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Which Rom for atrix gives more performance boost? (ive been lookingin aria, alien or CM) can suggest one of yours too. Im looking it for games..
Just from my own readings I believe that the CM7 pre-beta guys have gotten the highest quadrant scores. there is the slight thing with the camera though. I use alien myself and haven't had any problems but i'm mostly doing gensoid gaming. I haven't tried aura yet but it does look good. not sure if this helps you
Thanks it does help, i seen the screenshot it got 4000 on quadrant i run quadrant on my overweighted atrix (lots and lots of apps) i got around 1500, so i think it will give a boost =) maybe ill stick with the stock rom till CM comes stable.
Do your alien run better than stock? how much better?
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Thanks it does help, i seen the screenshot it got 4000 on quadrant i run quadrant on my overweighted atrix (lots and lots of apps) i got around 1500, so i think it will give a boost =) maybe ill stick with the stock rom till CM comes stable.
Do your alien run better than stock? how much better?
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using CM7, the stock camera doesn't work too well, but you can get around that by using a few third party apps from the market.
the fingerprint sensor doesn't work (which really sucks, because that was a major selling point of the phone for me) but i'm just dealing with that.
i've been averaging between 3700-4000 quadrant scores, and pretty much loving everything about CM7. i wasn't too big of a fan of all that motoblur stuff, so it's pretty awesome to get rid of it all.
it's definitely ready for a daily driver, for me at least, as long as you're willing to sacrifice the fingerprint scanner, and use crappy workarounds for the camera.
But fixes are on the way right? to get around those issues? i just want to have a smooth browser scrolling =( hope CM gives that.
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Thanks it does help, i seen the screenshot it got 4000 on quadrant i run quadrant on my overweighted atrix (lots and lots of apps) i got around 1500, so i think it will give a boost =) maybe ill stick with the stock rom till CM comes stable.
Do your alien run better than stock? how much better?
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I like it a lot more than stock. It's fully deodexed so all of the themes that people put together can be flashed over that rom. I'm a huge fan of CM7 on my nook color but I am waiting patiently for the camera and fingerprint scanner to be fixed when they can get to it. I have a company policy for exchange mail that requires a password and it's way easier to swipe and be in than to enter a password everytime.
yeah, but im seeying all this on the perfomance side cyanogen looks awesome so ill keep the stock then jump to cyanogen when its fully compatible, and then the ultimate android Ice cream sandwich come, hopefully with hardware acceleration then it will crush all iphones Muhahaha
I'm using Aura 1.1.3 Debloat #7 and it seems to be very fast. I use SetCPU and have it underclock the processor to 216 MHz when the screen is off. On the other roms, the phone would hiccup for a while before coming to full speed when I turned the screen on. On this Aura rom, I can barely notice a slowdown in the first half second and it goes straight to full power then. I believe it's because this rom is only 150 MB, as opposed to others like CherryBlur, which is 560 MB.
Every ROM has it's points.... I look at the list of whats included: My biggest thing is tethering but I was able to do it on every ROM so it really depends on what you're going to add to it. If you have a ton of apps, something that is debloated/deblurred is probably best but not important. Quadrant scores don't seem like they are entirely trustworthy enough to make one a winner over the other. CM7 isn't gingerbread so I wouldn't include that one right now in the mix. They all are stable though. I like Aura/Darkside and Alien. Ninja is still a favorite of mine as well. I don't use the camera much so D3 or stoc doesn't make a difference to me but you might have a preference. I'm not a Star Wars fan but I tride that one and it was smooth....I liked the Darth Vader breathing when the SD cards mounted LOL. I use ADW for a launcher beause it gives me the choice of several themes and 5 icons on the dock.
I'm a fairly new Galaxy Tab 10.1 user (had it for a few weeks, from the woot deal). I'm not new to android, however. I'm currently running the Task 7 ROM, but this issue seems to be present in all ROMs I've tried so far (including stock). Transition screens (when it zooms to launch an app), panning between home screens, scrolling in emails, etc. are all jerky.
