I'm just wondering if anyone knows what we'd need to do or what would need to be ported to get Internet Calling (SIP) on our phones. While the Gingerbread ROMs should support it, I'm not seeing the required settings menus...
A quick Google search reveals that we may need to port the dialer from AOSP? Just looking for thoughts or confirmation from someone in the know.
One thing I can tell you for sure, CM7 will have it.
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I just want to point out that for AT&T handsets, this will likely never be capable.
Sadly, we lack the ability (UMA) to do this, it's a synchronious provider/handset/hardware/software effort. We lack handset hardware.
T-Mobile, on the other hand, you may have had a chance, with, not 100% anymore. But here is the information on AT&T: HERE
Anyways, with the Atrix it's impossible, sorry.
However, you can still make full use out of Google Voice, this functionality isn't harmed.
SIP is broken (seems like audio routing issue) on the motorola stack, problem affects even custom ROMs based off motorola kernel.
I've tried every single SIP application under the sun, all have audio issues, it looks like the way Motorola routes audio (to speaker or headphones or whatever) is a bit non-standard as they all exhibit different kinds of audio bugs (as opposed to SIP protocol connectivity issues).
Wait for CM7 or an AOSP based ROM i think.
Skype does work fine for me thou.
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I have been trying for quite some time to get the pesky little 'Internet Calling' option to show up on my Touch Pro. I've tried all sorts of little utilities on various different ROMs and I've yet to see my VOIP provider show up as an option to dial out on, or even any change when 'Internet Calling' is configured and enabled on the Home screen.
There seems to be lots of (possibly outdated?) info out there and there is no shortage of utilities that are supposed to enable the feature, but as far as I can tell none of them seem to work on this particular phone.
I would like to have SIP enabled on my phone, and I would like it to use the same dialing pad, contact database and phone program that the phone on the device uses. I don't want a seperate application, I just want the phone to be able to dial out and recieve calls via VOIP over WIFI, and I want the bluetooth headset to work properly with it and I want clean audio in both directions with a good WiFi connection. Support for multiple SIP accounts would be a huge bonus as well. Is this asking too much or is it just not possible with this device?
I am aware of and do have Fring and Skype both working on the phone, but they do not share the same features as the standard phone application that is native to the device, the biggest issue is that if the phone goes to sleep I don't get calls, even if I'm sitting in my office with a perfectly good wifi connection.
Is there a ROM out there that has VOIP enabled where you can just set up your provider and it works? Has anyone had any success on this phone getting VOIP to work natively? If not a thread that basically says no, it doesn't work might help others that are fighting with this issue.
Thanks in advance.
I had never heard of this as even being possible in WM
Go to registry "Features" under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone,
and add 8 Hex to the value.
Thanks to beefviper on ppcgeeks who figured this out.
Original info here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=749746&postcount=5
If anyone else has more info on CDMA & SIP I'm interested, because it seems like I can't get all pieces working together at once. Either the GPS is broken, or the microphone is muted. Fix one, break the other.
This worked for me!!!!
Just going to reflash and see if I can get it all working without all of teh extra hacking around and will report back.
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Go to registry "Features" under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Phone,
and add 8 Hex to the value.
Thanks to beefviper on ppcgeeks who figured this out.
Original info here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=749746&postcount=5
If anyone else has more info on CDMA & SIP I'm interested, because it seems like I can't get all pieces working together at once. Either the GPS is broken, or the microphone is muted. Fix one, break the other.
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If anyone else has more info on CDMA & SIP I'm interested, because it seems like I can't get all pieces working together at once. Either the GPS is broken, or the microphone is muted. Fix one, break the other.
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Here is what I did after you posted the missing link:
1. Reloaded my phone with the latest NSFAN ROM.
2. Set up the phone to connect to my wireless network. Turned the phone and data connection feature off (my phone is not provisioned)
3. Installed WM6VoIPFull.cab - restarted phone as suggested.
4. Installed Setup_Voip-v0.3.cab
5. Ran Sip Config Tool V2.0.1
6. Ran Sip Dialplan - soft reset as suggested
7. Ran Setup VoIP and set Outgoing calls using VoIP to 'Whenever Available' in the options tab
8. Added 8 to the Hex value at the reg key you noted. Restarted the device.
9. Enabled the Internet Calling on the Settings/Home/Items option
Saw that the VoIP was saying No service. Confirmed connection settings were correct but could not see the phone hitting the PBX at all.
