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Video preview of a new launcher called TSF Shell Pro being developed for Android. If this video is an accurate reflection of how the final release will work it could be the best launcher to date.
Check it out here (choose 720p for best quality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYzYQ6YtepU
**UPDATE: This has been released and can be found in the Market. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tsf.shell Make sure to read the reviews here and in the Market before purchasing.
An alternate XDA thread here as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1523527&page=12
HOLY ****...that is sweet.
That's awesome
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The site's blog is in a different language but I translated the last post. Apparently they have a Beta around..
I have to admit this is kind of attractive like TATU Ui that never came out
http://www.tsfui.com/blog/
Thank you for your support. TSF SHELL closed beta application number have been carried out five days to apply the user has exceeded expectations, so the decision to close on December 14, closed beta user registration.
TSF has already begun to test models for registration, this time to support many users gave TSF TSF sent a lot of mail, in order not to affect the progress of development and debugging, TSF is no way to respond to everyone, hope to understand, thank you for TSF's attention and support.
Wow simply amazing. Dont want to spoil it for anyone very freaking cool.
Looking forward to its release.
TS
it's cool but sorta gimmicky...
Definitely has a cool factor that we can show off to the iOS fanbois hahahaha
I love it.
I wonder about memory and battery usage
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I love it.
I wonder about memory and battery usage
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Incredible amounts of both.
yeah i got this uber launcher here let me show you all it can do... ( 30 minutes later ) sorry battery died... don't understand why that keeps happening i just charged it an hour ago...
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yeah i got this uber launcher here let me show you all it can do... ( 30 minutes later ) sorry battery died... don't understand why that keeps happening i just charged it an hour ago...
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Hard to say. Peeps said that about SPB Shell as well but battery life is just as good as stock launcher. I would think TSF would be right along the lines of any other mainstream launcher (lp, adw, etc).
Really the best ui feel for android....
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i just for see that a bunch of us will be playing with our phones and killing our batteries really quick. And of course we will want to show it off lol...
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Hard to say. Peeps said that about SPB Shell as well but battery life is just as good as stock launcher. I would think TSF would be right along the lines of any other mainstream launcher (lp, adw, etc).
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I used SPB for weeks. It is the biggest battery drain I've ever had on my phone. The day I stopped using it was the day my battery life came back up to normal. I still keep it to show off my phone every now and again, but I don't use it often, and keep it unistalled.
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I used SPB for weeks. It is the biggest battery drain I've ever had on my phone. The day I stopped using it was the day my battery life came back up to normal. I still keep it to show off my phone every now and again, but I don't use it often, and keep it unistalled.
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Weird. My battery life between SPB and stock launcher is about the same. What was the last version you had installed? I do know the earlier builds of SPB were not near as good as these newer versions.
Their sites are down. I wonder if perhaps they are getting ready for a launch...
Can't wait for release!! Hopefully ill be the first to buy!
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I will look at this when I get home, I just wanted to join this thread as to not forget. I have SPB 3D Shell and for as much as I like it, it has to go, they can keep the $14.99. Cute when I have 5 apps, now I have 60+, phone is slow, sometimes freezes complety............I like the look and feel, but functionallity is more important.
For those that haven't seen the updates, TSF posted on 12/23 that they are in the commissioning phase which includes adding new features and fixing things that were found broken in the beta trials. No release date posted yet but sounds like it could be soon.
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I will look at this when I get home, I just wanted to join this thread as to not forget. I have SPB 3D Shell and for as much as I like it, it has to go, they can keep the $14.99. Cute when I have 5 apps, now I have 60+, phone is slow, sometimes freezes complety............I like the look and feel, but functionallity is more important.
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I must be lucky then cause I have way more than 60 apps on my phone and it runs smooth with SPB. Using the Supercharger script as well. Not sure if that has something to do with it.
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I must be lucky then cause I have way more than 60 apps on my phone and it runs smooth with SPB. Using the Supercharger script as well. Not sure if that has something to do with it.
