I've read the whole cwm main posts, and so I kinda understand what cwm backup is, so heres a few quick questions on cwm (I'm sorry I'm still new to this stuff)
1.Does CWM backup everything?
like the state of apps to firmware version and eveything?
if not, please tell me what it backsup.
2.I've downloaded the CWM via Rom Manager 4.3.3.0, did recovery, and tried a backup, and,
it turns off, and the android dude under a big exclaimation mark is all I see, and it's stuck on it::So I yanked the battery out, and rebooted it(it the power button), and it, well, fine, so far. Tried again, stuck again, so, is there a solution on this??
ATT, 4.1.83, Rooted via Gingerbreak, Locked bootloader
1. Nandroid is full system backup, it backups everything, its a copy of your system.
2. I think this recovery is for bootloader unlocked phone only .
You need to use this recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019143
Guide to install it : http://briefmobile.com/atrix-4g-rom-installation-guide (Part Three – Tenfar’s CWM Recovery)
BTW, after you backup everything, go ahead and move to GingerBread.
Great guide over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
ofek said:
2. I think this recovery is for bootloader unlocked phone only.
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OP, if you haven't unlocked your Atrix yet then ROM manager wouldn't have been able to install CWM Recovery.
ofek said:
You need to use this recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019143
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OP, the CWM Recovery installed by ROM Manager doesn't quite work right with the Atrix. Which means that you can't really use ROM Manager on the Atrix right now, since almost everything it wants to do requires that you first install its own recovery.
So you'll need to use a slightly different version of the CWM Recovery created by member tenfar. FYI, the newest version is posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
P.S. Here's the easiest way to unlock your phone, install Tenfar's CWM Recovery, and install su for root access: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
P.P.S. Based on your description, it sounds like you're booting into the stock Android Recovery. To get past the icons, try one or the other of these two methods (based on your firmware version):
Pre-4.5.91: Hold the phone in your hands in portrait mode (i.e. not laying on a flat surface). Touch the lower right-hand corner of the screen several times until you find the "sweet spot". One you get past this point you'll see that there are touch-buttons in both lower corners of the screen. To accept an item in the menu you will need to touch the button in the lower left-hand corner of the screen. However, there's a bug in this version of Android Recovery which requires you to rotate the screen to LANDSCAPE mode before touching the button. Which means that once the phone is rotated you will be touching the lower right-hand corner of the screen...
4.5.91: I'm told that pressing both the Volume Up and Volume Down buttons simultaneously will get you into the Android Recovery, but I was never able to get this to work. I just unlocked my phone and installed Tenfar's CWM Recovery instead. There are no problems with navigating his recovery.
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OP, the CWM Recovery installed by ROM Manager doesn't quite work right with the Atrix. Which means that you can't really use ROM Manager on the Atrix right now, since almost everything it wants to do requires that you first install its own recovery.
So you'll need to use a slightly different version of the CWM Recovery created by member tenfar. FYI, the newest version is posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138541
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Updating the thread to say... at this point the recommended Atrix recovery is romracer's version, posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
romracer is actively maintaining this version, which does work correctly with ROM Manger (assuming that you install ROM manager first, and then use it to install romracer's recovery). Also, this latest recovery correctly handles backups and restores to/from both the internal storage and the external SD card.
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Hey All, I rooted tonight Via Revolutionary tool but now my phone won't boot.
Basically, I followed all the steps with the tool, Got root and Clockwork and installed the SU.
I rebooted and had a rooted phone.
I proceeded to install Rom Manager, and I backed up my Rom (Created a Nandroid backup I believe thats what it was).
I then downloaded CM7 (the latest one in the Rom Manager) and installed it.
The phone rebooted for about 10 minutes with that CM7 Boot animation looping. I took the battery out, held down the volume button and used Recovery to recover my nandroid backup from before.
Now I'm trying to reboot it and its stuck on the White screen with the HTC Logo just sitting there.
Really unsure what to do...
