Petition? - Motorola Photon 4G

I know this sounds dumb but some say that this phone is set for failure due to it not having a unlock bootloader well what if we start a petition and let Motorola know what we want?
I'm just saying this because I see some people say is development going to pick up or not or some say well this other phone is better because now it's unlocked ...
With that said in a short time I have come to realize that it takes time and well I remember that a petition worked for another phone.
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The phone has been out for less than two weeks and people are already acting like the phone is headed towards failure because of the bootloader and a couple of minor issues that Motorola is working on.
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The phone has been out for less than two weeks and people are already acting like the phone is headed towards failure because of the bootloader and a couple of minor issues that Motorola is working on.
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Yea I agree with you.
And that's why instead of seeing more people complaining about it then how bout the try to do something about it and well a petition was my suggestion.
And like I said I read a article in engadget were owners of this one phone all made a petition and the manufacturer responded to them.
I want to say it was for the Motorola X... But not sure...
And while on the topic anyone know how to start a cyber petition?
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Some reading for thought.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
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Some reading for thought.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
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Ok so yea we may just be a small fish is the ocean that's the web but hey it worked for some.
BTW found part 2 of the article I was talking about and it was for a Motorola but they didn't exactly unlocked the boot loader in the end.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...e-android-phones/&category=classic&postPage=1
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I think that as processing power and overall I/O performance continues to increase with smartphones, the hypervisor idea that VMware is developing has the potential to be a game changer. I've been using VMware in some form since the early stages and at first it was limited by the current hardware technology at that time. As hardware specifications got better, so did the product. Now I couldn't imagine not having it in my data center. With a platform like this on a smartphone it would do several things. It would allow someone to easily run their own custom OS without modifying the "factory install " but more importantly it could provide one standardized hardware platform no matter what the underlying hardware configuration was. I would love to be able to develop one ROM that would run on 10 different devices without any additional modifications needed. That is my perfect world and with VMware and the performance potential of the dual core processors I think you are going to be seeing some real game changing technology over the next few years.
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flash_c4 said:
Some reading for thought.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
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While that is a good read, I do believe the online/social blitz petitions was quite helpful in regards to HTC to unlocing their bootloader, or at least in them responding to the development community and creating that HTC Dev site that would facilitate those wanted to unlock their devices.
Even though Motorola is not HTC, I do hope that Moto does listen and make it happen.
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Petition for Motorola to unlock bootloader- created Mar'11- so far 10,000+ signatures.
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[Q] A Glimpse of Hope?

Well as many of you guys know, the DROID3 is about to be released and I have been thinking...
The DROID2 came out roughly the same time as the DROIDX. Both phones use the same exploit to get into custom recovery to allow custom ROMs, etc.That being said, do you think the release of the DROID3 would be able to aid in the development of the X2?
I haven't done too much research on the subject yet but I think if devs get a hand on both phones, work could be sped up a bit.
Only a thought.
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Well... since moto seems to be following HTC's open loader cue you might get lucky! Then again it's not the tegra set like the X2 and Atrix so it might have a completely different loader by default.
I say X2 if you want the graphics power since I think it's better atm and development should begin soon.
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Plus the Droid 3 uses 2.3 while DroidX2 uses 2.2.
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How many of you guys came from the original X? I had/have a issue with my current X and I've been told to probably expect the X2 if I get a replacement. I guess I'm asking is it that bad? Should I wait until I can afford a new phone out of contract?
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Zaf9670 said:
Well... since moto seems to be following HTC's open loader cue you might get lucky! Then again it's not the tegra set like the X2 and Atrix so it might have a completely different loader by default.
I say X2 if you want the graphics power since I think it's better atm and development should begin soon.
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It is tegra set
Droid 3 is TI not Tegra.

Can't receive GB update. Help!!