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Supercharger script? Please school me? where/how do I get this?
I got pissed when trying to order pizza Friday night. Girl not only ordered pizza while I was still trying to get to the app, she got verification call back!!!
Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
I was able to get better wallpaper using zedge on the market. It doesnt zoom in like selecting from folder.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Ok I got my Gnote yesterday at BestBuy(upgraded from my skyrocket). When I got home to play with it it seemed to drag a$$ and was pretty choppy, almost like it was pushing it limits on memory or something. I restarted the phone but no help. Next I downloaded golauncher thinking it would help but no luck.
I’ve also noticed that whenever I select wallpaper it zooms all the way in on the pic (which looks like crap) and it doesn’t scroll. I’ve tried everything. Help me XDA
I hope there’s a simple fix for all these issues my phone is having. My skyrocket was flawless. Hell my infuse don’t seem too bad now.
Video quality isn’t that great either. What gives Samsung?????
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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Actually read other reviews before inferring that all notes have performance comparable to yours - mine is hardcore fast. No lag, no stutters, no nothing but performance. Download some appstore apps to monitor background processes and see if there is a rogue something running. That, or you may have a faulty device.
Coming from an Atrix, SGS2, Skyrocket, Droid Razr, and International Galaxy Note this is the smoothest phone I've ever owned. Only issue I have is getting calendar to sync with Google calendars.
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Well ACTUALLY I was only speaking of my note... If you took the time to read my post before rudley trying to correct me!!!
Also thank you for your help in this matter...
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Mine is running the same way. Checking memory usage it is definitely pushing its limits. I'm at 557mb right now. Hoping it's just this rom and when we have development it'll improve.
Either way, I love this phone. I've had no issues with camera or video quality.
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But how is it that we're the only 2 ppl with lag out of all the new notes that came out???
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Mine was lagging really bad as well... at least with the tw launcher. I dl go launcher with the ICS theme and its slightly faster but still lagging
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Are all of you closing down your background apps and/or running on power saver mode?
There is no reason you should be that laggy.
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I have not Seen any Lag Unless I Use a Launcher. othcr than that Seems to Be just as Smooth as my Skyrocket.
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
Actually my note is kinda "laggy, sluggish, choppy" as well. I'm kind of a sad man right now, I still LOVE this thing but it's performance is not all that great at the moment for me.
Not entirely sure why either...I tried a few launcher none make it better and some make it worse.
grrr...
what kind of Lag. I have only Seen It while Using a Launcher. It actually Is JUST as Smooth as my Skyrocket when right next to it .
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Same here. very dissapointed. Its slower than my infuse, but then my infuse is running a custom rom.
Worst example by far is the market. load it up and scroll up and down, soooo choppy and laggy. starting to think I might have made a mistake not getting the international. I'm really surprized.
I'm sure once I overclock it and toss launcher pro on it I will be happier, I'm just really surprized that I have to do that.
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Really strange. I am completely stock right now with all the bloat still installed, microbes live wallpaper, and I just tried this in the market and get no lag whatsoever.
I went to the AT&T store and the Note was laggy. I killed background tasks, eliminated widgets, removed bloatware... nothing
I really like the screen size + google maps navigation but I'm not good at rooting so I've gotta see if this lag stuff continues on stock before taking the plunge.
Hmm :/ I'll take a video of it tomorrow. All power saving options are off, nothing much running in the background. Maybe I should take it into an ATT store and compare it side by side to the ones on display.
I'm glad most others aren't having this problem, that means its something that can get fixed or replaced rather than just being an underpowered processor for the resolution of the screen.
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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Factory reset if laggy. There really should be no lag, go try another note and trade in. When i get mine next week, ill be sitting there all day making sure it responds well, if not ill argue. Edit: ok there may be a little but it can not be worse then my infuse lol.
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I've just spent the last 24 hours trying to customize my gnote. now u say hard reset may fix my problem... has anyone tried this yet?
