I'm looking to pick up a EVO 3D as my Desire decided to commit suicide.
It'll be a Rogers GSM version and next week I'm flying to Europe for a couple of weeks. With my Desire, running Oxygen, I could disable Mobile Data and keep WiFi on so I wouldn't need to worry about data roaming charges.
Since I don't have the unit yet, I thought I would ask before making the purchase and also because there's no ROMs for it yet that might add more options.
Thanks!
Before u turn wifi on turn mobile data off
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hope i'm not highjacking this post but...............can you use wifi tethering with mobile data off? and if so, what would be the benefit????
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hope i'm not highjacking this post but...............can you use wifi tethering with mobile data off? and if so, what would be the benefit????
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That doesn't really make sense.. because if there's a wifi signal, than the device other than the phone should just connect to the wifi router and not the phone.
WiFi tethering, to my understanding, is only beneficial if there's no wifi signal and then you can just use your phone's mobile data to browse the internet.
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That doesn't really make sense.. because if there's a wifi signal, than the device other than the phone should just connect to the wifi router and not the phone.
WiFi tethering, to my understanding, is only beneficial if there's no wifi signal and then you can just use your phone's mobile data to browse the internet.
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LOL....i'm sorry. I'm really just a noob asking stupid questions. I dont really know the difference between those connections. Thanks for the reply. i'm always looking for advantages and new ideas.
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Could you possibly get a mobile 3G network on the SGP 5.0?
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Well, since there is no 3g antenna, that means there is no possible way to get 3g, unless you buy a mobile hotspot.
Mobile hotspot or phone with wifi tethering.
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Could you possibly get a mobile 3G network on the SGP 5.0?
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If your on AT&T and have a non-smart phone Samsung Mythic... you can tether it to your iPod Touch (granted you have one) and make an Ad-Hoc network with it via the wireless, then connect to it on your SGP. Battery life is fantastic so you can just keep the other two devices (the phone and iPod) in a backpack or something near you. Tedious but it works, especially since the data is unlimited on a non-smartphone plan (and they don't notice, or at least haven't for the last 2 years) if you Bluetooth DUN tether.
How would i tether my SGP To a phone?
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Mobile hotspot or phone with wifi tethering.
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How do i tether to a blackberry.
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How do i tether to a blackberry.
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As far as I know, bluetooth tethering won't work with Android. So you'd need a phone with WiFi to share the 3G connection over. If your blackberry doesn't have WiFi, you'd need another device that does as the middle-man. Which becomes a bit of a hassle.
Google your phone and it's modem and make sure you won't get any extra charges for tethering (most phones WILL lead to charges without a tethering plan on unlimited data, but some seem to be hidden). And if you do, just pay for a tethering plan I suppose.
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As far as I know, bluetooth tethering won't work with Android. So you'd need a phone with WiFi to share the 3G connection over. If your blackberry doesn't have WiFi, you'd need another device that does as the middle-man. Which becomes a bit of a hassle.
Google your phone and it's modem and make sure you won't get any extra charges for tethering (most phones WILL lead to charges without a tethering plan on unlimited data, but some seem to be hidden). And if you do, just pay for a tethering plan I suppose.
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I have unlimeted data and yes my bb does have wifi
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I have unlimeted data and yes my bb does have wifi
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Then there is probably a guide somewhere on how to share it, I don't know whether or not AT&T will see it though, so be warned, I wouldn't risk a smartphone unlimited plan for that kind of thing. In my case, I pay for non-smartphone unlimited data and tether it so I don't really lose anything if I'm caught (It's been over 2 years so far) since it's like $10/month for AT&T 3G HSDPA.
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Then there is probably a guide somewhere on how to share it, I don't know whether or not AT&T will see it though, so be warned, I wouldn't risk a smartphone unlimited plan for that kind of thing. In my case, I pay for non-smartphone unlimited data and tether it so I don't really lose anything if I'm caught (It's been over 2 years so far) since it's like $10/month for AT&T 3G HSDPA.
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Dont use AT&T im British, but yes my bb is a smartphone. Does that mean there will be extra costs even if i do get unlimeted data?
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As far as I know, bluetooth tethering won't work with Android. So you'd need a phone with WiFi to share the 3G connection over. If your blackberry doesn't have WiFi, you'd need another device that does as the middle-man. Which becomes a bit of a hassle.
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There is an app called "Nook Color Tether" which is supposed to do Bluetooth tethering. I've got it installed but not yet tested it, but it might be worth a look.
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There is an app called "Nook Color Tether" which is supposed to do Bluetooth tethering. I've got it installed but not yet tested it, but it might be worth a look.
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Can i get it on the blackberry or do i have to install on player?
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I think Bluthtooth dun will help. But I never success.
