I have a rooted HTC Desire but that used the Unrevoked method, however I'm a bit puzzled when it comes to rooting/bootloader-unlocking the Galaxy Tab.
What's with the unlocked bootloader, do I already have that? (UK wifi Tab).
Is the info contained in this video all that I need to be able to flash rom's etc?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQDP7xYlWg
UKseagull said:
I have a rooted HTC Desire but that used the Unrevoked method, however I'm a bit puzzled when it comes to rooting/bootloader-unlocking the Galaxy Tab.
What's with the unlocked bootloader, do I already have that? (UK wifi Tab).
Is the info contained in this video all that I need to be able to flash rom's etc?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krQDP7xYlWg
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You don't need an unlocked bootloader to root or flash ROMs or kernals.
Unlocked bootloader is necessary only for ROMs which require manipulation of the bootloader . That means you can't load ubuntu in your Gtab with a locked bootloader.
the above mentioned video is about how to insall CWM recovery and rooting.
Using CWM recovery you can install ROMs
That's great, thanks for clarifying that.
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I've got to give one of the units back and need to decide which.
Since it's possible to flash CW recovery using ODIN both locked/unlocked bootloader devices, is there a benefit to having an "unlocked" bootloader?
I've been able to flash both locked/unlocked as well install Kernels..
I understand, nvflash can't be used on locked bootloader units.. but it seems (from what I understand and have read via searching), most everything can be accomplished via ODIN + CW.
Thanks!
scmguru said:
I've got to give one of the units back and need to decide which.
Since it's possible to flash CW recovery using ODIN both locked/unlocked bootloader devices, is there a benefit to having an "unlocked" bootloader?
I've been able to flash both locked/unlocked as well install Kernels..
I understand, nvflash can't be used on locked bootloader units.. but it seems (from what I understand and have read via searching), most everything can be accomplished via ODIN + CW.
Thanks!
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Lock vs unlock means that if you are unlock you can flash kernels made for ubuntu and other linux distro. Locked bootloaders are generally limited to the samsung kernel so it would be harder to flash other things and make some serious mods that would require nvflash.
Thanks for the reply. Will keep unlocked. Cheers.
Sorry for the noob question, but do these ROMs require the phone to be rooted?
Yes, all ROM's require the phone to be rooted.
yo
Start out with HTC Unlock. Lots of info on this site about it.
Then install a custom rom. It will already be Rooted,
After you've learned more, then you make it S-0ff.
Then you can go backward and forward in radio and other
options without worries.
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Yes, all ROM's require the phone to be rooted.
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Wrong. You don't need root. You need to unlock the boot loader. All instructions for that are in HTCDev.com
you need to Unlock your bootloader first in order to flash a Recovery like CWM or AmonRA which will then allow you to flash/install rooted roms.
Note: if you are on Gingerbread and are going to flash an ICS rom, PLEASE download the required kernel they provide for you to flash as well as the ICS rom. but kernels are flashed through the bootloader/hboot and not in recovery. unless your S-off. if your'e S-on, flash kernels in bootloader.
Hey all,
I'm fairly new to unlocking/rooting (I'm from the simple iPhone jailbreak world).
I have my Atrix 4G rooted with no issues and ClockworkMod installed... that was the easy part it seems.
Where I am struggling is to figure out IF I can unlock my Atrix 4G and if it is safe to do.
I am running Android 2.3.6 on the Bell network. I see a bunch on unlocks for bootloader 2.3.4 and am confisued if that bootloader version has any relation to the android version? How can I figure out what bootloader I have? Would it also be 2.3.6?
If it is indeed 2.3.6, is it possible to unlock, I see no specific unlocks for that version.
Thanks,
You cant install a different recovery with out being unlocked. so if you can boot into CWM then your phone is already unlocked.
Where did you get the phone? was it new?
Its possible if its used that it was already unlocked and someone RSD back to stock for sale purpose, if its new and you havent unlocked yet then you dont have CWM installed.
