What's the best offline turn-by-turn navigation (for western europe?) are there any free programs? Are they any good or do you need a paid program if so which one?
you can find free programs online that provide navigation, it is the usage of the maps that can cost you money wither you buy them or they use data online.
I want to use it to go on holiday, so I need offline. I would also like traffic and speed control info and maybe use it on my bicycle too.
I like Navigon, but it kills the battery. Sometimes even when charging the battery still drops, then the next minute it charges. Really weird ... and yes I use the original Samsung Car Charger.
Still despite that, Navigon never let me down.
Sygic for me, working perfectly since a recent update - was good before, but occasionally a little buggy. Maps aren't cheap though.
CoPilot is yet another offline GPS .
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I like Navigon too since we dont't have TomTom on Android. But Navigon has to have Data connection on to be able to start.
I use IGo MyWay MotoNav edition. Works nice on SGS2 and without data.
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Is there a navigation app that will work while "not" connected to a mobile network?
The built in one will work for a little bit and then stop with "Data connection lost"
It's just because it is streaming the data constantly. If google could pre-cache the data then it might work. I ran into this issue on a long trip where I went through an "Emergency calls only" zone.
You just need a GPS app which uses offline maps.
Search for them on https://market.android.com
You should expect to pay something for them - basically, you are buying the map content.
I haven't used any of them, so I can't give a good recommendation; they are available, though.
Note that the Eris uses QualComm's "gpsOne" series of GPS chips, which uses A-GPS (Assisted GPS). The assistance data comes from the mobile network, and pre-seeds the GPS unit with an approximate location, which helps in finding a "first fix" rapidly.
What that means in use is that if you start up the phone from a cold start in a location which is outside of cell coverage - and also a fair distance from the last location where the GPS unit got a fix, it might take as much as 60-120 seconds to achieve a first fix. Thereafter, it should be able to update fixes rapidly.
I have used the Eris while driving distances of 40-50 miles in mountainous regions without cell service (using the "My Tracks" application), and it had no problems figuring out where it was (Lat/Lon) at all times, but of course it did not have any "map" data for me to view - I was operating the phone in Airplane Mode to preserve battery. I have also used it to "mark" locations of interest after camping overnight and fishing in areas that were completely void of cell service. In those cases, I was literally powering up the phone, gettting a GPS fix (might take 1-2 minutes), recording the Lat/Lot to a notepad app, and then shutting off the phone. Worked perfectly for that, but I was only getting Lat/Lon in that case.
Make sure you operate the phone in Airplane Mode - the battery will drain quite quickly if you don't do that, as the phone is constantly scanning (at full power) to try and connect to a voice (1x RTT) network.
What I have not done, though, is spent many consecutive days in the wild with no service... so I am not entirely sure what would happen if the A-GPS data got too "old" and expired. The QualComm docs suggest that the gpsOne chips should be able to operate fully autonomously, but whether that happens depends on the software. There were reports way back when the Eris was still on Cupcake (1.5) that folks that traveled outside the US could not get their GPS to work correctly.
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Is there a navigation app that will work while "not" connected to a mobile network?
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You just need a GPS app which uses offline maps.
Search for them on https://market.android.com
You should expect to pay something for them - basically, you are buying the map content.
I haven't used any of them, so I can't give a good recommendation; they are available, though.
Note that the Eris uses QualComm's "gpsOne" series of GPS chips, which uses A-GPS (Assisted GPS). The assistance data comes from the mobile network, and pre-seeds the GPS unit with an approximate location, which helps in finding a "first fix" rapidly.
What that means in use is that if you start up the phone from a cold start in a location which is outside of cell coverage - and also a fair distance from the last location where the GPS unit got a fix, it might take as much as 60-120 seconds to achieve a first fix. Thereafter, it should be able to update fixes rapidly.