Edit: this is all kind of assuming you flashed the newest clockwork recovery after you d/l ROM manager ( version 5x of clockwork recovery)
Seeing as how your phone won't boot you will need an sdcard reader to do this. So assuming you have one or another phone with internet you can swap the card into:go [url="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386]here[/url] and download the clockwork recovery version 4.0.1.5 and place it on the root of the sdcard. (not in any folders) rename the file to PG05IMG.zip EXACTLY and put the sdcard back in the thunderbolt. Now hold volume down plus power Untill the bootloader screen appears. (you may have to select bootloader from the list with the volume rocker and tap the power button to select it) once in the bootloader give it a minute and it will find the file and ask you to press volume up to update. Do it. When its done select reboot and then boot back into the bootloader and choose recovery. Now try restoring your backup. It should.work now. The problem is Clockwork recovery version 5.x is having issues right now with restoring backups.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
Original problem of OP's CM7 install bootlooping was because he didn't wipe data/cache.
As for the white HTC screen it's hanging after restoring for some reason. People have reported this with CWR5 (if that's what you have) but I have been unable to reproduce it as of yet.
That said, it's probably only preventing that restore from booting. You should still be able to boot to hboot (pwr+VolDwn from an off state) and then select recovery at which point you can wipe data/cache and flash something from your sdcard. If you don't want to mess with an adapter to put something on your sdcard, you should still have CM7 on there. You said you used RomManager to download it so it should be in /sdcard/clockworkmod/download when you want to flash it.
Thanks so much! Since I couldn't get a quick response, I used an RUU and went back to complete stock S-OFF. Could you relink the clockwork recovery earlier version please? That link isn't working for me for some reason.
Thanks so much!!!!!!
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Edit: this is all kind of assuming you flashed the newest ( version 5x of.clockwork recovery)
Seeing as how your phone won't boot you will need an sdcard reader to do this. So assuming you have one or another phone with internet you can swap the card into:go [url="http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179386]here[/url] and download the clockwork recovery version 4.0.1.5 and place it on the root of the sdcard. (not in any folders) rename the file to PG05IMG.zip EXACTLY and put the sdcard back in the thunderbolt. Now hold volume down plus power Untill the bootloader screen appears. (you may have to select bootloader from the list with the volume rocker and tap the power button to select it) once in the bootloader give it a minute and it will find the file and ask you to press volume up to update. Do it. When its done select reboot and then boot back into the bootloader and choose recovery. Now try restoring your backup. It should.work now. The problem is Clockwork recovery version 5.x is having issues right now with restoring backups.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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^^^^^ Follow this to the T and you should be golden. Same thing was happening to me the other night and it all started after I updated to CWM 5.0.1.0
On another note after that debacle I switched to the unofficial TeamWin Recovery and have yet to have an issue. If you're interested you can flash it the same exact way as mentioned in the previous post but download the file from Rootzwiki
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php...ery-Project-for-Thunderbolt-(8-8-1.0.3-rbox.2
OK. so let me update yall.
I installed the latest version of clockwork, before yes, and it F'ed me up with the looping bootloader.
I installed the older version of CW recovery, renamed it and flashed it with Hboot.
My Flashes now are all 100% not looping and booting perfectly.
Thanks all!
Double check the backup files. i had a similar issue and noticed the files were backed up as .zip instead of .img. You will probably need to install another rom through clockwork.
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Double check the backup files. i had a similar issue and noticed the files were backed up as .zip instead of .img. You will probably need to install another rom through clockwork.
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His problem with restoring the backup should be fixed now. Koush released CWR 5.0.2.1 which should have fixed the ext3 problem with sense roms.
Hello all I am new to this whole rooting process... I am not afraid to admit it as we all were once new at what we are doing at some point. I need help creating a nandroid back up on my atrix. O have successfully unlocked the boot loader and rooted my phone. I performed a backup using cwm through the boot screen and then I proceeded to wipe all my data and install a new rom when to my surprise it got stuck on the boot load screen for 30minites before I pulled the battery and tried restoring to my backup that I made with cwm.. it appears that the backup only successfully installed the boatload.img file and none of the other. Img files therefore once rebooted my phone would stay stuck at the boatload screen... I finally wiped everything and found a gingerbread 2.3.4 version 4.5 beta and copied it to my external sd card and installed it through cwm choosing the zip file to install and rebooting. Now I am back up and running but I do obviously not know how to make a nandroid backup so if I decide to tinker around with my phone again I will not have the same problem as before. Any help would be greatly appreciated... I am sorry this is so long bit if someone helps me I would rather they know the whole story then just portions of it. Thanks everyone who reads this and replies!!!