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Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
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^Somebody needs to get laid STAT!
I'm absolutely willing to do all of that, and I will, but going from a captivate, to an infuse, to this, and having it be the slowest out of the box when the other two were single core just strikes me as not right. And with others stating that they don't have this issue, makes me think there must be something going on here. Before I mask the problem with the OC kernel and a new launcher I'd rather know that there isn't something wrong with my specific note.
Glad the lag doesn't bother you
imitenotbecrazy said:
Its a new device with a new processor... Its funny to me how much people are seriously complaining and stressing about "lag". You guys do know the international one had a bunch of "lag" when it came out right? Its a new device that will see updates to its system that help improve UI. **** if you arent willing to get your hands dirty and root/freeze apps/rom the thing, what are you doing on a developers site?? Its not the phones problem, its your unreasonable expectations. Ask international note owners from day 1 if they had "lag". How many *****y My PHONE IS LAGGING threads do we need? If you hate it and arent willing to go through the process of improving it yourself, return it and wait a few months.
Oh and have a nice day
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Just installed the MIUI Beta and I am LOVING this ROM! My absolute favorite so far. It's smooth, my battery seems to be holding good. No FC's yet. The look and feel is great! Good job devs!
Few questions though. How do I delete individual notifications? No (X) next to then, and I tried to swipe them to delete, but nothing. Also, on the lock screen, if I drag over the camera, it doesnt open the camera, just goes to the home screen.
Other than that it's amazing! Thanks guys!
Have you tried cm7?
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Have you tried cm7?
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Lol. U r the man. Forget beating around the bush, recruit em straight outta( where ever).... cm is the way to go broski... I have never tried miui, and after cm I don't want to. In comparison this rom has bugs the developer cannot really help... look into it. Dude(ace) is good... but the Arabs (pure assumption) aren't very helpful with debugging. And I heard that its not open source so .....
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Lol. U r the man. Forget beating around the bush, recruit em straight outta( where ever).... cm is the way to go broski... I have never tried miui, and after cm I don't want to. In comparison this rom has bugs the developer cannot really help... look into it. Dude(ace) is good... but the Arabs (pure assumption) aren't very helpful with debugging. And I heard that its not open source so .....
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I thought the source code had been released a month ago?
I've no clue how to solve the camera problem. It's been so long since I've been on miui. Get widget locker and that problem will go away as you can customize what happens when you drag the unlock icon in a particular direction.
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Just installed the MIUI Beta and I am LOVING this ROM! My absolute favorite so far. It's smooth, my battery seems to be holding good. No FC's yet. The look and feel is great! Good job devs!
Few questions though. How do I delete individual notifications? No (X) next to then, and I tried to swipe them to delete, but nothing. Also, on the lock screen, if I drag over the camera, it doesnt open the camera, just goes to the home screen.
Other than that it's amazing! Thanks guys!
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cant clear individual in Gingerbread based MIUI. hit clear and it clears all. its all or nothin. idk about the camera currently running cm7 until i get my rezound on thurs...
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I thought the source code had been released a month ago?
I've no clue how to solve the camera problem. It's been so long since I've been on miui. Get widget locker and that problem will go away as you can customize what happens when you drag the unlock icon in a particular direction.
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Idk I had to say heard cuz of unsureness.
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I just came from CM7. Didn't like it much. Too glitchy and just didn't like the overall look and feel. I had Eclipse before and that was my favorite until now. Just too many issues with CM7
- dock shortcuts would seem time change or dissapear on their own. Like I would boot up and there would be a star where the browser used to be. Or where the app drawer shortcut was. One time I pressed the browser button and ALL of my dock icons dissappeared.
- Widgets sometimes would be invisible. I could long press them where they should have been and it would let me delete them or move them. But they wouldn't show up.