Random Canadian said:
You cant install a different recovery with out being unlocked. so if you can boot into CWM then your phone is already unlocked.
Where did you get the phone? was it new?
Its possible if its used that it was already unlocked and someone RSD back to stock for sale purpose, if its new and you havent unlocked yet then you dont have CWM installed.
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Sorry should have been a little more clear, I have installed ROM Manager and choose the CWM install, but I cannot boot into it, I get a boot error 2 (I think). Sorry phone is at home now so I can't recall exact error will post later.
I got phone 6 month ago, was used phone. I am fairly certain its not unlocked because I cannot boot with CWM, hence cannot install custom ROM.
Thanks for the reply.
Random Canadian said:
You cant install a different recovery with out being unlocked. so if you can boot into CWM then your phone is already unlocked.
Where did you get the phone? was it new?
Its possible if its used that it was already unlocked and someone RSD back to stock for sale purpose, if its new and you havent unlocked yet then you dont have CWM installed.
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You don't need to be unlocked to have CWM on your Atrix. I had it on at least 1.83 if not the original stock firmware. I know it was possible with only root on 1.83 because that was what I was running up until a month ago and I had CWM on it with a locked bootloader.
cerps said:
You don't need to be unlocked to have CWM on your Atrix. I had it on at least 1.83 if not the original stock firmware. I know it was possible with only root on 1.83 because that was what I was running up until a month ago and I had CWM on it with a locked bootloader.
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Right, my phone is rooted so I have CWM, just can't boot it. My understanding is because I need to unlock, but I don't know how to unlock because I don't know how to figure out what bootloader I have.
cerps said:
You don't need to be unlocked to have CWM on your Atrix. I had it on at least 1.83 if not the original stock firmware. I know it was possible with only root on 1.83 because that was what I was running up until a month ago and I had CWM on it with a locked bootloader.
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Locked or it just didnt say unlocked at the top? two very different things.
avalanche333 said:
Right, my phone is rooted so I have CWM, just can't boot it. My understanding is because I need to unlock, but I don't know how to unlock because I don't know how to figure out what bootloader I have.
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dur im pretty sure that unlocking the boot loader allows unsigned code to run at boot, I could be wrong but I think you two are out to lunch on installing CWM with just root.
That or you can install it but you cant run it because the boot loader wont allow something with out motorolas signature to execute. making the point of if it is or is not, installed, a moot one. Aside from the fact you no longer have any sort of a functional recovery mode.
There is a LOT of info on how to unlock the bootloader and its not exactly hidden. I dont know if its even still done with RSD but that would be a place to start as that is how I did mine in sept of last year.
Random Canadian said:
Locked or it just didnt say unlocked at the top? two very different things.
dur im pretty sure that unlocking the boot loader allows unsigned code to run at boot, I could be wrong but I think you two are out to lunch on installing CWM with just root.
That or you can install it but you cant run it because the boot loader wont allow something with out motorolas signature to execute. making the point of if it is or is not, installed, a moot one
There is a LOT of info on how to unlock the bootloader and its not exactly hidden. I dont know if its even still done with RSD but that would be a place to start as that is how I did mine in sept of last year.
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Yes I see what your saying, but I am saying that I cannot run CWM. I can only install onto my SD card. But the boot in recovery does not work (ie it will not run CWM). I'll post the error little later tonight when I try at it again.
I realize there is lots of info on unlocking bootloader and I am not concerned about doing the unlock, once I find a way to verify my bootloader version. Ive seen a few posts warning that bootloader must be v 2.3.4 or you can brick the phone.
So I guess ultimately my question is, how can I figure out my bootloader version? Have not seem this answers after some googling.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136261
Read that and your version will be in settings and then about phone. although I do believe that 234 and 236 unlock via the same method.
If you are going to install Custom roms CM7/9/10 or a blur based then you dont need to even worry about root. otherwise there are instructions in that thread to root that SBF
Random Canadian said:
Locked or it just didnt say unlocked at the top? two very different things.
dur im pretty sure that unlocking the boot loader allows unsigned code to run at boot, I could be wrong but I think you two are out to lunch on installing CWM with just root.