I've seen threads about jerky video playback (movies), but I haven't seen much about this. I have to figure this either isn't happening to anyone else, or it's happening to everyone and people have just accepted it by now. Is there a fix for this? A kernel, or ROM, perhaps? Coming from an iPad, the jerkiness is very apparent, and it is really bothering me.
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I'm a fairly new Galaxy Tab 10.1 user (had it for a few weeks, from the woot deal). I'm not new to android, however. I'm currently running the Task 7 ROM, but this issue seems to be present in all ROMs I've tried so far (including stock). Transition screens (when it zooms to launch an app), panning between home screens, scrolling in emails, etc. are all jerky.
I've seen threads about jerky video playback (movies), but I haven't seen much about this. I have to figure this either isn't happening to anyone else, or it's happening to everyone and people have just accepted it by now. Is there a fix for this? A kernel, or ROM, perhaps? Coming from an iPad, the jerkiness is very apparent, and it is really bothering me.
Thanks in advance...
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I recommend getting a home screen replacement, like adw ex. That will get you silky smooth homescreen transitions. As far as any other lag, it can probably be fixed by overclocking. Tasks newest rom includes pershoots OC kernel, but make sure you do your homework before delving into overclocking.
At the moment my tab is running at 1.4 GHz and I haven't seen any lag, although you are correct that the device can be pretty jerky without using some of the great mods available here.
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I recommend getting a home screen replacement, like adw ex. That will get you silky smooth homescreen transitions. As far as any other lag, it can probably be fixed by overclocking. Tasks newest rom includes pershoots OC kernel, but make sure you do your homework before delving into overclocking.
At the moment my tab is running at 1.4 GHz and I haven't seen any lag, although you are correct that the device can be pretty jerky without using some of the great mods available here.
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I am running ADW EX. It dramatically improved the jerkiness, but it's still there. I mainly notice it when launching apps. The swiping between homescreens is not as noticeable.
I was hoping to not have to OC to fix the issue. In my experience (with phones) it usually leads to some other kind of instability...
Any other ideas? Could it be that the clock speed is dropping too low when nothing on the screen is moving, and doesn't spool back up fast enough?
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I am running ADW EX. It dramatically improved the jerkiness, but it's still there. I mainly notice it when launching apps. The swiping between homescreens is not as noticeable.
I was hoping to not have to OC to fix the issue. In my experience (with phones) it usually leads to some other kind of instability...
Any other ideas? Could it be that the clock speed is dropping too low when nothing on the screen is moving, and doesn't spool back up fast enough?
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Yeah you could play around with different governors, although pershoot's kernels generally have optimal default settings.
As for your choice to not overclock, I can understand why you don't want to, (as I have a fascinate and it's all to easy to cause instability) however pershoot did a ridiculously good job. Paired with setcpu you really only have to move the slider to your desired clock and your good to go, I've never actually had a random reboot or sleep of death with this tablet at 1.4 GHz. If you only did a slight overclock I really don't think you will regret it...
Edit: Also keep in mind that this tablet allows widgets on the homescreen, and by default it uses non uniform icons. For this reason you should not be comparing it to an iPad. At the moment I'm running with the suave hd icon pack (uniform icons) with minimal widgets and it's just as smooth as an iPad. (but also more useful).
Also a small tip, turn off wallpaper scrolling in ADW, it makes it seem so much more laggy than it really is.
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It will never be the same as an iOS device. Post 64 of the thread about ICS removing lag is helpful in shedding light on why. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20458845&postcount=64
Either overclock and live with a bit of it or get a plain uncustomizable iPad (talking homescreens).
That being said with pershoots kernel and supercharger/kernelizer/zipalign scripts the performance is noticably improved over stock and more than acceptable for many of us.
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It will never be the same as an iOS device. Post 64 of the thread about ICS removing lag is helpful in shedding light on why. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20458845&postcount=64
Either overclock and live with a bit of it or get a plain uncustomizable iPad (talking homescreens).
That being said with pershoots kernel and supercharger/kernelizer/zipalign scripts the performance is noticably improved over stock and more than acceptable for many of us.