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Can i get it on the blackberry or do i have to install on player?
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I don't think Bluetooth DUN is possible over Android. I know it is on iOS, but I don't think anyone has gotten it to work with non-Android phones (like a Blackberry or my Samsung featurephone).
You could use your BlackBerry to make a Wireless network, but that COULD impose extra charges depending on your carrier (AT&T charges a good $10+ extra (can't remember the exact).
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I don't think Bluetooth DUN is possible over Android. I know it is on iOS, but I don't think anyone has gotten it to work with non-Android phones (like a Blackberry or my Samsung featurephone).
You could use your BlackBerry to make a Wireless network, but that COULD impose extra charges depending on your carrier (AT&T charges a good $10+ extra (can't remember the exact).
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I have pda net but i do not know how to set up, it may not even work.
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Will it cost.
That depends on the Carrier. Here in the states AT&T requires that you go to a new plan (limited) and charges you for the privilage of sharing your data. Or you can try CM's new undetectable tethering as it is done at a lower level than the providers see.
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That depends on the Carrier. Here in the states AT&T requires that you go to a new plan (limited) and charges you for the privilage of sharing your data. Or you can try CM's new undetectable tethering as it is done at a lower level than the providers see.
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Interesting, have more info on this? Considering that AT&T detects tethering using browser useragent now (DO NOT USE Dolphin HD or any other browser that uses a desktop useragent on AT&T if you're on an unlimited plan!), there's no way to do undetectable tethering without an encrypted VPN.
To others - whether tethering costs you depends on your carrier. If you're in North America, it's basically guaranteed that your provider wants you to get a special tethering plan. It's usually possible to get around this, but as discussed above - providers try really hard to find ways to bust you. Tethering a Player should not cause any of the AT&T triggers discussed above though - I've been tethering my Tab 10.1 for ages without issue.
Can mod 3G for SGP with external devices???
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Can mod 3G for SGP with external devices???
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The bottom line is No. This device DOES NOT have a hidden/internal antenna and you can't mod it to have one. "External devices" would be a hotspot or cell phone that is sharing it's connection via tethering. Though I wouldn't consider that "3G for SGP", more like, "WiFi for SGP" since that's all it is; You can't make calls over the voice network through that data through your normal phone.
Kind of a silly question in general heh, but unless you go through a good deal of trouble to either get a hotspot device and carry it around, or do the Phone -> iPod Touch -> SGP thing I do; There really isn't any other way to do this.
I have an Optimus phone. Just added a Widgetsoid2 Hotspot toggle, push the button, and presto SGP connected. It is against terms of service on Virgin Mobile, but I plan on getting rid of my phone and getting Truconnect mifi. $5/mo Hotspot (plus .039 per mb). I use less than 100mb on 3G now that I have my SGP5.
You can make calls on wifi or 3G with GrooveIP. That's all I use on wifi, and I tested it tethered to my phone and also works fine.
does anyone have anything on free HTC hotspot,,instead of giving sprint 45 dollars,,,i have the htc eco view 4g....
You could
Turn your phone into hotspot by either paying the cell company for the option or one of the alternate free ways.
OR
Make sure your in range of someones wifi signal and leech off it.
Not sure what your looking for other than that
Thx..i have tethering on.my phone ...i was hoping not to carry my phone and be able to use only my tablet in my meeting
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Theres an app called foxfi that lets you do a hotspot on your phone for free on a stock phone if you dont want to root etc...
Unless you go for a data plan for your tablet your going to need some secondary device to get online, either a phone or a wifi router you can connect to.
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Unless you go for a data plan for your tablet your going to need some secondary device to get online, either a phone or a wifi router you can connect to.
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Yeah, the wording of the question is confusing. It sounds like the OP wants to have a free mobile hotspot coming from the View. Any type of hotspot coming from the View will require a data plan with Sprint first. There's no way to get free cellular data from it.
But if that isn't the desired outcoming, but rather it's having data on the View, besides purchasing a data plan from Sprint (which is very different than a hotspot), you'll have to either use WiFi or tether via a hotspot from a mobile device.
Thx,,your right
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Theres an app called foxfi that lets you do a hotspot on your phone for free on a stock phone if you dont want to root etc...
Unless you go for a data plan for your tablet your going to need some secondary device to get online, either a phone or a wifi router you can connect to.
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Never heard of this app till i saw your post... A BIG THANK YOU! coupled with PDA NET for Tablets does what wifi tether will not for me.
I can't believe I'm the only person to experience this.
Steps to recreate the issue:
Follow steps to remove flag using SQL Lite (Entitlement = 0)
Turn on WiFi connection and wait for it to connect
Lauch WiFi Tether 3.1 pre11 beta
Watch WiFi connection get turned OFF AUTOMATICALLY
Watch 4G LTE Turn on AUTOMATICALLY
Watch Verizon profit
Why??? Are we just not able to tether via wifi ? why is it called wifi tether? You mean 4G Tether right?
