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Hi
I have just recieved a new HTC Hero on contract with 3. I am relatively new to ROMs and radios etc. I just had a few questions with regards to the hero ?
I only have an internet allowance of 512mb, will this be enough for the phone ? Are there any free programs which can track this ?
I want to change to the latest 2.1 Rom but I am unsure if this ROM is faster than the current 1.5 ROM. What would you recommend is the fastest and most stable 2.1 ROM for the hero ?
Does the 2.1 ROM use more battery power than the 1.5 ROM ?
If I were to change the ROM would I be able to make a backup of the "out fo the box" ROM. I know I have a lot of questions and most likely a few more to follow but any feedback is appreciated.
Regards,
Riyaz
riyaz_7 said:
Hi
I have just recieved a new HTC Hero on contract with 3. I am relatively new to ROMs and radios etc. I just had a few questions with regards to the hero ?
I only have an internet allowance of 512mb, will this be enough for the phone ? Are there any free programs which can track this ?
I want to change to the latest 2.1 Rom but I am unsure if this ROM is faster than the current 1.5 ROM. What would you recommend is the fastest and most stable 2.1 ROM for the hero ?
Does the 2.1 ROM use more battery power than the 1.5 ROM ?
If I were to change the ROM would I be able to make a backup of the "out fo the box" ROM. I know I have a lot of questions and most likely a few more to follow but any feedback is appreciated.
Regards,
Riyaz
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OK. 2.1 ROMs are miles better
Battery life should be a bit better. You make a nandroid backup if you want to store your current config.
There are apps to track data usage in the market (free). Droidwall (on custom ROM) will let you control what apps get internet access.
If you ever needed to restore to box condition, you could run your nandroid restore, or just use a goldcard and 3 UK RUU
HTH
512 meg will usually be enough provided you dont sit there on youtube all month, or use tethering and download substantial amounts. Make sure it connects to Wifi when it can. I have 500mb and while it seems little I've never had a problem.
I rooted a 3 uk hero the other day. Massive issues with it. I was on 2.73.771.73 or something and I had to make a goldcard, then downgrade to something else, then install flashrec, then flash a new recovery then flash a rom. Horrible to find the drivers etc needed to downgrade though. I needed to change them to "My HTC" drivers for HTC Sync and bootloader. Using 64 bit win 7 by the way.
I appreciate the feedback guys. I have done some more reading and I think I want to install VillainROM 12. Just a few more questions before I attempt to have a go !
Is the goldcard method the best way to root the hero ?
Once it is rooted, would it be relatively easy to return to the original 3 uk rom ? (How would I create a backup of this ?)
To install this ROM am I correct in assuming I would need to root the phone. As my phone is on the 3 UK network, it is running android 1.5. I am unsure of which radio is installed, and hence would you recommend updating the radio to:
"update-hero-radio-63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.14-signed.zip" ? (I think this is the most up to date radio for the hero).
I know some of these questions are probably common knowledge but I am new to this so please bear with me.
Riyaz
riyaz_7 said:
I appreciate the feedback guys. I have done some more reading and I think I want to install VillainROM 12. Just a few more questions before I attempt to have a go !
Is the goldcard method the best way to root the hero ?
Once it is rooted, would it be relatively easy to return to the original 3 uk rom ? (How would I create a backup of this ?)
To install this ROM am I correct in assuming I would need to root the phone. As my phone is on the 3 UK network, it is running android 1.5. I am unsure of which radio is installed, and hence would you recommend updating the radio to:
"update-hero-radio-63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.14-signed.zip" ? (I think this is the most up to date radio for the hero).
I know some of these questions are probably common knowledge but I am new to this so please bear with me.
Riyaz
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I've rooted my hero on 3. i'm using that radio and VR12.
First off, I used a goldcard to to downgrade then flash the recovery then you can do what you like. Ive not tried going back to stock though.
Good luck.
saf1901 said:
I've rooted my hero on 3. i'm using that radio and VR12.
First off, I used a goldcard to to downgrade then flash the recovery then you can do what you like. Ive not tried going back to stock though.
Good luck.
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Just wondering is VR12 a quick ROM or is superhero 2.0 quicker ?
hi
cuurent rom is better . wait for new upgrade to froyo 2.2 . otherwise you can do cutom rom
thanks
Thank you very much for the support guys. I have done a bit more reading and I think I have it figured out but before I start just wanted to confirm the process in case I miss something out or the order is incorrect. This is the process I plan on using:
1. Backup the phone using nandroid and save folder on to PC
2. Goldcard procedure. Setup SDK, create the goldcard.
3. Downgrade using this goldcard to 2.73.405.5
4. Install AmonRa's (v1.6.2) Hero recovery image (Am I correct in thinking there is a new recovery image out ? Which one should I use ?)
5. Load VR12 and reboot
6. Update the radio to 63.18.55.06PU_6.35.15.14. This bit scares me as I think this may potentially brick the handset !
7. Reboot phone and hopefully should have rooted hero with VR12 and latest radio.
Is this order correct ? Any tips ?
I will be using Windows 7 32 bit, do I need to install any extra driver's ?
Many thanks
Riyaz
You have it summed up correctly (assuming you're currently running v1.5 of android).
To answer a few of your questions/worries
Yes there is a new version of AmonRA's recovery. May as well use it. Seems fine to me. v1.7.0.1 (i think)
The radio will be fine. It's only an issue if you pull the battery whilst its going (user error) or you have a sprint cdma hero (user error).
