AOSP - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Are there no AOSP builds for this tab? Also why is everyone so gay for TW? It is hideous.

Honeycomb source isn't in AOSP, and I doubt there's much development interest in getting an AOSP Gingerbread build up and running for the tablet.
Regards,
Dave

I've read multiple stories saying 3.2 has been pushed to AOSP.

People like Touchwiz because it is a pretty nice step up. And in this case, the improvements are noticeable. As for AOSP Honeycomb? Well, you can always build it yourself if you want it that bad.

tw is nice. fixed all the little nagging problems on my tab

I'd rather return it since Samsung is pulling a Sony by selling you one thing then changing after you buy it. I thought people would have been pissed about this but it seems everyone is fine with Sammy running balls deep in ya.

march7th said:
I've read multiple stories saying 3.2 has been pushed to AOSP.
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Really? Go take a look!
I take it you mean posts like this one?
Note the update which says:
Editor’s Note: the sources that were released are the kernel sources and not the Rom ones. The latter are licensed under Apache, thus follow a different set of regulations. I apologize for the confusion.
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There is no AOSP Honeycomb source beyond the GPL'd portions, which essentially means the just kernel, and not Android.
Regards,
Dave

Yeah saw that and didn't get around to updating post. Thanks for the info.

march7th said:
I'd rather return it since Samsung is pulling a Sony by selling you one thing then changing after you buy it. I thought people would have been pissed about this but it seems everyone is fine with Sammy running balls deep in ya.
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Samsung already made it clear months before the tab was release that they were gonna put touchwiz on it. They never meant to have it as stock honeycomb, they did that at last minute in order to bring honeycomb 3.1 instead of 3.0. Also, no ones forcing you to update.

march7th said:
I'd rather return it since Samsung is pulling a Sony by selling you one thing then changing after you buy it. I thought people would have been pissed about this but it seems everyone is fine with Sammy running balls deep in ya.
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Please do, there's a shiny new Xoom with your name on it somewhere. Then, instead of Samsung going balls deep in you, the Xoom can go deep in your balls, heavy as it is.
But hey, it's "stock Honeycomb", doesn't matter that stock Honeycomb sucks, 3.01 through 3.2, since you gotta have that neon and black.

Too much weight for your limp wrists?

Croak said:
Please do, there's a shiny new Xoom with your name on it somewhere. Then, instead of Samsung going balls deep in you, the Xoom can go deep in your balls, heavy as it is.
But hey, it's "stock Honeycomb", doesn't matter that stock Honeycomb sucks, 3.01 through 3.2, since you gotta have that neon and black.
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Still looks so much nicer then TW. I agree, TW is so god damn ugly.

Findee said:
Still looks so much nicer then TW. I agree, TW is so god damn ugly.
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Then don't update to TW. Or backup your current rom, and install the TW to see if it's better or not.
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I have a aosp with TW base in final testing.
So you can the best of both, standard 3.1 visuals and apps with the TW speed.

Thanks, Doc!

DocRambone said:
I have a aosp with TW base in final testing.
So you can the best of both, standard 3.1 visuals and apps with the TW speed.
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Will plex run on it? TW doesnt bug me but the fact that it breaks Plex is a showstopper.
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[Q] Honeycomb HTC sense