For whatever reason, I'm not getting the update. I going to settings -> software update -> check new and absolutely nothing. I've never rooted my phone neither and its currently running stock froyo. Any suggestions?
Forgot to say I've tried rebooting and checking for the update MULTIPLE times
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jumpman1229 said:
For whatever reason, I'm not getting the update. I going to settings -> software update -> check new and absolutely nothing. I've never rooted my phone neither and its currently running stock froyo. Any suggestions?
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I would assume you have to wait for the Push to your phone.
Well with the update a couple of months ago I was able to go in through settings and receive it from there. This is kind of frustrating!
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jumpman1229 said:
For whatever reason, I'm not getting the update. I going to settings -> software update -> check new and absolutely nothing. I've never rooted my phone neither and its currently running stock froyo. Any suggestions?
Forgot to say I've tried rebooting and checking for the update MULTIPLE times
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They only send out so many every day. You might not get it until next week depending on where you live.
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jbh00jh said:
They only send out so many every day. You might not get it until next week depending on where you live.
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Wow! That's lame.
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jumpman1229 said:
Wow! That's lame.
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HA!!! They suspended the update!!!
loonatik78 said:
HA!!! They suspended the update!!!
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Lol your lying
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Lol your lying
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http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/05/04/htc-thunderbolt-update-delayed-by-verizon/
No.... I'm not.
loonatik78 said:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/05/04/htc-thunderbolt-update-delayed-by-verizon/
No.... I'm not.
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It's true but that's the wrong article. This article is from May.
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lrs421 said:
It's true but that's the wrong article. This article is from May.
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opps.... my bad. It's posted in it's own thread though.
They stopped it to fix the voice mail bug.
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UGGH! They tried to rush and meet the deadline rather than release something stable. This is some bull****, I can't believe all this crap
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jumpman1229 said:
UGGH! They tried to rush and meet the deadline rather than release something stable. This is some bull****, I can't believe all this crap
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That's basically how I feel. But this goes to show why the majority of us run custom ROMs. We don't have to deal with any of this "crap."
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jumpman1229 said:
UGGH! They tried to rush and meet the deadline rather than release something stable. This is some bull****, I can't believe all this crap
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Am I the only one that didn't get the memo with the deadline on it?
Verizon or HTC (dont remember which) around the beginning of the month said the Droid Inc and the Tbolt will be getting GB OTAs by the end of September.
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Just seems like its a constant HTC problem, I think this is the last time I will purchase an HTC product
JBO1018 said:
Verizon or HTC (dont remember which) around the beginning of the month said the Droid Inc and the Tbolt will be getting GB OTAs by the end of September.
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In a vague twitter post? I'm less than impressed with what passes for a reliable source these days. Some, including myself, would laugh at an internet rumor mill as the source of any information. No matter who authored it.
jumpman1229 said:
UGGH! They tried to rush and meet the deadline rather than release something stable. This is some bull****, I can't believe all this crap
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Actually, the VM notification bug has already been fixed as long as you have S-OFF thanks to rootzwiki. Let's see how long it takes them to integrate that fix, assuming they go that route. In other words, if you are using the rooted MR3 OTA then you are good to go. The fix also works on other GB roms as well and I believe Bamf already includes it.
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In a vague twitter post? I'm less than impressed with what passes for a reliable source these days. Some, including myself, would laugh at an internet rumor mill as the source of any information. No matter who authored it.
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Eh, I didn't really word that right. I just meant that is where people are getting that info. It most likely was a Twitter post or something, but probably from the VZW support account. (which still doesn't hold much weight) In any case I fully agree that putting your faith in internet rumors is not the best plan.
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JBO1018 said:
Eh, I didn't really word that right. I just meant that is where people are getting that info. It most likely was a Twitter post or something, but probably from the VZW support account. (which still doesn't hold much weight) In any case I fully agree that putting your faith in internet rumors is not the best plan.
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All good. I just like to sort out the entitlement-minded barking moonbats that get panties in a wad when something doesn't descend from on high according to the gospel words of..... the internet rumor mill! They kinda drive me nuts.

[Q] Does Verizon care if you root?

