[Q] Flash to stock JFD without Odin? - Vibrant Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have cyanogenmod 7, but it's way to buggy. I need a clean install, but I recently dropped my phone in the pool and it won't connect via USB.... Is there a way to revert to stock JFD on my device? Maybe a flashable .zip? or a full restore? I dunno, i'm pretty desperate and my device is fully backed up on my PC.

Based on my understanding (which could be completely wrong), the answer is a long yes. CM7 uses clockwork 3.X, which uses edify scripting. All of our 2.2 & 2.1 flashable zips use amend scripting, which is not compatible with clockwork 3.X. So based on this you would have to change the scripting on a flashable zip with 2.2 or 2.1 on it to be able to apply it with clockwork 3.x (which I have no idea how you would do or where to start) or get clockwork 2.x on your CM7 rom (which I'm not sure is possible).

new charger port bro. we went over this last night

hahaha i know, right? but i'm not gonna pay fifty bucks to have someone fix it, and i can't do it myself..... I'm a software developer, not a hardware engineer.

bfranklin1986 said:
Based on my understanding (which could be completely wrong), the answer is a long yes. CM7 uses clockwork 3.X, which uses edify scripting. All of our 2.2 & 2.1 flashable zips use amend scripting, which is not compatible with clockwork 3.X. So based on this you would have to change the scripting on a flashable zip with 2.2 or 2.1 on it to be able to apply it with clockwork 3.x (which I have no idea how you would do or where to start) or get clockwork 2.x on your CM7 rom (which I'm not sure is possible).
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K, i got clockworkmod 2.x on my phone. You know where I can get a 2.1 rom?

Bible sticky in dev section
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oh yeah. thanks.

How did it work out im in same situation mines completely broken so no Odin an I can't get replacement 4 a while an I got school so I need 10hr+ need battery life
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[Q] What is edify?

It seemed to pop up out of nowhere when Super Clean switched to it. Now I'm seeing themes and such having to be updated to support it. Googling it just brings me to threads here discussing it, but I can't find anything introducing what it is.
It's the new update format introduced and required by CWM 3.
Does that mean a rom using edify must be flashed from CWM 3? Or is it backwards compatible?
Also, do themes with edify work on non-edify roms?
Pretty sure edify only works with 3, and 3 only works with edify.
jvincent08 said:
Does that mean a rom using edify must be flashed from CWM 3? Or is it backwards compatible?
Also, do themes with edify work on non-edify roms?
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Edify isnt a rom type. All it is is the type of scripting language that the updater script inside the flashable zips use. So if you still have cwm 2.x you'd still be able to flash stuff that uses the amend scripts. But cwm 3 is edify and edify only. But to really answer your question, as long as the flashable zip's script is written in edify it'll flash as any other would, but only with CWM 3.x
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times_infinity said:
Edify isnt a rom type. All it is is the type of scripting language that the updater script inside the flashable zips use. So if you still have cwm 2.x you'd still be able to flash stuff that uses the amend scripts. But cwm 3 is edify and edify only. But to really answer your question, as long as the flashable zip's script is written in edify it'll flash as any other would, but only with CWM 3.x
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The red cwm from Jt seems to work with amend & edify as well. I upgraded to superclean 2.71 using the red cwm with no problems.
Ya from what I understand from the devs cwm 3.x is only edify while previous versions supported both.
Personally I'm still running 2.x red cwm.
Orange cwm doesn't work either. I don't trust it to do the necessary flashing that the red one can do.
Edify can work with older recoveries, but won't necessarily work, but amend will not work with CWM 3.x.
Also, why do people say that nothing works in the new cwm 3.0? I've flashed a few roms in it with no problems. Sure, stuff may be broken in it, but how is that different from green cwm?
garywojdan81 said:
The red cwm from Jt seems to work with amend & edify as well. I upgraded to superclean 2.71 using the red cwm with no problems.
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As did I. Interestingly enough I had just flashed that new one a few days before adding 2.7.1, so maybe that's how I skipped whatever problems others are having.
When I want to flash I have to use Odin to flash a cwm.tar file. I wish the orange would work on everything!!!
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[Q] eb01 stock to blackhole

i have rom manager, built my rom, and downloaded it. where does rom manager put it and how do i install via cwm
You may want to do some more reading. With all due respect, if someone took the time to write up how to you might not get it. The how to's in the dev section break it down reallly simply. Im "new" to this stuff and have rooted and flashed multiple phones and roms by FOLLOWING the directions exactly. Never even used rom manager. I used oneclick root method, latest cwm not 3.0, and am enjoying jt's vanilla aosp w nextheme
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SC 2.9 voo doo