- I had it in my dock and it showed it was plugged in and charging. Had like 95% battery when I plugged in. Woke up to a dead phone. 0% battery. Even if it wasn't charging, it would have made it through the night on 95%
And just some other weird stuff. Just didn't like it much. Sorry. I even tried wiping and reflashing. Still basically the same.
MIUI is running stable so far. And I love the look and feel.
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I just came from CM7. Didn't like it much. Too glitchy and just didn't like the overall look and feel. I had Eclipse before and that was my favorite until now. Just too many issues with CM7
- dock shortcuts would seem time change or dissapear on their own. Like I would boot up and there would be a star where the browser used to be. Or where the app drawer shortcut was. One time I pressed the browser button and ALL of my dock icons dissappeared.
- Widgets sometimes would be invisible. I could long press them where they should have been and it would let me delete them or move them. But they wouldn't show up.
- I had it in my dock and it showed it was plugged in and charging. Had like 95% battery when I plugged in. Woke up to a dead phone. 0% battery. Even if it wasn't charging, it would have made it through the night on 95%
And just some other weird stuff. Just didn't like it much. Sorry. I even tried wiping and reflashing. Still basically the same.
MIUI is running stable so far. And I love the look and feel.
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If I recall the camera doesn't link or work right or something....I might still have a couple camera apks that worked for me if I remember correctly...of course no guarantees...I will look and see if I have them and will repost if I do with them attached
View attachment com.miui.camera-1.apk
View attachment MiuiCamera-1.apk
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The camera works fine. Just the lockscreen link to it doesn't.
12vnstallr said:
The camera works fine. Just the lockscreen link to it doesn't.
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Ahh...ok I think that was a known issue if I remember correctly
The first apks is from the photon, if I am not mistaken, which I liked and used on miui and had much better luck with all the way around.
Maybe will help maybe not *shrugs*
Wow, I must say, I am surprised someone would choose a mui port over the Eclipse Rom. I have been running eclipse 2.1 for over a month now with v6SuperCharger and bloat removed, and this thing flies, no problems at all and the battery life is fantastic.
rbgCODE said:
Wow, I must say, I am surprised someone would choose a mui port over the Eclipse Rom. I have been running eclipse 2.1 for over a month now with v6SuperCharger and bloat removed, and this thing flies, no problems at all and the battery life is fantastic.
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The OP might've never tried Eclipse or any other ROM for that matter.
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ITT: ROM **** sizing and people who don't read. OP said he tried both eclipse and CM, guys. Let's all try to remember everyone has different preferences people! I personally loved MIUI and it's notifications, but overall it was too buggy for me to use as a DD on the DX2.
Tried it out on my brother's DX and it was MUCH better, so I'm hoping Ace will have an update for us sooner or later, althought much like DZK he's busy as well (IIRC he just recently lost his job after moving so that's taken priority numero uno).
As far as this:
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Dude(ace) is good... but the Arabs (pure assumption) aren't very helpful with debugging. And I heard that its not open source so .....
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SMH. You should read up more on MIUI, and TRY IT, before you put out your opinions/"assumptions." MIUI was created by Xiaomi Tech, a Chinese firm (dunno wtf you got arabs..), so it's not just some random dev's collaborating, but an actual company putting out the ROM for usage in handsets in Asia that got picked up by the rest of the Android community. And as far as open source, they announced back in February of this year that they were going to begin opensourcing their applications and ROM, which you can see over at their GitHub (google it..).
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ITT: ROM **** sizing and people who don't read. OP said he tried both eclipse and CM, guys. Let's all try to remember everyone has different preferences people! I personally loved MIUI and it's notifications, but overall it was too buggy for me to use as a DD on the DX2.
Tried it out on my brother's DX and it was MUCH better, so I'm hoping Ace will have an update for us sooner or later, althought much like DZK he's busy as well (IIRC he just recently lost his job after moving so that's taken priority numero uno).