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Hello all I am new to this whole rooting process... I am not afraid to admit it as we all were once new at what we are doing at some point. I need help creating a nandroid back up on my atrix. O have successfully unlocked the boot loader and rooted my phone. I performed a backup using cwm through the boot screen and then I proceeded to wipe all my data and install a new rom when to my surprise it got stuck on the boot load screen for 30minites before I pulled the battery and tried restoring to my backup that I made with cwm.. it appears that the backup only successfully installed the boatload.img file and none of the other. Img files therefore once rebooted my phone would stay stuck at the boatload screen... I finally wiped everything and found a gingerbread 2.3.4 version 4.5 beta and copied it to my external sd card and installed it through cwm choosing the zip file to install and rebooting. Now I am back up and running but I do obviously not know how to make a nandroid backup so if I decide to tinker around with my phone again I will not have the same problem as before. Any help would be greatly appreciated... I am sorry this is so long bit if someone helps me I would rather they know the whole story then just portions of it. Thanks everyone who reads this and replies!!!
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try RomRacer's CWM Recovery in the development forum instead.
Thanks I will look into that! Thanks for your response.
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Looked into rom racer's forum page still confused
Hello again, I have looked into the forum for "romracer" and there is still quite a bit of confusion on my side (noob). I am already nervous about flashing things to my phone since my last stuck in boot loading screen. My current version of cwm is whatever came with option number 2 on the automatic unlock file that unlocked my bootloader and also provided root access. I believe it is called "Tenfar CWM". I want to be able to make a successful nandroid backup and I am understanding that I need to flash the latest version of CWM for atrix. I am confused about how I go about flashing that onto my phone safely. I am sorry I am such a noob, but I want to understand how to get the latest version of CWM for atrix onto my phone... There are so many links to different things on the developer for CWM forum page that my mind is spinning out of control. Any help on where to download all the necessary files to perform this flash and how to flash my phone with the latest version of CWM for atrix 4G would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for being understanding and helping me through this process that seems overwhelming for a noob like me.
Thanks,
A fellow Atrix 4G owner who switched from iPhone to have the freedom to change what I want
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Hello again, I have looked into the forum for "romracer" and there is still quite a bit of confusion on my side (noob). I am already nervous about flashing things to my phone since my last stuck in boot loading screen. My current version of cwm is whatever came with option number 2 on the automatic unlock file that unlocked my bootloader and also provided root access. I believe it is called "Tenfar CWM". I want to be able to make a successful nandroid backup and I am understanding that I need to flash the latest version of CWM for atrix. I am confused about how I go about flashing that onto my phone safely. I am sorry I am such a noob, but I want to understand how to get the latest version of CWM for atrix onto my phone... There are so many links to different things on the developer for CWM forum page that my mind is spinning out of control. Any help on where to download all the necessary files to perform this flash and how to flash my phone with the latest version of CWM for atrix 4G would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for being understanding and helping me through this process that seems overwhelming for a noob like me.
Thanks,
A fellow Atrix 4G owner who switched from iPhone to have the freedom to change what I want
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1) Go to /system/etc. and delete "install-recovery.sh". This can be done with Root Explorer, available from the market. If it's not there, then don't worry about it.
2) Download which every color of Rom Racer's CWM you want to your pc (same folder as fastboot files).
3) Boot into fastboot mode and enter fastboot mode.
4) Connect phone to pc, and open command prompt from fastboot folder (shift + right click -> open command window here).
5) Enter fastboot commands from Rom Racer's OP.
6) Enter "fastboot reboot" to reboot phone.
7) Boot into recovery and make sure it worked
*If you still see Tenfar's recovery app on your phone, delete it like you do any other app.
OR
1) Delete Tenfar's Recovery app.
2) Go to /system/etc. and delete "install-recovery.sh". This can be done with Root Explorer, available from the market. If it's not there, then don't worry about it.
3) Download ROM Manager from the market (free)
4) Install the CWM Recovery for the Atrix via the ROM Manager App.
5) Use this CWM Recovery
or proceed to install ROM Racer's CWM Recovery...
6) Download ROM Racer's CWM and put it on your internal SD card (/sd-card).
7) Open ROM Manger App
8) Select install ROM from .zip (or something like that - one of the main options).
9) Select the .zip you put there, an uncheck the options (no need to wipe anything).
10) Phone will reboot, install the .zip, and reboot again.
