Back in the pre-pudding days, flashing an AT&T radio on an International Atrix was a bad idea. Now that our bootloaders are unlocked, is that still the case? Is the worst that can happen a soft brick, or are there harder bricks waiting to happen?
It's safe to fastboot protocol with RSDlite. I did it the other day tryng a newer radio sbf. Worked fine. The problem from what I've been reading is downgrading to a previous version after updating with OTA.
frelnik said:
Back in the pre-pudding days, flashing an AT&T radio on an International Atrix was a bad idea. Now that our bootloaders are unlocked, is that still the case? Is the worst that can happen a soft brick, or are there harder bricks waiting to happen?
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im using at&t radio cwm flashable on a custom at&t 2.3.4 rom now with ram-fix kernel on my asia retail model (international). works fine so far. or if you don't want at&t radio you can try bell's latest radio as well. both works fine for at&t rom. for me at least.
you can download here att radio or bell radio
Hi Pennzoilgtr
Can you tell us exactly what rom - radio etc you are using and links to them if possible?
I have an international and find that custom roms are hard to find as most are for AT&T.
Thanks
Sweep29 said:
Hi Pennzoilgtr
Can you tell us exactly what rom - radio etc you are using and links to them if possible?
I have an international and find that custom roms are hard to find as most are for AT&T.
Thanks
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i tried Alien by kp and nCrust both works.. for radio as long as you use AT&T rom, you need to flash att or bell radio in order to work properly.. att radio.
and flash this unified international o/c kernel with ram-fix all CWM friendly. works perfect with my asian atrix.
Thank you pennzoilgtr. will try cherry now...
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Hi,
I have a t-mobile USA HD2 and I would like to know if it was possible to flash to the 3.14 european/uk rom without bricking my device? Has anyone tried it yet?
Thanks!!
Final5k said:
Hi,
I have a t-mobile USA HD2 and I would like to know if it was possible to flash to the 3.14 european/uk rom without bricking my device? Has anyone tried it yet?
Thanks!!
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You are on AT&T with a US T-Mobile device?
Anyway, no, it won't work. The US model has more ROM memory than the international models.
thanks for the infos! Good to know that this can't be done.
Final5k said:
Hi,
I have a t-mobile USA HD2 and I would like to know if it was possible to flash to the 3.14 european/uk rom without bricking my device? Has anyone tried it yet?
Thanks!!
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Besides risky tricks with flashing wrong radio and getting expensive paperweight as a result you will not get any benefits flashing European rom.
Theoretically if you really want to have Euro variant - you can extract ruu_signed.nbh from Euro ship.exe and flash it. The device won't be bricked but you will loose half of your flash size.
Normally it works on the contrary - the owners of the European model are installing the OEM drivers and nk from the American model to enable more memory.
If you want to get rid of T-Mobile specific services and settings - flash any custom Leo rom which is TMOUS compatible.
AndrewSh said:
Theoretically if you really want to have Euro variant - you can extract ruu_signed.nbh from Euro ship.exe and flash it. The device won't be bricked but you will loose half of your flash size.
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i think flashing a euro rom (without radio) ((or for example a euro based cooked rom)to a tmous leads to boot sticking at the RGD info screen. Or am i mistaken? ( I have a euro, not tmous, just 14 months dedicated reading, hehe)
Final5k said:
Hi,
I have a t-mobile USA HD2 and I would like to know if it was possible to flash to the 3.14 european/uk rom without bricking my device? Has anyone tried it yet?
Thanks!!
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I would not try it at all the risk of bricking your HD2 is way too high if you do not make sure all factors involved are correct. Plus as other posts here says you will lose some of the phone capabilities.
Selliing my HD2 overseas!!!!!!!!
I am selling my hd2 on ebay and believe it or not downgrading to an optimus s that I want to use either on virgin or Cricket/ Metro for a cheaper better plan. If anyone can help me with the proper radio and rom to flash that would be awsome.
But, that is not my question. On the HD2 side so far the only bidder is from Greece and I have advertised (custom Rom WM6.5, WP7, or Android) Will a Tmous rom work in Greece? If not What rom/or radio will?
I flashed Asia ROm to T-Mobile HD2 and bricked. I believe Euro ROM will do same. Now only way is to use JTAG method to recover
Hi guys
I was wondering if my Aria (it's an Asian one) could be upgraded to the froyo rom that is used by AT&T?