Re-installed WM6VoIPFull.cab, rebooted, re-enabled whenever available... swore some more... Home item says no service. Reconfirmed that the PBX works with settings I'm using with softphone on PC. Made sure I could get to Google Maps on phone. WiFi is working and DNS is resolving, account parameters are all good... still no service. Phone isn't even attempting to log onto PBX.
Whet back to this thread on another site - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1610281
And performed the regedits and added thescripts in post #9 (Cudos to 'El Ha$on')
So I am able to easily turn VoIP on and off....
Try random things to try to get it to magically work again. No Joy. Just for kicks try turning the phone on, and I get a notification that says 'home only' - no clue what that means.
Confirmed that the connection is set to whenever available tried togelling the use over the phones data connection, rebooted. Still 'No Service'
Can't figure out why the phone doesn't want to connect through my wifi, throw phone across room against the wall and go to bed.
- UPDATE -
The above method DOES work, however there is another issue. Microsoft uses a different set of protocols for SIP authentication, so if you are attempting to connect to a PBX that does not support the Authentication that the phone is offering up, you are likely geting 401 errors.
I can connect the phone directly to my trunk lines without any trouble now using the above method.
Installing audioroute routes the audio to the earpiece of the phone and the volume that I am getting is sufficient, allthough not particularly loud.
Happy Voiping
Glad to hear you got everything working. Could you post a link to where you got the voip package you actually used?
Sure thing, I used the files from thread number 8 from here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=1610281
Does your GPS work with all this installed, and have you confirmed that your mic is transmitting your voice? When I was first testing, I didn't even think to check that people could hear me. (Because I was calling one of those automated response places).
Thanks for the link, I think I might take a bit to work up the energy to try yet another combination
Yes GPS is working and VoIP is fully functional. Last piece of teh puzzle is to get the Wifi to remain always on.
(and get it to Authenticate with freeswitch)
Touch Pro CDMA and VOIP
I currently use an HTC Touch Pro to dial out through my WiFi router on a phone that is not active with any cell provider. I am able to do this with an older version of Skype software. When I tried updating to the latest version of Skype software it would not work. I am not able to receive calls on it yet, but I believe I will be able to trick the interface into receiving calls through the Internet the same way my computer does.
Wifi: no stand by / always on
hammtech said:
Last piece of teh puzzle is to get the Wifi to remain always on.
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Fetch WifiNoStandby.cab from forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730303
I have been thinking recently about moving on to a newer Android device for a phone, and converting my Eris into a general purpose, WiFi-only Android device, for things like Media center remote control, Portable MP3 player, etc.
My question, basically, is whether or not its possible to completely disable the cellular radio and any other associated phone/mms/3G/2G drivers and utilities. Stripping out all the miscellaneous apks and apps i dont want is the easy part. Removing drivers, disabling devices, and modifying config files is the part i'm not comfortable with yet. Any tips, pointers or links would be awesome.
Is anybody else interested in having a ROM like this distributed on this forum? I can start posting my progress builds on here if there is interest. Otherwise, if something like this already exists, please let me know!
as far as using it as a wi-fi only device you can simply put the phone into airplane mode and then urn on the wi-fi.
Unwanted programs I have used this program (link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628138
If your phone is rooted you can use the application manager to erase any app you want and hopefully thats good enough for what your looking for. I
It sounds like your looking to do more that I have knowledge in so hopefully this will help till you get the setup your looking for
When you setup your device on first boot after flashing a rom doesn't it have an option for wifi only connection on setup? Granted you may still have to airplane mode afterwards like said above, not really sure but worth a try.... hope this helps.
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I'd be interested, I wouldn't mind letting a youngin use it for mp3 player or something but always worried about an accidental 911 call or something dumb like that
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I think you could take an existing ROM and prune it from them and be happy. Removing drivers or disabling devices ? Not really necessary.... I think if you removed "phone.apk", there'd be no accidental 911 calls made, at least. My first thought was, don't activate it, but you can always make 911 calls as alluded to.