Tips - install the latest version of HTC Sync v3.0.5387 from here first. This will ensure the correct drivers are installed. If you get an error whilst downgrading just update the drivers in windows to those installed with HTC Sync (HTC folder on C drive) and run the update again and all will work. That is perfectly normal and happens to some (probably most) users.
Enjoy.
Hi
I installed the HTC Sync in that link but when I try to connect it says this software is only for devices which are running 2.1.
Any ideas ? I cannot set-up ADB without syncing the phone. I hate windows 7 !
Doesn't matter - just need the drivers. Nothing else
Thanks I will continue tonight. Just another question about backing up the original rom on the phone. Am I correct in assuming I need to switch the phone off, turn back on and hold power button and home key and it boots into recovery mode I think. I do not see an option to create a backup. I do however get a cache error. Any idea's ? Am I doing something wrong ? Can I create a backup image via this method ?
Any idea's ?
Apprecuate the feedback guys.
You haven't got a custom recovery image on the phone yet. What part of the process are you trying to do?
Hi
Sorry I just re read my post and it is not very clear. I am referring to the first step of making a backup. If i want to make a backup of the original ROM on the phone (the three ROM), how would I go about making a full backup incase anything goes wrong whilst I am trying to root the phone ? What I am trying to say is I want to have abackup incase I get it wrong whilst rooting.
Apologies for the questions.
You'll have to read up on that. I don't think there is an easy to follow guide. Check out the nandroid details with a quick google search. Personally i've never bothered with this part of the process because as long as there is a 3 network rru exe file (check htc's website) then you can always go back (obviously losing your personal settings). When you run the rru it removes everything you have done and sets the phone back to the state it arrived in.
If you do do it then please make a simple to follow guide for others.
Am I correct in thinking that if anything were to go wrong during the rooting process, I can still restore the phone via a 3 network rru exe file (all be it loosing my settings). Just in case I do make a mistake, how would I go about restoring the phone ? Would I simply place the RUU file on an SD card and then run the RUU file ? How would I run the RUU file ?
I have looked on the HTC website and cannot seem to find this RUU file for a hero on the 3 network. Does anyone have this RUU file and would they be kind enough to forward it on to me or a link to the RUU ?
Thank you guys for being so patient. I know I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer !
http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283&cat=2&dl_id=840
That should be the 3UK rru file. I would recommend keeping a copy just in case. You just run the file from any windows PC and it will do its stuff.
You are correct in your deductions and sharp enough
Hi
Just an update guys, I have managed to create a goldcard but I cannot get HTC sync to work with Windows 7. I tried to follow the advice provided but it just states Windows has picked the best driver for this. I am tearing my hair out !
Any ideas on how to sync htc hero running 1.5 cupcake with windows 7 ultimate ?
Regards
Which version of HTC Sync are you running?
Dear People,
I am a noob. A really big noob but I really want to have all the cool things that you guys have on the HTC Legend with 16GB SD. In my opinion is the HTC Legend sometimes a bit slow.
I am running: Android 2.2 and everything is stock, I never changed a thing. I saw some cool stuff on Youtube and I read a lot of interesting information about 'Custom Roms'.
My question / problem:
I want a fast cool Legend Rom which one the GPS, WIFI and Camera all the otherthings are working with no problems. Which Custom Rom is the best ROM for me?
I hope to read answers. I am very sorry for my dumb question and my bad English.
Regards,
Eer
Dear Noobfromthelegends,
first of all, if you want to try out custom roms, you need to root your Legend.
The easiest and safest way to do so is to follow the HTC guide [1] (please note that your warranty will be affected even if it is an "official" process).
Steps to follow had been explained in many threads, please take time to read a couple of solved similar threads; it'll spare you some time.
As you must have seen, there are a lot of ROMs out there, though a lot of them shared common basis. I'm afraid I can't help you on the best and faster one, I have only tested stock ROM and CyanogenMod (CM) ones. CM 7.1 (the latest stable release AFAIK, based on Android 2.3.7) is great but my Legend is sometimes laggy (actually a bit too often compared to newer phones).
Some people are trying hard to port Android 4 (Ice Cream Sandwich, ICS) on our beloved Legend. One major feature of ICS is the hardware-acceleration, which means that not only the CPU is used to compute (effects and some stuff) but available DSPs too. These ROMs are currently in beta stages, but users seems to be really happy with them (major drawback is not fully working camera ATM and some minor bugs, but like I said it is beta software).
(I am of course thinking of zeubea and its CM9 adaptation [2])
PS: remember to make nandroid backups (that is, make a backup of the whole system in case you did something wrong) and keep them safe, at least one which is okay (ie. a working copy on your computer). You can go back in time with complete backups, quiet useful if you want to try some MODs.
1: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562595
edit: it seems that updating your hboot version (ie. following the HTC guide to root your phone by updating your hboot) may be problematic if you want S-OFF. Please look for it on the forum if you care about it.
Thank you very much for your reply.
If I want S-Off has that something to do with: 'Root your Legend'?
Thank you for your back-up tip. But how do I back up my Legend? Because I am afraid that I don't back-up correct.
Hope to hear from you or the other forum members soon.
PS: Tomorrow I am going to 'Root' my Legend and I let it you hear.
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Thank you very much for your reply.
If I want S-Off has that something to do with: 'Root your Legend'?
Thank you for your back-up tip. But how do I back up my Legend? Because I am afraid that I don't back-up correct.
Hope to hear from you or the other forum members soon.
