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Okay, first of all, I have done a lot of search on this topic over various forums and google. Some topic pops up occasionally, but never got answered, strange...
Basically I am trying to figure out two things:
1. How to move apps to microSD card? Not a single definitive answer or tutorial would allow me to move apps to external SD card. I've tried app2sd, link2sd also the stock CM7 application manager, which all of them would only allow to move apps to internal storage of the phone which is called SD card for Galaxy SII. Also the microsd card is under the diretory of mnt/emmc. Some other tutorials suggesting moving game data over /sdcard/external_sd/, I tried as well, but my microSD's storage doens't go down so I assume the data is still on internal SD card.
2. How to enable apps to save user data automatically on micro sd card? For example, I have lots of camera apps, which automatically save photos that I took on /sdcard/DCIM, I want them to be on my micro SD card AUTOMATICALLY, is there a way of doing this?
Many thanks, oh btw, I am using cyanogenmod 7 on Galaxy SII
I cannot see much reason to move apps to external sd card with a sgs2, that is something for inferior phones , there is a lot of space on application storage and internal sd card for that.
Most people are fine by just moving media files to the external card.
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how about my second question, i shot a lot of photos and hd videos daily, i know i can manully move them to external, but that Kinda make my gallery look clustered if you know what i mean.
Have you tried doin it internally via your phone:settings-applications-running services.On the top left touch on "downloaded" and all your downloaded apps will appear.Touch on whatever app you like and you will get the option to move,uninstall or clear data.Remember that not all downloaded apps are able to be moved to external sd and if the app you would like to move is unmovable by default then you will see that.
The problem is Android only likes one sd card. So when you have an internal SD card like the sg2 the system doesn't take advantage of your external sd card.
imolared333 said:
how about my second question, i shot a lot of photos and hd videos daily, i know i can manully move them to external, but that Kinda make my gallery look clustered if you know what i mean.
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You can change storage area in camera settings (with stock camera app).
Hey all,
I did a quick search in our forum and found a few early threads but nothing that explained the differences to me... This is my first android.
My questions are around this menu:
Settings -> Applications -> Storage Use.
on the 'Downloaded' and 'All' tab, at the bottom it says "Internal Storage"
with what looks like a max of ~2.3GB.. at least mine says 790MB Used, 1.6GB Free.
On the 'On SD Card' tab it says "SD card storage" and a max ~10.5GB or so... (1.3gb used 9.2gb free)
I know I put a 32GB SD card in my phone.... and under phone & SD Storage, I see these three different storage points.
What's what here? Is there an internal mounted SD card in our phones that I can't remove?
When I "Move to SD" card, is the app only moving to this other 'internal' storage?
I was a little confused by this, but if my removable 32GB SD card literally is just extended storage that I put my own music/movies/videos...etc. on, then that's cool...
I just want to understand that 'move to SD' isn't actually moving it to my SD card at all... And then, how many of you move your apps to this other 'internal' SD card, or do you actually have a way to put them on your 'removable' SD card.
Don't know whether this is your first Android phone or, like me, you migrated to the Rezound from another phone, but here's the scoop. What used to be called \emmc on the Incredible, or the "internal" drive of 8 gigabytes is now mounted on the Rezound as \sdcard. Many applications think that your "external memory" is what is actually this "internal" 16 gb drive on the Rezound.
Your removable microsd card is mounted both as \sdcard2 and as \sdcard\ext_sd. For applications which enable you to designate a data directory, e.g. Titanium Backup, My Backup Pro, XDA Premium, Tapatalk, etc., you can redirect the app to store its data on the "real" external drive. Otherwise, your "external" data will really be stored on the "internal", nonremovable 16gb drive.
The other space (I believe it's 8gb) is for applications and ROM. It's so capacious, right now at least, that the necessity we faced on the Incredible and other phones to: (1) "move apps" to SD; or (2) use an ext3 partition and link2sd, is not as pressing. For instance, I easily have >100 apps installed and I still have nearly 2 gigabytes free in that space.
Hope this helps.
This part confused me and seems redundant. Coming from the Inc1 and 2 I never use the internal memory. With a 32gb card I want everything automatically saved on that. Now I have to deal with sdcard sdcard and ext_sd. I'm not enjoying this part of the phone but at least we have an sd
What your phone calls "sdcard" is actually your internal storage, most apps look at "sdcard" as your actual removable card, on this phone it is not. What your phone calls "sdcard2" is your removable sd card. If you want an app to store things on your removable sd card you have to either change the path in the app itself(of course most apps don't have this function) or move the data there manually. Its completely stupid and I hate it, but no phone is perfect.
once everything is fully unlocked we can edit things to switch the 2 around
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Does anyone know how to (or if we can) install apps to the external SD card? Lately I've been getting the "not enough storage" alert when trying to install new or update apps. So then I have to look for crap to delete. By default the apps install to internal storage. When I use TiBackup to move apps to the SD, it moves them to phone storage (internal SD), not the external SD. Anyone?
