Ok now I've been asking all over this forum and can't seem to get a straight answer I was intrested. In unlocking my bl but was scared didn't wanna brick my good phone so I used my spare atrix with a slightly cracked screen now im unlocked and running on 4.1.26 the problem im having is not sure how to safley update to gb without losing my unlock Wat im trying to do is flash to alien but not sure if I can on 1.26 im confused really confused please help
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jimmerz0823 said:
Ok now I've been asking all over this forum and can't seem to get a straight answer I was intrested. In unlocking my bl but was scared didn't wanna brick my good phone so I used my spare atrix with a slightly cracked screen now im unlocked and running on 4.1.26 the problem im having is not sure how to safley update to gb without losing my unlock Wat im trying to do is flash to alien but not sure if I can on 1.26 im confused really confused please help
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Basically below are the two threads will help you understand what you need to do.
Basic requirements to load/upgrade your phone to any ROM are Unlocked Bootloader and CMW installed on your phone.
Good Luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202883
jimmerz0823 said:
Ok now I've been asking all over this forum and can't seem to get a straight answer I was intrested. In unlocking my bl but was scared didn't wanna brick my good phone so I used my spare atrix with a slightly cracked screen now im unlocked and running on 4.1.26 the problem im having is not sure how to safley update to gb without losing my unlock Wat im trying to do is flash to alien but not sure if I can on 1.26 im confused really confused please help
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The main thing to stay away from is the OTA update as this will create the potential for a hard brick. Now since you're unlocked, just load a custom recovery for the dev forum and install a ROM of your choice!
Thanku I wasn't sure if I could use these roms on this 1.26 build so I can go straight to gb from 1.26 ?
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Downgrading is usually the problem. Especially from 4,5.91. You should be good.
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You cannot re lock your boot loader once it has been unlocked.
If I were you, I would just OTA and unlock yer bootloader / root again if needed. Cause in all honesty you won't wanna go back to froyo from gingerbread. And if you want to you can just use a fruitcake. I did the OTA cause I knew I'd love it and there are always alternate ways back, unless you are a flashaholic and can't stand being on more than one ROM for more than 2 days. Then maaaaybe wanna stay away from OTA haha.
I don't think you should go OTA, just flash recovery then install whatever you want. Do everything through recovery / moto-fastboot and there's almost 0 chance of bricking
Remember to update your radio too
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Im waiting for tho official motorola ota of gb...I've been lookin around and some treads say we shouldn't flash sbf or ota due to possible hard brick can someone clarify?
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Im waiting for tho official motorola ota of gb...I've been lookin around and some treads say we shouldn't flash sbf or ota due to possible hard brick can someone clarify?
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It's ironic because the official motorola OTA is the one that is giving everyone trouble. That is this one.
If you want to get gingerbread safely you will first need to install 2.3.4 with an unlocked bootloader, follow these directions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142674
You can now flash roms if you performed that successfully, I would recommend this one since it is safe and great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159385
Cheers, pm me if you need help
The stock ota is safe if your not unlocked or anything.
But the stock ota motor has put something to prevent your from going to older sbf. The version kenneth has made is perfect. And still gives u stock rom with extras
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O ok thanks so sounds like kens version is the best way to go
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I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
Thanks in advance.
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Im waiting for tho official motorola ota of gb...I've been lookin around and some treads say we shouldn't flash sbf or ota due to possible hard brick can someone clarify?
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You can brick your device if you are not on 1.83 before you flash gingerbread on your atrix....at least that is what I understand from it. You can't go from 1.26 to gingerbread, you have to go from 1.83 right to gingerbread. And you have to unlock your bootloader otherwise you might screw something up.
PS. Please check your grammar man. Unless you're from like France, take the time and type things the right way.
Infected24 said:
I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
Thanks in advance.
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nope! its out in an SBF file I believe. As of right now, you will have to root your device and install 1.83 before you can flash gingerbread on it...I haven't installed a rom on here in like a months so I've been outta the loop I guess
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You can brick your device if you are not on 1.83 before you flash gingerbread on your atrix....at least that is what I understand from it. You can't go from 1.26 to gingerbread, you have to go from 1.83 right to gingerbread. And you have to unlock your bootloader otherwise you might screw something up.
PS. Please check your grammar man. Unless you're from like France, take the time and type things the right way.
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It wont load at all with 1.2.6 but that's not what is causing bricks going from 2.3.4 to any older sbf with the stock ota is causing the bricks. Kenneth build you can go back,and is safe to use.
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I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
Thanks in advance.
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No, its not out yet keep checking you updates wont be too much longer
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Infected24 said:
I have a related question:
Is the GingerBread 2.3.4 Motorola update out via OTA? I mean, "officially", so it can be installed on a stock unrooted unlocked Atrix. I read the update will be launch end of July.
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Motorola has given no date for GB release. End of July is only speculation.