I don't really want to use the custom roms for fear of warranty issues/breaking the phone (it's a friend's) and like.
Thanks in advance.
Tokobo said:
Hi guys
I was wondering if my Aria (it's an Asian one) could be upgraded to the froyo rom that is used by AT&T?
I don't really want to use the custom roms for fear of warranty issues/breaking the phone (it's a friend's) and like.
Thanks in advance.
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You might be able to install the AT&T version if you use a goldcard. It will also depend on which HBOOT version is installed on the Aria. If it is HBOOT version 1.0x, then you probably won't be able to.
From what I've gathered, you should be able to use any Liberty RUU on any Liberty phone with a gold card. The HBOOT version doesn't matter.
For example, if you have the AT&T 2.2 update on your phone, you can use the AT&T 2.1 RUU on your phone. The ROM and radio will downgrade, but the HBOOT will remain the newer version (1.x), which prevents you from rooting the phone but doesn't prevent you from using the 2.1 ROM like a stock phone.
Thanks for the reply, but what's a goldcard?
As for HBOOT, is it something like the HSPL/SPL of the HTC HD? How do I check the HBOOT version?
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Also, since I probably can only flash asian roms, does this mean I can flash any asian rom? I noticed that there are Taiwan, Hong Kong, etc roms (I bought my phone from China).
Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062149
Tokobo said:
Thanks for the reply, but what's a goldcard?
As for HBOOT, is it something like the HSPL/SPL of the HTC HD? How do I check the HBOOT version?
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Sounds like you need to do some searching and research and you don't even need to leave XDA to find all of the answers. Seek and you shall find...
Ok I found out what are both.
Found out that my phone is madein Taiwan though I bought it from China, does this mean I can flash the official taiwan rom here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062149) onto my Aria (if I care not for any clockwork recovery/custom ROMS)?
However, can official roms run non-market android apps?
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Ok I found out what are both.
Found out that my phone is madein Taiwan though I bought it from China, does this mean I can flash the official taiwan rom here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1062149) onto my Aria (if I care not for any clockwork recovery/custom ROMS)?
However, can official roms run non-market android apps?
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The official AT&T ROMS are usually the only ones that don't allow non-market android apps, however there is an update for the AT&T Froyo 2.2.2 ROM that enables this option now, too.
So it would seem that this radio seems to be a favorite among people for solving everything from upload and download speeds to battery life.
I have been trying to get this radio on my phone for a while with no success.
Is there a special method for international users (im a Bell user) to flash this radio successfully?
I have noticed that some international users DO have this radio running on their phone so that's why im hoping there's a way for me to do the same.
cheers
You can flash an sbf with JUST THE RADIO I'm pretty sure.
Try the fruit cake thread as well
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Hi to all,
I have bought an AT&T branded MB860 unlocked-SIM and unlocked-Bootloader. I use this phone in Europe with the CherryBlur v1.4d (shipped rooted and flashed - don't know the origins or the method used) and although I have read literally 200 pages it's been difficult just to figured out my choices in ROM selection. I feel comfortable with CherryBlur but I want to try some more. Up till now the only thing I undestand is to avoid sbf flashing especially previous stock roms, and avoid incompatible kernels and radios.
To cut a long story short:
-Should I search only for Orange France based ROMs? (Orange UK?)
-I have an international phone (because I operate it in Europe) or an ATT phone (because it was initially ATT branded)?
thanx!
If it's ATT branded it's att phone, no matter where you use it.
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If it's ATT branded it's att phone, no matter where you use it.
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it's a MB860 (opposite to ME860) so can I flash alien or other ATT based ROMs and still remain operational in european networks?
it's the radio that allows your phone to operate with the local provider, not the ROM, per se. The ROMs will come with a radio, but you can flash a different radio after loading the ROM (well, obviously not every radio is gonna work on every ROM) - just search for 'radio' in the Atrix Android Development section.
I'm using the ATT Atrix in the UK on CM7, and I've had no problems!