Pandalero said:
Does anyone know how to (or if we can) install apps to the external SD card? Lately I've been getting the "not enough storage" alert when trying to install new or update apps. So then I have to look for crap to delete. By default the apps install to internal storage. When I use TiBackup to move apps to the SD, it moves them to phone storage (internal SD), not the external SD. Anyone?
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I'm not entirely sure. I know that HTC changed the name of the eMMC and SD card on this phone to 'sdcard' and 'sdcard2' respectively. A lot of apps don't realize the change and think the eMMC is the actual external SD card. The only ones which definitely realize it are the HTC ones.
I don't know if your ROM has it set up differently or not, but the stock ROM is that way.
I thought the whole 'sdcard' naming thing was an ICS issue...
Go to Settings >Apps, select the app you want to move, then pick Move To Phone Storage. You have to do this for each app.
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dezignstuff said:
Go to Settings >Apps, select the app you want to move, then pick Move To Phone Storage. You have to do this for each app.
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Rovio's Bad Piggies came out the other day. It's a moderately intriguing game, which is relevant because its default apk save location is the SD card. Unfortunately for our phone, it thinks the internal eMMC is the actual SD card because of the poor naming convention, regardless whether ICS itself or HTC is the actual culprit. It's save location is '/sdcard/.android_secure/com.rovio.BadPiggies-1.asec'.
I also installed this game on my original Incredible, and it's path name is the same, but it's saved on the actual SD card because it followed normal naming convention. If I move it to the internal storage, it saves in '/data/app/com.rovio.BadPiggies-1.apk'.
Our phone switches between 'Move to phone storage' ('/sdcard/.android_secure/' which is the eMMC) and 'Move to internal storage' (/data/app/).
My original Incredible switches between 'Move to SD card' ('/sdcard/.android_secure/' which is the real SD card) and 'Move to phone' (/data/app/).
Like dezignstuff said, you would normally have to go to Settings -> Apps, and select each app you want to move and tell it to 'Move to phone storage'. Since you're using Titanium Backup to move to move apps to the SD card, it does it all in one fell swoop.
Now, to answer your question again once again, the naming convention is the reason you're seeing it install in the mount named 'sdcard' but it's actually the eMMC. Titanium Backup thinks the same thing most everything does because of the eMMC's name. If you move it to the real SD card, I don't think it would work because I doubt that it would be able to be recognized by the system.
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Go to Settings >Apps, select the app you want to move, then pick Move To Phone Storage. You have to do this for each app.
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I understand all that. I don't want stuff on phone storage. That's where it is now. I want it on the external SD card.
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IceDragon59 said:
Rovio's Bad Piggies came out the other day. It's a moderately intriguing game, which is relevant because its default apk save location is the SD card. Unfortunately for our phone, it thinks the internal eMMC is the actual SD card because of the poor naming convention, regardless whether ICS itself or HTC is the actual culprit. It's save location is '/sdcard/.android_secure/com.rovio.BadPiggies-1.asec'.
I also installed this game on my original Incredible, and it's path name is the same, but it's saved on the actual SD card because it followed normal naming convention. If I move it to the internal storage, it saves in '/data/app/com.rovio.BadPiggies-1.apk'.
Our phone switches between 'Move to phone storage' ('/sdcard/.android_secure/' which is the eMMC) and 'Move to internal storage' (/data/app/).
My original Incredible switches between 'Move to SD card' ('/sdcard/.android_secure/' which is the real SD card) and 'Move to phone' (/data/app/).
Like dezignstuff said, you would normally have to go to Settings -> Apps, and select each app you want to move and tell it to 'Move to phone storage'. Since you're using Titanium Backup to move to move apps to the SD card, it does it all in one fell swoop.
Now, to answer your question again once again, the naming convention is the reason you're seeing it install in the mount named 'sdcard' but it's actually the eMMC. Titanium Backup thinks the same thing most everything does because of the eMMC's name. If you move it to the real SD card, I don't think it would work because I doubt that it would be able to be recognized by the system.
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So, who's the asshole in this situation? Is it ICS itself or HTC for their wonky file system naming convention?
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So, who's the asshole in this situation? Is it ICS itself or HTC for their wonky file system naming convention?
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After some investigation, it's definitely ICS. Several other brands of devices all have "sdcard" and "sdcard2". Regardless of who's at fault, it's still ridiculous. I understand that most devices starting with ICS don't have an actual SD card slot to expand the storage, but ICS should implement a way to move to the real SD card if you have one. Our phone, with its 4GB of available space, isn't that much when you have hundreds of pictures, videos, music files, and apps. I won't ever buy a phone without expandable memory unless it's priced similarly to this one with at least 64GB of space.