I have used the Eris while driving distances of 40-50 miles in mountainous regions without cell service (using the "My Tracks" application), and it had no problems figuring out where it was (Lat/Lon) at all times, but of course it did not have any "map" data for me to view - I was operating the phone in Airplane Mode to preserve battery. I have also used it to "mark" locations of interest after camping overnight and fishing in areas that were completely void of cell service. In those cases, I was literally powering up the phone, gettting a GPS fix (might take 1-2 minutes), recording the Lat/Lot to a notepad app, and then shutting off the phone. Worked perfectly for that, but I was only getting Lat/Lon in that case.
Make sure you operate the phone in Airplane Mode - the battery will drain quite quickly if you don't do that, as the phone is constantly scanning (at full power) to try and connect to a voice (1x RTT) network.
What I have not done, though, is spent many consecutive days in the wild with no service... so I am not entirely sure what would happen if the A-GPS data got too "old" and expired. The QualComm docs suggest that the gpsOne chips should be able to operate fully autonomously, but whether that happens depends on the software. There were reports way back when the Eris was still on Cupcake (1.5) that folks that traveled outside the US could not get their GPS to work correctly.
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I have a lot of experience with trying a few of the commercial (pay) Android GPS apps. Firstly, due to research, I found that there was, at the time at least, only a very small handful of commercial GPS apps which supported MDPI (the Eris' screen resolution). Shame because otherwise some of the ones which I can't remember by name sounded very promising.
There were definitely two which did work on the Eris. Like anything else, each one had it's own advantages and disadvantages. I thoroughly tested CoPilot Live for Android v8. It wasn't bad, and I see now on their main page advertising $5 for U.S. and $19.99 for all of North America (U.S. and Canada), which seems almost too good to be true, but I verified it on the Android Market. I don't remember having any particular problems with CoPilot, I just preferred iGo My Way 2009, but their website no longer even mentions the Android except for here and I don't see it on the Market.
That's too bad but I guess that helps you to make a decision on buying one if you do so.
Maybe it has something to do with how much iGo got pirated, as alluded to in this thread.
I did buy and am currently using iGo My Way, except when it's just a shorter trip, since especially on the Eris, there is a definite slow initial load time for the app (under a minute but slow in our impatient world). Once the app's loaded, however, it's lightning fast. Definitely recognizes wrong turns a lot quicker than Google Maps.
Another vote for iGo MyWay. Starts up in about 45 seconds, but it works perfect in landscape and portrait. Once its loaded its the fastest turn by turn I've ever used. (I've only used older model "JUST" gps devices though. FWIW)
apparently there is a modified version of google maps that allows cache of data. I have nothing to do with this program and have not personally used it. i am just reposting here:
*edit: removed old link see other forum link*
apparently you can load it in addition to regular google maps and have both of them on your phone.
"You can enable map caching (Menu -> More -> Brut Mod -> Read map from cache, Save map to cache). This will force GMaps to save map tiles to the SD card and read from the SD card first, before attempting to download from the net. You can connect via WiFi (or any other net source) and preload the tiles before you start your trip, thus making the maps available for offline use.
The preloading can be done by simply browsing the the route you will be travelling - just make sure you do it at the zoom level(s) you desire. I believe you can even use programs like GMapMaker to download the map tiles from a regular computer, but I haven't tested this method."
edit: found the post on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
edit 2: also enables use of google maps in other countries
starting p235, there is a discussion of some ownhere version that uses gmaps5.1. i believe it still allows downloading of maps to cache.
My girlfriend got this phone in the mail today from signing up for some contest. She doesn't need it, I don't need it, but what she does need is a new pmp.
Would it be possible to use this phone just as a personal media player? I've never used a phone with this kind of set up before (no contract situation). If she doesn't pay anything does the phone still function as normal with the exception of data and voice?
Like would all other aspects of the phone still function normally? Also is this even worth doing (in terms of battery life and speed of the phone?).