PS: Tomorrow I am going to 'Root' my Legend and I let it you hear.
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- You're welcome, that's the purpose of this forum
- it seems that S-Off give you full access to your NAND flash.
I don't know a lot of things about it, only read some posts. So far, I didn't feel the need to do it, I can use custom ROMs, custom splash screens, etc.
I repeat, I don't know **** about this. Just that I didn't need it for the past two years with my Legend (rooted for more than 18 months).
I read that it has something to do with your hboot, and as I told you to follow the HTC guide to root your legend, yes it has something to do with it because it seems that you can't S-Off easily with a hboot version > 1.00.
- you can backup your device when you are in recovery
Please read guides about rooting your Legend, you will learn about the ClockWorkMod, the recovery, fastboot and last but not least ROM Manager.
If you are not comfortable with all these terms, you may end up not understanding at all what you are doing or done and being stuck with a (semi-)bricked phone is probably not what you want. Just don't rush for it.
If you want to update your hboot to root your Legend, have a look at BlaY0's post [1] too.
Feel free to read other member's questions and problems, they certainly have been solved. Reading others' mistakes could make you avoid them.
PS: if you want to thank me, press the "Thanks" button below my post
1: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22613990&postcount=62
edit: didn't see that you used the button already
@bibzor great stuff!
My 2c, Rom to try? OK just thinking here, maybe as a beginner to custom roms start with blay0s froyo, it will be more familiar to you coming from stock froyo, but its also got all the bells n whistles that make rooting worth it ie. ext partition support for more app space, over/under clock and more I've forgotten about just now.
Go here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866849
Or if that's too boring for you and want excitement just start with zeubeas ics , that'll get your juices flowing, just remember its still a w.i.p. so theres still a few bugs and not everything is working 100% yet, but is still good enough for me to use as a "daily".
The other option I like personally is ogo2's gingerbread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987251
Then there's the cyanogenmod & its variants like legendary legends fuse.
Their all good! :thumbup:
Its a good idea to try and read the whole thread of the custom rom you want to flash for hints tips and other stuff before flashing too.
Welcome to a new world of flashing
sent from my legend, currently using zeubea ics beta0
Thank you both very much for your reactions.
I Googled a lot of Nanobackup but I first want to root my systeem. I saw on the HTC DEV site the Unlock Bootloader but first I have to update the Rom / Ruu but there isnt a Dutch Carrier. I come from the Netherlands.
What do I have to do?
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Thank you both very much for your reactions.
I Googled a lot of Nanobackup but I first want to root my systeem. I saw on the HTC DEV site the Unlock Bootloader but first I have to update the Rom / Ruu but there isnt a Dutch Carrier. I come from the Netherlands.
What do I have to do?
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Read BlaY0's post about rooting, I posted the link earlier. You don't need to update your ROM to follow the HTC dev guide.
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Dear People,
My question / problem:
I want a fast cool Legend Rom which one the GPS, WIFI and Camera all the otherthings are working with no problems. Which Custom Rom is the best ROM for me?
Regards,
Eer
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For couple of days i tryed some ROMs :
Cyanogenmod 7.1 -faster and stable, the phone was running perfectly, except the weak WIFI connection (maybe the problem was in my router) .
ExtremeLegendFuse 2 (best choice for me)- the phone just was flying - much more faster than the Stock ROM , GPS and WIFI worked perfect.
Now i use Cuanogenmod 7.2 - and will stay with it for future, Like advantages I can notice - lower baterry consumation and a little bit more free available RAM, in comparison with, CM7.1 / ExtremeLegendFuse 2 , on CM7.2 i neved used GPS and have not impression about the GPS ( befor i tryed to drive with GPS and after that i hate it ), everything else works perfct, the ROM is much more faster than the stock 2.2 Froyo ,but this ROM feels a little bit slower in comparison with ExtremeLegendFuse 2 ;
If you want a "fast and cool ROM " I recommend ExtremeLegendFuse 2;
If you use your phone for work and your phone is always in your hands - use Cuanogenmod 7.2
bibzor said:
Read BlaY0's post about rooting, I posted the link earlier. You don't need to update your ROM to follow the HTC dev guide.
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Thank you Bibzor but ....sorry for so much questions.
Today I wipeout everything on my phone due:
- Turn phone off, volume down 1 x On / Off Button and then Clear Storage.
- Then I did a format of my 16GB Micro SD.
So everything is clean now and I really want to do a full back up of my original Dutch ROM. If I understand it right I have to do a NANDROID for a complete back up of my orignal Dutch ROM so I can always go back to the orignal software?
BlaYo post about rooting starts with:
'' 1. Do a nandroid (at least data partition). ''
But how do I do a NANDROID with a Legend that isn't rooted? Can I start with point 2 from BlaYo post about rooting?
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Thank you Bibzor but ....sorry for so much questions.
Today I wipeout everything on my phone due:
- Turn phone off, volume down 1 x On / Off Button and then Clear Storage.
- Then I did a format of my 16GB Micro SD.
So everything is clean now and I really want to do a full back up of my original Dutch ROM. If I understand it right I have to do a NANDROID for a complete back up of my orignal Dutch ROM so I can always go back to the orignal software?
BlaYo post about rooting starts with:
'' 1. Do a nandroid (at least data partition). ''
But how do I do a NANDROID with a Legend that isn't rooted? Can I start with point 2 from BlaYo post about rooting?
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Use titanium backup from Google play.