Anybody care to hazard a go at getting Honeycombed HTC Sense to the touchpad? now that the source code's been released
What port would they bring? The honeycomb Version from the evo view 4g?
Sense is to incorporated. Into the OS it would be more work than worth.. let along sense is a RAM hog.... it wouldn't be very fast
Sense is bad enough on the phones. Thank the phone Gods for CM7 sent to fix them.
Evo view 4g or the Jetstream one too since the jetstream has the same SoC as the touchpad
I asked about doing this before....people thought
I was crazy
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well the ROM is there....the source is there....Honeycomb source is there aswell
we all know what htc are like when it comes to updates so i'm not expecting ICS till about february
I would pass on anything that is running sense.
However, honeycomb with TouchWiz UX from the Galaxy Tab would get me excited.
Honeycomb was finally open sourced when ICS was also released, but you still need to start from scratch. So, I doubt we will ever see honeycomb on the TouchPad, when an equal amount of work will give us ICS.
Plus, Sense was not open sourced. Sense is proprietary software owned by HTC, so any ports of Sense (and for the same reason TouchWiz from Samsung) would be borderline illegal at best. So, if it is done, I don't think it will be distributed or supported on XDA.
For the TouchPad we will have to rely on CyanogenMod, MIUI, or other cross platform builds (don't know of any).
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quarlow said:
I would pass on anything that is running sense.
However, honeycomb with TouchWiz UX from the Galaxy Tab would get me excited.
Honeycomb was finally open sourced when ICS was also released, but you still need to start from scratch. So, I doubt we will ever see honeycomb on the TouchPad, when an equal amount of work will give us ICS.
Plus, Sense was not open sourced. Sense is proprietary software owned by HTC, so any ports of Sense (and for the same reason TouchWiz from Samsung) would be borderline illegal at best. So, if it is done, I don't think it will be distributed or supported on XDA.
For the TouchPad we will have to rely on CyanogenMod, MIUI, or other cross platform builds (don't know of any).
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Sense is open now... its sdk is open source lol
And touch wiz. Is bust as useless... its a ui that looks like a kids toy phone... and useless features
I would also like to see this. I love the way sense looks on tablets. I Thought that Leoisright was going to try and do it, but he is doing a Xron version of CM7 right now, so i don't know if he gave it up, but he would be your best bet to ask to do this. Send him a PM and tell him that people do want this. Good luck.
ok before a fist fight breaks out lets just get things down to ground level lol....people prefer cm7 thats fine, doesn't mean bash the fact that it'd be nice to see sense on the touchpad lol
back to the point. if we can get enough people who'd like sense (i'll make a vote thing) then perhaps leo wouldn't mind having a look at this too
I thought that was more of a publicity stunt. I thought the arrangement was that people could alter and or enhance Sense, not freely take it to install on other devices. Sense is the only thing HTC has to differentiate itself.
Regardless, while sense is not for me, I agree more variety would be better for everyone. If it is possible, then I'm all for it, I just thought this was akin to the Windows 8 talk.
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quarlow said:
I thought that was more of a publicity stunt. I thought the arrangement was that people could alter and or enhance Sense, not freely take it to install on other devices. Sense is the only thing HTC has to differentiate itself.
Regardless, while sense is not for me, I agree more variety would be better for everyone. If it is possible, then I'm all for it, I just thought this was akin to the Windows 8 talk.
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A "port" of a is not valid for copy right laws as its just a port... now taking a rom. And slapping sense on it and selling is..
i've put a poll in now.....yay or nay would do
ace9988 said:
i've put a poll in now.....yay or nay would do
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I'm conflicted. Would I like to see it, sure why not. Would I like talented developers messing around with Honeycomb anything before ICS is fully ported, uh hell no.
in my mind...the only way we'll ever get ICS fully is through CM9 ..soooo, that kinda leaves talented developers with not much to do
ace9988 said:
in my mind...the only way we'll ever get ICS fully is through CM9 ..soooo, that kinda leaves talented developers with not much to do
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Wrong,... preludedrew has it booting.
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Yh but little else isnt it..... Thats the last i read... Feel free to correct me
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Heh. I thoroughly enjoy Sense. With BinDroid on my Inspire 4G, it doesn't seem that Sense affects it too much.
Agreed. Plus 1
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Leoisright said:
Wrong,... preludedrew has it booting.
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Yo, Leo hook us up with some Sense. I know you were talking about it. Do what everybody else won't. Thanks. I will def donate to you if you do this.