11) Should have ROM Racer's version on the phone now, and be able to enter recovery via the ROM Manager App.
Thank you so much... I will try that once I have some time to dedicate strictly to this...
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Hello, I had some general questions about the recoveries and how they work.
I have recently unlocked my bootloader and did the "recoveryinstallerfornoobs" process and then flashed the superuser zip file to gain root, which all worked, which is great.
So just for my understanding I had some questions:
-I guess I got some after market recovery program from the install process I did above?
-Can you only have 1 recovery program on your phone at a time
-I see in the app market there is a clockwork mod app there called "rom manager", is the same recovery app that some of this programs like Xboarder and such offer you the ability to flash (e.g. flash ClockworkMod 5.0.2.7) or is it different? With the app in the market place you can can make back ups of your current ROM but it is also the recovery app?
-The recovery app if my understanding is right is the app you boot into when you want to flash a new rom, wipe data, dalvik cache, battery stats, factory reset ...?
-Once you have root access why would you use a program to flash the clockwork recovery vs just installing it via the marketplace if they are the same?
-I just powered up in bootloader mode and then booted into recovery and notice that it says cwm based recovery v5.0.2.7 so I think I have the newest version from CWM, even newer than what is available in the market?
-I see and "X" watermarked in the back though so i believe this is "xboarder" I am surprised to see that if this app is from CWM
-How do I update this recovery in the future?
-I also don't see the app in my list of apps for ROM manager so I am starting to think the recovery and the clockwork app in the market place are different and do different things
Sorry for the long email and nood questions, however, any answers anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Hello, I had some general questions about the recoveries and how they work.
I have recently unlocked my bootloader and did the "recoveryinstallerfornoobs" process and then flashed the superuser zip file to gain root, which all worked, which is great.
So just for my understanding I had some questions:
-I guess I got some after market recovery program from the install process I did above?
-Can you only have 1 recovery program on your phone at a time
-I see in the app market there is a clockwork mod app there called "rom manager", is the same recovery app that some of this programs like Xboarder and such offer you the ability to flash (e.g. flash ClockworkMod 5.0.2.7) or is it different? With the app in the market place you can can make back ups of your current ROM but it is also the recovery app?
-The recovery app if my understanding is right is the app you boot into when you want to flash a new rom, wipe data, dalvik cache, battery stats, factory reset ...?
-Once you have root access why would you use a program to flash the clockwork recovery vs just installing it via the marketplace if they are the same?
-I just powered up in bootloader mode and then booted into recovery and notice that it says cwm based recovery v5.0.2.7 so I think I have the newest version from CWM, even newer than what is available in the market?
-I see and "X" watermarked in the back though so i believe this is "xboarder" I am surprised to see that if this app is from CWM
-How do I update this recovery in the future?
-I also don't see the app in my list of apps for ROM manager so I am starting to think the recovery and the clockwork app in the market place are different and do different things
Sorry for the long email and nood questions, however, any answers anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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I got a headache reading so many questions. Felt like I was taking a final lol.
Long story short.
ROM Manager - Lets you make a backup on the entire phone. Allows you to flash ROMS.
CWM - The actual recovery. ROM Manager will go into CWM to flash the ROM or create a Nandroid backup.
Backing up Apps - I recommend using MyBackupPro.
"flash a new rom, wipe data, dalvik cache, battery stats, factory reset" - That's all done in CWM.
If you wanna update CWM, there will be a thread with the update. Usually you can flash it through ADB or flashing a zip file in CWM (same way as flashing a ROM
5.0.2.7 is the latest version of CWM
windcan said:
Hello, I had some general questions about the recoveries and how they work.
I have recently unlocked my bootloader and did the "recoveryinstallerfornoobs" process and then flashed the superuser zip file to gain root, which all worked, which is great.
So just for my understanding I had some questions:
-I guess I got some after market recovery program from the install process I did above?
-Can you only have 1 recovery program on your phone at a time
yes only 1
-I see in the app market there is a clockwork mod app there called "rom manager", is the same recovery app that some of this programs like Xboarder and such offer you the ability to flash (e.g. flash ClockworkMod 5.0.2.7) or is it different? With the app in the market place you can can make back ups of your current ROM but it is also the recovery app?
rom manager is the name of the program for android, clockwork recovery is the name of the recovery provided by rom manager. clockworkmod 5.0.2.7 is a recovery based on clockwork i believe (was made by xboarder)
-The recovery app if my understanding is right is the app you boot into when you want to flash a new rom, wipe data, dalvik cache, battery stats, factory reset ...?
yes correct. usually you can also flash kernels, but only if you have s-off...only some phones come with s-off by the luck of draw and there is no way at this moment to make s-on into s-off..you must flash kernels seperately and cannot be flashed through recovery.
