I have searched the photon forums with no complete answer. Is there any way to unlock it to work with At&t.
Sprints past practice on world phones is for the GSM to be unlocked but to have the radios blocked for any US GSM carriers
Yes sprint had done that in the past.....but hopefully just as the TP2 was unlocked for us networks so will this badboy......where the heck is comnex or whatever her name is.....she was the wizard
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I have searched the photon forums with no complete answer. Is there any way to unlock it to work with At&t.
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I'd like to know as well.
(I'm always amused by people trying to go TO AT&T.. I guess if you have a family plan)
No US Sprint phone will EVER work on AT&T, TMobile, or Verizon... period. This is a timeless question with the same answer every time. Even if the phone supports International GSM... it doesn't support domestic GSM.. and will never
Uhm...why. please explain.
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A better question might be why unlock this phone for use on AT&T. I switched from AT&T to Sprint because Sprint is better. You should too.
Aside from Sprint being better
There are US communication laws. You'd think by now they would make a single phone and just put all GSM and CDMA frequencies in the same phone and be done with it... let it activate anywhere..
But carriers would never be able to keep a customer if they were flipflopping the signal of the moment. Sprint especially would never risk losing customers to another carrier.
The Photon's hardware does support the US GSM frequencies. I am sure at some point someone will figure out a way to reprogram the phone to get around not being able to register on domestic GSM carriers.
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Wrong. The HTC Touch Pro 2 was a int'l phone like the photon. It also had the US GSM carriers locked out. Eventually there WAS a hack that got the phone working with att et al.
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No US Sprint phone will EVER work on AT&T, TMobile, or Verizon... period. This is a timeless question with the same answer every time. Even if the phone supports GSM... it doesn't support domestic GSM.. and will never
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Just as the last user pointed out, you are incorrect. I personally Had a Sprint touch pro 2 which I used on both Tmobile and Att networks. You could simply make a few screen taps to get from network to network. There is no doubt that as the photon gets more popular the Devs will figure out an unlock.....
So does it mean that if it gets unlocked it will be able to work not only on at&t but with other carriers also?
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When Unlocking, always use unlocking codes. There are many sites providing unlocking codes. I had a personal experience in unlocking my BB 8900 phone from ClassicUnlocking.com which is a reliable service unlocks the phone within 30 minutes and also cheap.
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So does it mean that if it gets unlocked it will be able to work not only on at&t but with other carriers also?
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I am hoping so. My new wife is with AT&T and where we are going to live, Sprint's data is HORRIBLE. My 3G speed never exceeds 400 kbs where her 3G speeds will top 2100 kbps. Also, AT&T DOES have 4G in the neighborhood. So, I'm hoping to be able to pop her SIM card in and use the faster data once in a while, but still retain the unlimited (slow) data from Sprint.
So, unfortunately, there ARE reasons to choose AT&T over Sprint. Personally, I wish Sprint would improve their network.
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Umm...I've used my Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 with AT&T, Boost & GoPhone SIM's here in the US.
the sprint blackberry tour had a sim slot that when unlocked worked on tmobile/att. so sprint hasnt locked out EVERY gsm capable worldphone
any update on getting this to work with tmobile/att?
I am also looking for an answer to this. I am with AT&T and can't really move with Sprint at this point but I'd love to use Photon on AT&T
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I am also looking for an answer to this. I am with AT&T and can't really move with Sprint at this point but I'd love to use Photon on AT&T
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No luck for you. Still waiting on a magic fairy to give us a radio that unlocks domestic gsm.
I wouldn't hold your breath on GSM. you could always get an atrix if you are tied into a contract, same hardware essentially, I think most of us are pushing for custom roms like cm7 and a boot loader that doesn't loose 4g. I'm sure at some point it will happen on the photon.
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I was wondering if anyone knows how to put straight talk on a cdma android phone. Preferably a Droid Eris. Please any knowledge? Let this be a general question.
Not possible. Go to Howardforums.com and check out the straight talk forums. You need to use a straight talk phone. You might want to check out page plus cellular, they offer bring your own device on verizons network.
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Boost mobile isn't CDMA or GSM
It's IDEN (I think that's the acronym).
Wont work.
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Oh ok well what about boost mobile
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Boost mobile isn't CDMA or GSM
It's IDEN (I think that's the acronym).
Wont work.