Rom Perfection

I think its time to change the theme of this post, as the original question has been answered.
New Topic-What do we need from Samsung to create the closest to perfect rom for this phone?
PM me if you want Samsung to give us what we need, so we can show them that its wanted.
Also you can hit my thanks button just because : )
and i quote
"because you touch yourself"
oh man
Do we have anyone over 3 in here?
im actually 4.
Hey Bro
Well we need to promote creating a perfect 2.2.1 rom, because only then can we improve on GB and ICS!
mkcbbusiness said:
Well we need to promote creating a perfect 2.2.1 rom, because only then can we improve on GB and ICS!
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...No that makes NO sense at all.
How would improving a 2.2 help with anything on GB or ICS?
Also no ROM can ever be perfect since our GPS is screwed and it works for some doesn't work for others.
Some ROMS 911 doesn't work.
There are issues that the developers just cannot fix without a bit of help from Samsung.
mkcbbusiness said:
Well we need to promote creating a perfect 2.2.1 rom, because only then can we improve on GB and ICS!
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I agree...we also need Microsoft to create a perfect win98 before of giving us win7.
Theory
Listen the theory is to stabilize areas there where we already have degrees of stability will help us more easily figure out other problems. Its like playing minesweeper, you eventually get good and are able to beat the harder levels. Nothing is impossible even without the help of samsung. Have some faith in the skill of our developers here bros.
Although I see where you're coming from, but just know there's major updates in the way things work from 2.2(.1) -> 2.3 -> 4.0.
Honestly, devs have gotten really far with the bits and pieces we have.
We'll never have a perfect 2.2.1 or 2.3 or 4.0, why? Because devs can't pull correct drivers out of thin air, if Samsung or T-Mobile actually supported us, it'd be a hell of a lot easier.
So, honestly.. I dun know why you're saying we should perfect 2.2.1, it's outdated, it's old.. it's a completely different base than ICS, so that comparison doesn't work.
we never had a perfect donut rom either.....
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Although I see where you're coming from, but just know there's major updates in the way things work from 2.2(.1) -> 2.3 -> 4.0.
Honestly, devs have gotten really far with the bits and pieces we have.
We'll never have a perfect 2.2.1 or 2.3 or 4.0, why? Because devs can't pull correct drivers out of thin air, if Samsung or T-Mobile actually supported us, it'd be a hell of a lot easier.
So, honestly.. I dun know why you're saying we should perfect 2.2.1, it's outdated, it's old.. it's a completely different base than ICS, so that comparison doesn't work.
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You bring out very valid points. Here is what I believe about that, the vibrant itself runs best on 2.2.1, and while the others are fun they will always be laggy. I'm not says the devs are not doing good, these are very intelligent people. I just believe that we need to get the rom working at 100‰ and if we can't 99 ‰ not including the GPS. The GPS we can overlook but force closes and other things shouldn't be a part of it. I think that moving on without completion will create a bad habit. Its like not finishing building a house and moving to build the bigger one. I don't mean to argue, I just like healthy discussion. : )
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Not sure which 2.2.1 rom you have been using but i never had a single issue on bi winning, in fact when i just need something good and reliable it's what i go back to
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Yeah, and I completely agree, I dun think devs should release a million different ROMs with the same bugs. So, on that end, I agree with you. I'd rather have a million updates of one ROM than have a million half-ass working ROMs. But, I don't think we should leave it to only 2.2.1 ROMs, some are working on 2.2.1, others on 2.3, and others on 4.0.
I can agree with that, I think we need to find a way to get the devs to collaborate on all the levels so that we can get some sweet custom roms flowing through the forums.... and I think I have an idea.... : )
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mkcbbusiness said:
You bring out very valid points. Here is what I believe about that, the vibrant itself runs best on 2.2.1, and while the others are fun they will always be laggy. I'm not says the devs are not doing good, these are very intelligent people. I just believe that we need to get the rom working at 100‰ and if we can't 99 ‰ not including the GPS. The GPS we can overlook but force closes and other things shouldn't be a part of it. I think that moving on without completion will create a bad habit. Its like not finishing building a house and moving to build the bigger one. I don't mean to argue, I just like healthy discussion. : )
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Completely disagree with you there. "Others are fun they will always be laggy."
I honestly don't know if you've ever tried any GB or ICS rom.
NONE of them are "laggy" sure they have their moments when you're running 50 apps and they lag, no ****, so does Froyo. Do you realize that a ICS rom (passion) has gotten GPS to work for nearly everyone? Froyo roms aren't even CLOSE to that. No one thats tech-savvy wants to stay on Froyo, froyo is last years OS, we all want ICS and thats what the devs like. They like challenges, and we like the outcome.
What I'M trying to say is.. why stay on a old-os when we have a new one thats available and we've already accomplished so much on it in such a short time (ex. GPS)
Well I have used them all my friend, and they are laggy no much how we deny it. So lets build this Tom house!
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mkcbbusiness said:
Well I have used them all my friend, and they are laggy no much how we deny it. So lets build this Tom house!
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I suspect your phone has **** inside it.
Please open the cover and remove the battery and check for any signs of ****.
You must be in the denial stage of the whole thing.
ICS has absolute no lag when doing normal things and when it does lag, its because well.. this ics wasn't built from a vibrant source like froyo is.
Ask anyone.
You certainly have not tried ics passion.
If you did, make sure there's no **** in your phone.
Everyone who tried ics says its fast, and if they do leave its because of 911 issue or the phone mute unmute issue.
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Ics has less lag than any froyo rom.
Well I guess well agree to disagree. There is no need to come up with some smart allic response with no real reasoning behind it just because you have a mouth. I'm just saying with this phone ics yes even ics passion lags, maybe not on the galaxy s 2, but with the vibrant it does. Maybe your right, that it wont lag when we get a vibrant build of ics. But for now, those are the facts. Thank you for your contribution though. : )
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mkcbbusiness said:
Well I guess well agree to disagree. There is no need to come up with some smart allic response with no real reasoning behind it just because you have a mouth. I'm just saying with this phone ics yes even ics passion lags, maybe not on the galaxy s 2, but with the vibrant it does. Maybe your right, that it wont lag when we get a vibrant build of ics. But for now, those are the facts. Thank you for your contribution though. : )
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Passion lags.
Onecosmic's has zero lag.
You are simply wrong. Very very wrong.