-Once you have root access why would you use a program to flash the clockwork recovery vs just installing it via the marketplace if they are the same?
because the latest rom manager recovery does not have the 5.0.2.7 version from xboarder right now.
-I just powered up in bootloader mode and then booted into recovery and notice that it says cwm based recovery v5.0.2.7 so I think I have the newest version from CWM, even newer than what is available in the market?
like i said this version is based on clockwork recovery made by xboarder I believe. actually clockwork recovery is at 4.0.0.4 or something like that. do not use that recovery
-I see and "X" watermarked in the back though so i believe this is "xboarder" I am surprised to see that if this app is from CWM
like i said again it is made by xboarder and it is BASED ON clockwork Recovery
-How do I update this recovery in the future?
Same way you did now.
-I also don't see the app in my list of apps for ROM manager so I am starting to think the recovery and the clockwork app in the market place are different and do different things
I believed I have answered these questions above.
Sorry for the long email and nood questions, however, any answers anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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I think I passed my final
Thanks very much for both replies
To confirm, the app in the market place, ROM Manager, does not work with the clockworkMod 5.0.2.7 as they are developed by different individuals?
right now it is a bit of a pain as I have to take out the battery, and of course the back cover, in order to boot into recovery (I guess the phone just goes into a sleep mode when I power down and not a fulls shut down?)
I suppose with a matching app and recovery you can use the app to boot into recovery without needing to take the battery out?
Thanks very much and I hope I can return the favor to other noobs at some point
Here's a better answer...
Make backups of anything and everything.
Do anything and everything to get some experience for yourself.
If you break something, restore and try again.
Try different recoveries, try different roms, try different methods!
Nobody needs to ask for permission before doing anything. Just do it and learn from it! Don't be afraid of damaging your phone because with the exception of physical modification, I haven't heard of a way to break it yet. But... there's always a first.
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Thanks very much for both replies
To confirm, the app in the market place, ROM Manager, does not work with the clockworkMod 5.0.2.7 as they are developed by different individuals?
right now it is a bit of a pain as I have to take out the battery, and of course the back cover, in order to boot into recovery (I guess the phone just goes into a sleep mode when I power down and not a fulls shut down?)
I suppose with a matching app and recovery you can use the app to boot into recovery without needing to take the battery out?
Thanks very much and I hope I can return the favor to other noobs at some point
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your phone goes into sleep mode because you probably have it set on fastboot. Go under power settings and check fastboot off, this way you don't have to take out the battery. Also there are other ways of getting into recovery mode...read binary's first thread in the general section about how to root your phone.
Hi,
I finally unlocked the BL on my Atrix (4.5.91 from AT&T)
I downloaded ROM Manager and installed CWM Recovery. I managed to boot into recovery from ROM Manager once but now it's not working.
I get the Motorola Logo and then it switches to the android logo with an exclamation mark
I was thinking of flashing the touch recovery, found information here:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/install-clockworkmod-recovery-touch-on-motorola-atrix-4g-how-to/
Is there a newer version? Are these instructions accurate? Do I need to be in fastboot to do this?
Also, I never flashed a ROM before
I really need a clear NOOB guide for doing this and would appreciate recommendations for ROM (if possible, ones that have Hebrew)
Thanks!!!
before you start digging an even bigger hole... STOP
you've already installed cwm so I don't know why you would need to install another version? Right now you need to get your phone up and running again.
Try these steps... power up phone holding the volume down button to get into recovery. Did that work? If so you should see the recovery menu - select data/facory reset and press power to select and then try and reboot system... does that work?
If not I think you'll need to flash the sbf file using rsd lite. Instructions are easy to find on here. Good luck.
I think I didn't explain myself properly.
The phone works 100%, I simply cannot boot into CWM recovery
when I power up holding the volume down button I get to what I think is the phone's default recovery. I get Fastboot as the first option and I can browse through with the volume down button
Anyways, what I would like to learn how to do is safely flash CWM Recover Touch (just because it's easier to use) and Flash ROMs
Thanks!!