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
Here Am I again. Sorry for my questions I hope that I get one more reaction.
I have have successfully unlocked my bootloader with the HTC DEV method.
But I still don't have ROOT acces. I have installed ROM Manager to do a full back-up of my ROM but it says: 'You don't have ROOT acces'.
I tought that when I unlock the bootloader with the HTC DEV method that I have ROOT acces on my HTC Legend.
What am I doing wrong?
Please help!
NoobfromtheLegends said:
Here Am I again. Sorry for my questions I hope that I get one more reaction.
I have have successfully unlocked my bootloader with the HTC DEV method.
But I still don't have ROOT acces. I have installed ROM Manager to do a full back-up of my ROM but it says: 'You don't have ROOT acces'.
I tought that when I unlock the bootloader with the HTC DEV method that I have ROOT acces on my HTC Legend.
What am I doing wrong?
Please help!
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After unlocking boot loader, use HTC supertools (which can be downloaded in this forum or just Google it) and it should be rooted.
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
Download supertools from link below
do it with htc supertool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431398
it worked for me after i unlocked my legend via htc dev
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
YEAH BIG THANKS! YEEEEAAAAAH! HTCSupertools were very easy! Thank you soooooooooooo much! Really, really, really thanks!
But..I want to back up my original Dutch 2.2 ROM. When I touch in Rom Manager:
Back up ROM, my Legend restarts and I get a phone with a red triangle.
When I push: Volume UP and then the On/Off button I get:
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command.
I tried everything: Formatting SD card and much more.
Why is a backing up of my original ROM so difficult?
P.s. I also installed: Clockwork Recovery.
Similar Problem.
Hi Folks,
The above is similar to my problem.... I am an absolute total NOOB!! Rooted my legend thanks to these forums just yesterday and have SuperUser, ROM Manager & ROM Toolbox installed and can see the root and access files so most things seem to work..... BUT.....
Every time I try to update the ROM or partition the SD card I get the dreaded red triangle/exclamation mark and have to remove the battery to allow the phone to reboot into the dreaded Vodafone ROM.
My startup shows "UNLOCKED" S-on but according to other threads here that is not a problem as unlocked automatically means S-off.
Any ideas or threads to read would be much appreciated thank you as I want to try Gingerbread before I risk ICS
Thank you
Hi guys,
if you're experiencing the red triangle horror, don't be afraid it's quite common.
This triangle shows up when you try to reboot in recovery mod but the recovery image couldn't be loaded.
The easiest way is to use ROM Manager to update your recovery to the latest available and then press "reboot in recovery".
Otherwise, you can try to flash recovery image by hand.
Download the latest recovery image [1] and follow the method listed there which is :
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-legend.img
EDIT: of course these two commands are to be executed in a shell command when your Legend is connected to your computer and the image file is in the current directory, otherwise put its path.
1: from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290841
bibzor said:
Hi guys,
if you're experiencing the red triangle horror, don't be afraid it's quite common.
This triangle shows up when you try to reboot in recovery mod but the recovery image couldn't be loaded.
The easiest way is to use ROM Manager to update your recovery to the latest available and then press "reboot in recovery".
Otherwise, you can try to flash recovery image by hand.
Download the latest recovery image [1] and follow the method listed there which is :
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.0-legend.img
EDIT: of course these two commands are to be executed in a shell command when your Legend is connected to your computer and the image file is in the current directory, otherwise put its path.
1: from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290841
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I LOVE YOU! I did it and I did a flash image recovery by hand. Now I am going to back up my ROM!
Rexjarvis, if you don't know what to do with the command you have to do:
when the device is switched off, hold the volume down & power button in order for the phone to boot into the bootloader & connect the phone to the pc. You see now: ''Fastboot usb''.
Download the recovery_legend_5.0.2.8.img file and put it in the same folder on your pc as fastboot.exe & adb. then open the commandline on the pc, navigate to the folder that contains the fastboot.exe. You know: CMD and then C:\Android for example. Then you have to do the two commands from Bibzor:
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery recovery_legend_5.0.2.8.img
NoobfromtheLegends said:
I LOVE YOU!
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Then you have to do the two commands from Bibzor:
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well ..
By the way, I just copied the commands from the thread I linked
NoobfromtheLegends said:
YEAH BIG THANKS! YEEEEAAAAAH! HTCSupertools were very easy! Thank you soooooooooooo much! Really, really, really thanks!
But..I want to back up my original Dutch 2.2 ROM. When I touch in Rom Manager:
Back up ROM, my Legend restarts and I get a phone with a red triangle.
When I push: Volume UP and then the On/Off button I get:
E: Can't open /cache/recovery/command.
I tried everything: Formatting SD card and much more.
Why is a backing up of my original ROM so difficult?
P.s. I also installed: Clockwork Recovery.
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No problems mate, glad to help
Sent from my Legend using xda premium
I have been trying to flash with ROM Manager but have permanent verification errors. Now I will try via adb as above. THANK YOU - Wish me luck
No joy... All I get is the same error E:Can't open.......... etc followed by E:Singanture verification error....
Can I not force an S-Off?
I went through the S-OFF, etc process from scratch last weekend (soup to nuts from stock GB), and decided to share my notes.
There is no original information posted here, just a re-organized walkthrough to reference & accommodate what's already out there.