That or you can install it but you cant run it because the boot loader wont allow something with out motorolas signature to execute. making the point of if it is or is not, installed, a moot one. Aside from the fact you no longer have any sort of a functional recovery mode.
There is a LOT of info on how to unlock the bootloader and its not exactly hidden. I dont know if its even still done with RSD but that would be a place to start as that is how I did mine in sept of last year.
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I'm positive it was locked, running 1.83, and had CWM on it. I bought the phone at an AT&T store myself. I rooted it and put CWM on it. The early version of CWM for the Atrix only was accessible by turning the phone on while plugged into the wall charger that came with the phone.
I thought it was necessary to unlock the bootloader on android phones before i could root them and flash different roms. A buddy of mine had rooted his old s3 but forgot to unlock the bootloader, so when he tried restarting it, it soft bricked. For the longest time I thought you had to unlock the bootloader then root the phone in order to flash custom roms, have I been wrong all this time?
Think of the Loki workaround as a way to trick the bootloader into flashing improperly signed files. Its like using a credit card on the bolt of a locked door. The door is still locked but you get through anyway.
brizey said:
Think of the Loki workaround as a way to trick the bootloader into flashing improperly signed files. Its like using a credit card on the bolt of a locked door. The door is still locked but you get through anyway.
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And what are the risks of using the loki tool if you use it correctly? if there is an OTA update to the phone, will it mess it all up?
You don't you the tool...the developers do. And technically, it is only used for flashing a recovery and flashing ROMS with the recovery. You can root without unlocking the bootloader because there is an pre-release official rootable kernel than can be flashed with Odin. It flashes because it is legit.
So I should be able to just go to the how to root page on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290798 and follow the instructions and flash one of the roms as usual?
yes,go ahead
i have the HTC Desire 610 bought in the UK
ive been trying to root it but i dont know how to. is there any one click root?
is there any video showing how to unlock the bootloader so thet it will show S-OFF
any help will be appreciated.
officialtf_ said:
i have the HTC Desire 610 bought in the UK
ive been trying to root it but i dont know how to. is there any one click root?
is there any video showing how to unlock the bootloader so thet it will show S-OFF
any help will be appreciated.
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hi,
all that things you have on this link. yust follow the instructions.
michelkovacic said:
hi,
all that things you have on this link. yust follow the instructions.
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Its still confusing. Do you know any video that cab help me?
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officialtf_ said:
Its still confusing. Do you know any video that cab help me?
Sent from my HTC Desire 610 using XDA Free mobile app
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unfortunately no. but al those things are very simple. just follow steps one by one and you haven' t any problems. most important is that you have proper drivers installed.
michelkovacic said:
unfortunately no. but al those things are very simple. just follow steps one by one and you haven' t any problems. most important is that you have proper drivers installed.
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Thankd
Sent from my HTC Desire 610 using XDA Free mobile app
I seriously need help. Can you make a video about unlocking boot loader and flashing the super SU
Sent from my HTC Desire 610 using XDA Free mobile app
officialtf_ said:
I seriously need help. Can you make a video about unlocking boot loader and flashing the super SU
Sent from my HTC Desire 610 using XDA Free mobile app
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cant post url because im still a greenhorn......google the following terms
androidteen
root
desire 610
look for the post on aug 23, 2014
props to john Clarkson for a simple guide with great links
HTC Desire 610 Root
officialtf_ said:
i have the HTC Desire 610 bought in the UK
ive been trying to root it but i dont know how to. is there any one click root?
is there any video showing how to unlock the bootloader so thet it will show S-OFF
any help will be appreciated.
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i rooted my phone with this app
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=1314#downloads
it helps a lot and my phone was rooted in less than 10 minutes
To point you in the right direction...
First thing with a HTC is to understand S-ON / S-OFF vs Unlocked / Locked Boot-loader vs Root.
S-ON / S-OFF is Security, and unique to HTC phones.
