Can more people contact Viber team and push them to fix this "bug"?
When you set Wi-fi sleep policy to "When screen turns off"
Viber actually prevents this setting and keeps Wi-fi on all the time.
I don't like having an app that overrides my system settings and Viber should disable this "feature"
When I uninstall Viber then my Wi-fi sleep policy works the way I set it up.
I have contacted Viber team for some weeks ago but it seems that they don´t care about one single user.
We need to push them, if I want my phone to use 3G/GSM when screen is off it´s my choice, not vibers.
Please support!
Edit: Viber team has responded and is finally fixing this bug!
There probably doing you a favour i get much better battery leaving wifi on and not 3g.
mynamesteve said:
There probably doing you a favour i get much better battery leaving wifi on and not 3g.
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But not all people, SGS2 gets some drain with some routers and my battery last longer on 3G, but i prefer the speeds on my wifi and want to use it when my screen is on.
I have great 3G reception in my area so 3G is best for my battery when idle.
So I don´t need a bloody favor from viber, I want to set up my phone the way I want.
rodak said:
I want to set up my phone the way I want.
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right, in the spirit of android.
HearthC0re said:
right, in the spirit of android.
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Viber is written in the spirit of iOS
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber Development Team.
This is something that has been brought to our attention by many users such as yourself, and it is definitely a priority for future development.
@rodak - Thank you for pushing us a little harder, just don't push us over the edge
Please feel free to let us know your thoughts, questions and comments.
Thanks,
Viber Team
Viber Team said:
Hi,
This is a member of the Viber Development Team.
This is something that has been brought to our attention by many users such as yourself, and it is definitely a priority for future development.
@rodak - Thank you for pushing us a little harder, just don't push us over the edge
Please feel free to let us know your thoughts, questions and comments.
Thanks,
Viber Team
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Thank you for your response.
I really like your app and use it all the time, but this "feature" is really bugging me since it impacts on my battery life.
Hope you fix it soon, and no, I wont push you over the edge
Like everything else about the app and don´t care about emotions and other stuff that I saw other people are requesting.
As long as I can call my friends and still have control over my settings i´m fine.
Thanks for an almost great app
very good ,thanks
+1
Can somebody let us know here when its fixed
So I can reinstall it
Viber keeps WiFi alive because it naturally thinks you intended to keep it available.
Might be a dumb question, but why aren't you simply disabling WiFi when you go to skeep at night? According to what you're saying, you want your WiFi to shut down the second your screen is turned off. After that, it will be deactivated for hours and hours until you wake up anyway.
See my point?
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Viber keeps WiFi alive because it naturally thinks you intended to keep it available.
Might be a dumb question, but why aren't you simply disabling WiFi when you go to skeep at night? According to what you're saying, you want your WiFi to shut down the second your screen is turned off. After that, it will be deactivated for hours and hours until you wake up anyway.
See my point?
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You have misunderstood the whole thing.
We want wifi to sleep when phone sleeps, not when we are going to bed.
Some routers drains battery more than 3G if you have good 3G signal.
So I only want to use wifi when my screen is on. Just because greater speed. But when I turn off my screen I want wifi to sleep and 3G to take over. Just to save battery.
No other apps I have keeps wifi alive and I have 70+ apps installed.
Android users want to control the settings the way they want.
We don't need an app that "assumes" that we want wifi to be kept alive.
See my point?
Sorry to say but the only thing that keeps me away from viber is this stupid wifi keep alive "bug".
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Go to wifi settings, advanced. There you see wifi sleep policy. Under this you see 3 options you can make.
They are there for a reason. Some users want wifi to sleep when phone sleeps. Some want it to be on the whole time, and some only when the phone is plugged to charger.
If it was supposed to have wifi on all the time this options would not be there.
I want to control my own settings, don't need Viber team to control this for me.
Should be illegal!
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@rodak -
We fully understand your criticism and respect your will to control your own Android.
However, please note that the number of users that want their 3G to be kept on instead of their WiFi does not make up the majority, and in fact makes up an extremely small percentage of users. At the Beta stages we tried implementing this feature for some of our testers, and this resulted in receiving multiple complaints from users that their Viber was not working properly. When we dug deeper we realized that this was the issue. Apparently, there are quite a few users that somehow accidentally turned this feature on, but did not realize that they did.