It was a change by Google. It occurs in Jelly Bean as well.
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It was a change by Google. It occurs in Jelly Bean as well.
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n the acer a100 there was a way to change the mount points and they called the sd2 the sd and the sd the sd2 with a shell script.
then you simply used some app to move all your apps from the fake to the real sd card
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n the acer a100 there was a way to change the mount points and they called the sd2 the sd and the sd the sd2 with a shell script.
then you simply used some app to move all your apps from the fake to the real sd card
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Somewhere, I saw a way to remap the drives once rooted. I haven't really looked into it, but plan to pursue it as soon as we have root.
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Somewhere, I saw a way to remap the drives once rooted. I haven't really looked into it, but plan to pursue it as soon as we have root.
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Same here. If I have one quibble with ICS, it's how it handle the sd card.
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I think the Nook Color went through this when they were starting with CM9. I'll keep searching and see if I can find anything, it's been a while since I've seen anything about it but I'll keep looking.
how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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you may need root.
don't hold me to that though
thats what i was thinking but i wasnt trying to talk out of my rear end ah well at least i can still store my music and pics on my sd card...without root a 32gb card seems pretty extreme doncha think? without all the nandroids and roms lol
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how the heck can i move my apps to my sd card?? i run the app App 2 SD and all it does is move my apps from phone storage (internal) to the phones (''sd card'') i cant move google chrome, google+, facebook, adobe...all fairly large apps. when i look at apps under settings > apps, the only options i have is to move it to phone storage or internal storage. im pretty lost
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know i don't know if this will work with apps but it work for photos, i opened the phone's card and long pressed on the ones i wanted to move and selected the option-move to, and transfered photos from phone card to sdcard. i did this with es file explorer. from the phones card not the internal storage or memory wharever it's called
Tried using es file explorer and my sd card didn't even show up. This is what it looks like in disk usage
The storage card is the phones hard drive I think (it's 8 gbs right? And we can't use all 8?)
The /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd is my 32 gig sd card. But when I move my apps it goes to internal storage
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Tried using es file explorer and my sd card didn't even show up. This is what it looks like in disk usage
The storage card is the phones hard drive I think (it's 8 gbs right? And we can't use all 8?)
The /mnt/sdcard/ext_sd is my 32 gig sd card. But when I move my apps it goes to internal storage
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
I'll try that after work thanks boss
Aldo101t said:
Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
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We established this in another thread about a month ago. With the introduction of Android 4.0, Google decided to change the way mounts work in Android. Google, assuming that microSD card would be phased out in the introduction of larger capacity internal storage phones without microSD slots, decided to make the internal eMMC storage be named 'sdcard', since most apps already used the 'sdcard' location for saving data, and name a real SD card 'sdcard2', also reachable by a folder in 'sdcard' name 'sd_ext'.
The largest phone out there right now that I know of has 64GB total of internal storage, while phones like ours only have 8GB total, with about half being taken up by the system, necessitating the usage of a real SD card for storage. The /data partition on our phone only has about 1GB available, and a dozen medium-sized apps and their data will use that up quickly. In short, there's no way to install apps to the real SD card since ICS, and once your eMMC 'sdcard' fills up, you're out of luck. A large oversight, in my opinion, by Google and HTC.
If our phone had 16GB of internal storage, we might not have that problem nearly as quickly, but games like DEAD Trigger, which is nearly 200MB, will quickly fill up our phone.
Basically, pick and choose the apps you want carefully, and keep the eMMC 'sdcard' partition as empty as possible, aside from your larger apps.
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Have you tried plugging in phone to computer and dragging and droping from one drive to the other, just a suggestion, don't know if it will work
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When you move an app to 'Phone storage', it saves in the eMMC internal storage '/sdcard/.android_secure/' folder as a '.asec' file. In my testing, if you move it to actual SD card, that is '/sdcard2/.android_secure/', it won't recognize it. It displays 'Application not installed' when clicking on the app to run it. The Android system saves the pointer to the apk, whether it's saved in '/data/app' or '/sdcard/.android_secure/', and that's the only place it will look for it. You can't move it to the real SD card unless someone else has found a workaround, and I haven't heard of it if the have. I'll find the link to our previous discussion and post it.
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We established this in another thread about a month ago. With the introduction of Android 4.0, Google decided to change the way mounts work in Android. Google, assuming that microSD card would be phased out in the introduction of larger capacity internal storage phones without microSD slots, decided to make the internal eMMC storage be named 'sdcard', since most apps already used the 'sdcard' location for saving data, and name a real SD card 'sdcard2', also reachable by a folder in 'sdcard' name 'sd_ext'.