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Wrong. Your information is out of date pko. Boost was bought out by Sprint a while back and uses both IDEN and CDMA. The CDMA part is now the actual Sprint network so from what I have heard on various other forums you can get any Sprint phone and run it on Sprint prepaid (Boost). They have an unlimited everything plan for $60/mo. Or better yet you can get a Sprint 450 minute plan for less and get unlimited texting and data I believe.
Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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I kind of have an idea but please email me the rouht u took
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just wondering.
if any one sucessfully "flashed" a vzw or spcs phone over to straight talk
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just wondering.
if any one sucessfully "flashed" a vzw or spcs phone over to straight talk
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I'm waiting for this to happen too.
Straight talk is just Verizon.
Just really cheap.
it won't happen. I have heard Straight-talk has an esn white-list of phones sold for Straight-talk. Phones not on the list can't access the network, even if the same model as a phone they sell. But if you are near wifi most of your day, page plus is a better deal anyway.
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it won't happen. I have heard Straight-talk has an esn white-list of phones sold for Straight-talk. Phones not on the list can't access the network, even if the same model as a phone they sell. But if you are near wifi most of your day, page plus is a better deal anyway.
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other than esn hacking then, this is impossible.
Darn.
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Well now I've got boost with full evdo network. Not 1xevdo full evdo. Anyone that wants to know how I did it I will tell you if I see a request I am tired of uptight people hiding and keeping secret thing that people wanna know.
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You are contributing to this problem and should go on your way.
Anyway who wants to be pm'd to share their methods is either selling something, spamming people, or simply a selfish person who has no business on a community forum.
not hackin more like clonin/donor
if i got a straight talk phone already. cant i just have that one as a donor for my evo 3d or my eris htc. i dont think im hacking since i own both evo3d and eris htc both with clean esn... and the straight talk one i own it to and its clean... is it more like modifying...right???????
if people want an Eris like phone on straight talk, just get the Samsung. Its better than the Eris anyway. Plus no hacking...
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if i got a straight talk phone already. cant i just have that one as a donor for my evo 3d or my eris htc. i dont think im hacking since i own both evo3d and eris htc both with clean esn... and the straight talk one i own it to and its clean... is it more like modifying...right???????
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You need a ST donor phone, yeah, but you should never turn it on or activate it, just need it for the MEID. if you already activated it you're SOL, need a new donor.
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Let me start off with saying, I have been screwed over by VZW far too many times to allow them to continue pliaging my pockets. I'm currently working on converting my Verizon (CDMA) Smart phones (HTC Incredible; 1st Gen Android; iPhone 4) over to straight talk.
Now for all you nay sayers, who, for the longest time have made claims that it can not be done; well I tell you it can. I know it's a cliche, but as people have said before, "where there's a will, there is a way!"
This will involve a very intimate understanding of all the mobile networks there are, and, the different networks Straight Talk uses. For anyone who is currently pondering the question "Can I flash/spoof, or otherwise get an AT&T phone on a CDMA network?" The answer is and always will be NO! This will never change. The only exception to the rule is the iPhone4s. This is due in part, to the fact the iPhone 4s was originally designed to be a world phone. This means that the iPhone 4s has the capabilities to switch to CDMA from GSM and vice versa.
If Straight Talk does have a white list of ESNs that have acess to the network, then that would be a tiny problem. I say tiny problem because it can be overcome. This comes down to legalities though. In order to get any CDMA phone (to include verizon phones) onto the straight talk network, you will first have to buy a Straight Talk (CDMA) smart phone. Next you'll have to unlock your current Verizon phone (or any other CDMA network phone, i.e. Sprint, Boost, etc.) from the current carrier. Then you'll need to spoof your IMEI and ESN to what ever your current Straight Talk phone's IMEI/ESN is. You should be able to find some software to assist with this, by doing a google search (specific site will follow in my next thread.
Spoofing both the IMEI and ESN are very important, as the ESN is unique to the IMEI. Essentially, you are fooling the network into thinking that the phone accessing the network is the one you bought from Straight Talk. Another reason for this is so that VZW never catches the on to what you're doing, considering they monitor the data usage of each phone on thier network. If they notice an IMEI from the phone previously on thier network, now with a new carrier who offers cheaper services, they will cut and block you from their network.