Warning Noob Question:
So I flashed sc 2.9 nv. Does the sc 2.9v rom include a voo doo kernel or would I flash the kernel then flash the 2.9v rom? Also is this worth my time. Everything seems to run smooth as is. Will voo doo give me any noticable benefits?
Thanks
Superclean comes with either a voodoo kernel or a nonvoodoo kernel depending on which one you install. But in reality, its better to flash some of the custom Froyo kernels afterwards for a bit more umph.
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What kernel would you recomend
pwshadow said:
What kernel would you recomend
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Newest comavolt kernel
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I cant find one thats non touchwiz
Or imnuts' latest I think it's 330, works great for me
What advantage does that have over the standard eb01 voodoo kernel?
Well it looks like it doesn't matter because I cant flash them anyway. The only Kernels I can find wont flash using cwm 3. I cannot find an older version of cwm anywhere.
SC should have installed cwm 2.5 at the same Time. The fascinate still use cwm red, not orange.
Also I would install jt's new ec10 based voodoo kernel. Yes it's TW but it's stable and clean.
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What happens if I flash a tw kernel with a rom that isnt?
voodoo kernel, IMO, since it utilizes the faster ext4 file system instead of the stock samsung one.
Ok so i tried flashing a bunch of different cwm versions and eventually started getting an error in cwm when i did a boot to recovery through Rom Manager. So i did the normal boot and when it pulled up it was red lettering and said CWM Voodoo lagfix recovery 2.5.x. So I figured while i was there i would try to flash the voodoo kernel in my sd card and it worked. Creepy robot voice and all. Now im wondering what I did and if maybe i screwed up something since my CWM 3 doesn't seem to be working.
You don't want CWM 3 to work. With the Fascinate, you need to stay on 2.5.x.x because CWM 3 is written for the newer edify scripting. Fascinate still uses amend scripting.
Awesome. Thanks for all the help. One more question. Is it a necessaty to download setcpu with voodoo? am i going to hurt my phone without it?
No it's not necessary, and it won't cause any damage. Over/under clocking your CPU can be of some benefit (performance vs. battery life when idle), but it is definately not mandatory.