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+1 this. If smooth homescreen performance is your #1 priority in a tablet, get an ipad. It's lower resolution and doesn't have widgets so it's sort of a no-brainer why homescreen performance is generally better.
Thanks for your input, everyone. It turns out that my issue is almost nonexistent when the screen is oriented in landscape mode. All transitions are smoother, scrolling is smoother, etc. Seems silly, but that's the case. Unfortunately, I use the tablet primarily in portrait mode, for magazine reading and puzzle games.
Dave
It's been said that this is a Honeycomb issue (portrait vs landscape scrolling lag) and that ICS should improve upon this. Many such as myself use our tablets primarily in landscape mode so we tend to overlook the issue but those who need to use the device in portrait do have to suffer with it for now.
This is my fifth prime bought the first when it was first released and bought and sold a few more since then I picked one up a few days ago for a crazy price i am now running virtuous prime and performance mode at 1.8 ghz and my galaxy note is still much faster with everything i don't understand this, i think the prime is the best 10 inch tablet i guess i just thought it would be faster when overclocked with a custom rom
for starters wrong section, should've been in QnA section. Second, you could've just posted that in one of the many existing complaint threads.
Not complaining just wondering why and how to make the prime faster
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Not complaining just wondering why and how to make the prime faster
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if you running a custom rom and overclocked it should easily run faster than what you claim. you must not of did something right. I'm stock, rooted, and overclocked n my prime runs circles around my Ipad n phone.
try a different rom and make sure its flashed correctly. virtuous is more of a stock base rom built for stability. you want performance, use AOKP or WSG rom or maybe even new gummy one. lots of different roms to try out. even still, virtuous overclocked should be running great.
OK thanks I will try another room btw my note is rooted running rocket rom lpy so it is not not stock, but it is faster then my current set up on my prime but i will take your advice and try another room thanks
Also remember that different chip setups use different speed tweaks. Are you running a third-party launcher? Any monitoring apps? What kind of widgets? What background services are running? I had virtuous with OC and it was great, but I changed to AOKP with OC and is much faster running the same apps.
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This is my fifth prime bought the first when it was first released and bought and sold a few more since then I picked one up a few days ago for a crazy price i am now running virtuous prime and performance mode at 1.8 ghz and my galaxy note is still much faster with everything i don't understand this, i think the prime is the best 10 inch tablet i guess i just thought it would be faster when overclocked with a custom rom
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Im runnin a custom ICS Rom on my Galaxy S2...Its overclocked at 1.5...And its pretty damn close side by side when I bring up stuff...I too am runnin the Gummy on performance 1.8...But its fast enuff for me...
And I just luv the view of a 10.1 compared to my 4.6 screen on the Epic 4 Touch...
why is my honda civic faster than a 18 wheeler? the 18 wheeler has a much larger engine and a lot more power!
The prime easialy outpowers the note however other things have to come into consideration: What kernel / rom is running on both devices, what device specific optimizations have been made for the specific hardware. What different chipsets, GPU's, screen resolutions, animations, versions of android, etc are there?
There are so many problems with this thread i dont even know where to start. As far as tablets go, the prime has the best HARDWARE. This does not mean, by default, the software will run faster. The same way that 18 wheeler has a much larger and more powerfull engine does not mean it will go faster than my honda civic with its 4 cylinder engine.
My suggestion is go on google and do some research on how android actually works. Learn about the hardware you complain about and maybe you might learn your answer for yourself.
Both are running ics 4.0.3. Both are running adw ex launcher and the same apps don't get me wrong the prime is great I am just surprised that my note loads webpages twice as fast on the same wifi network even on demand at 1400 MHz on the note vs 1800mhz performance on the prime - anyway I was just curious no big deal
lol im not surprised, wifi on the tablet sucks. try loading up some graphic intense games and see which has the fastest loading times. Its no secret the primes wifi sucks try a test that compares other things like the GPU or CPU.