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SMH. You should read up more on MIUI, and TRY IT, before you put out your opinions/"assumptions." MIUI was created by Xiaomi Tech, a Chinese firm (dunno wtf you got arabs..), so it's not just some random dev's collaborating, but an actual company putting out the ROM for usage in handsets in Asia that got picked up by the rest of the Android community. And as far as open source, they announced back in February of this year that they were going to begin opensourcing their applications and ROM, which you can see over at their GitHub (google it..).
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And fwiw the Chinese own the **** out of us when it comes to phone development. I believe they're responsible for a couple bootloader unlocks and gaining root access to the original x.
MIUI is pretty sweet; It was the first rom is successfully flashed and man I had a field day with it up until you tube....
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Thanks thelowend. Yes I have tried Eclipse, and as I said it was my favorite. But MIUI is really cool. I think I like it because its so different. And everything seems so integrated. Like the notifications, I love how It gives a place for a reply right in the notification! That rocks! It just looks and feels more refined.
I am finding a few more bugs. Like Youtube not working, or any streaming video for that matter. Even some of my saved vids on the SD card dont want to play. And I can't record video either. All freeze after about 2 seconds of play/recording.
So far that is the biggest turn-off for me. I use youtube allll the time. Anyone know if they are working on this? I even tried the mobile site, and neither that or the app work.
Eclipse had its glitches too. But both are very good ROMs.
Oh one other glitch that really bugged me from CM7 is gapps kept FC'ing after a while and I would need to un-install and re-install it every so often.
Skelente said:
ITT: ROM **** sizing and people who don't read. OP said he tried both eclipse and CM, guys. Let's all try to remember everyone has different preferences people! I personally loved MIUI and it's notifications, but overall it was too buggy for me to use as a DD on the DX2.
Tried it out on my brother's DX and it was MUCH better, so I'm hoping Ace will have an update for us sooner or later, althought much like DZK he's busy as well (IIRC he just recently lost his job after moving so that's taken priority numero uno).
As far as this:
SMH. You should read up more on MIUI, and TRY IT, before you put out your opinions/"assumptions." MIUI was created by Xiaomi Tech, a Chinese firm (dunno wtf you got arabs..), so it's not just some random dev's collaborating, but an actual company putting out the ROM for usage in handsets in Asia that got picked up by the rest of the Android community. And as far as open source, they announced back in February of this year that they were going to begin opensourcing their applications and ROM, which you can see over at their GitHub (google it..).
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Um jerk. I said I didn't know...
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12vnstallr said:
Thanks thelowend. Yes I have tried Eclipse, and as I said it was my favorite. But MIUI is really cool. I think I like it because its so different. And everything seems so integrated. Like the notifications, I love how It gives a place for a reply right in the notification! That rocks! It just looks and feels more refined.
I am finding a few more bugs. Like Youtube not working, or any streaming video for that matter. Even some of my saved vids on the SD card dont want to play. And I can't record video either. All freeze after about 2 seconds of play/recording.
So far that is the biggest turn-off for me. I use youtube allll the time. Anyone know if they are working on this? I even tried the mobile site, and neither that or the app work.
Eclipse had its glitches too. But both are very good ROMs.
Oh one other glitch that really bugged me from CM7 is gapps kept FC'ing after a while and I would need to un-install and re-install it every so often.
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No problem. Video play back was always odd for me on miui; there were certain sites were streaming would work perfectly and then there were ones that just never worked.
Nothing beats miui when it comes to customization
I think there was an update to the youtube app last month that enable you to stream videos from it.
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Iincludes easter eggs, videos to show to people to show off screen, certain apps, anything.
I found out I can make calls
adrynalyne said:
I found out I can make calls
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Really?!? That's awesome! Do I need root?
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wpsantennas said:
Really?!? That's awesome! Do I need root?
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Nah, it works on stock. I think its a bonus feature for having battery life
adrynalyne said:
Nah, it works on stock. I think its a bonus feature for having battery life
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Wtf my doesnt do this
"The depressing thing about tennis is that no matter how good I get, I'll never be as good as a wall."
adrynalyne said:
I found out I can make calls
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Glad to see you got one.