[Q] Edify Scripts

This from Eugene:
All Scripting will be based on edify from here on ( No amend support )
When you update the zImage, and load Eugene's latest recovery, it will no longer flash other ROMs that are not built the way Eugene has done with his.
This is not a complaint, amend support has been deprecated by Google and the world is moving on. But right now I can't flash anything by EDT or TW without using ODIN to reset everything.
For dev level folks getting around this might be easy, but for a guy like me, it creates a barrier.
So my question for the devs would be, is everyone else planning on moving into edify scripts as well? Will I soon be able to flash GCR3 U7, then Bi-Winning, then Bionix without having to completely re-stock and re-root every time?
When we all move on to gingerbread ,everyone will use amend. It's dependent on the recovery. 2.2 kernels all use amend based recovery.
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One way you can get around this is to flash another kernel. I think the stock voodoo kernels in supercurio's voodoo lagfix thread flash using edify but when loaded they support ammed scripts.
Also, bigertime, there is a word mistake in your first sentence. Gingerbread required edify, and you put ammed, just pointing that out so that people don't get confused.
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geoffcorey said:
One way you can get around this is to flash another kernel. I think the stock voodoo kernels in supercurio's voodoo lagfix thread flash using edify but when loaded they support ammed scripts.
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good info...thanks
Androidawg said:
This from Eugene:
All Scripting will be based on edify from here on ( No amend support )
When you update the zImage, and load Eugene's latest recovery, it will no longer flash other ROMs that are not built the way Eugene has done with his.
This is not a complaint, amend support has been deprecated by Google and the world is moving on. But right now I can't flash anything by EDT or TW without using ODIN to reset everything.
For dev level folks getting around this might be easy, but for a guy like me, it creates a barrier.
So my question for the devs would be, is everyone else planning on moving into edify scripts as well? Will I soon be able to flash GCR3 U7, then Bi-Winning, then Bionix without having to completely re-stock and re-root every time?
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Since Eugene has moved on to greener pastures, I removed his last kernel from my personal gc remix. I replaced the kernel with a version of cwk, replaced the edify scripts with the amend script from gc3.5, and removed the wipe file from the root of the zip, replacing it with the busybox file from gc3.5 in the root of the zip. It makes flashing back and forth to different roms less labor intensive.
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Br1cK'd said:
Since Eugene has moved on to greener pastures, I removed his last kernel from my personal gc remix. I replaced the kernel with a version of cwk, replaced the edify scripts with the amend script from gc3.5, and removed the wipe file from the root of the zip, replacing it with the busybox file from gc3.5 in the root of the zip. It makes flashing back and forth to different roms less labor intensive.
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Here's the part where I ask you to post that. You knew it was coming.
Androidawg said:
Here's the part where I ask you to post that. You knew it was coming.
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Had an idea it was coming, but I'm not going to rehost his rom. The changes are simple enough, plus the specific kernel I am using was never meant to see the light of day, and I swore to its creator it never would through my hands. If you're looking for more specific directions, I can post more later when I get home. The simplest way is to open gc3.7 and gc3.5 in two different 7zip windows, and drag the scripts and busybox files as I described earlier from 3.5 to 3.7, and also the kernel of your choice into the update folder inside the zip. Lmk if you need any more help on that.
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so when sg2 comes out? will the devs be using edify or ammend?? curious noob here?
great question androidawg
well, since the SGS II is using GB, and GB REQUIRES edify (no legacy ammend support) then the devs will HAVE to use edify, there isn't any other choice.
geoffcorey said:
well, since the SGS II is using GB, and GB REQUIRES edify (no legacy ammend support) then the devs will HAVE to use edify, there isn't any other choice.
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That was my understanding.
Br1cK'd said:
Had an idea it was coming, but I'm not going to rehost his rom. The changes are simple enough, plus the specific kernel I am using was never meant to see the light of day, and I swore to its creator it never would through my hands. If you're looking for more specific directions, I can post more later when I get home. The simplest way is to open gc3.7 and gc3.5 in two different 7zip windows, and drag the scripts and busybox files as I described earlier from 3.5 to 3.7, and also the kernel of your choice into the update folder inside the zip. Lmk if you need any more help on that.
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Sounds simple enough. But doesn't opening a .zip mean that it needs to be re-signed? I never understood how that works. Moving the files is easy enough.
If you're using cwm, then no resigning is required. That's part of the reason to get cwm.
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Androidawg said:
Sounds simple enough. But doesn't opening a .zip mean that it needs to be re-signed? I never understood how that works. Moving the files is easy enough.
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Youre actually not going to unzip the archive at all. Using 7zip, open the archive (right click-7zip menu-open archive), add and remove the files at your leisure, then close the 7zip window. You can even rename the zip and it will flash without needing to sign it. The latest versions (since january to my knowledge) of cwm dont even check the signature verification. Making it just that easy.
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[Q] Scripting Error when flashing ROM.

Well, just as the title suggests, I'm getting scripting errors when trying to flash a ROM.
I am currently running CM7 (latest stable) And wish to flash Team Toxic's Toxic8. It seems the update package was created using Ammend scripting, and that form of scripting was let go in Recover versions 3.0 and up. I have CWR ver. 5.0xx. I was wondering, is there a way arround this? Or should I flash an older version of cwr? Thanks in advance.
Bump bump, ba-ba bump it up!
Odin back to jfd....
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Ugh. Lame. Thanks bro
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Because on the different file system used by CM7 based ROMs, any time you want to move to a non-CM7 ROM from a CM7 based ROM will require that you first ODIN back to stock.
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