At some point this summer I plan on buying a new phone, likely an iPhone. My Samsung is currently running Cyanogenmod and the UI blatantly looks much different than a stock phone.
I'm guessing the answer to all this is they won't care, but if you bring in your rooted/customized phone and the people at Verizon are transferring data or anything from that phone to a new phone or otherwise messing with your rooted phone that works fine, do they care if they notice your phone is rooted? Does it violate any terms relating to your overall contract, or does anyone have any experience with them giving you a lecture about not doing that?
I'm not sure if we are violating our contracts... but I can tell you that the last time I was in my local Verizon store, 3 out of the 4 employees I talked to were running rooted phones. If you are nervous, just Odin back to stock before you go in.
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it's in no way a violation of the contract. Android is all open source so you can do what you want. Most people think it's pretty cool if you have a rooted/rommed phone, although I'm sure a few Verizon people frown upon it. If you bought the phone it's yours, you can do what you want lol
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schu9120 said:
I'm not sure if we are violating our contracts... but I can tell you that the last time I was in my local Verizon store, 3 out of the 4 employees I talked to were running rooted phones. If you are nervous, just Odin back to stock before you go in.
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^ this. I wouldn't be worried and I'd even be surprised if they gave you a dumbfounded look when you said you were; it's no biggie. And yeah, just flash back to stock if anything beforehand.
kadin.zimmerman said:
it's in no way a violation of the contract. Android is all open source so you can do what you want. Most people think it's pretty cool if you have a rooted/rommed phone, although I'm sure a few Verizon people frown upon it. If you bought the phone it's yours, you can do what you want lol
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You may not be doing anything legally askew, but Verizon is under no obligation to provide any support whatsoever if the phone isn't running the carrier software.
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sarkozy said:
You may not be doing anything legally askew, but Verizon is under no obligation to provide any support whatsoever if the phone isn't running the carrier software.
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They wouldn't be supporting it. They'd be transferring his account to a new phone, which means he's going to give them money which they usually like. If he was coming in for a repair then they wouldn't. You won't have any problem.
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He was asking if he'd have any trouble with them transferring data like contacts to a new device. If the new device is an android, pretty much everything including contacts is backed up on Google servers so no problem, but if he gets an iPhone like he mentioned, I'm not sure how they would transfer contact data. But that's something it might be helpful to be back on the stock software for. Just my two cents, like I said I don't know how that data transfer between a fascinate and iOS device would go.
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He was asking if he'd have any trouble with them transferring data like contacts to a new device. If the new device is an android, pretty much everything including contacts is backed up on Google servers so no problem, but if he gets an iPhone like he mentioned, I'm not sure how they would transfer contact data. But that's something it might be helpful to be back on the stock software for. Just my two cents, like I said I don't know how that data transfer between a fascinate and iOS device would go.
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They would probably use the Verizon backup app.
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They would probably use the Verizon backup app.
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This. I don't understand why verizon intervention is necessary here. Install the app and do it yourself without a trip to the store. It'd take all of 2 minutes to accomplish?
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neh4pres said:
They would probably use the Verizon backup app.
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That's what I thought too, but didn't know if that app comes on iPhones. I thought they came free of any carrier software, which is something I've gotta give Apple credit for. Although knowing how simple they make iOS devices for technologically unsavvy people, I've gotta think there's a pretty simple way to get your contacts.
I'm not really sure what you'd need Verizon for when getting a new device either, the only thing I can think of is getting your sim card for an LTE device.

Google should take the gloves off and merge Android into Motorola Mobility...see this

I am not the only one who thinks that Google should merge android into moto...
http://www.fastcompany.com/3001760/what-if-google-allowed-android-and-motorola-share-secrets
You do understand that if android goes that way you can kiss your custom ROMs goodbye. Not only that but also your options for android devices would shrink because the open handset alliance would quickly fall apart. Why not just buy an apple if you want a closed off system? These thoughts show exactly how you do not understand what open source is and why Google is doing what its doing.
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Maximinus I said:
You do understand that if android goes that way you can kiss your custom ROMs goodbye. Not only that but also your options for android devices would shrink because the open handset alliance would quickly fall apart. Why not just buy an apple if you want a closed off system? These thoughts show exactly how you do not understand what open source is and why Google is doing what its doing.
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Sounds fine to me. I would give up custom roms...
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Well then it sounds like you'd enjoy an iPhone. Why would you want Android like that? I'm interested to hear your response on this question.
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Maximinus I said:
Well then it sounds like you'd enjoy an iPhone. Why would you want Android like that? I'm interested to hear your response on this question.
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Faster updates and all. We can then all have a uniform android experience and not this hap hazard one we now have. Just to turn on wifi is different in sense and touchwiz.... they should compete on quality and look of the phone and not software as the hardware and software should all be the same. And i would never buy a iphone no widgets.
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rezoundness said:
Faster updates and all. We can then all have a uniform android experience and not this hap hazard one we now have. Just to turn on wifi is different in sense and touchwiz.... they should compete on quality and look of the phone and not software as the hardware and software should all be the same. And i would never buy a iphone no widgets.
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Why does this have to be so either/or? Samsung has no intention of suckling from the android teet forever--samba/tizen? Its open now, but won't stay open forever---look at how reluctant they are to release their hardware libraries... hundreds of thousands of people 'superbricked' their (insert qualifying samsung device here)--and though a simple fix would have been to release their emmc firmware to the xda community, and we'd all have functioning (instead of limping) quality samsung mobile warez....i', calling events like the MMC_CAP_ERASE bug instancas of 'planned hyper-obsolescense'... i fell to it too: gTab 7.7? Superbricked and in a coma on my shelf--- why wouod i buy a new one when the gNote 10.1 just came out.
Motorola could set the bar so high, that tthey force companies to stop doing that, or force them onto their own ecosystems. Motorola has liscenced the AMOLED patent from samsung, so we could see a motorola droid or nexus tablet sporting the same features as the Note 10.1 but with Amoled--and hd--and a kevlar back...
I personally am excited about ubuntu mobile and boot to gecko.
Motorola should be Android's greatest champion, but there's no reason why google would ever close-source android just to make motorola its flagship manufacturer. I think we're going to see an incredible rest of the decade---as long as isreal doesnt get nuked---then all bets are off.
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Apparently Mozilla is working on their own smartphone OS - aptly named - Firefox OS, which they claim to be an attempt at a truly open mobile OS. I personally haven't heard much about Ubuntu mobile, but I'd be willing to move over to any other Linux based OS. Fragmentation is an issue, but that's just a side-effect of having an open operating system. Personally I think Android is managing this issue well -- but then again I'm only speaking from the perspective of a RAZR owner.
Fragmentation is not an ssue with open source deployment, its a problem because OEMs are so corporate, so profit/competition-driven, that they cant even fathom a gnu-gpl development scenario---"wait, R&D investment you cant monetize???" Its just beyond them.
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We can have a nexus certified device that has all the gapps. Then enter open source but reduced version no gapps no movie streams no play mArkey no gmail and cant have latest update for two years
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rezoundness said:
We can have a nexus certified device that has all the gapps. Then enter open source but reduced version no gapps no movie streams no play mArkey no gmail and cant have latest update for two years
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Haha you gotta be kidding. Google loves to make money and by doing what your saying they would lose a lot of money. Just accept the fact that you can't have the latest os without buying a new phone. Even iOS is like that every new revision has new features that work on the latest iPhone and not or only partially work on previous I phones.
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Maximinus I said:
Haha you gotta be kidding. Google loves to make money and by doing what your saying they would lose a lot of money. Just accept the fact that you can't have the latest os without buying a new phone. Even iOS is like that every new revision has new features that work on the latest iPhone and not or only partially work on previous I phones.
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Ok but its been 4 months and in the us no phone from launch date has shipped with jb yet... puttyful
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There are phones that have jb on them? Just because our phone doesn't have it officially doesn't mean it isn't out. why does it even matter if we have the latest OS that isn't even very different on an old phone. It's not like we are stuck on GB.
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Maximinus I said:
There are phones that have jb on them? Just because our phone doesn't have it officially doesn't mean it isn't out. why does it even matter if we have the latest OS that isn't even very different on an old phone. It's not like we are stuck on GB.
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It matters to me BIG time. Never show weakness by having an outdated os. People on the latest os will glare and snicker at those who dont. Its a dog eat dog world. Its like my razr ics is a pcjr without it. I think we need support groups and we should sue Google and the carriers over updates.
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Canonical announces Ubuntu for smartphones,