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Glad to see you got one.
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
...it can be a great ping pong paddle
adrynalyne said:
It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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i think you mean "it remains to be seen whether i can keep away from it or not though."
Cdoan34 said:
i think you mean "it remains to be seen whether i can keep away from it or not though."
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Possibly
It's very very light....I forget I have it in my pocket sometimes, and its apparently really water resistant. I spilled on myself, while it was in my pocket T_T
Just got mine today and I already lrn'd2root
Not only does mine make calls.... but people can actually dial a special number and call me!!!
Most people don't seem to be all that impressed by it, but these are non tech lovers. They look at it and are like "oh. . . it's pretty". I don't think there is anything I could show them on the screen that would impress them much.
adrynalyne said:
It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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Keep it adryn!!!! pu pu please! we need all the dev love we can get!!! I for one will appreciate havign you around. But should you leave please drop a hint as to where you'll be headed
some cool things I have found out,
it may be old news for you, and some were mentioned in tech blog space before
1. during my call, i turned the phone face down and it automatically turn to speaker. which was mentioned by engadget and ac, but see it working and give convenience, it is a good fun.
2. go to settings->apps-> all, I can actually disable quite a number of pre-installed bloats, without root or any other hacks. this is awesome. for example, amazon, viewnidi, vz navigator, vz backup plus all those bs, i can disable them, without worrying that if it will fc later or cause trouble =).
oh, disabling those stuff can give me much lower memory usage, and improve battery life because many of them are running at the background.
Guess what Titanium Backup uses to freeze apps by default on Android 4.x. It just uses that Disable feature as far as I can tell.
A few times when I've pulled my phone out friends have mostly just commented on the size, but I don't go on about it with non-tech people usually. I try not to be too showy.
As for cool stuff to do with it, it's really kind of gotten me in to digging in and finding mods to do to it on my own. I haven't really done that so much on my previous phones; only relied on pre-done mods, like I got the recent apps button to turn in to a menu button a good bit before anyone on the thread seemed to get it working, although a lot of the issues probably have to do with people using plain notepad, when better luck would probably be had with a "programmer's" notepad that'd probably load and save with UNIX style newlines.
Also, it gives quite a phone-bulge.
paulguy said:
Guess what Titanium Backup uses to freeze apps by default on Android 4.x. It just uses that Disable feature as far as I can tell.
A few times when I've pulled my phone out friends have mostly just commented on the size, but I don't go on about it with non-tech people usually. I try not to be too showy.
As for cool stuff to do with it, it's really kind of gotten me in to digging in and finding mods to do to it on my own. I haven't really done that so much on my previous phones; only relied on pre-done mods, like I got the recent apps button to turn in to a menu button a good bit before anyone on the thread seemed to get it working, although a lot of the issues probably have to do with people using plain notepad, when better luck would probably be had with a "programmer's" notepad that'd probably load and save with UNIX style newlines.
Also, it gives quite a phone-bulge.
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Certain apps/processes can't be disabled in stock Android, but TiBu let's me freeze them.
Honestly Youtube has to be the most impressive thing you can show anyone... the HD quality over 4g is simply great and then they try to load the same video on their apple crap and it looks like 8 bit mario... just make sure its a newer video from within the last year or so or the quality will be horrid.
mainly because everyone has that app and can compare side by side... and be like wow
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Certain apps/processes can't be disabled in stock Android, but TiBu let's me freeze them.
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That's when you may run into problem.
Having root access and do stuff like that, will give unexpected drags in some apps which will affect your battery life or other functions.
For example if some functions or apps are providing system level service to others, and unfortunately if some applications uses them.. and you frozed them... then it is totally depending on the app developers' handling in such case.
either kept polling , or throwing exceptions, FCs etc.
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It remains to be seen whether I keep it or not though.