I'm a little jealous because I just happened to not go in and sign up for the same thing she did that day. Lucky girl
It will work great as a wifi enabled media player. Just turn off the gps, 3g data, etc. I don't have a contact our a data plan with my phone and out works great on just wifi for playing music and podcasts, including diagnosing music from online.
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My girlfriend got this phone in the mail today from signing up for some contest. She doesn't need it, I don't need it, but what she does need is a new pmp.
Would it be possible to use this phone just as a personal media player? I've never used a phone with this kind of set up before (no contract situation). If she doesn't pay anything does the phone still function as normal with the exception of data and voice?
Like would all other aspects of the phone still function normally? Also is this even worth doing (in terms of battery life and speed of the phone?).
I'm a little jealous because I just happened to not go in and sign up for the same thing she did that day. Lucky girl
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Works GREAT as an AUDIO player... It'll suffer in video playback though, but you might as well keep it as it has access to the Google Market, a kinda passable camera, and well er I guess it's "free"...
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YES! Post below! Airplaine mode is a MUST if you're NOT using it as a phone!
Also must mention that GPS in the phone MAY be handy if you don't have another phone/device with it...
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you should put your phone in airplane mode (no data transfer, no calls, no wifi, no gps, no everything except for apps, that way the battery life will last forever (wich is about 5 days in this phone). You do this in the notification taping the airplane icon
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If i leave gps on.... and all the apps i have that may use gps (travel, voucher etc) do not run in the back ground,
except google maps.... will this really drain random battery throughout the day.
The reason I ask this is when using google maps...i see the gps symbol on the top of my phone, but once i back out of it...the symbol disappears, and when i go back into it to resume what i was doing the symbol turns back on and the gps has to find my location all over again.
Hence I come to the conclusion that the gps is not 'always on' when you don't need or (given you don't have any dodgy apps)
Then I could turn off googles location sharing thing, because if I am correct you need that on if you want to use location services without gps?
SGS2 uses sirfstar IV
http://www.sys-con.com/node/1822443
http://www.csr.com/products/25/sirfstariv-gsd4t
This is a modern GPS chip, it don't think it uses much battery. I've always GPS on and I've no battery issues. And I agree that it seems that the chip is set to some kind of standby when not in use so turning off the GPS in the settings (or notfication pull down) seems more like a privacy thing than power related.
Thanks for confirming. Will now try leaving gps on and location services off and see what happens. sometimes gps on its own takes a few extra seconds to locate you...might be annoying with certain apps
If you refuse location sharing you will not be able to use WIFI positioning service, but can still use cell tower positioning if your GPS is off. Personally I never use WPS since WIFI use a whole lot of power so I always keep it off. There are situations where it's useful (i.e. inside downtown can't get a GPS signal), so you can decide if you want it or not.
I usually keep my GPS off too, since when I open maps I just want to look at map, I don't need to know my exact location (and use the extra power).
My Galaxy S2 GPS sucks the battery life when I keep it on. My partner keeps his Galaxy S2 GPS on and the icon only comes on when something like Maps loads but immediatly goes away when you you exit Maps. Mine seems to stay on all the time and I can't see any obvious process running all of the time (except Maps). I monitor the battery usage with a tool and GPS is certainly running my battery down far quicker than if I turn it off.
Anyone else experiencing the same?
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My partner keeps his Galaxy S2 GPS on and the icon only comes on when something like Maps loads but immediatly goes away when you you exit Maps. Mine seems to stay on all the time and I can't see any obvious process running all of the time
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I have the GPS setting turned on all the time, but my GPS only really turns on when I open an app that uses GPS, like Maps or Facebook. Just like your partner.
I actually want to keep it on all the time... like yours
Can you send me your /etc/gps.conf and /etc/sirfgps.conf ?
I'm not sure if that's what control this behaviour.
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I have the GPS setting turned on all the time, but my GPS only really turns on when I open an app that uses GPS, like Maps or Facebook. Just like your partner.