As such, we do not believe adding an extra "turn off WiFi" option is needed. It would merely serve to unnecessarily complicate the application. We are sorry if this is not the answer that you were looking for, but we need to make sure that adding features that would make some happy would not hurt other users.
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@rodak -
We fully understand your criticism and respect your will to control your own Android.
However, please note that the number of users that want their 3G to be kept on instead of their WiFi does not make up the majority, and in fact makes up an extremely small number of users. At the Beta stages we tried implementing this feature for some of our testers, and this resulted in receiving multiple complaints from users that their Viber was not working properly. When we dug deeper realized that this was the issue. Apparently, there are quite a few users that somehow have this on, but do not know about it.
As such, we do not believe adding an extra "turn off WiFi" option is needed. It would merely serve to unnecessarily complicate the application. We are sorry if this is not the answer that you were looking for, but we need to make sure that adding features that would make some happy would not hurt other users.
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Total fail viber.
As mentioned over 70 apps installed and only viber gets in the way of my settings.
Why not simple add this word in vibers description:
If you want viber to run at wifi all the time, simple change your wifi sleep policy to never under wifi settings.
Or just a simple "wifi always on" on/off switch in the app.
But you go iOS style, control stupid users that should have a dumbphone and can't change their own settings. So lets put them in "jail" and control their life.
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rodak said:
Total fail viber.
As mentioned over 70 apps installed and only viber gets in the way of my settings.
Why not simple add this word in vibers description:
If you want viber to run at wifi all the time, simple change your wifi sleep policy to never under wifi settings.
Or just a simple "wifi always on" on/off switch in the app.
But you go iOS style, control stupid users that should have a dumbphone and can't change their own settings. So lets put them in "jail" and control their life.
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Rodak,
Again, we understand your point completely. We don't regard our users as stupid, and never have we done so. Among the Android community we get many, *many* requests and suggestions like the one you are making. We welcome the criticism and requirements - that's why we have representation in forums!
However, please bear in mind that we are not able to comply with everyone's demands all the time. By itself, adding the option of "non-sleep wifi" button on/off isn't technologically complex of course, but doing so will again raise the previous problem. Users who accidentally use this feature will have their WiFi go to sleep. They will receive Viber calls (who will now use their 3G connection) and the sound quality will be disrupted, thus creating even more negative comments and complaints, etc etc.
When your product serves tens of millions of users it is hard to find the balance between all the requests. In this specific story, we are compelled to go with the preference of the large majority. We understand the inconvenience caused to others (like yourself) and we apologize for it, but by no means do we keep "insisting for no reason" because we believe our users are dumb. Trust us, all we do all day is listen to our users. I think XDA is the best example
This was the reason i left viber, and you dont need an extra button, you should not override the system settings, without telling your users. That's just bad policy.
If you don't want to use common sence and make your app listen to your users device settings, the least you should do is to tell them about it.
Your answer is also just a sign of lack of respect, you can talk about the community all you want, and how complex your problem is, but fact remains. You dont give a **** about our settings, and therefore you can write a whole seminar for all i care, it's just wrong to do this.
I dont want an extra option viber team, i already have this option to set my wifi sleep policy, why would you deny me the right to change this without telling me?
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This was the reason i left viber, and you dont need an extra button, you should not override the system settings, without telling your users. That's just bad policy.
If you don't want to use common sence and make your app listen to your users device settings, the least you should do is to tell them about it.
Your answer is also just a sign of lack of respect, you can talk about the community all you want, and how complex your problem is, but fact remains. You dont give a **** about our settings, and therefore you can write a whole seminar for all i care, it's just wrong to do this.
I dont want an extra option viber team, i already have this option to set my wifi sleep policy, why would you deny me the right to change this without telling me?
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Totally agree verrox. To bad that we don't get more users with us.
But OK, I'll make an app that turns your brightness to Max, turns off autorotate and turns on data roaming. Just to guarantee my users that they see the screen even in daylight, and that they don't get confused if the screen autorotates and last I'll enable the data roaming so they don't wonder why my app doesn't works when they go to another country.
All this is user settings FAILBER TEAM!!!
It's just wrong to manipulate this.
And for your information, wifi kicks back in when screen is turned on, so just keep wifi on during call will be enough. Don't override our settings in the OS. Fail fail fail.