I realize removing the non-used stuff is likely in effort to trim it down to just the necessary stuff, but as I said, it might be overkill.
I've actually been thinking something like this would be awesome for when I retire this thing I say +1
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dragon1018 said:
as far as using it as a wi-fi only device you can simply put the phone into airplane mode and then urn on the wi-fi.
Unwanted programs I have used this program (link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628138
If your phone is rooted you can use the application manager to erase any app you want and hopefully thats good enough for what your looking for. I
It sounds like your looking to do more that I have knowledge in so hopefully this will help till you get the setup your looking for
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Airplane mode turns off the WIFI, too. It turns off any and ALL wireless signals, 2G, 3G, Wifi, any.
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Airplane mode turns off the WIFI, too. It turns off any and ALL wireless signals, 2G, 3G, Wifi, any.
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You can re-enable WiFi after you enable airplane mode.
You could always go into the test call mode or whatever the field programming thing is and disable the radio from there. I forget exactly what the number is to call but it's the one that brings up all the field test tools and stuff...there's an option to completely disable the cellular radio.
Sounds like your basically looking for a honeycomb rom. Pretty sure if we just wait a bit we could possibly see something like that soon. I have faith in our devs.
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I am looking for something like this too. I just bought a bluetooth odb2 adapter so I can use my old eris to monitor my vehicle and do gps and music. I'll probably even make a sweet case for it so basically only the screen shows and it could be installed in the dash. It could sync music whenever I am home in range of wifi. Plus with the new google maps "offline" feature, I could cache frequently used areas.
I think you should go ahead and start something of a tutorial. Just start from a good lean stable 2.2 rom and document what you remove/add etc. and what apps work best for something like that.
If you remove /system/bin/rild, (the "Radio Interface Layer Daemon") there is no longer a possibility of dialing any calls, getting any voice or data service, SMS, MMS et cetera.
This is not the same thing as turning off power to the radio, however. I think you would want to do that for reasons of power conservation alone.
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If you remove /system/bin/rild, (the "Radio Interface Layer Daemon") there is no longer a possibility of dialing any calls, getting any voice or data service, SMS, MMS et cetera.
This is not the same thing as turning off power to the radio, however. I think you would want to do that for reasons of power conservation alone.
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If you do that doesn't it also disable GPS except if wifi is on? I noticed that some still want to use GPS and I know that if you disable network GPS only works through wifi
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This is an great concept for a ROM. I have also been thinking about this, because shortly I will be retiring this little guy. I was going to give it to my wife because she refuses to get a smartphone and has an mp3 player from like 8 years ago that she refuses to upgrade! The Eris keeps my kids busy when we are out also. This way I wouldn't have to worry about my kids (or my wife) doing something stupid!
dpiddy14 said:
This is an great concept for a ROM. I have also been thinking about this, because shortly I will be retiring this little guy. I was going to give it to my wife because she refuses to get a smartphone and has an mp3 player from like 8 years ago that she refuses to upgrade! The Eris keeps my kids busy when we are out also. This way I wouldn't have to worry about my kids (or my wife) doing something stupid!
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True.
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bftb0 said:
If you remove /system/bin/rild, (the "Radio Interface Layer Daemon") there is no longer a possibility of dialing any calls, getting any voice or data service, SMS, MMS et cetera.
This is not the same thing as turning off power to the radio, however. I think you would want to do that for reasons of power conservation alone.
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Does it work better to remove the line from init.d or whatever? Or do errors finding files not matter?
There is a project underway to do this very thing, keep an eye on these forums and they'll be posting it when its ready for the world.
that sounds awesome can't wait to put it on my eris when i get the Thunderbolt!
and my next phone will have mobile hotspot so whenever I am in my car and away from my home wifi, my "carputer" will have internet access for maps. sweet
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There is a project underway to do this very thing, keep an eye on these forums and they'll be posting it when its ready for the world.
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Do you know who is going to post it?
I'm traveling abroad, and have been for the last several months. Before I left the US, I had updated to EB01 Froyo, with a Voodoo kernel, and added a few mods and a custom theme.