Also just tired FoxFi Tether and what do you know? WiFi mode has failed on your phone. Please use Bluetooth? LOL what is this garbage? is this a Verizon/Motorola thing?
Have never, ever seen this happen on HTC/Samsung phones.
Anyone pls?
ok, my first flame of the month: please take a logic 101 course, then reread your question. thank you!
Hey I even thanked you for attempting.
Regardless I would like to Tether using my WiFi connection and not Verizon's 4G.
Thanks! Anyone else care to take a stab at outsmarting me?
Why would you need to convert WiFi into uhh..WiFi?
Droid Razr MaXX
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Why would you need to convert WiFi into uhh..WiFi?
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I don't. I just can't understand why it won't work? Does your phone turn off wifi?
It shouldn't. It should let me run tether through my net connection or any damn connection I choose, not Verizon. Yet it keeps turning it off. Turning off my connection. It's odd, strange. I feel like I'm being controlled and oppressed by "the man!"
First phone I've encountered that forces Wifi off (a perfectly good connection) to switch over to 4G/3G. I just find it strange.
I'm new to Motorola phones, well I had the v120c in 2000 So far they're quite strange compared to HTC/Samsung.
Okay well first off... I don't know why you did the SQL edit because you're using a third party app anyway.
Secondly... I can't name a phone where you can tether a WiFi connection into another hotspot... There'd just be no point. Your connection will always be equal to or worse than your phone's, so you might as well just connect directly.
You're talking about internet pass through. Where it takes an existing connection whether it be wifi or 3G/4G and let a device use that for internet. What you're doing is data wifi tethering. Where it turns off your wifi radio and turns your phone into an access point so other can connect it and use your 3G/4G data to connect to the internet.
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android-wifi-tether
This program enables tethering (via wifi) for "rooted" handsets running android (such as the Android DevPhone 1). Clients (your laptop for example) can connect via wifi (ad-hoc mode)and get access to the internet using the 3G, 2G mobile connection which is established by the handset.
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WiFi Tether does exactly what it says it does.
If you want to use your phone as a WiFi share to connect a computer that doesn't have WiFi then you'll need something like PdaNet instead.
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Hey I even thanked you for attempting.
Regardless I would like to Tether using my WiFi connection and not Verizon's 4G.
Thanks! Anyone else care to take a stab at outsmarting me?
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Wifi tether uses your phones data connection to the carrier as the source and tethers another device using the phones wifi radio. This is the definition of wifi tether.
None of the aftermarket apps will work. The only way I've got this to work is using the SQL hack and using the native wifi hotspot app.
To use your device in this fashion the wifi radio must drop its connection to your wifi router, connect to 4g or 3g and convert the internal wifi radio into a wireless hotspot. This is normal behavior.
What your referring to is internet pass through as was previously mentioned
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OP, there's plenty of confusion over what you're trying to accomplish here. Please tell us the entire path of how you'd like the data connection to follow.
Router,
Phone,
Wifi device?
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OP, there's plenty of confusion over what you're trying to accomplish here. Please tell us the entire path of how you'd like the data connection to follow.
Router,
Phone,
Wifi device?
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It sounds like he wants his phone to rebroadcast whatever wifi network he's connected so other devices can connect to it.
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From what it sounds like, perhaps he is wanting to share a protected wifi network using an unprotected hotspot? *shrug*
Perhaps he wants his phone to be like a USB wireless adaptor that connects to a wifi ap and not use 4g? (kinda want to know how to do that myself). I was able to with no problem on a g2x
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Just to test it out the capacity, tempreture etc. That's all. Never had a phone that forces WiFi off when you try to share the connection, even though, it's logical since you would need a connection in the 1st place.
I've since found out this can't be done on this phone.
FoxFi - "WiFi mode has failed on your phone"
If i am not mistaken, he is trying to use his pnone as a WiFi hotspot, using FoxFi (same as i am trying to do) using his data plan, but FoxFi does not seem to be working. I have the exact same issue, wheter using WiFi or Bluetooth, my laptop can not connect.
Any ideas?
Try Fox-fi again its been updated to work with the RAZR update. Worked like a charm.
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I'm new at this, and so I appreciate any help offered. Here's my problem,and it seems to affects the masses:
Droid Razr -not Rooted
ICS OTA
Foxfi will NOT work on my Razr. I've deleted, uninstalled, reinstalled and still NOTHING.
Some folks insist it works, well, it may on their phone, but NOT on mine.
I have 2 Razrs in the house, and it fails on both. All it does is suggest Bluetooth, and that fails, too!!!!