TouchWiz 4.0

Here's a look at what we're probably going to get with 4.0 on the note. What do you guys think? I personally am a little disappointed, it doesn't look nearly as cool as stock. Now I'm convinced I'll probably root and put a custom rom on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vi...id=annotation_326244&v=oXBbiy0Adiw&feature=iv
That's probably far from complete, its still using the gingerbread colors everywhere like for the battery icon.
Samsung developed a lot of custom apps and frameworks for the s-pen, so if you flash something like cyanogenmod you're going to lose all that.
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That's probably far from complete, its still using the gingerbread colors everywhere like for the battery icon.
Samsung developed a lot of custom apps and frameworks for the s-pen, so if you flash something like cyanogenmod you're going to lose all that.
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True, but you never know... the developers might find a way to add that in.
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True, but you never know... the developers might find a way to add that in.
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I'm not aware of anyone ever being able to incorporate parts of an OEM framework into an aosp rom. Maybe its been done, but I've never seen it with the phones I have or follow.
There is actually a version of tw out there that works kn cm
I forget where I found it but I kmoe it exists. touchwiz 4.5 i believe
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I'm not aware of anyone ever being able to incorporate parts of an OEM framework into an aosp rom. Maybe its been done, but I've never seen it with the phones I have or follow.
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So we souldnt use cm9? I really love stock android.... but if i loose the functionality of the s pen, then i might as well get a streak (or that new LG crap)
Orange_furball said:
So we souldnt use cm9? I really love stock android.... but if i loose the functionality of the s pen, then i might as well get a streak (or that new LG crap)
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I think some of the core functionality of the S pen can be used in 3rd party note taking apps. Skitch for example allows you to import photos and draw or take notes on them.
How about TouchWiz 4.0 vs HTC Sense 4.0? I havent seen either yet.
SysAdmNj said:
How about TouchWiz 4.0 vs HTC Sense 4.0? I havent seen either yet.
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Sense 4.0 is nothing amazing, some photos of the "final" build have leaked.
Mostly the same, some small changes from what I've noticed.