(The following thread is a concept in progress. If anyone else thinks they have another/easier way to do it, please feel free to comment)
All questions are welcome, however, if you lack a basic understanding of the cellular technology or the information flow through the mobile networks, I will probably ignore your question. (SO GOOGLE IT!)
Hint
Check this out. Search can be your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210240&highlight=straight+talk
GSM phones
I know this is old but just reading around thought id post, i just bought an atrix 2 online an at/t phone and got straight talk last week, and all you need is a GSM phone on bands 850 and 1900 mhz thru T-mobile at/t or unlocked and your good, they dont do cdma because it gets complicated if you use anyhing then the phones they sell. But i can report on my "4g'' phone which is HSPA+ i get 8mbp/s up and 2 mbp/s down in my area, so great service!
i'd suggest page plus - its also on the verizon network... nothing special needed, just a clean esn eris - call pageplus and they'll activate you for free, free $2 to get you started and then all you do is buy pins to refill service.
also, you can load cricket prl and some more to get cricket working...
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I know this is old but just reading around thought id post, i just bought an atrix 2 online an at/t phone and got straight talk last week, and all you need is a GSM phone on bands 850 and 1900 mhz thru T-mobile at/t or unlocked and your good, they dont do cdma because it gets complicated if you use anyhing then the phones they sell. But i can report on my "4g'' phone which is HSPA+ i get 8mbp/s up and 2 mbp/s down in my area, so great service!
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Wanna ask some stupid question, what is unlocked phone? If I buy, still can use in my country?
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My understanding is unlocking a phone only works for GSM phones as they use SIM cards. Unlocking it allows it to be used with other carriers on the GSM network. For a real example, I unlocked my wife's Samsung Captivate on AT&T and she gave it to her brother who was able to use it with T-Mobile. With CDMA phones, you don't unlock them. You have to flash certain things to the phone so it can be used with other CDMA carriers. Example, again, a real one, a guy at my work had an Evo 4G flashed to Metro PCS, however, I don't think he had 4G. To be honest, I think unlocking a phone is easier than flashing one to another carrier.
If anyone can elaborate further, please do.
EDIT: As for use in your country, that is outside my realm of knowledge. Never had to use a phone outside of the USA. Sorry, can't help there. By the way, where are you?
Yes. most other countries use GSM phones. Phones are usually locked to the carrier that sells them. Nowadays its very easy to unlock the sim. Once unlocked you should be able to insert any major carrier's sim card and phone should work just fine.
Unlocking bootloader and rooting phone is different than sim unlock.
They have a new device out, I don't know how well it works because I've never tried it but its out there:
http://www.dhgate.com/universal-sim...-cell/p-ff808081371757e4013726905fd16172.html
Also too, One way to unlock your phone for free in USA (I paid $9.00 for this information a long time ago) is call your phone company. Tell them that you'll be traveling abroad and need to Unlock your phone so you can use it over there.
They will email you the Unlock code for free after you give them your IEMI and serial number.
The method I used to unlock the Samsung Captivate was by rooting the phone and using a free app from the Market to give me the unlock code, which is now the Play Store, of course. All free. No phone calls made. Total of 20 minutes.
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My understanding is unlocking a phone only works for GSM phones as they use SIM cards. Unlocking it allows it to be used with other carriers on the GSM network. For a real example, I unlocked my wife's Samsung Captivate on AT&T and she gave it to her brother who was able to use it with T-Mobile. With CDMA phones, you don't unlock them. You have to flash certain things to the phone so it can be used with other CDMA carriers. Example, again, a real one, a guy at my work had an Evo 4G flashed to Metro PCS, however, I don't think he had 4G. To be honest, I think unlocking a phone is easier than flashing one to another carrier.
If anyone can elaborate further, please do.
EDIT: As for use in your country, that is outside my realm of knowledge. Never had to use a phone outside of the USA. Sorry, can't help there. By the way, where are you?
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Malaysian
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zcink said:
They have a new device out, I don't know how well it works because I've never tried it but its out there:
http://www.dhgate.com/universal-sim...-cell/p-ff808081371757e4013726905fd16172.html
Also too, One way to unlock your phone for free in USA (I paid $9.00 for this information a long time ago) is call your phone company. Tell them that you'll be traveling abroad and need to Unlock your phone so you can use it over there.
They will email you the Unlock code for free after you give them your IEMI and serial number.