With the phone S-ON you can still flash a new kernel (boot.img) and flash new ROM's such as Cyanogenmod (and many more!).
With the phone S-OFF you can flash things like the radio, change the CID (Carrier ID) and more, but being unable to S-OFF is not the end of the world.
Bootloader Locked / Unlocked.
With a locked bootloader, you can still gain root, however depends heavily on the exploit and version of android. A locked bootloader is the main restriction on any device.
With an unlocked bootloader, you can now flash custom recoveries (or just boot into them). Flash custom ROM's, and Flash custom Kernels.
HTCdev.com will allow you to unlock your bootloader by following the instructions on there.
Root = Root, i.e. performing commands or having apps perform functions as the systems Superuser (Administrator) account on your device.
You can have your device S-ON, unlock your device, flash a custom ROM, and not be rooted. It's just most custom ROM's ship with root enabled.
Hopefully the above explains (very basically) the differences between a few terms.
And you most certainly do not need to flash a custom recovery in order to install a custom ROM.
Rob
in all honesty
Unless you really really need it to be unlocked I would honestly advise against unlocking and rooting for this device... when i got mine I loved how smooth the original rom was, but being a long time samsung user I was used to flashing anything with minimal impact. But right now this device has 0 development happening and most people who have unlocked and rooted the EU version of this phone have ended up regretting it as there is no way to restore the original eu firmware...
If you do decided to do it please please please make a full backup of the eu rom before hand... and if you do god i think so many members would love you for posting it on here
but in my own opinion I wouldn't go through with the process again...
@torchwolfery we're sharing exactly the same opinion
torchwolfery said:
Unless you really really need it to be unlocked I would honestly advise against unlocking and rooting for this device... when i got mine I loved how smooth the original rom was, but being a long time samsung user I was used to flashing anything with minimal impact. But right now this device has 0 development happening and most people who have unlocked and rooted the EU version of this phone have ended up regretting it as there is no way to restore the original eu firmware...
If you do decided to do it please please please make a full backup of the eu rom before hand... and if you do god i think so many members would love you for posting it on here
but in my own opinion I wouldn't go through with the process again...
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p3tey.cRo said:
@torchwolfery we're sharing exactly the same opinion
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Hi Guys,
As I mentioned in my brief explanation of the different terms of rooting / unlocking etc.
You can unlock, and root, while still keeping the stock recovery, and stock ROM.
This means you can root the original ROM to use root apps, and have root, but then simply factory reset to go back to full stock (albeit with an unlocked bootloader).
When you unlock your boot-loader the device will do a factory reset, take a backup at this point, by booting into TWRP (but you don't need to flash TWRP permanently onto the phone.
Instead of >fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Simply type >fastboot boot recovery.img
Your device will load TWRP, allow you to do a full backup, install superuser / supersu.
Once you exit the recovery, your phone still contains the stock recovery.img, stock boot.img, and stock system.
Hope that helps some others before they flash recovery.img (no need!) and then flash an AT&T ROM on the international version.
readmanr said:
Hi Guys,
As I mentioned in my brief explanation of the different terms of rooting / unlocking etc.
You can unlock, and root, while still keeping the stock recovery, and stock ROM.
This means you can root the original ROM to use root apps, and have root, but then simply factory reset to go back to full stock (albeit with an unlocked bootloader).
When you unlock your boot-loader the device will do a factory reset, take a backup at this point, by booting into TWRP (but you don't need to flash TWRP permanently onto the phone.
Instead of >fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
Simply type >fastboot boot recovery.img
Your device will load TWRP, allow you to do a full backup, install superuser / supersu.
Once you exit the recovery, your phone still contains the stock recovery.img, stock boot.img, and stock system.
Hope that helps some others before they flash recovery.img (no need!) and then flash an AT&T ROM on the international version.
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thanks we know this now and we are not trying to somehow blame you but the fact is that unlocking the bootloader and rooting has caused some issues for us on the international versions... your tutorial works great and gave us what we wanted but sadly there have been downsides on the international version... but now I've manged to get mine fully functioning now