I actually want to keep it on all the time... like yours
Can you send me your /etc/gps.conf and /etc/sirfgps.conf ?
I'm not sure if that's what control this behaviour.
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I only had the gps.conf, not the sirfgps.conf file. Attached here.
I have to turn on GPS only when I need it for something and turn it off, otherwise it clearly drains my battery, in pretty quick fashion.
I had to rename it gps.txt to upload it.
Keeping GPS on is not draining your battery, because its realy turning on, only on application requests. Battery drain may come from some buggy app, which not close it GPS connection. You can easily see this by your GPS indicator. No indicator - no app using GPS atm - no battery drain, flashing indicator - GPS trying to lock ur position, indicator on - GPS is used and got lock on sattelites.
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its realy turning on, only on application requests
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Is there a way to keep GPS always on, independent of an application request?
I want to control it on/off manually
I leave GPS on all the time. Only works when apps request / need it. No battery life issues for me.
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Hi Members,
Does anybody know more about the GPS in the HTC Mozart ?
In my old Touch2 i ve got real GPS Modul, the GPS-Fix takes only 1 Minute.
Offline Navigation with Tomtom7.9 was fast and stable and precision. Thats what i need !
Then ive got an Iphone 3GS . It has only AGPS , not a real GPS Modul.
GPS Fix without WIFI or 3GS take about 30 Minutes . The free Navigation runs, but very unprcecision under Trees. Thats a Joke....
Now i have the HTC Mozart. The Telekom Select Navigon Navigation dont start without a DATA Connection via 3GS !
And i found no realy Offline Navigation Software.
Does the HTC Mozart contains a real GPS Modul or only a AGPS Chip like the IPhone ?
Im really angry obout this steps back in the stoneage.
Iv bought an Tomtom XL to navigate. Now iv got 2 Devices and a lot of Cables here in my Car .
Has anybody a better solution for WP7 ?
Nokia Drive, HTC Location... all with no data navigation
Navigon also works without data conection,
just remember to turn on your "location" under settings, then it activates the real gps modul in our mozart.
follow the steps.
the answer to your question is YES.
and follow the steps
1.turn on the gps in settings.
2.turn on the gps in your navigation software(optional if the app has a setting like this)
3.there you go. even without a data connection.
and btw i was curious, does iphone 3gs really a-gps not real gps?
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I have now 3 gps in my Mozart... Turn by Turn from gps tuner, which requires data connection so you can download maps on the fly but also you can download them at home via wifi, GPS Navigator from aSpass which is the same, and Nokia Drive that i havent tried yet!
Hi. I use Navigon 4.1 on my HTC Mozart. Did anyone noticed that after using the program for more than 20 mins, the phone turns very hot (i never imagined that a mobile phone can turn this hot). I used it a few times to go to a city 80km and after reaching, when i touched the phone for turning off the navigation, it was really hot. The screen stopped responding to my touch, and I had to cool it in front of the AC for a few mins before it became responsive again. (My guess: the program stresses the processor to near max capacity all the time)
I tried the same distance with nokia drive, and everything was normal. There was only slight heat production (I guess because of the screen turned on for so long), but nothing like when I have navigon on.
Does anyone else has this problem, or am I the only one?
Any reply would be helpful.
Thanks.
Case: If I download maps for my city.
Then turn off WIFI and data connection. Just Keep ON GPS.
NOW what things can I do with downloaded maps???
Q1. Can I search for places in my city? (Offline)
Q2. Can I search for directions to a destination from my Location (using GPS) without any data or WIFI.???
I mean the downloaded maps contains streets and places and landmarks also. So Can I get directions WITHOUT any data / WIFI connection??
Q3. Say I search a location and also get direction to that location in OFFLINE mode, (((((assuming answer to above 2 questions as YES)))
So can Nokia maps guide me with NAVIGATION to that location WITHOUT any data / WIFI connection??? Just by using GPS...