Hopefully a few find it helpful (I know I woulda )
Disclaimer:
this is a Windows-centric walkthrough, that assumes (in parts) that this isn't your first day at the rodeo. Never be scared to use Google or the IRC chat (sorry dsb9938 for the newb flood :laugh
This walkthrough is just an end to a means. You'll find people mention different ways they've accomplish the full process - this post is just a historical document on how I accomplished the same goal.
My methods were definitely successful, though my technique was admittedly ghetto at times. If any uber-pro's notice areas where this is the case, feel free to chime in & i'll update that chunk with credit to you.
I take no responsibility for anything you were inspired to do as a result of reading this post... unless it made you happy, I will take credit for that
The full process in a chronological nutshell:
HTC Unlock
Flash recovery
Root
Juopunutbear S-OFF
Flash latest firmware
Re-flash recovery
Flash ROM
Things to do beforehand:
disable fast boot // settings > power > uncheck
-- this is a universal truth throughout this process, if you have problems booting into the bootloader, check into this.
enable USB debugging - settings > applications > development > check USB debugging
-- this is another universal truth, if something isn't able to communicate with your device, check into this
verify your bootloader / system status
-- power down
-- hold down power & vol- at the same time while booting up
-- it should say Locked & S-ON at the top
backup SD card
backup anything on the internal storage that you care about
*Optional - wipe SD card
*Optional - install an MD5 checker (if you don't already have one)
-- Windows: http://download.cnet.com/MD5-Checker/3000-2092_4-10410639.html?tag=mncol;1
-- Android (for later): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fab.md5
BE PATIENT. seriously. I know you want to get back to MW3, but this can take a while. Your device will go through several lengthy processes. If something looks unresponsive and it starts to scare you, just wait it out for a few minutes before going willy nilly with the power button. At times, you will end up having to manually power on again, but give it time before getting antsy. If your ADD is driving you crazy, just bite your lip and power through it.
Steps 1, 2, & 3)
Unlock, Recovery, & Root:
go to htc dev
sign up / confirm from email / log in
install the stuff they tell you to, listed on the right of the page
Install / use the Rezound All-In-One Toolkit on your PC to accomplish the rest
for recovery, I chose Amon RA
The more you know ✩....
-- a dude doing recovery the manual way - http://youtu.be/AvSeLmXSjVI
-- the recovery is accessed through the bootloader menu
Step 4)
S-OFF:
Charge battery full
Make sure fast boot is still off
Make sure USB debugging is enabled
Download the latest juopunutbear for rezound here (Windows, Latest ICS)
*Optional - Verify the MD5
Follow juopunutbear instructions - here, then here
*Optional - Do a backup via recovery
The more you know ✩....
-- controlbear was randomly having a hard time seeing my device, I solved this by:
---- closing controlbear command prompt
---- toggling on HTC Sync as the USB connection type (on the rezound)
---- this caused the device to be recognized differently in windows & installed a driver
---- I started controlbear again, but it hung at "Searching for device"
---- I closed it & ran it again
---- then it worked
-- for the rooting part of this, when it boots you into recovery, check both SD card locations for SuperSU.zip
-- this process froze on me many times, closing and restarting controlbear seemed to fix it
---- seriously did this at least 10 times - it happened randomly at seemingly scary places. (each time getting me further than the last)
-- juopunutbear hboot? - I said yes
-- SD card issues? do a factory reset.
-- Still have SD card issues? you just need to update the firmware, move along.
-- USB debugging path has changed in ICS, you can enable it here: settings > developer options > check USB debugging
-- ATTENTION: Not getting any reception/ signal? put the case back on, broseph
more info:
-- S-off is Official!!! With Instructions...
-- S-OFF FAQ
Step 5)
Latest firmware:
Download the latest RUU (3.14.605.10 as of July 16) to update the firmware to ICS - http://bit.ly/KlRfKZ
-- *Optional - Verify MD5
Rename the RUU to "PH98IMG.zip"
Copy the renamed update to the root of your external SD Card.
Power down / reboot into bootloader / wait 5-10 minutes for it to finish
Step 6)
Fastboot flash recovery:
After s-off and firmware update, you need to re-flash recovery via fastboot, this process is described here -- # < anybody have a link? #
-- *Optional - Do a backup via recovery
The more you know ✩....
-- flashing recovery via fastboot is only necessary if you want to keep the top of the bootloader reading as "Locked" (even though it's already S-OFF'd).
-- I did not want this, (mine reads "Unlocked") so if you don't want that, then just re-unlock using the same method as you did the first time, and then re-flash recovery the same way again.
REPEAT: Not getting a reception/ signal? put the case back on.
Step 7)
ROM
Download ROM of your choice (I used Nils' Business ICS, Sense 4.0, v1.2)
-- *Optional - Verify MD5
Copy the zip to the root of your external SD Card.
Follow the ROM installation instructions (Wipe, etc) & install via recovery
-- *Optional - Do a backup via recovery
Hooray!
-- credit where it's due & thanks to all who came before me.
i came here because the title said BOWELS! 0.o
^lol. Just one thing... You did the s-off from GB before you updated the firmware.... So you should have chosen the GB ControlBear. Also I would recommend that you not tell them to use a toolkit. Personally I think you should always fully set up adb and fastboot. That makes it easier if you have problems later. But that's just me
This is a great guide tho. Very informative
Wrote up a similar guide last week at TeamBAMF's site:
http://www.teambamf.net/topic/4122-generic-guide-to-root-and-install-roms-on-the-rezound/
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^lol. Just one thing... You did the s-off from GB before you updated the firmware.... So you should have chosen the GB ControlBear. Also I would recommend that you not tell them to use a toolkit. Personally I think you should always fully set up adb and fastboot. That makes it easier if you have problems later. But that's just me
This is a great guide tho. Very informative
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ha, might have been the reason controlbear failed so many times (still ended up working though).