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I updated with the official OTA to 2.3 and I've been reading a ton about the hardbrick mess that has surfaced along with the 2.3 update. Basically, I'm wondering what are my options as far as rooting, unlocking, and roms. Or am I SOL for the time being?
rooting, unlocking and roms are available for you. I OTA'd as well..couple days ago I unlocked my Atrix. Only thing you CAN'T do ..now that you've OTA'd.. is you CANNOT downgrade with RSD. That will cause a hardbrick.
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Okay, that's as far as my understanding of the matter went haha.
It may seem like a noob question, but what is the need to downgrade?
Hardbricks are from downgrading to a previous firmware.
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Yes, I'm aware of that. I want to know why I would need to downgrade?
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Yes, I'm aware of that. I want to know why I would need to downgrade?
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sometimes things go wrong when modding your phone. downgrading will restore your phone back to a factory state.
Okay, that's what I was thinking. So couldn't we just create a back up of our 2.3 OTA and revert back to that if something went wrong?
from what i understand you can sbf 4.5.91
"You can sbf 4.5.91 because it has the same identical bl bp pass"
quoted from here..right under the picture.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160408
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Okay, that's what I was thinking. So couldn't we just create a back up of our 2.3 OTA and revert back to that if something went wrong?
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That's the correct way of doing things without hardbricking, yes.
Unlock the BL, install CWM and create a backup of you system before modding.
Whatever you do DO NOT SBF back to earlier build.
Wow! This is the best answer I've been looking for for two days! There should be a lot of deleting and simplifying on this forum. People are going to mess up their phones. Just saying.
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Yes, I'm aware of that. I want to know why I would need to downgrade?
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For AT&T users, we had some good hacks that recommended that you went down to original stock Froyo.
Something like that is not an option anymore...
Makes sense, but I do prefer GB over Froyo in so many ways so its worth it for me, and hopefully new hacks and what not will surface in time. I'm patient lol.
well, some people also like to downgrade cause they like Froyo (huh?! who?!) and some people want back fingerprint (but im a patient one, so I won't ditch my gingerbread for something so silly =P). Like everyone said, if you DO need to SBF, just SBF back to 4.5.91. If you have an unlocked bootloader and flashed Tenfar's CWM, however, just eat your Fruitcakes and you'll be good to go. Those are totally safe (as far as I know =D Mmmmmmmm)
Happy upgrading! =]
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I may have to return my ATRIX due to Let'sTalk horrible customer service, but I was wondering if there is anyway to re-lock the Bootloader, or to hide the fact that it says, Unlocked. Thank you in advanced
Also, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, as this is urgent to me and I have yet to see any otherpost relating this topic.
There is another topic like this.
No you can't re-lock and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
Reflash To Stock
Unfortunately, there is no way to relock a bootloader. Hence all of the warnings when you committed
but, if you use 4.5.91 the software at the address below should reinstall the newest stock software...
direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/motosupport/source/SoftwareUpdateSelect.asp?country=USA&language=ENS
be careful because Im not sure how motorola update will react to an unlocked bootloader. Ask around...do so at your own risk.
If you want to try a harder, albeit, safer method, and you are sure that you do not have a phone running 4.1.5.91, you can restore your phone to a factory SBF with this process:
briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-system-boot-file-sbf-leaked
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TRY TO RESTORE A 4.5.91 system to stock with RSD LITE.
To go to any of the blue webaddresses above, copy-paste them into your browser. Sorry, but I am not allowed to post links yet.
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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But downgrading will hard brick the phone.be very very carefully.
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The downgrading and hard brick problem stems from using the OTA update, so you won't hard brick if for example you upgraded with KP's 4.5.91.
You also should be able to flash the 4.5.91 SBF. You just can't downgrade. There are other threads about this.
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maledyris said:
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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The reason the fruitcakes were created and deemed safe by the devs were because it didn't touch the BL, which people believe to be the culprit behind the hard bricks. NFhimself was brave enough to testing flashing the BL via cwm in his gobstopper on international phones, but I don't think any other devs are willing to risk hard bricking their phones by testing that theory on US phones.
There also isn't enough "reward" for doing so because if people want to downgrade they can use a fruitcake. The only gain is to get rid of the "unlock" text. But if you were really that concerned about it despite reading all the warnings of this will void you warranty, you shouldn't have unlocked in the first place.
maledyris said:
I wonder why nobody has created a CWM downgrade for US Atrixes. NFHimself made one for Bell or international users to go to 2.2.2 Bell and it works really well. Pretty much every partition is replaced. Great for masking that your boot loader is unlocked. Someone should probably do that for ATT to make downgrading less risky than flashing an sbf again...
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Hi,
One of the reasons I did up a default CWM of 2.2.2 is to have a means of doing a reset after trying all ATT/ORANGE/TELSTRA/MOVIESTAR/etc firmwares out there which may have side effects or accumulated side effects. Hence the inclusion of the stock bootloader and radio and a write of the extra partitions to clean up whatever mix and match leftovers are in there from the various carriers. The other big one is just to be able to get a Bell OTA applied when it comes out, it will probably be similar to the leak, but best to be safe.