Closest thing to MIUI...

I'm looking for a rom that is similar to the Look of MIUI (obviously nothing will be very similar) but maybe something resembles it in some ways. I've recognized that there are 2 tpos of roms, the ones that follow the generic, gingerbread frame, or ICS frame (aokp, unamed, phonebricker, ICSrewed, CM7/9 etc.) and then MIUI, who kinda does their own design. I've been partial to MIUI ever since I laid my hands on it.
Reason why I'm asking for a look-a-like is because I've been running the scottish one for some time (1.11.9) but she's had the no service bug issue for some time now where everytime I attempt to make a call, 80% of the time it'll lose service and it takes like 4 tries or so till my call goes through. Unacceptable. Yet I can't keep myself away from the build. It's just so speedy. Wish I could have a more recent build for my I777 but I can't find one anywhere. I've also tried a million builds for the regular MIUI, 2.2.3 V2 being the most recent one I could find (I believe that's the most recent? I literally searched for hours), but this build also has the same call service drop bug. Can't stand it.
Can anyone help with my situation? Currently running MIUI V4 ICS, and it's sweet and all but it's wrecking my brain with how slow it isss . Anything similar to MIUI or help with a fix or newer version. Mucho appreciated!!!
Btw I'm no noob to flashing, have flashed at least 20 different roms and all, just wondering if there is anything I missed...in terms of what I'm looking for. Cus I hate settling.
Any ics rom with miui launcher.
Look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623026
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ACCUSED24 said:
Any ics rom with miui launcher.
Look here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623026
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Yeah I'm really looking for more than just a launcher though. I'm already aware of the creation of MIUI launcher and that's sweet but it doesn't encompass settings themes and notification draw down etc. I'm not super picky about that but I'd prefer everything to be uniform...so not gonna go with that method.
LewaOS is something i I'd call pretty similar to MIUI. Lilchris has a post of it in ported section.
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Weee
Biporch said:
LewaOS is something i I'd call pretty similar to MIUI. Lilchris has a post of it in ported section.
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Hey thanks a lot for the feedback! I knew someone had to have an idea of something with relatively theme intensive design.
In ported themes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533897
Closest thing to MIUI? An iPhone.
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LewaOS is something i I'd call pretty similar to MIUI. Lilchris has a post of it in ported section.
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Porting JoyOS soon, hopefully based on ICS.
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Virus1x said:
In ported themes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533897
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Yeahhh but I mentioned how I didn't like how slowww it was
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Closest thing to MIUI? An iPhone.
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Hahah yeah but I don't want that crap.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB_gs4Adwp4&feature=relmfu
For other reasons too, but I figured these would be funny enough
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thinking i may try JoyOS once ported
Help Needed
You guys know of any other MIUI builds other than WIUI and Galnet, which I'd like a later version of but can't seem to find anywhere. PM me if you have anything past 1.11.9, PLEASEEEEE.
VanillaCracker said:
You guys know of any other MIUI builds other than WIUI and Galnet, which I'd like a later version of but can't seem to find anywhere. PM me if you have anything past 1.1.9, PLEASEEEEE.
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really?
i mean, did you even open your eyes when you went into the dev section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1521
Pirateghost said:
really?
i mean, did you even open your eyes when you went into the dev section?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1521
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Duddeeeeeeeeee. Just went back through it and found AdyScorpius' version of MIUI. I'd gone through that before but I guess I missed this version. If it's anything like Galnet I'm gonna be soooooo happy. I'm gonna flash it now!! So excited hahah. I'm a speed freak, need my lag free interface, otherwise I get annoyed >.>
Thanks bro! Hope this rom isn't bug ridden. Seems very illegitimately put together, but all the people commend it! We'll see.
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.... Seems very illegitimately put together, but all the people commend it! We'll see.
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LMFAO.....
dude, its MIUI...it was built 'illegitimately' from the get-go...
Lol. If XDA ever gets a bus to drive us around in something tells me its gonna be a short bus.
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LMFAO.....