Insure that rom manager is up to date, then reflash cwm recovery & try booting into recovery again.
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OK, I re-flashed CWM recovery and it's working now
Before I proceed, I would like to backup my current AT&T ROM.
1) do I do this through th Backup and Restore in the recovery?
2) is this called NANDROID backup?
3) is it safe to restore from it?
I created a backup and again it does not boot into recovery. same issue
Will I always need to reflash it after each time?
OK, it only boots into recovery once after I flash it. Even if I don't do anything
ROM Manager is the most recent version (5.0.0.7)
Recovery is the most recent version according to ROM Manager (5.0.2.0)
Anyone? please help
mickeycohen said:
OK, I re-flashed CWM recovery and it's working now
Before I proceed, I would like to backup my current AT&T ROM.
1) do I do this through th Backup and Restore in the recovery?
2) is this called NANDROID backup?
3) is it safe to restore from it?
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1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
mickeycohen said:
I created a backup and again it does not boot into recovery. same issue
Will I always need to reflash it after each time?
OK, it only boots into recovery once after I flash it. Even if I don't do anything
ROM Manager is the most recent version (5.0.0.7)
Recovery is the most recent version according to ROM Manager (5.0.2.0)
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Flash the recovery through ROM Manager one more time, boot to recovery, and flash the latest version from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475444
See if that one stays working.
Okay my Atrix 4g has unlocked bootloader, Android 2.3.6, and I flashed CWM recovery the other day, and it worked fine except whenever I plugged in my phone to wall charger, it would boot AUTOMATCALLY into that recovery. Followed this guide: LINK
I then installed CWM recovery 5.0.2.3 from here: LINK
Now again when I plug usb into wall to charge, it boots into the first recovery I installed. I can't see the battery charge symbol.
Now I downloaded this ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1836674 and tried to boot into recovery from using the volume down button until "Android recovery" but that takes me to the stock 4 option crap.
So I tried to flash the MROM from ROM manager in the os, and it says restarting into recovery, AGAIN that takes me to the triangle exclamation point crap.
SO MY QUESTION is if I do a disk clear, format from the recovery, would my phone still work with T-mobile afterwards, and I can install the CWM again, and flash the new ROM?? I don't care about losing data, I have only few apps.
Here's a crazy idea - did you by any chance install the recovery image on the BOOT partition instead of the RECOVERY partition?
If you can't do it manually, there is no point in trying with ROM manager, since it can't do anything you can't do yourself.
ravilov said:
Here's a crazy idea - did you by any chance install the recovery image on the BOOT partition instead of the RECOVERY partition?
If you can't do it manually, there is no point in trying with ROM manager, since it can't do anything you can't do yourself.
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Here's a crazier idea - do you mind explaining things in more detail, since I am a noob and this is a help forum.
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When I install the the recovery, it just says hit yes to continue. Please help, rather than telling me that I am an idiot.
Apologies, didn't mean to imply you're stupid or anything. I said "crazy" because it is very unlikely but your symptoms kinda point to exactly that. This can easily happen actually - both the boot image and the recovery image are of the exact same structure (kernel + ramdisk) and the partitions that hold them are both exactly the same size (8 MB). The only difference is, with recovery the ramdisk launches an user interface and never leaves it, while with boot the ramdisk chains to booting your normaly system. Never tried it, but I believe if one flashes recovery on the boot partition, the end result would be that the phone boots into recovery every time you'd expect it to boot normally.
How exactly did you flash recovery? Don't link me to a thread or a procedure but rather describe what you did, what commands you issued and what was the response.
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Apologies, didn't mean to imply you're stupid or anything. I said "crazy" because it is very unlikely but your symptoms kinda point to exactly that. This can easily happen actually - both the boot image and the recovery image are of the exact same structure (kernel + ramdisk) and the partitions that hold them are both exactly the same size (8 MB). The only difference is, with recovery the ramdisk launches an user interface and never leaves it, while with boot the ramdisk chains to booting your normaly system. Never tried it, but I believe if one flashes recovery on the boot partition, the end result would be that the phone boots into recovery every time you'd expect it to boot normally.
How exactly did you flash recovery? Don't link me to a thread or a procedure but rather describe what you did, what commands you issued and what was the response.
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No problem mate.