As far as ADB, I hear ya, I just felt that most folk have little or no idea what they are doing and just want to get to the next step - so I tried to keep it simple where I could.
dustintheweb said:
As far as ADB, I hear ya, I just felt that most folk have little or no idea what they are doing and just want to get to the next step - so I tried to keep it simple where I could.
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Yeah makes sense.
dustintheweb said:
ha, might have been the reason controlbear failed so many times (still ended up working though).
As far as ADB, I hear ya, I just felt that most folk have little or no idea what they are doing and just want to get to the next step - so I tried to keep it simple where I could.
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Anyone doing s-off (the one operation that CAN brick our phones), should know EXACTLY what they are doing. If you are doing this, there is no reason not to have complete knowledge of the process..
Divine_Madcat said:
Anyone doing s-off (the one operation that CAN brick our phones), should know EXACTLY what they are doing. If you are doing this, there is no reason not to have complete knowledge of the process..
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Just to add on to that, a noob who can't use adb and fastboot fully probably has no need for s-off
So no fast boot Ehhh?
I just checked, mine is on, so is that why my 8 hours of s-off attempts failed?
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Divine_Madcat said:
Anyone doing s-off (the one operation that CAN brick our phones), should know EXACTLY what they are doing. If you are doing this, there is no reason not to have complete knowledge of the process..
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meh, maybe i've just had good luck, but I've personally found over the years (and reiterated from others) that HTC phones are fairly hard to brick. I mean, yeah, people should read up on stuff and not be idiots when going down this road, but there's no reason to treat it as delicate of a process as some do.
I like to think of it more as training a dog, rather than walking on egg shells. Take your time, be patient, but don't forget to make it fun.
-- and if at any point you're unsure on how to do something, don't panic - just post your question in the forums or in the chat and be prepared to wait. Someone will help you eventually.
AshtonTS said:
^lol. Just one thing... You did the s-off from GB before you updated the firmware.... So you should have chosen the GB ControlBear. Also I would recommend that you not tell them to use a toolkit. Personally I think you should always fully set up adb and fastboot. That makes it easier if you have problems later. But that's just me
This is a great guide tho. Very informative
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First, this is exactly what I was looking for so thank you. I've read just about every post for unlocking and s-off, but I'm glad you put it all together!
Second, so step #5 should really be #4?
Third, flame me if you want, but I don't have the developer tools menu to enable USB debugging. Does that show after using unlocking via HTC dev?
Thanks again!
dustintheweb said:
meh, maybe i've just had good luck, but I've personally found over the years (and reiterated from others) that HTC phones are fairly hard to brick. I mean, yeah, people should read up on stuff and not be idiots when going down this road, but there's no reason to treat it as delicate of a process as some do.
I like to think of it more as training a dog, rather than walking on egg shells. Take your time, be patient, but don't forget to make it fun.
-- and if at any point you're unsure on how to do something, don't panic - just post your question in the forums or in the chat and be prepared to wait. Someone will help you eventually.
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This is how it should be but not all people think like that most just wanna put people on blast
Sent from my ADR6400L using xda app-developers app
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Second, so step #5 should really be #4?
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It worked for me, but AshtonTS says there is a better way. Search through the S-OFF FAQ thread (or similar) and see if you can get a consensus of what other people did.
BSquaredB2 said:
Third, flame me if you want, but I don't have the developer tools menu to enable USB debugging. Does that show after using unlocking via HTC dev?
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If you're on GB, go to settings > applications > development > check USB debugging
Sorry about that, I had the ICS path in the guide (now fixed).
Hey all, this is my virgin post, I'm as well a newbie at flashing stuff. The reason for posting this is just to share my experience so hopefully people won't encounter as much trouble as I just did.
First of all, of course you need to download the four required files.
SUPER WIPE - Android_Revolution_HD_Super_Wipe_Amaze_4G
The actual rom - Android_Revolution_HD-Amaze_4G_3.0.1.zip
The firmware - PH85IMG.zip
The radio - Radio_1.14.550L.17DC_30.78.550L.15.zip <------- unlike others, this one u actually need to unzip ^_^
Now that you have the files, let them sit tight on your desktop. You need to S-OFF your device. This basically means you are permitted to flash any rom you want after you are S-OFFed. For this, I think I did some crazy stuff I don't even understand.
I used controlbear's S-OFF method. He (or she) has got a website set up for this. For HTC Amazers, go here: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear-public-beta-0-1/instructions/htc-amaze/. Depending on your operating system and the version of your Amaze, you need to download the S-OFF tool. Since I am using Windows and was S-OFFing a 2.x Amaze, I had to download the Windows GB version of the tool. (WINDOWS GB MD5 sums are inside the zip file)
Follow controlbear's instructions carefully on his website, I give you two points of advice:
The insulated wire he talks about is basically a bronze/copper wire with plastic/rubber covering it. You need a slightly thicker wire and have the rubber on both ends of the wire removed with a knife or something so the copper inside is showing.
When you are "touching" the GND spot indicated on the diagram, obviously you need to have the back cover of your Amaze removed. So why not remove it first before starting the whole process as when your USB cable is attached to your phone you can't remove the back cover.
Controlbear is so right about something, that is you DO NEED SEVERAL tries before getting the timing right. So don't worry, give it a lot of tries.