The largest phone out there right now that I know of has 64GB total of internal storage, while phones like ours only have 8GB total, with about half being taken up by the system, necessitating the usage of a real SD card for storage. The /data partition on our phone only has about 1GB available, and a dozen medium-sized apps and their data will use that up quickly. In short, there's no way to install apps to the real SD card since ICS, and once your eMMC 'sdcard' fills up, you're out of luck. A large oversight, in my opinion, by Google and HTC.
If our phone had 16GB of internal storage, we might not have that problem nearly as quickly, but games like DEAD Trigger, which is nearly 200MB, will quickly fill up our phone.
Basically, pick and choose the apps you want carefully, and keep the eMMC 'sdcard' partition as empty as possible, aside from your larger apps.
When you move an app to 'Phone storage', it saves in the eMMC internal storage '/sdcard/.android_secure/' folder as a '.asec' file. In my testing, if you move it to actual SD card, that is '/sdcard2/.android_secure/', it won't recognize it. It displays 'Application not installed' when clicking on the app to run it. The Android system saves the pointer to the apk, whether it's saved in '/data/app' or '/sdcard/.android_secure/', and that's the only place it will look for it. You can't move it to the real SD card unless someone else has found a workaround, and I haven't heard of it if the have. I'll find the link to our previous discussion and post it.
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okey dokey, maybe after root we can do something with it.
Has anyone tried a 64 GB card with this phone? I jumped the gun and bought one for $44 because they work in the Incredible 2.
itll work for media like pics and music I think. Thanks for all the info. I'm new to this phone and also official ICS
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Has anyone tried a 64 GB card with this phone? I jumped the gun and bought one for $44 because they work in the Incredible 2.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841317
I use AndroZip. And I am really confused about the different folders..
I included 2 screenshots for this part of my question..
First one.. can someone tell me what those folders mean..
Second picture.. what the heck are all those folders..
Is the actual external SD card one of those folders. I figured it would be the obvious one but I swear I had more stuff in that folder and Its not there...
Is there a way to make the external sd card the default to where all pics and stuff are saved??
Seems I am running out of storage space on my phone already for some reason.
3rd picture is of a screenshot of my storage use.. ridiculous. I dont understand why everything is on my phone and nothing is on the card..
It was worse a few days ago. My phone kept telling me I had no space left.. it was at like
System storge was 15.23gb/16.00gb
Sd card was 2.20gb/29.71gb
Sorry my question is kinda lame. Im just not good at this stuff.
Thanks for your guys help I really appreciate it
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Not sure what all those folders mean, but emulated sd is actually still internal...your "ext sd" is your external sd. when you open your camera for the first time, it should give the option to save all photos to ext sd. If you missed it, you should be able to hit the menu button, go into settings and change it within a secondary settings menu in there. I use es file explorer or astro typically and have never seen all those usb folders. Perhaps you are plugged into a desktop?
Mount Points
For whatever reason, the Galaxy S4 has many, many mount points for its emulated SD Card. If you're rooted, the actual path to it is "/data/media/0/"
However, the folders in the first picture are ALL paths to your internal or emulated SD Card. sdcard0, ext_sdcard, emulated, legacy, etc.
In the second picture, those look like pre-created mount points for... multiple flash drives? Either way, no reason to worry about them unless you somehow manage to plug up about 7 flash drives or SD Cards to your device.
And as for the space issue... That really is a good question. Factory resetting is never out of the question if you're up for it, however, assuming you're not, the only explanation I could come up with is just a ton of apps with big extra files. Like Minecraft, Call of Duty Black Ops Zombies, Temple Run 2.
Hope I helped, sorry if I didn't. I'm new to Android this year, so I haven't thoroughly looked at all of the quirky stuff it tends to do, but your data usage has to be from something, and if it's not from stuff you put on your emulated SD Card, it has to be from big apps or malware, assuming you didn't tamper with anything in a root file explorer. Are you sure you haven't messed around and copied files to some directory you thought was the emulated SD?
As far as the internal storage, the OS and "most" of your downloaded apps will go here, unless you use foldermount ("move to sd" only moves part of the file). Anyways, I have about 60 apps on my phone and am running hyperdrive and have about the same amount of internal storage left as you. After formatting and whatnot, the device does not have 16gb internal memory...it's more like 11 or 12. Before I was running hyperdrive and was just stock rooted, on that same screen as your 3rd picture, it showed me that I had 9.82gb of internal memory TOTAL, but I had way less used (I currently have no more or no less than I did then, but shows I have 8.23gb out of 16, instead of the 3.9gb out of 9.82 it used to show). Most of which is under "miscellaneous" files and when you go in there to see whats actually there via phone settings, you can't really see what's using all the space. You really need to be rooted and use root explorer (or similar) to see whats using all the storage.