Since I've been out of the loop so long, and now that more stable versions of TW Gingerbread, AOSP, and CyanogenMod have been produced, I'd like to bring my device up to date. However, as I'm traveling without a personal computer, my priority is stability, not the "newest" leak or ROM.
I'm also in a unique situation, because, as I am abroad (Southeast Asia), I have suspended my VZW service, and do not need Voice, SMS, MMS, Data/3G (or wifi tethering for that matter). In fact, I want to keep these features disabled as much as possible (except for assisting AGPS if necessary). I just want a fast, stable, (feature-rich), WIFI-only phone (VOIP), with ability to use my apps. [I recognize that using a full-featured VZW ROM and using Airplane Mode and disabling Data accomplishes my need to remain disconnected from towers, so it's not necessary to point that out - I'm just offering this info to clarify my situation]
Essential features: working wifi, quick and accurate GPS (without using towers if possible, to avoid potential data charges, unless this isn't an issue), camera, Adobe Flash (I know this has been available since Froyo leaks), and ability to use VOIP (I'm currently using Skype, and when I can get it working, GrooVe IP). Working bluetooth functionality would also be helpful for VOIP (oddly it's not working on my device as currently set up- it won't even enable). Oh, and I have a secondary battery from the SGS Captivate that I want to continue to be able to use as a backup battery.
I'd like to have the quickest device possible, while still maintaining the more important stability, as I will not be able to update the device but very rarely.
I appreciate any insights and suggestions anyone may be able to offer. I know my situation is quite unique, but I'd imagine I'm not the only one wishing to use this great hardware "off-VZW."
Another complication is that most of the Internet Cafes around here do not allow installing software, such as the Samsung USB drivers, or required SDKs. But hopefully I can find a cafe with computers that do allow this, though that may mean it's more vulnerable. Any thoughts on this is appreciated as well.
Thanks again!
I (luckily) don't have to drive a lot, so it took me a while to notice that this feature was missing.
With the official AT&T OS, the Atrix was able to support SMS over Bluetooth (so the car can read me the texts). However, with CM7 [I'm running the latest 06/03 nightly] this feature no longer works.
Any ideas on why this doesn't work with CM7 and how to get this worked back in?
Since the latest CM7 build still is missing this functionality, figure I'd get this thread back to the top. It's rather annoying that it's missing this (what should be) basic feature.
Hi, posting here to broaden the net a little. I have carbon ROM that i am fairly sure allowed simultaneous voice and data. I.e when making a call on Bluetooth in the car, data for Google maps stayed active. Now that doesn't work but I am sure this worked since the froyo days. I'm trying to pinpoint the cause.
I have sgs2 and tried three different radios with and without ril, nelp3, nelp4, and nels1, but no change to behaviour . But My wife's sgs3 is on vodafone uk and also drops data connection when making phone calls. (Seen by H/3g logo disappearing and being unable to use data when making calls).
We think it's recent but unsure if it's the ROM or something else.
Would appreciate if someone on another rom on a Samsung phone or two can check for me before I restore a backup to check myself.
Also any ideas how to debug?
Thank you
Chris
P.s already tried different and included kernels on both phones.
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Same problem with Carbon 4.3 on LS970
crypticc said:
Hi, posting here to broaden the net a little. I have carbon ROM that i am fairly sure allowed simultaneous voice and data. I.e when making a call on Bluetooth in the car, data for Google maps stayed active. Now that doesn't work but I am sure this worked since the froyo days. I'm trying to pinpoint the cause.
I have sgs2 and tried three different radios with and without ril, nelp3, nelp4, and nels1, but no change to behaviour . But My wife's sgs3 is on vodafone uk and also drops data connection when making phone calls. (Seen by H/3g logo disappearing and being unable to use data when making calls).
We think it's recent but unsure if it's the ROM or something else.
Would appreciate if someone on another rom on a Samsung phone or two can check for me before I restore a backup to check myself.
Also any ideas how to debug?
Thank you
Chris
P.s already tried different and included kernels on both phones.
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I am hoping to find the answer to this is Carbon related (CM10.1 vs 10.2 branches maybe?) and not specific to devices. Could you post this thread on the Dev page for that ROM? That way the Devs for the ROM know about it... and may be able to find the solution. Fingers crossed!