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I think this is the best method for those who do not want to root. I'm not sure if the GSM Evo 3D is having the same HBOOT 1.5 issue that the CDMA folks are having.
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Yeah, I'm over here in the good ol' US of A. I know GSM is more prominent outside of here. GSM tends to have the fastest data speeds, but, CDMA has the best cellular coverage.
So I found someone I might trade my S4 for an HTC One, Its not unlocked but I know several places to unlock it, as I have AT&T.
How well does the T-Mobile HTC One work on AT&T are the correct 3G/HSPA+ bands there? Would LTE work?
100% fine.
Yes, T-Mobiles HTC has the bands for ATT so it will work great
I love my HTC One. I've seen my friend's S3's and this is by far a better device. And to me, the S4 is an overhyped S3 . Just saying
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100% fine.
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As simple as unlocking and sliding in the SIM?
TrueYears said:
Yes, T-Mobiles HTC has the bands for ATT so it will work great
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I'm leary of that. We all said the same about the Note2 but I can't get my Note 2 to get LTE service on ATT. Before I grab a TMo One, I'd like to see posts confirming it works out of the box.
Thanks.
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Its a good thing you will unlock it first thought
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As simple as unlocking and sliding in the SIM?
I'm leary of that. We all said the same about the Note2 but I can't get my Note 2 to get LTE service on ATT. Before I grab a TMo One, I'd like to see posts confirming it works out of the box.
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I have my Tmobile HTC One on At&t LTE right now and I have done a speed test reaching 35mbps. You do have to make sure your account has had a prior LTE device on the account or the device might only get 3G speeds. I told the phone rep to put my wife's unused HTC One X on my line and gave them the IMEI of that phone. The reason for this is because At&t does not have the Tmobile models in their database, so the only thing they can do is link your One to your line as a generic 3G device.
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distortedloop said:
As simple as unlocking and sliding in the SIM?
I'm leary of that. We all said the same about the Note2 but I can't get my Note 2 to get LTE service on ATT. Before I grab a TMo One, I'd like to see posts confirming it works out of the box.
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I have my Tmobile HTC One on At&t LTE right now and I have done a speed test reaching 35mbps. You do have to make sure your account has had a prior LTE device on the account or the device might only get 3G speeds. I told the phone rep to put my wife's unused HTC One X on my line and gave them the IMEI of that phone. The reason for this is because At&t does not have the Tmobile models in their database, so the only thing they can do is link your One to your line as a generic 3G device.
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Ah, that's good advice, and may explain my inability to get LTE on my Note 2. I've never owned an AT&T LTE phone, and never will. I guess picking up a TMo One with intention to unlock and use on AT&T is not going to work for me.
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I have my Tmobile HTC One on At&t LTE right now and I have done a speed test reaching 35mbps. You do have to make sure your account has had a prior LTE device on the account or the device might only get 3G speeds. I told the phone rep to put my wife's unused HTC One X on my line and gave them the IMEI of that phone. The reason for this is because At&t does not have the Tmobile models in their database, so the only thing they can do is link your One to your line as a generic 3G device.
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Your tip worked on my Note 2. Once I got ahold of an LTE devices IMEI to give the AT&T rep, they were able to provision my account for LTE and now no issues.
I just picked up a T-Mobile HT One to do the same thing with (I have accounts on TMo and ATT), but the sim unlocking service I usually use is having troubles giving me an unlock code. Weird.
i'm in the same boat but I want to root as well. I have the tmobile phone working on att i think but now do i use a rom from the tmobile section or from the att section? Does it even matter now?
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i'm in the same boat but I want to root as well. I have the tmobile phone working on att i think but now do i use a rom from the tmobile section or from the att section? Does it even matter now?
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You can root without changing the ROM.
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You can root without changing the ROM.
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Thank you. I do want to change roms though. does it matter if i use tmobile or att?
You're gonna need the correct ATT LTE Apn...this is the one I used to use on ATT when I was with them. Data and MMS working.
Same situation here: I bought a T-Mobile HTC one, unlocked it, took it to AT&T, and after a lot of wrestling with them got AT&T LTE and HSPA+ both working (you will need to make sure: your AT&T account is provisioned so your data plan is LTE-capable; you have an LTE-capable SIM card; you have endless patience to push AT&T to give you a 'dummy' IMEI in their database of an LTE-capable phone).