I wonder it can work on the OG because I would love to try this.
I think it looks pretty cool I love using ubuntu on my pc
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
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It ooks really interesting and would be cool if someone ever got it working on our optimus gs
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I would love to use this, since most of the apps are native it should be fast as hell on are hardware compared to the galaxy nexus they where using.
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Very possible. I am sure that n4 will get it.
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Ubuntu for Android has been talked about for months.
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I will try it if possible. I seem to remember reading it not being ready till 2014.
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Snow_fox said:
I will try it if possible. I seem to remember reading it not being ready till 2014.
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Source and img is going to being released in a couple of weeks
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Go and get yourself a Nexus 7, it's one of Canonical's targeted development devices.
I use my phone for making calls and other mundane but critical daily functions, so I am leery about experimenting with my phone; however, it's a different story with my n7 tablet. I can flash any available ROM and do unspeakable things to it and I am able to maintain my level of service for daily living.
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Jhoopes517 said:
Ubuntu for Android has been talked about for months.
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There are two separate products.
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...buntu-for-phones-coming-soon-to-galaxy-nexus/
Ubuntu for Android which was announced about a year ago or so.
Ubuntu for Smartphones was announced yesterday and is a different product.
U4A = a dual boot type environment. when you are walking around it's an Android phone...when docked it's a full fledged Linux OS.
U4S = a full fledged Linux OS...no android at all.
i would love to see this in action. i expect the Carriers to be a big hurdle. AT&T and Verizon will not want to give up control over the handhelds on their network. but just like the ISP has no control over your device's in your home, i hope the consumers can eventually push hard enough that the Carriers go the same route. but to date AT&T still makes the manufacturers lock down their devices and if they could they would revert back to the days when rooting your phone was illegal.
jamesc760 said:
Go and get yourself a Nexus 7, it's one of Canonical's targeted development devices.
I use my phone for making calls and other mundane but critical daily functions, so I am leery about experimenting with my phone; however, it's a different story with my n7 tablet. I can flash any available ROM and do unspeakable things to it and I am able to maintain my level of service for daily living.
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I flash on my phone number tablet and every other device. I have no hesitations to experiment with anything.
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