Next you need to SuperCID your Amaze. Honestly, I have no idea what this does whatsoever. But luckily the process is simple and straight forward. Just follow instruction: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612475
Now here comes the flashing!
The rommer of android revolution said you need to flash 4EXT Touch Recovery. I thought every custom recovery would do the job. Anyway, just google 4EXTRecoveryUpdater.apk, or try to find it in google play. It's a lot easier to flash it while you still had the system installed.
Then you need to upgrade the firmware. Which has everything to do with the PH85IMG.zip.
Apparently, this isn't something you can flash through recovery. You need to place this file (in its zipped form) in the root of your SD card, and go to bootloader (the first menu right after you power+vol.down). It's gonna automatically detect it and ask you to update. power up = update, power down = abort. I accidentally clicked power down TWICE...
When you've finished updating your firmware, do a super wipe. This is done by going in to the custom recovery and install "Android_Revolution_HD_Super_Wipe_Amaze_4G.zip" from sd card.
The super wipe process is followed by another install from sd card. This time you install the ROM "Android_Revolution_HD-Amaze_4G_3.0.1.zip".
OK, the rommer did warn us about having to wait a while for the first boot. But I thought I somehow bricked my phone...
No, you do need to be patient about it. Let it load. When your Amaze is up, you need to follow the instruction and flash a radio file. THIS IS DONE ON YOUR COMPUTER. You don't need recovery mode for this one.
Last but not least, I've had some problem with enabling mobile data on my Amaze. Turns out I needed to add a APN for it. Google your carrier's APN setting, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE CORRECT!!!
Good luck flashers! Don't brick it!
icyyicee said:
Hey all, this is my virgin post, I'm as well a newbie at flashing stuff. The reason for posting this is just to share my experience so hopefully people won't encounter as much trouble as I just did.
First of all, of course you need to download the four required files.
SUPER WIPE - Android_Revolution_HD_Super_Wipe_Amaze_4G
The actual rom - Android_Revolution_HD-Amaze_4G_3.0.1.zip
The firmware - PH85IMG.zip
The radio - Radio_1.14.550L.17DC_30.78.550L.15.zip <------- unlike others, this one u actually need to unzip ^_^
Now that you have the files, let them sit tight on your desktop. You need to S-OFF your device. This basically means you are permitted to flash any rom you want after you are S-OFFed. For this, I think I did some crazy stuff I don't even understand.
I used controlbear's S-OFF method. He (or she) has got a website set up for this. For HTC Amazers, go here: http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear-public-beta-0-1/instructions/htc-amaze/. Depending on your operating system and the version of your Amaze, you need to download the S-OFF tool. Since I am using Windows and was S-OFFing a 2.x Amaze, I had to download the Windows GB version of the tool. (WINDOWS GB MD5 sums are inside the zip file)
Follow controlbear's instructions carefully on his website, I give you two points of advice:
The insulated wire he talks about is basically a bronze/copper wire with plastic/rubber covering it. You need a slightly thicker wire and have the rubber on both ends of the wire removed with a knife or something so the copper inside is showing.
When you are "touching" the GND spot indicated on the diagram, obviously you need to have the back cover of your Amaze removed. So why not remove it first before starting the whole process as when your USB cable is attached to your phone you can't remove the back cover.
Controlbear is so right about something, that is you DO NEED SEVERAL tries before getting the timing right. So don't worry, give it a lot of tries.
Next you need to SuperCID your Amaze. Honestly, I have no idea what this does whatsoever. But luckily the process is simple and straight forward. Just follow instruction: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612475
Now here comes the flashing!
The rommer of android revolution said you need to flash 4EXT Touch Recovery. I thought every custom recovery would do the job. Anyway, just google 4EXTRecoveryUpdater.apk, or try to find it in google play. It's a lot easier to flash it while you still had the system installed.
Then you need to upgrade the firmware. Which has everything to do with the PH85IMG.zip.
Apparently, this isn't something you can flash through recovery. You need to place this file (in its zipped form) in the root of your SD card, and go to bootloader (the first menu right after you power+vol.down). It's gonna automatically detect it and ask you to update. power up = update, power down = abort. I accidentally clicked power down TWICE...
When you've finished updating your firmware, do a super wipe. This is done by going in to the custom recovery and install "Android_Revolution_HD_Super_Wipe_Amaze_4G.zip" from sd card.
The super wipe process is followed by another install from sd card. This time you install the ROM "Android_Revolution_HD-Amaze_4G_3.0.1.zip".
OK, the rommer did warn us about having to wait a while for the first boot. But I thought I somehow bricked my phone...
No, you do need to be patient about it. Let it load. When your Amaze is up, you need to follow the instruction and flash a radio file. THIS IS DONE ON YOUR COMPUTER. You don't need recovery mode for this one.
Last but not least, I've had some problem with enabling mobile data on my Amaze. Turns out I needed to add a APN for it. Google your carrier's APN setting, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE CORRECT!!!
Good luck flashers! Don't brick it!
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hey thank you very much for the guide. Can you please put the download links? when I try to download the files from the Android Revolution thread it says File Not Found 404
This is a thread on how i rooted my device. I recently bought a refurb of this nice little tablet and navigated these threads. While the end result was what i wanted, a rooted device running an unsecured bootloader and the open source release was achieved. I did manage to brick myself in the process and come back from the ashes. So below are the steps and some links to what worked for me and will possibly work for you given youre runing the 3830 release with WIFI and no 3G.