Well I guess I could tell you what I did, but I did exactly what the guides said:
downloaded the .zip archive, placed contents anyplace, and started cmd from that folder and entered:
adb install MOTOA4_Bootstrap_0408_1720-signed.apk
Then I opened up that app "System Recovery" and hit Install recovery, then I hit recovery mode from the app, and was told to connect the usb to the wall charger, not pc. And that was it for the first recovery. I then noticed that this specific recovery was missing some functions in the actual recovery so I installed 5.0.2.3 later.
I downloaded the .zip from the site and placed inside phone internal SD, the second link from OP here, turned on phone and went into Android recovery and it opened up the one I installed just a minute ago, and hit install zip from sdcard, I hit internal, and selected the .zip I downloaded from that site. I hit reboot recovery and it booted into that recovery, 5.0.2.3, the real one.
To go to this new one, I insert wall usb to phone and it boots in the first recovery, and I hit, reboot recovery, and it takes me to the new one.
NOW whenever I plug in usb to wall to charge, it boots in the old recovery, and I don't see charge symbol. I have calibrated my battery 3 times, and it is still CRAP (brand new 1800mah battery for mb860).
Anyways, I thought to ask here if I did a wipe data from the new recovery, or old, would it get rid of this whole mess?
Hmm ok.
I told you this before but here goes again. I'd give up on random guides from random sites. Everything you need is right here on this forum.
Not to mention, the recovery in that ZIP is slightly older, there is a newer one available.
Here's what I'd do if I were you.
Do you have fastboot installed? If not, search for it on the forum for moto-fastboot, it's just one .exe file (no installation). Also make sure you have Motorola USB drivers installed.
Download RomRacer's recovery from here (I linked you this before btw). Make sure to select the IMG version, not the ZIP. Choose whatever color you want.
Place the downloaded IMG into the same folder where moto-fastboot is, and rename it into something simple, say recovery.img.
Power off your phone and power it back on while holding Vol(-), make sure it says Fastboot on the screen, then confirm with Vol(+).
Start the command prompt and go into the folder with moto-fastboot, then connect the phone with the computer and enter this command:
Code:
moto-fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Done. Reboot with Power+Vol(-) but this time select Android recovery (use Vol(-) to move the selection). You should enter the newly installed recovery.
The ZIP you downloaded seems fine, but it's somewhat likely your boot is also messed up too. If all this goes well, you can try finding the T-Mobile fruitcake (go over to the Atrix Reboot Project thread) and flashing it from the recovery. Be aware though that you might lose all data in doing this.
Once again, I told you all this before (not in as much detail though), hopefully this time you'll actually listen.
ravilov said:
Here's what I'd do if I were you.
Do you have fastboot installed? If not, search for it on the forum for moto-fastboot, it's just one .exe file (no installation). Also make sure you have Motorola USB drivers installed.
Download RomRacer's recovery from here (I linked you this before btw). Make sure to select the IMG version, not the ZIP. Choose whatever color you want.
Place the downloaded IMG into the same folder where moto-fastboot is, and rename it into something simple, say recovery.img.
Power off your phone and power it back on while holding Vol(-), make sure it says Fastboot on the screen, then confirm with Vol(+).
Start the command prompt and go into the folder with moto-fastboot, then connect the phone with the computer and enter this command:
Code:
moto-fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Done. Reboot with Power+Vol(-) but this time select Android recovery (use Vol(-) to move the selection). You should enter the newly installed recovery.
Once again, I told you all this before (not in as much detail though), hopefully this time you'll actually listen.
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ALRIGHT thanks for this actual guide.
It installed fine, works fine, AND AGAIN whenever I plug the wall charger in when the phone is off, it boots into the OLD OLD recovery, from the first link.
I still can't see the battery.
Please stop throwing sass at me. :crying:
Sorry, sorry.
Anyway, I'm thinking your recovery is fine, but I think somewhere down the line your boot partition got messed up. That's why I said you should try installing the T-Mobile fruitcake. (Fruitcakes are ROMs just like any other but contain the pure untouched stock firmware.)
When my phone is off and I plug it in, I get the boot logo and then the full-screen battery appears, just like it should be. However I'm not sure what this depends on. I always thought this graphics is contained within the bootloader (and thus no amount of messing around with flashing can interfere), but I could be wrong...
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Sorry, sorry.