Any or all help is so very much appreciated. Paying for 4gb data, and only use 1gb is kind of silly. I continue to pay because new share plan would cost more.
Thanks!
Helron said:
I'm new at this, and so I appreciate any help offered. Here's my problem,and it seems to affects the masses:
Droid Razr -not Rooted
ICS OTA
Foxfi will NOT work on my Razr. I've deleted, uninstalled, reinstalled and still NOTHING.
Some folks insist it works, well, it may on their phone, but NOT on mine.
I have 2 Razrs in the house, and it fails on both. All it does is suggest Bluetooth, and that fails, too!!!!
Any or all help is so very much appreciated. Paying for 4gb data, and only use 1gb is kind of silly. I continue to pay because new share plan would cost more.
Thanks!
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Root your phone and use the sql editor to remove the entitlement check, but it does require root.
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Actually how about a router that's running wpa2 and a PSP that only supports wpa? My other radio on my router is 5GHz which my phone can't see. So wifi tether makes sense. I'm forced to use my mobile connection because wifi turned off.
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Jay Evans said:
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WiFi Tether does exactly what it says it does.
If you want to use your phone as a WiFi share to connect a computer that doesn't have WiFi then you'll need something like PdaNet instead.
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I disagree.. when i was on GB, i used SQLight to modify my hotspot to give myslef free tether, WITHOUT an app, just used stock one...but since ICS update, I can't do it.. does anyone know how to bypass it? SQlight won't open in ICS now...?!?!
I'm not sure if it is just the connection or something else, but ill try to explain it.
I attend University of South Florida and we have a wireless internet throughout the entire campus. I connect to it using my student login. When on the network, it works great, ill lock my tablet and then come back and it will be disconnected from the network, and to reconnect I have to disable wifi and enable it and reconnect with a like 30% chance of reconnection.
Is this a modem problem or something? I havent heard of anyone around campus having this problem. My mobile data works fine, but Id perfer to save my data. I havent gotten to try any other networks because I live on campus and dont go off much.
When my mobile data is on, I will check periodically and it will be connected to the usf network randomly. Im very confused.
I am using a verizon 4g lte 10.1.
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I think I figured it out. I believe it was something with the wifi sleep policy. It was set to turn off wifi at lock and start using mobile data.
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Has anyone tried to use verizons' mobile hotspot with this yet? Every time I have tested it out it reduces the signal from 4G to 3G and never returns to 4G until I deactivate the hotspot. Anyone know if this is a design in the phone or maybe something I am doing wrong?
I'm new to verizon like as of two days ago and Ive been with sprint. Does verizon make you pay an extra fee to use the tethering service like sprint because i can turn on the hotspot and connect to it and its says its using 3G but i dont get any internet service to my tablet.
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Has anyone tried to use verizons' mobile hotspot with this yet? Every time I have tested it out it reduces the signal from 4G to 3G and never returns to 4G until I deactivate the hotspot. Anyone know if this is a design in the phone or maybe something I am doing wrong?
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I couldnt tell you as i do not have 4G where i live, wish i did.
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I'm new to verizon like as of two days ago and Ive been with sprint. Does verizon make you pay an extra fee to use the tethering service like sprint because i can turn on the hotspot and connect to it and its says its using 3G but i dont get any internet service to my tablet.
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The way I understand it is if you can access the service then it is part of your plan. Which is nice so you dont accidentally use it and get charged a boat load. I just moved to a share everything plan and was told by a rep that mobile hotspot comes included, which seems to be true since I am able to use is, even if only on 3G.
At the same time, I am able to use the mobile hotspot through a Rezound on the same plan with 4G all day long. That is why I am curious if it is the phone limiting my connectivity while using hotspot.
I am currently testing the mobile hotspot as I am writing you. I figured I would try it out since I've not used it as of yet on my new DNA. 4G is working and intact. No downgrade to 3G, and everything is speedy as expected. I would check your signal strength or other possible issues you may have with reception, as if I understand things correctly, a 4G connection will degrade to 3G in bad connection areas. Maybe your signal strength isn't acceptable? Just a thought. Maybe someone here has a better understanding of the underlying operations of what your particular issue could be. Good luck...
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I am currently testing the mobile hotspot as I am writing you. I figured I would try it out since I've not used it as of yet on my new DNA. 4G is working and intact. No downgrade to 3G, and everything is speedy as expected. I would check your signal strength or other possible issues you may have with reception, as if I understand things correctly, a 4G connection will degrade to 3G in bad connection areas. Maybe your signal strength isn't acceptable? Just a thought. Maybe someone here has a better understanding of the underlying operations of what your particular issue could be. Good luck...
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I guess I figured out what my problem was. I just restarted my phone and tested again and it works perfectly. I dont know what its malfunction was but its all good now.