dude, its MIUI...it was built 'illegitimately' from the get-go...
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Hahah idk, I was reading up on all these bugs that I haven't really heard of in the general MIUI builds. I'm using it though and it's snappy pappy. Except going back from a conversation message, to just the conversation list. It reverts quickly, but the text doesn't load as quick as the transition. Annoyanceeeee lol. Idc though...sorta. Is good though. Is real good. Wondering if it's worth bumpin up to ICS V4 cus I didn't realize RIUI and AdyScorp were making roms like this. Trying to decide whether upgrading is worth the stupid notification swipe or not. So annoying.
VanillaCracker said:
I'm looking for a rom that is similar to the Look of MIUI (obviously nothing will be very similar) but maybe something resembles it in some ways. I've recognized that there are 2 tpos of roms, the ones that follow the generic, gingerbread frame, or ICS frame (aokp, unamed, phonebricker, ICSrewed, CM7/9 etc.) and then MIUI, who kinda does their own design. I've been partial to MIUI ever since I laid my hands on it.
Reason why I'm asking for a look-a-like is because I've been running the scottish one for some time (1.11.9) but she's had the no service bug issue for some time now where everytime I attempt to make a call, 80% of the time it'll lose service and it takes like 4 tries or so till my call goes through. Unacceptable. Yet I can't keep myself away from the build. It's just so speedy. Wish I could have a more recent build for my I777 but I can't find one anywhere. I've also tried a million builds for the regular MIUI, 2.2.3 V2 being the most recent one I could find (I believe that's the most recent? I literally searched for hours), but this build also has the same call service drop bug. Can't stand it.
Can anyone help with my situation? Currently running MIUI V4 ICS, and it's sweet and all but it's wrecking my brain with how slow it isss . Anything similar to MIUI or help with a fix or newer version. Mucho appreciated!!!
Btw I'm no noob to flashing, have flashed at least 20 different roms and all, just wondering if there is anything I missed...in terms of what I'm looking for. Cus I hate settling.
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MIUI sucks because it is so slow and in development. The only thing that is great about it is it's interconnected community and even app. Which is all JUST SHOW if you know how to flash your own ROMs.
If you want speed, battery, and best overall flawlessness I suggest: shostock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563747
It's the best. Just needs an android app so I know when it updates.
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Just needs an android app so I know when it updates.
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An android app like what MIUI has?
megamorphg said:
MIUI sucks because it is so slow and in development. The only thing that is great about it is it's interconnected community and even app. Which is all JUST SHOW if you know how to flash your own ROMs.
If you want speed, battery, and best overall flawlessness I suggest: shostock!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563747
It's the best. Just needs an android app so I know when it updates.
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I have nothing against all the Samsung Touchwiz based Roms. I just plain don't like em. I have two things that I need personally, and that is speed, and an appealing look/design. Although CM7/CM9 can have a...functional/sophisticated look to them, they aren't quite as unique and sophisticated as the MIUI themes. Namely, CM is all very square and proper, while MIUI seems to be a little more accommodating if you will. I like to speed through things, and I'm particular about the way I do things. For example: when texting someone I like to send a text, then go back to the conversation list, so that when I get a new text I can see who it was from. I used UnNamed rom for a little bit (a month maybe) - and also tried ShoStock because I'd heard a lot about that too. I flashed it, but it basically seemed to be the same thing. Anyway when using unnamed there was obvious lag interface between the message system when I'd press back twice really quick after sending a text (once to close keyboard, once to close keyboard, another to go back to conversation list). MIUI is more smooth in it's transition and seems to have not necesarilly more poignant scirpting but mayhaps faster. I like MIUI's notification bar and status bar. I like how the notifications have a page and I can click my wifi, data, airplane mode, gps, rotation, and brightness all on the same page, without having to swipe left or right to find more. Mostly I'm a fan of the themes of course, since they simply look awesome. If you care so much move to AOKP, it's better than any Samsung Touchwiz Rom I've ever used, for that type of person. I love AOKP, but I can't seem to stand the crude looking toggles/switches, and the damn launcer (all 3 of them). I find app drawers to be very unnecessary (my own personal opinion - plenty of interpretations there). But I'm willing to further discuss this if you want haha. No mean to be insulting but you basically started the engagement