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Them sound like fightin words
Hey guys, I just got a Smart Dock for my i605. Got it for half off so I figured, why not? I'm running PAC-Man Rom and having a few issues. I'm beginning to think I need Touch Wiz to take full advantage, but I thought I'd ask.
1. When I put it in the dock, if the phone is fully booted into the rom, the phone will freeze and require a battery pull. However, if you reboot and wait for it to boot and then sit on the dock there is no issue.
2. I cannot get HDMI out to work, just gives a blank screen and says no media detected. Wife's S4 works so I know the dock is good.
Does anyone have suggestions or should I just dual boot TW and AOSP? Haven't tried OTG , yet, so I don't know if that works or not.
Thanks got any help!
OTG works on AOSP but the dock doesn't fully work yet, there was a request to the AOSP devs, like sbrissen, to try and add docking support but AFAIK it hasn't been added yet.
To get full use out of your dock like you want you'll have to be on TW.
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Thanks, thought as much. Might have to try dual booting, I guess.
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Thanks, thought as much. Might have to try dual booting, I guess.
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Don't take this the wrong way.....
But is using the dock that important? I mean you only got it cause it was half off so you had lived without it before..... I personally wouldn't up and switch back to TW or dual boot just for a dock if I was happy with AOSP.
The only real feature the dock offers that I would use would be the HDMI, I certainly would leave it beside my bed with the screen on line an alarm clock cause our phone is prone to screen burn.
I guess what I'm getting at is if the only reason you're considering dual booting or going back to TW is for the dock then that isn't the best reason, if you're unhappy on AOSP then sure I could see it.
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No I love AOSP. It's the way Android is meant to be experienced. I just would like to use the HDMI in the bedroom to stream video. Also, it's nice to just throw it on the dock and charge it, but if you forget to reboot the phone, you have a froze device.
You are absolutely right, I got it as some what of a novelty item. I don't need it, but wouldn't mind some of the features it offers.
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No I love AOSP. It's the way Android is meant to be experienced. I just would like to use the HDMI in the bedroom to stream video. Also, it's nice to just throw it on the dock and charge it, but if you forget to reboot the phone, you have a froze device.
You are absolutely right, I got it as some what of a novelty item. I don't need it, but wouldn't mind some of the features it offers.
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I'm right there with you, I would love to use one even though it is somewhat of a novelty.... I just don't know if I would want to give up on a great setup to do that. Each to his own, I just want you to think it through thoroughly before you do it. And remember dual booting is a good way to fill up your internal memory.
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I'm right there with you, I would love to use one even though it is somewhat of a novelty.... I just don't know if I would want to give up on a great setup to do that. Each to his own, I just want you to think it through thoroughly before you do it. And remember dual booting is a good way to fill up your internal memory.
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True that
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I prefer TW ROMS for the extra features and love the smart dock now that I have everything dialed. To each, his own though. Most TW ROMS are pretty close to AOSP, worth just enough TW to keep everything working. Definitely worth at least trying out if you already have one.
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I prefer TW ROMS for the extra features and love the smart dock now that I have everything dialed. To each, his own though. Most TW ROMS are pretty close to AOSP, worth just enough TW to keep everything working. Definitely worth at least trying out if you already have one.
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The TW Roms I have tried, and I've tried the vast majority, are nowhere close to AOSP. Running a theme isn't the same thing and having a few little tweaks that change the DPI definitely isn't close to PAs settings.
Each to their own with what they like but TWs features are definitely not worth staying for me, the only thing I ever used was the Spen and I can get back almost all the features, and then some that weren't there, with an app.
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For me, TW camera, smart dock and smart stay are easily enough to get me to stay on a TW based ROM. Beans did a great job on his ROM. Theming or not, I rarely miss anything from AOSP. Plus everything works! BEANS with Apex/Nova and I guarantee MOST people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
But hey, here's to having choices, right? OP can always nandroid back to his current rom, should he hate it.