NOTE: I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU TURN YOUR TABLET INTO A DOORSTOP, YOU ASSUME ALL RISK IF YOU CHOOSE TO PROCEED.
1. Visit opensource.dell.com, browse the repository for the Dell Venue 8. DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING, because why not.
2. go here, read everything and download the necessary packages for your system. Get your drivers installed, etc etc
3. Open the dell guide from Step 1 and follow it for installing the unlocked bootloader and unlocked OS onto your tablet. Reboot, make sure you dont have a paperweight. If you do, keep reading the dell guide as it has a nice unbricking section to follow
4. Once you are up and running kick off mybatch from Step 2 again and this time use the option to root your device. Let it works its magic as described in the thread.
5. Reboot for good measure
6. Kick back and you should now have root access.
7. Wanna install CWM dont you? yes you do so go here follow Vampirefos nice guide and download the CWM image and flash it. Test it and you should be good to go
Notes: My tablet shipped with Stock 4.2.2 JBS so if you have the same it should keep you from avoiding the few pitfalls there are
Dell has provided the links and documentation on compiling the kernel and getting the AOKP sources in their guide as well. If i get some free time or if anyone is so inclined to continue where other devs have left off we may be able to get rid of the stock OS in favor of a lighter one.
Hello, great guide I just got this tablet so I will be using it shortly. I am assuming that step 3 will wipe the device, correct? Also is the Dell unlocked OS Kitkat 4.4.2? Or would you later use CWM to flash a 4.4.2 ROM? I don't see many ROMs available for this tablet which I'm assuming is due to the Intel processor. I'm fine with AOSP and Xposed Framework as that can add nice features to any ROM.
Hello all, this is the tab I have and I have been hoping to find a way to root it without a PC. I am wondering how big a risk it would be to flash the dev edition file without a PC handy? According to these instructions step one is making sure adb see's your tab but then you unplug it and do not need a PC for the rest of the process (if you just unzip the file to sd card on tablet itself) So what's the purpose of making sure adb see's it? Is it REQUIRED to flash dev file or is it just to repair a soft brick for example? Any reason I can't skip this step and just unzip the package and flash the file?
pennywisdom said:
Hello, great guide I just got this tablet so I will be using it shortly. I am assuming that step 3 will wipe the device, correct? Also is the Dell unlocked OS Kitkat 4.4.2? Or would you later use CWM to flash a 4.4.2 ROM? I don't see many ROMs available for this tablet which I'm assuming is due to the Intel processor. I'm fine with AOSP and Xposed Framework as that can add nice features to any ROM.
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Step 3 may or may not wipe your data settings, i had a blank JB install and just rooted out of the box so cant say yes or no on that one. No not many ROMS at all. Great little tablet though i have had great battery life and its been pretty stable on the dev edition. only had one random reboot.
Geeker -> you could technically get away with doing it without a PC but then again i always like to have it connected in case anything goes wrong. I would highly reccommend making sure you can connect with ADB so if anything goes sidways after rooting and flashing you can at least get into fastboot and flash the jb image from the mybatch install instructions.
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Step 3 may or may not wipe your data settings, i had a blank JB install and just rooted out of the box so cant say yes or no on that one. No not many ROMS at all. Great little tablet though i have had great battery life and its been pretty stable on the dev edition. only had one random reboot.
Geeker -> you could technically get away with doing it without a PC but then again i always like to have it connected in case anything goes wrong. I would highly reccommend making sure you can connect with ADB so if anything goes sidways after rooting and flashing you can at least get into fastboot and flash the jb image from the mybatch install instructions.
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Ok cool, thanks for the info! I have a backup tablet is why I am considering the risk. Now does this mean that if something did go wrong with flashing the dev image that I could possibly be perma-bricked if adb will not connect? Or would I still be able to find a PC, install relavent drivers and get things going again? Also I don't think I have seen confirmation anywhere if it is OK to use dev edition if you are upgraded to 4.4.2 or not, anyone know for sure? Instructions doesn't say anything about being upgraded or not.
Im always of the opinion i want to connect and make sure i can before i start tinkering with my droids. technically you could even connect during a softbrick following the instructions but it would just be a little more work. I cant say if the downgrade will have any issues as i started at JB. As long as the bootloader is not upgraded and is the same version as JB then it should downgrade as long as you are rooted.
roadrage777 said:
Im always of the opinion i want to connect and make sure i can before i start tinkering with my droids. technically you could even connect during a softbrick following the instructions but it would just be a little more work. I cant say if the downgrade will have any issues as i started at JB. As long as the bootloader is not upgraded and is the same version as JB then it should downgrade as long as you are rooted.
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Well, trying to get root so I am not rooted now if that is what you mean. As far as the bootloader it is not something I have manually upgraded but IDK if the OTA updates would change that or not. OTA upgrade out of the box to 4.4.2 is all that has been done to it. Knowing it can still be saved im the event something DID go wrong with the flash makes me wanna go ahead and attempt it, I guess my only concern now is with the dev package downgrading the tab. I reckon I should try to find out if anyone else on 4.4.2 successfully did the dev edition flash without any other tricks.
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Ok, I just seen the rest of the instructions AFTER the part explaining how to fix brick. Guess I should have read farther but I was under the impression simply flashing "venue8_version-1.22-ota-signed_full_rooted.zip" would give me a rooted tablet, so this is not the case huh? I would still have to unlock the bootloader and flash the other images from a pc?