And even if both devices have android 4.0.3 unless its stock google 4.0.3 they have been tweaked in one way or another. load AOSP on each and give er another shot.
just loaded up the gummy v1.2.3 and now it is as about as fast as my note on the internet - of course the prime has more power and gpu but i was more concerned with everyday apps like internet, etc. i currently dont play any games on the prime
i think i wil put an aosp rom on the note and see how it compares - thanks to everyone for their advice
btw i picked up this prime to test out the unlocked bootloader / customs roms, it was pretty scratched up when i bought it used but i put on a zagg screen protector and it covers up all the scratches on the screen and then i bought a nice leather case as well not bad for $100 total !!
I am looking into purchasing the SGP 4.2 as a means for very portable entertainment. I had the 4.0 and loved it - I must say I miss it a lot, haha. It went everywhere with me. I am loving the new look of the 4.2 version and would like to know if any of you are using this version and what your thoughts are. Aside from looks and what appears to be a slightly lower resolution camera, are there any major differences as far as performance could be concerned?
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I am looking into purchasing the SGP 4.2 as a means for very portable entertainment. I had the 4.0 and loved it - I must say I miss it a lot, haha. It went everywhere with me. I am loving the new look of the 4.2 version and would like to know if any of you are using this version and what your thoughts are. Aside from looks and what appears to be a slightly lower resolution camera, are there any major differences as far as performance could be concerned?
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Go to the all in one thread found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 and you'll find all the spec vs spec differencces. Stock vs Stock it's a toss up. On quadrant the 4.2 has between a score 1700-1800 where as the 4.0 has a score between 1200-1300. This is probably because they fixed the I/O performance on the 4.2 or used .ext4. On my rom and kernel I use .ext4 and without overclocking I got between 2100-2200. On Antutu however, it flips the 4.2 scores between 2600-2800 and the 4.0 scores between 2900-3100. I believe that the 4.2 is also currently awaiting to be rooted so there are no custom roms yet where as the 4.0 some.
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Go to the all in one thread found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 and you'll find all the spec vs spec differencces. Stock vs Stock it's a toss up. On quadrant the 4.2 has between a score 1700-1800 where as the 4.0 has a score between 1200-1300. This is probably because they fixed the I/O performance on the 4.2 or used .ext4. On my rom and kernel I use .ext4 and without overclocking I got between 2100-2200. On Antutu however, it flips the 4.2 scores between 2600-2800 and the 4.0 scores between 2900-3100. I believe that the 4.2 is also currently awaiting to be rooted so there are no custom roms yet where as the 4.0 some.
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Thanks for sharing the link! Hope I didn't post something that was out of place. Just looking for reviews from anyone that has the 4.2 - their thoughts on it and the performance. Have been seeing some 'not so great' talk from people that have it and the complete opposite, lol. Thanks again
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Thanks for sharing the link! Hope I didn't post something that was out of place. Just looking for reviews from anyone that has the 4.2 - their thoughts on it and the performance. Have been seeing some 'not so great' talk from people that have it and the complete opposite, lol. Thanks again
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You posted in the correct place. For reviews I go to youtube. Here's some if you haven't seen them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2oJpF9H25Y , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLLnXUKvNss, and the review that I think best captures the 3.6 and 4.2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu3p1b74--o ( suggest subscribing to her because she makes long and detailed reviews most are 10-20 minutes long lol)
Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tell ya, I'm happy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
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Hey guys,
Are there any Galaxy Mega users going back to the Note 2? I went back after using the Mega 6.3 for around 2 weeks and I gotta tenotificationappy I went back.
The Mega feels so slow and laggy, I'm constantly finding myself having to clear the RAM and close all tasks just to speed things up.
Swiping left to right always have a slight lag, opening the app draw has lag, heck even returning via home button is laggy. Exiting Apps like the browser seems to drop the animation of exiting it down to like 20fps.
Everything just feels like it stutters and lags, the phone feels like it's constantly crawling and the "pinch-in" lag is back too.
Don't get me wrong I love this phone, mostly for it size but in no way is it a bad phone. But I am slightly disappointed a phone with a processor that has similar instructions A15 isn't 100% smooth.
I've seen alot of you guy say you have a buttery smooth Mega, I wish my was the same, but it's far from buttery.