I use my att atrix with att roms in spain. If unsure flash faux's kernel also which works in any atrix
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I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
grant523 said:
I just got a new unlocked AT&T M8, switched over from iPhone. I'm going to be using it with T-Mobile, and I'm still struggling to learn how all this stuff works. So the phone is running on Android 4.4.4 currently, and I want to install a custom ROM on it, but I need Android 5.0. Since I have a T-Mobile sim card, I don't have any OTA updates. From what I understand, if I wanted to switch to a T-Mobile ROM, I'd have to pay $25 for Sunshine, which I'd rather not do. Would I also need to do so to get an international ROM? Also, from what I'm reading, my other option is to use the AT&T RUU from HTC's website to update to 5.0, and then install a custom ROM from there. Is this correct, would that remove my unlock, and are there instructions/recommended readings before I try anything? Thanks for any help.
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You probably want the T-Mob radio software, so you can enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. Otherwise, you will find that the AT&T radio does not give you 3G and LTE in many locations.
In order to flash another carrier's radio, you need s-off, and there is no way around that. Then you need to change the carrier ID (CID) and model ID (MID) to that of T-Mob.
At that point, you may as well RUU to a stock factory T-Mobile software image (not just the radio) and that would be recommended, is it will get you a complete T-Mobile "baseline" phone as opposed to an AT&T ROM with T-Mob radio, etc.
After running the T-Mob RUU, your phone will be "fully converted" to the T-Mob version in terms of software. Others here have converted the AT&T version for use on T-Mob. So I'll try to find one of those threads instead of trying to explain it all again.
None of these mods will change your SIM unlock. That will remain unlocked.
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388
Another point: You can update to the latest AT&T Lollipop software by RUU. And you can flash custom Lollipop ROMs after that. But neither of these will enable the 3G and LTE bands used by T-Mob. So that is why I suggest "converting" the phone to T-Mob stock software instead.
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
grant523 said:
Thanks for the response! Appreciate it. A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together? Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
Thanks again!
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Yes it's different the AT&T ruu won't give you the T-Mobile bands. And you can install custom roms if you want but I would reccomend paying the $25 to s-off and fully converting to t-mobile and either stay on stock or flash a custom t-mobile rom
grant523 said:
A few more questions, since I'm not sure I fully grasp the concept of radios.
If I first flash a T-Mobile ROM, and then install a custom ROM, is that any different from updating with a AT&T RUU and then installing a custom ROM? Will I still be missing the bands?
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I think your first phrase was intended to read "flash the T-Mob RUU, then install a custom ROM".
The radio is not contained in the ROM, and flashing a ROM doesn't affect the radio in any way.
The radio is contained in what many folks here called the "firmware package" or firmware.zip; and it can be installed by flashing the RUU.
Another thing that will help you understand, is that the phone has something like 36 (or more) partitions. The ROM is just one of those. The radio is a separate partition (as bootloader, recovery, and others have their own separate partitions as well). Flashing one partition, does not effect the others. The RUU is a complete software image that flashes all the partitions to factory stock for a certain carrier version.
You can also flash the radio or firmware.zip manually (without flashing the whole RUU). But my personal recommendation would be to baseline to a fully stock T-Mobile software profile, since you are on the T-Mob network, to make sure every partition plays well together (as opposed to mixing T-Mob and AT&T software components).
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If yes, then should I just stay away from Custom ROMs all together?
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I wouldn't say that. Custom ROMs have their place. But a custom ROM will not open up the T-Mob bands. As mentioned, you can only do that by flashing the radio, which isn't affected by flashing the ROM.
After baselining to a T-Mob stock config as I've suggested, you can feel free to flash a custom recovery and flash custom ROMs if you like. But if would be for other reasons than the radio bands; such as performance, customization, debloating, etc..
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Is this a problem because I bought an AT&T phone?
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Basically yes. If you want to be sure a phone works fully on a certain network "out of the box", you should buy the phone that is branded for that network. Otherwise, you should always thoroughly research a phone (not branded for your carrier) before trying to use it on your network.
Luckily for you, on this device the radio bands can be changed in software using the mods I've noted above. On past devices, the band support was set in hardware, meaning where was no way to change it in software. In that case, you would really have some buyer's remorse to deal with.
Ah OK thanks for the responses! I think I'm starting to understand. I did research how an At&t m8 would work with T-MOBILE but I didn't realize i would have to go throw this whole software process to make it work! Anyhow I appreciate the help and I'll buy a Sunshine license when I get a chance. Thanks again!
You are quite welcome.
Here is a thread with more info on changing from AT&T to T-Mob software: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/help/installing-tmobile-rom-att-branded-phone-t3069388#post60606278
Good luck!