[Q] Why do some want ICS so bad

I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
jrock2004 said:
I was reading a topic like this for the nexus s but I am curious why we need ICS for the tablets? What is it going to bring that honeycomb does not do?
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Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
Sent from my SHW-M380W using xda premium
Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
koe1974 said:
Here we go again. Great question, I propose that in this thread tell us what ICS will not bring.
So, let's begin...
It will not bring world peace.
Sent from my SHW-M380W using xda premium
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Agree. There's already a thousand threads about what's new with ICS (and OPs that didn't do their own research).
So here's my addition:
ICS will not get you laid.
ICS will not cool you off on a hot day.
I'm waiting ICS beacause it will bring native support to VPN connections with Group Authentication, that now is impossible to use with Honeycomb..
Jnn1 said:
Surely you've run into bugginess and fc and issues with honeycomb. Or to quote a gigaom article just from today:
http://gigaom.com/mobile/details-of...social&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=gigaom
"Google was late to the tablet game and its first effort, Honeycomb, was rushed and incomplete."
No wonder even Google refuses to open source honeycomb and asked oems and customers to move onto ICS.
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Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
ICS Will not convince your mother in law that S-Voice is NOT siri on android
ICS is never;
- gonna give you up
- gonna let you down
- gonna turn around and hurt you
ICS will never say "die"
ICS will never get you brownie points
I love this thread.
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
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don't get me wrong. I brought a galaxy tab 10.1 on the day it was released in nyc, and am presently a happy owner of a tab 8.9
Just HC had a lot of bugs and fcs in its initial release, though the most current Touchwiz based on HC 3.2 is definately more stable. But of course, by now, I've blissfully moved on to aokp ICS custom rom, and naturally feel no urge to return to HC. I m sure when you upgrade to ICS after sammy releases the official version this month, you'll not want to return either.
ICS can never match Klondike Bars
ICS Will never get rid of chart stains in your undies
Ditto
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Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
da_angelboy said:
Also...gives a more consistent feel between Android phones running ICS
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Also? Did you read the thread?
Panos_dm said:
Well, to be honest, I haven't found any major, or noticeable, bugs on stock. Could you tell me some you have run into?
And no major fc issues either. Some of the apps indeed force close, but that is an app issue and is usually rectified with an update from play. No hc blame there.
Of course every new android version is (supposedly) better than the previous. Gingerbread was way better from froyo, it had more features, but the lack of those features in froyo doesn't make it buggy. Hope you understand what I mean.
Sent from my amazing 10.1 galaxy tab
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Only cuz its a way better OS.. Best Google's work so far and it's really awesome.. Now if you want to stay with hc no1 is forcing you to do so..
It's just a dumb question IMHO.. If you have a 4 cylinders engine Chevy and out of nowhere Chevy calls you and tells to you that they want to replace your old engine for a brand new 8 cylinders engine FOR FREE, will you stay with the old 4 cylinders (that works ok but some times need oil) or will you be HAPPY and go get your new engine??
Again it's up to you to stay with your old engine or go get the new 1.. But consider yourself a dork If you don't change because you are okay with the old.
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ICS will not be televised.

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