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Totally agree verrox. To bad that we don't get more users with us.
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That's exactly the point - if there was a larger number of users requesting it, we would make the change in a heartbeat.
I apologize that you and @verrox feel like we're neglecting your requests, but as explained above - that is not true. Just FYI - I have raised your request all the way up to our CEO, but again - we wish we could help *ALL* users in the world who all had just one very important request. But unfortunately our resources are limited
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And for your information, wifi kicks back in when screen is turned on, so just keep wifi on during call will be enough.
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This unfortunately won't be possible, because there are serious problems of Android itself - it can't handle a clean switch between 3G and WiFi (this has been tested numerous times). We can't trigger the call on 3G, wait for Android to successfully (if at all) switch to WiFi, and only then start the call. The delay cuts the call.
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That's exactly the point - if there was a larger number of users requesting it, we would make the change in a heartbeat.
I apologize that you and @verrox feel like we're neglecting your requests. Just FYI - I have raised your request all the way up to our CEO, but again - we wish we could help *ALL* users in the world who all had just one very important request. But unfortunately our resources are limited
This unfortunately won't be possible, because there are serious problems of Android itself - it can't handle a clean switch between 3G and WiFi (this has been tested numerous times). We can't trigger the call on 3G, wait for Android to successfully (if at all) switch to WiFi, and only then start the call. The delay cuts the call.
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Then thank you and goodbye.
As stated before, viber is the only app that overrides my settings and I simply won't accept that.
There is a few more users at Swedish community's that is bothered about you way of interacting with our settings.
There are people that even have wiped their phones just because they thought there was some bug in the software.
Can you imagine how many hours people lay down to just find out that it's viber that keeps the wifi on?
You must type in description: BE WARNED, VIBER WILL KEEP YOUR WIFI ON ALL THE TIME AND IGNORE WIFI SLEEP POLICY. SO NO NEED TO FACTORY RESET YOUR PHONE. IT JUST OUR FAULT!!
I will investigate this and see if there is any legal action that I can take against this.
As I see this, this bull**** that you are doing is illegal.
This is my settings and you are not allowed to override this.
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Please relax, and let's keep this discussion civilized.
Your idea of adding a message (in Market, for example) that states that Viber needs to keep your WiFi enabled is a good idea. I will certainly pass it on to our management. Thank you!
By the way, it is important to clarify something - Viber keep WiFi on *only* instead of WiFi-sleep policy. By no means does it try to "fight" the manual disabling of WiFi on your Android.
Anyway, I will certainly keep you posted if I have any news. Thank you again for your concern and comments
I use my phone daily in a non-Verizon network, so having Data Roaming enabled is very important for me. The new ROM I installed, however, does not have a menu option for enabling/disabling Data Roaming.
Does anyone know of a way to do this through script? Or maybe there is something that can be changed in "build.prop" (or another file) that would change the default setting of Data Roaming disabled to be enabled?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vuvuzela.roamcontrol&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS52dXZ1emVsYS5yb2FtY29udHJvbCJd
Thank you, but that isn't quite what I'm looking for. It looks like it could possibly work, but I I'm looking for a way to permanently turn the Data Roaming on. I don't care if I need to edit the ROM files before I flash them or if there is some sort of hack I can install/perform after the ROM is running.
Maybe there is a way to install the AOSP or stock version of the component that controls this? Does anyone know what component controls the data roaming?
hmm i dont know how could you achieve this....its a bit more advanced
Still looking for the magic bullet
I'm very interested in this as well.
Does anybody know if the Roam Control app is able to keep Data roaming on at all times? I have not been able to find a trial version to try it out...
Or is there any other way of keeping it on? For a Motorola Droid 3.
I have tried modifying build.prop with many different settings that I have found in other threads but nothing has worked so far. I need to re-enable data roaming manually maybe 20 times a day.
Thanks!
Nobody?
I sent a mail to the author of Roam Control asking if his app is able to do this but still no answer
I finally took the problem in my own hands and managed to make a small app that re-enables data roaming at the touch of a button.
I needs to be installed as a system app for it to work, but it works! :laugh:
You can get it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165364
Well you're not alone
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Nobody?