All in all, I'm happy I went back to the Galaxy Note 2, it feels so much faster and smoother.
just my few pennies.
P.S - Forgot my username and email address so had to make a new acount, doh!
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I hear you. The only slowness I am experiencing is the android notification bar. But its getting progressively worse. I disabled all animations and it sped the notification for a little but but now it's slow again. The device is very snappy but the ridiculously slow notification bar swipe is unacceptable. I am waiting for the Note 3 now......
sorry to hear you are having poor performance. Again I've only experienced iit when swyping down on the notification bar.
Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
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Hmmm I've been playing with my mega a week. I should of put that better ha .
It is a bit laggy n jerky now and again. But for £300 I'm really impressed and it exceeds my needs. Especially with screen size, design and how slim it is.
I'm selling my note 2 on eBay. And staying with the mega 6.3.
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I'm positive that a software update will fix the lags. I feel like Samsung rushed the software for the Mega 6.3 that's why it's not that optimized for the processor.
I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
I also use Nova Launcher and never had any slowdowns. I find my Mega smoother than my Nexus 7 and my original Note on custom ROM.
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I own both Note II and Mega 6.3 I9205. The slowdown you mentioned has got something to do with samsung launcher and the rom itself. Update
the ROM to the latest version available. I think that was XXUAMG4 or better yet download the customized one available in this forum (android development). The mega launcher was entirely different from GS4 and Note2. It support landscape mode and the built-in widget resizes accordingly.
I think this was taken from touchwiz tablets. Try to use Nova Launcher instead, then see if you still experience noticeable slowdowns. My mega 6.3 is butter-smooth with Nova launcher. I have never experienced any slowdowns at all, and will never go back to samsung's laggy default laucher. Also try to enable "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer's Section settings. Do not under-estimate power of Snapdragon 400 vs Exynos 4212. It's a hell lot faster in FPU. In fact in most benchmark, its faster than note 2 specially the graphics department. I confirmed this using the latest 3DMark. Dual-core vs quad-core does not make sense anymore. The CPU architecture is what really matters.
Also, the 1.5GB ram is more than enough for daily tablet/phone use. That includes gaming. My Nexus 7 is very fast running JB 4.3 with only 1GB of ram. My Windows 7 Pro netbook, which am using right now, only comes with 1GB of ram but still perform quite decently in multitasking considering that Windows 7 has got more bloatwares in it that Android JB and IOS combined.
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Thanks, I'll have to update it then because right now, whether it's the launcher or ROM it's ruining the experience.
I tried Nova Launcher and it was equally as bad if not worse the Touchwiz, it was still jerky and laggy.
And I agree, the benchmarks for the Snapdragon 400 are great and beat the Exynos 4 alot, but for me personally at the moment in terms of everyday use the Note 2's performance is so much better and smooth. I'd really like to keep the Mega, but unless the performance improves dramatically within a new update then I'll be keeping the Note 2. I'll try a custom ROM and the latest update, fingers crossed.
I experienced the slow notification bar and I was running ADW launcher. I disabled animations and it still was slow. I returned my Mega because of this. It was a total deal breaker.
Yes your right it lags sometimes
But thats why I am waiting CM team hopefully or anyone to build AOKP or CM or AOSP
When it reaches the mega it will be awesome
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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I have been thinking about going back, but i think i'm gonna sit it out till the Note III gets released.
The Mega has it's slow points now but i trust in samsung fixing some in the upcomming updates.
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And maybe CM coming over on the big screen ^^
I don't know exactly why some mega 6.3 owners experienced some significant slowdowns.
Maybe because of the ff:
1. Outdated ROM. Try to install the latest available rom even if its not for your country (XXUAMG4).
2. Stock launcher from samsung. Use Nova launcher or any other payware launcher of your choice.
3. Use Seeder program. I may help speed things up.
4. Flash stock kernel after rooting and stop using vcore2 kernel
5. You may have a faulty slow microSD.
6. Some other apps you have installed maybe affecting your otherwise speedy JB 4.2.2