This is more of a Bell/Intl issue as ATT folks tend to run just ATT firmware or flash just boot and system via CWM/fastboot and don't have the same issues as flashing a sbf file.
Both the stock 2.2.2 and leaked ap20 OTA bootloaders from Bell are safe to flash after IHOP, this is not the case with ATT bootloaders and may be the case for any included in a sbf file. Finding out the hard way is not an option.
Cheers!
ken218 said:
Assume you installed 2.3 using CWM, if that is the case, you can flash the stock 1.8.3. Because the bootloader is not compatible with the unlocked phones, it won't show the "unlocked" text when you turn on the phone. I have tried it when I was trying to get rid if the unlocked text.
The down side is, you won't be able to flash custom ROM until you flash a compatible bootloader.
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Say I unlocked it at 1.8.3 should I go down to 1.5.7? Is that safe?
moto helper update relocked mine flashed it to 4.5.91 and i had to reunlock and root agin i thought i was getting a driver update not ota.I was on rom homebase + extras but my win 7 64 bit wasent seeing my phone so i reinstalled drivers and updated drivers and updated moto helper and in the process flashed my phone to stock that pissed me off had to start over..I rebooted the phone several times and never seen unlocked on boot tried to fastboot into android recovery and got the triangle im all good now back on homebase ext4 just thought id share that you realy can relock at least it dont say unlocked i beleve its locked
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and no you can't "hide" the unlock wording. Sorry.
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Err...............yes you can!
care to share how?
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care to share how?
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Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
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Read the thread from the start. It's already been said!
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Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
leperkuan said:
Trying this today. Seems like my vibrator motor quit working. Phone is 6 months old I should be under the year warranty or so right?
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When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
CaelanT said:
When I was at school 6 months < 1 year so yes!
This is where you need to look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
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Lol well I wasn't sure it had a one year warranty. Found out my vibrator does work. Just sometimes doesn't on cm7. Weird. Well I may try this anyways. Tired of custom Roms.
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leperkuan said:
Found out my vibrator does work.
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Think you should go to another site other than XDA with this. Something in the XXX domain should work for you. Too much information for me! LOL................
assuming it is still in warranty
hard brick the phone and return it
just tell them you was doing a software update and your kid unplugged the phone while doing so
Im coming over to the photon from E4GT, tired of Samsung.
Anyway, Im confused about the most optimal route for flashing. I see bootstrap, unlocked bootloader stuff. I see a couple kernals, a couple roms....but then there is the OTA thing that will probably occur when I power on the phone. How will affect my rom set up? Why does flashing an ext 4 kernal break the wifi functionality? Why would anyone use bootstrapped method when the bootloader is now unlocked?
Idk, Im just a little photon newb, and I will probably told to go do more reading. But honestly I have such a headache from researching these phones (new sprint customer), dealing with my E4GT probalems....so if anyone feels like typing and introducing me to photon best practices, I will "thank" them.
Thanks guys
Root, Unlock with Pudding, Flash CWM, flash away.
What about that latest OTA? Will my phone alrdy have it?
Root, unlock, flash cwm 5, flash homebase 2.1 with 4.2 update. My phone has been flawless.
Unlock = loose 4g
Even if you get the latest ota the pudding flash takes you back, then whatever the ROM you flash its based on
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And welcome to the photon btw!
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Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
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Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
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Bootstrap is a waste of time.
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Just wondering, what problems did you have with your epic touch?
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Flashing issues with bootstrap, possible bricking, only really good for backups... My path for flashing was pudding unlock, root with one click root from shabby, fastboot clockwork onto your phone, then place the ROM of your choice on your phone via cwm... I'm running homebase 2.1 Deblur with update 4.2, and so far not a single problem. Just make sure you know what you are doing and read read read before doing anything. Any questions feel free to pm me or one of the other members and we can help you through everything!
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The title says the answer, can i? Tutorial? Or a SBF image to flash?
Any way to Brick the cell?
Thanks.
Flash the Froyo SBF and you'll be in the possession of a very expensive brick! At this point, if you really want to put Froyo on your phone, you'll have to find the Froyo fruitcake and flash it via CWM Recovery. This is the only safe way to do it, no ifs, ands, or buts.
Exactly! Do the Fruitcake method, or you could easily brick.
Going backwards is not easy like say Samsung phones, because Motorola was built with basically "1 way firmware". Fine for the average user, but so not "XDA power user friendly"...
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Velcis Ribeiro said:
The title says the answer, can i? Tutorial? Or a SBF image to flash?
Any way to Brick the cell?
Thanks.
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Why do you want to downgrade out of curiousity?
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I know bumping an old thread is inappropriate but I'm in the same boat.
After 9 months of use, my atrix turned barely functional and in order to get the warranty fix I deserve I need to get rid of that Unlocked logo.
I heard that if I flash a Froyo SBF on my atrix it wont do any harm (Brick) because my bootloader was unlocked on stock froyo too.
What is your opinion about that, XDA?