Yes, yes and yes. Just tested it now.
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Wow, I tried searching it on YouTube, but there aren't any videos for this.
Maybe I’m just being impatient, but I’ve never managed to get a GPS fix without any sort of data connection. Can anyone confirm this is possible, if so how long did it take to get the fix?
Ooije said:
Maybe I’m just being impatient, but I’ve never managed to get a GPS fix without any sort of data connection. Can anyone confirm this is possible, if so how long did it take to get the fix?
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Yes, with a data connection, you can dramatically shorten the GPS fix time. Without it, it may take many minutes from a cold start and still a minute or two from a warm start (means you had a fix before on the same location short time ago). With data connection to assit, you can get a fix as short as less than 10 seconds.
AGPS is a quick way to get a GPS lock by downloading ephemeris data.
Without a data connection the GPS chipset will manually discover the positions of the satellites which can take up to 5 minutes. The longer the time between each use of GPS the longer it takes to get a lock. So the first lock may take a few minutes but another lock on attempt on the same day may take 10 seconds.
I have used so far the GPS without Data(phone is locked no sim) in a few countries now. Mexico, USA, Canada and China. So far I had only one issue in Canada as I never had a wifi before going to car rental at airport. The GPS didn't link up for a long time. If you can hook up to wifi before leaving airport and turning Nokia Maps or navigation on to learn GPS positon may help out the time. There is sometimes a small lag in China for position but normally working ok and acuracy seems to be within reason. Funny issue though it sometime always takes me back to Mexico, like it is stuck in memory even after weeks abroad until GPS position is located.
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Maybe I’m just being impatient, but I’ve never managed to get a GPS fix without any sort of data connection. Can anyone confirm this is possible, if so how long did it take to get the fix?
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With data - fix in seconds, even indoors - that's because the system will get an idea of where you are based on the location of the cell tower or failing that using wifi to get a location. This inaccurate location is good enough to narrow down the possible locations of two or more GPS satellites, so the system can more quickly triangulate your position on the earth.
Without data - standard "search sky for fix" cold start time for GPS - with a clear view of wide area of sky, 5 minutes to find three sats, figure out which hemisphere you are in, and then fix your position. If you are standing still. With obscured sky or you moving reasonably fast, 2-3x longer. Indoors (or in a car), forget it.
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/howgpsworks.php
Real world - on a cruise ship in the pacific making 20 knots or so, I was not able to get a fix from the balcony of my room, ever (not enough sky) but on top with clear 360 degree view of sky it did fix after 10 minutes. When in port in Mexico (not moving) on deck, 5 minutes, or instant fix when roaming on one of the Mexican cell towers.
5 minutes? that is very long, probably has to do with the location. with deactivated data/wifi cold start gps fix takes me 10s, accurate location (<5m) after 30s (cloudy, indoor but next to a window)
Question ...
Are you satisfies with the number of locations Nokia Maps knows in your country??
In India, in my city, it does not know names of places not even 60% of Google maps.
I'm talking about places and NOT about names of streets and squares . It knows names of many streets & squares(still less than Google maps)..
I'm asking about places and bussiness places. New places.
Also, for any restaurant, the number of reviews Are. FAR FAR less than the number of reviews of that same restaurant available on GOOGLE maps.
This is about Nokia Maps in my city (very famous) in India.
Please tell about your city/country so It'll help me and all whether they'll need Google maps ( gMaps )app to Download or not.
recommend have gmaps as well. It has more detail. No app is perfect, Nokia doesn't have as much details for locations.
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recommend have gmaps as well. It has more detail. No app is perfect, Nokia doesn't have as much details for locations.
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I went to Nokia Map Maker and there I located my college and some other places in my city and then I added them to Nokia Maps.
But then after a month also, when I search for my college using Nokia Here maps, it doesn't show it,even though I added them 1 month ago.