind. I do one long charge on the weekend and that's it. Maybe ten or twenty minutes charges once in a while.
Does it get pretty good cell signal? I'm looking to replace a Galaxy Note 2, which I recently dropped and busted. :crying:
I've been a Samsung user for a few years, but my Note 2 got crappy cell signal compared to the S3 that I replaced (on AT&T, btw, same number and sim card). I was looking at a used Note 4, but don't really feel like dishing out >$500 on a decent used one, and you still can't root the AT&T/Verizon versions, as far as I know. I know you can root the T-Mobile version, but still not too interested in spending the big bucks.
This one's been getting pretty decent reviews for a mid-tier phone, and I'm a fan of big screens (I like to read/watch videos a lot). This one looks like it would fit the bill. I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Does it get pretty good cell signal?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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I think I just read that Huawei is going to release Android L (Lollipop?) some time in the first half of this year, so that's a plus.
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Yes, you read that right. We're just past the first half of the first half of this year, so hopefully we see some more info soon.
ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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I have a Mate2 on T-Mobile and I get 4G LTE pretty much everywhere I go. Although that might be on T-Mobile's part, not the phone.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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ScoobSTi, how do you like the phone?
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Love it! I'm in school full-time and I don't have time to worry about the battery percentage, bringing chargers, finding outlets, etc. I need a phone that does everything I ask of it and lasts long as well. As for the specs, yes they aren't great, but it's still snappy and responsive. Almost on par with my sister's Nexus 5. Occasionally there are dropped frames or app crashes, but that's sadly typical of Android. Sometimes I get a bit annoyed with the size of the phone but that only happens when I wear slim or skinny jeans. No, I'm not worried about bending it!
The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Well, that gives me hope. I'm pretty sure my signal problems at home were phone related. Got decent signal on AT&T with my Galaxy S3 (which I still have), but when I switched to a Note 2, signal went down the toilet. And I would lose signal with regularity in any big box store (Walmart, Target, etc).
Anyway, ordered! I'm hoping some custom roms become available; I'm used to the plethora of choices available for the Samsung phones, hope I can play around with this one a bit.
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We have a dev working on CM11 AND CM12, but he's been busy with work (*cough* Cyanogen) so there hasn't been progress lately. Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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Also, thanks for reminding me about those big stores. I forgot, I DO lose signal in places like BJ's. I always thought it was because of the building itself though.
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It is the building, also - those buildings have a lot of infrastructure between your phone and the cell towers, but some phones have better antennas than others. For example, my wife has an iPhone 5, and she gets a signal in them, while I'm staring at a crossed out circle for my signal indicator. And I don't remember completely losing signal with my S3 as I did with my Note 2, although I would lose a bar or two. I'm back using my S3 right now, since my Note 2 went tits up - I'll check it out next time I'm out and about.
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The only real problem I have is with the software. Like I said, I just need a phone that works, and it does, but EMUI doesn't look nice. I could deal with it but the dreams of getting CM11 or CM12 on this make me a bit impatient.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yeah, the UI is the main thing that had me hesitating. All of the reviews I've read about it list it as a negative - I know I can always install a different launcher, but those sometimes come with their own problems. I think the Android L release is supposed come with the 3.0 version of the UI. I haven't read much about it yet, but I'm hoping it's better than the current version. And, of course, I'll be a happy camper when CM11 or CM12 is released! Not too concerned about it in the interim, though, as I don't tend to get too crazy with the UI customizations.
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Yes, we are supposed to get EMUI 3 as well. You can check it out here. Looks pretty nice, if you ask me.
is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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is this version rootable? http://swappa.com/listing/DRN961/view i was looking in android devolpment i did not see root for the lo3 version thanks
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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Yeah, it's been done. Try the links below - just be sure to make a nandroid backup of your stock rom before making any changes...Android L is supposed be released sometime in the next few months. Pretty sure you'll need the stock rom for OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ascend-mate2/general/progress-rooting-ham2-t2867975
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc.../2014-09-22-teamwin-recovery-project-t2885144
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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thanks, have you got youres yet? if so how do you like it? my zte grand x max+ would be fine if i could root it and freeze the crap i dont want, but alas i didnt know ZTE,S nickname was "FORT KNOX" locking their phones down
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No, just ordered one a couple of days ago from Ebay - should arrive this week sometime. I wanted something with a large screen, but wasn't interested in paying >$500 for a used Galaxy Note 4. The price point on this is great, and has a lot of decent features. I was looking at the OnePlus One, but it doesn't have expandable memory, something that's a must-have for me.
BTW, you'll probably need ADB and Fastboot - check out the link below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
The ascend mate is good in all aspects, the only time service gets choppy is in Walmarts
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
found this on amazon about my question http://www.amazon.com/purchase-cont...m_cd_ql_tlc_al?_encoding=UTF8&asin=B00JPIAGW0 no idea how accurate it is
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can the lo3 version do at&t LTE?
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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yes. L03 is the USA version and works great on att and T-Mobile LTE. I have it on Straighttalk using att towers. I get fast strong LTE coverage in my area and its great!
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you like the phone? have you rooted yet?