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For me, TW camera, smart dock and smart stay are easily enough to get me to stay on a TW based ROM. Beans did a great job on his ROM. Theming or not, I rarely miss anything from AOSP. Plus everything works! BEANS with Apex/Nova and I guarantee MOST people wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
But hey, here's to having choices, right? OP can always nandroid back to his current rom, should he hate it.
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The TW camera is the only thing that I ever miss, however there are plenty of camera apps that one could use that are as good or better. For instance Camera FV-5.
As for Smart Stay, I honestly never used it because it never worked right for me. There are still other ways to get that back with apps that add similar functionality.
Like I said earlier the dock is nice, I don't own one but I have used one, but the only real awesome feature is HDMI. The rest are nothing special and can be accomplished in far better ways with other apps.
I disagree about Nova or Apex, TW goes far far beyond a launcher and pervades everything about the ROM. There are AOSP features, like per app DPI, that can be hacked onto a TW ROM but never work as well if they work at all.
There are certainly advantages to having a TW ROM but for some of us they aren't enough, perhaps when we get the 4.2.2 update and there are new features it may be good enough reason to go back.
Either way my comments were directed towards the OP who stated he preferred AOSP to TW, each of us prefer our own flavor of android and for me and the OP that's AOSP. If you love AOSP and dislike or hate TW you need to think long and hard before going back to TW for one feature that you've lived without, one that is a novelty for most of us like the Spen.
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I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
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I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
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I'm sure the OP has tried TW Roms, maybe not the latest but most of us flashed multiple before we went to AOSP.
While I agree the devs have done a great job there are some things that only work properly or perfectly on AOSP. And I don't know which Roms you have tried but Vanilla Rootbox has been perfectly stable for me, the only issue on the latest update is acore force closes but that issue wasn't there on 6-28, some of the Roms are rough but not all.
And a lot of us bought the phone for TW features and then found ways to implement the ones that matter in AOSP. I personally can stand how badly TW is bloated no matter what the devs do.
And while its easy to go back to a nandroid its always easier to stay on your setup that's working perfectly unless there is an excellent reason to switch.
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lhkjohn said:
I run multiple AOSP ROMS on my N7 and N10 and have been on multiple devices over the years and while I do love them, I really find them unusable on My Note 2 and Note 10.1. A lot of the reasons that I bought these devices are somewhat dependent on TW.
Personally, I feel like our devs have done a GREAT job of giving us ROMS that have the speed, battery life and customization of AOSP based ROMS (sure, not all), while keeping all of the functions that some of us like about TW.
OP was asking for opinions and i gave him mine. It also didn't seem like he had even tried out any of the TW ROMS yet, otherwise he would have a working dock. I also stated that he can always nandroid back to his current ROM if he hates it and all would be good. I mean, he already has the dock. Might as well see if it's something that would be worth switching.
Most of us here are crack flashers anyway, so it's just like trying another ROM. If you like it, keep it. If not, flash another.
Cheers!
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Oh yeah, I've tried them out. I actually flash every Beans that gets released. I guess part of me wants to love TW, or the features it entails. I kinda liked that Minitab thing that was going on, but just too laggy.
I don't know, maybe my gnex wrecked me, but I just love the simplicity and efficiency that AOSP is.
And thanks everyone, I enjoy the comments and suggestions.
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Oh yeah, I've tried them out. I actually flash every Beans that gets released. I guess part of me wants to love TW, or the features it entails. I kinda liked that Minitab thing that was going on, but just too laggy.
I don't know, maybe my gnex wrecked me, but I just love the simplicity and efficiency that AOSP is.
And thanks everyone, I enjoy the comments and suggestions.
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My same exact feeling for TW, I want to like it but no matter what it always turns out to be a bloated mess.... And then we have beautiful AOSP with its built in from the ground up mods that work seamlessly without having to install Xposed frameworks or having to hack the ROM apart and piece it back together. There is just something about AOSP.
Now if we could only find a Dev willing to port the TW framework for use like has been done on a few other Sammy phones! Then we'd have the best of both worlds.
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