Anyway, I'm thinking your recovery is fine, but I think somewhere down the line your boot partition got messed up. That's why I said you should try installing the T-Mobile fruitcake. (Fruitcakes are ROMs just like any other but contain the pure untouched stock firmware.)
When my phone is off and I plug it in, I get the boot logo and then the full-screen battery appears, just like it should be. However I'm not sure what this depends on. I always thought this graphics is contained within the bootloader (and thus no amount of messing around with flashing can interfere), but I could be wrong...
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I can only find this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
I downloaded the 2.3.6 ROM from the backup thread. Says nothing about T-mobile.So do I just install this from the new CWM?
Is there just no way of getting rid of CWM recovery so I can install it just once, rather than you keep telling me to install this and that?
Wait, I'm confused. You want to get rid of CWM?
The point of my previous post was to make sure you have the latest RomRacer's CWM installed fully and properly. Now that you have it installed there is no need to install it again.
Not sure what's your final goal though...?
This is the thread for the Atrix Reboot Project: http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1805666/
I think the AT&T 2.3.6 ROM should work on T-Mobile too, but in all honesty, I'm not sure. I think it'd be best if someone else answers this part.
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Wait, I'm confused. You want to get rid of CWM?
The point of my previous post was to make sure you have the latest RomRacer's CWM installed fully and properly. Now that you have it installed there is no need to install it again.
Not sure what's your final goal though...?
This is the thread for the Atrix Reboot Project: http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/1805666/
I think the AT&T 2.3.6 ROM should work on T-Mobile too, but in all honesty, I'm not sure. I think it'd be best if someone else answers this part.
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YES!!! Because everytime I connect the damn charger it boots cwm. AND EVERYTIME I hit ANDROID RECOVERY I boot into the OLD OLD OLD OLD Recovery.
why is that hard to understand? I want to uninstall ALL the cwms, and install the one you sent me just to have that one, rather having 3 different cwms I have right now.
Also that thread is just a bunch of people talking about nothing really. HAS ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with T-mobile whatsoever.
I just want to make sure that this AT&T phone will still work with my t mobile sim card after I install ROMs!!!!
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And for the love of all that is holy, don't reply with: "why won't it?"
BECAUSE THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING. I have never done this, that is why I ASK!!!!!
It is hard to understand because I don't know how is it even possible to have multiple recoveries installed.
At this point I would suggest you just go ahead and install the 2.3.6 fruitcake you downloaded. Make sure to boot into the CWM you just installed. (Man, even this last sentence feels weird... More than one recovery?!)
ravilov said:
It is hard to understand because I don't know how is it even possible to have multiple recoveries installed.
At this point I would suggest you just go ahead and install the 2.3.6 fruitcake you downloaded. Make sure to boot into the CWM you just installed. (Man, even this last sentence feels weird... More than one recovery?!)
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SO there is NO WAY to remove CWM recoveries?????
LOL THIS IS FUNNY! Now when I plug charger in, it just boots into OS, and when I hit android recovery with VOL buttons, it shows the white triangle.
Still don't get what that rom did. Installed it, and nothing, except for losing all my data.
This forum made things worse.
Thank you.
EDIT: OKAY NOW it shows the battery when plugged in but still the white triangle crap in the recovery.
You must have SOME recovery. You can install TWRP if you like that better, but you must have SOMETHING. By following the procedure I described you properly installed RomRacer's CWM so that part is fine. Now, why are you still sometimes getting the stock 4-option recovery - only heaven knows.
I don't think there's a way to install the stock Motorola recovery other than installing the full SBF, however SBFs are VERY dangerous and nobody is going to recommend that.
I really can't imagine what you've done with your phone. The mere fact you have multiple recoveries raises a big red flag right there. I tried to help the best way I can, but since obviously it's not doing much good, I'm going to refrain from further comments and let someone else take over. Good luck.
Ravilov has said it all but its pretty spread out trying to figure out what happened so I'm hoping I can tie it all together.
If you attempt to boot into recovery and get the old android recovery but booting normally puts you into CWM Recovery then somehow you have flashed the BOOT partition with CWM image. To fix this just download the correct fruitcake and flash the BOOT.IMG to the BOOT partition using the moto-fastboot tool and reboot. I would recommend erasing the BOOT partition first just in case.
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Thanks for your patience and help Ravilov
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