I sent a mail to the author of Roam Control asking if his app is able to do this but still no answer
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I want to permanently enable data roaming but several Google searches have led me to only this thread. I have just downloaded Roaming Control and will tinker with it to see if it solves the issue of the constant nagging data roaming warnings.
I am confused. In my Jellybean settings there's a selection field titled "Show roaming reminder". Even though I have set it to "Never" it still gives a data roaming warning every single time. Either I am misinterpreting the use of that selection field or it's flat out broken or disabled by the carrier.
I cart my Transformer Prime back and forth between campus and home every day, and there's important enough information on my tablet that I use as complicated a swipe pattern as I could possibly make to keep it secure.
Except it's a royal pain in the butt when I'm at home. I tried both just dealing with it and changing the setting every time I got to either place but got annoyed with both solutions. Plus, with Tasker installed I always ask myself why do something when I can automate it?
I'm just wondering if what's asked in the thread title is possible, and if so, how? Thanks guys.
I thought tasker or a similar app could do something like that. Or find a widget or toggle button for THST feature you want.
I'm sure that tasker could do it, but on my own I haven't been able to figure out to have it change depending on which wifi network I connect to.
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I'm sure that tasker could do it, but on my own I haven't been able to figure out to have it change depending on which wifi network I connect to.
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I'm sure that there are apps out there that let you set different user profiles. I would think that would include everything.
Bob
I posted this in Tasker's Google Groups, but nobody had a solid solution for me. Since the XDA is full of intelligent people, figured I'd give this a shot.
I want to use Tasker to automatically enable my WiFi Tether app automatically under certain circumstances (namely, to sync my tablet's RSS while I get ready for work in the morning).
I followed these directions to set it up, but quickly discovered that the command was wrong. After a little searching and then taking this picture, I arrived at the command being !/data/data/com.googlecode.android.wifi.tether/bin/tether start. However, that doesn't work. When I test it, it grants superuser permissions, but never starts tethering.
It was recommended to me that I try the misc/script function, but I don't understand how that works. Alternately, they recommended I try the built-in wifi tether functionality, but as I'm on a completely stock ROM, I don't believe I can do that (unless someone figure out what to change to unlock it). I used to do that on my old EVO 4G with MikG, though, so I know that would work if I had a ROM with the feature unlocked.
So, any advice on how to resolve this problem is welcome. At current, I turn it on manually, but Tasker is great at making life easier and this would be a huge convenience if I could get it to work.
And before someone recommends a custom ROM, I'm on the fence with doing that. There are features I'd love to have, but the ROMs that have all of those features also have features I don't want (like remapping the multi-tasking button, for example). Perhaps someday I'll have the time to sit down and figure out how to build my own ROM.
No ideas? The XDA has never let me down, before...
I read a mod yesterday that enables the built-in tethering.. it was like 1 change.. it worked for me.
btw i have tasker but maybe people didn't want to buy it and therefore can't help, just a thought?
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open your build.prop and add anywhere in it the following line:
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ro.tether.denied=false
then reboot and u should be good to tether.
Well it's not necessarily familiarity with Tasker that I figured would help (of course, with the Misc/Script explanation, it would be), but rather the program language stuff. Perhaps the command I was using was wrong, and someone with ADB experience could correct it. With that said, I have seen a lot of people on here comment about how they use Tasker, so I didn't think it was a stretch that someone familiar with it could help with the Misc/Script part.
I will give your recommendation a shot, though. Thanks!
So I added the line to the build.prop, and it worked exactly once. Second time I started it, I got a data call failure as it dropped 3G. Continued getting the failure warning until turning off tethering. Repeating process yielded same results.
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Tasker for Wifi Tether
Not sure if your even paying attention to this post anymore but I had a few tidbits of info that might help.
I have had the same problem but I am using tasker in addition to NFC task launcher. I wanted to be able to turn WiFi tether on after swiping an NFC tag.
I tried the same string that you mentioned in post 1(!/data/data......) to no avail. The way that I got it to work was I set a task in NFC task launcher to open the WiFi tether app then a task that ran the string. Although the app opened and it APPEARED that it did nothing after that but it actually was working in the back ground. I haven't tested the same scenario using just tasker but it should work. So you should just need a task to open WiFi tether and one that runs the string. The string should be controlled with the Locale plugin. At least I think that is what its called. Hope this helps.