Here's my issue, though: it runs hot whenever the wifi OR the data are on. I'm wondering if it's because I'm running the T-Mobile radio (4A.14.3250.15_10.34.1150.02L) on AT&T's network.
I've been told Android phones "just run hot," or that heat is a product of a rogue application (so far, nothing seems to be running when it shouldn't). I am new to the forums so I can't post over in the development area yet.
Anyone have any thoughts on whether trying a different radio would address the heat issues? Any other heat-diagnosing tips?
Thanks in advance!
does anyone know if you can use the htc one tmobile version with at&t's dumbphone unlimited data plan?
bloggert said:
does anyone know if you can use the htc one tmobile version with at&t's dumbphone unlimited data plan?
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Why dont you get T-Mobiles $30 5Gb data plan? Or T-Mobiles $50 unlimited plan?
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Same situation here: I bought a T-Mobile HTC one, unlocked it, took it to AT&T, and after a lot of wrestling with them got AT&T LTE and HSPA+ both working (you will need to make sure: your AT&T account is provisioned so your data plan is LTE-capable; you have an LTE-capable SIM card; you have endless patience to push AT&T to give you a 'dummy' IMEI in their database of an LTE-capable phone).
Here's my issue, though: it runs hot whenever the wifi OR the data are on. I'm wondering if it's because I'm running the T-Mobile radio (4A.14.3250.15_10.34.1150.02L) on AT&T's network.
I've been told Android phones "just run hot," or that heat is a product of a rogue application (so far, nothing seems to be running when it shouldn't). I am new to the forums so I can't post over in the development area yet.
Anyone have any thoughts on whether trying a different radio would address the heat issues? Any other heat-diagnosing tips?
Thanks in advance!
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If you don't mind, would you share what sim unlocking service you used?
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Why dont you get T-Mobiles $30 5Gb data plan? Or T-Mobiles $50 unlimited plan?
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I can tell you why I am looking to go to ATT its because T-Mobiles coverage sucks. I have constant issues with their network.
Also when you think about it why would you offer a connection over wifi, shouldn't their phone work.
I bought a prepaid card just to test but I didn't connect to their LTE but I think its because they haven't provisioned it properly.
Time to go back again. I think I want to keep the HTC one because its a good phone can't see getting the S4.
Now att has next but still has the rate plans up there. I like t-mobiles pricing but ATT service is much better.
Find a nice AT&T Salesperson
I used to work at AT&T and i've just used a generic IMEI to provision LTE on a non AT&T phone. If you find a nice salesperson to help you they'll be able to look up a generic IMEI in the systaem for you. Its an internal tool they have to look up an IMEI for you. Hope this helps.
I currently have a Droid DNA through Verizon and would like to switch to Straight Talk. I see options for both AT&T and T-Mobile compatible SIM cards, and am curious which one I should go with. I live in the Houston area. I prefer not to have to cut the card but it's not a deal breaker.
In my area AT&T has much wider and more reliable data coverage. I was often on edge everywhere in my hometown while on T-Mobile. This may not be the case for Houston. Just test drive both networks for a month each.
Ah, excellent point. Should be cheap enough to try them both. Thanks!
I actually work in Electronics at Walmart and deal with this all the time. Straight Talk will not move 4G LTE phones to their service. They aren't compatible and do not have the agreements with carriers for LTE access. If you read the CDMA/GSM bring your own phone package that includes the SIM cards it says in bold writing LTE Phones are not compatible. The DNA would not be able to be used on Straight Talk because it is a LTE phone. Straight Talk has a list of approved devices on their website. Because you do have to provide your phones IMEI they will know it is a LTE phone and deny your request to activate the phone on their services.
Kutster, I hate to correct you but I actually did successfully connect my Droid DNA using the Walmart SIM card. Now in my area it was actually called FamilyMobile, and run by T-Mobile. I purchased a SIM card from Walmart, took it home, plugged it in, set up an account, and it worked. Granted, you don't get LTE, but it does work and is mega cheap ($40/mo unlimited). I ended up cancelling and taking it back, simply because the internet was very slow, and the coverage wasn't very good in my area (T-Mobile sucks in my area). I do want to stress though that it definitely does work! I think I'll try AT&T GoPhone next.
The important thing to remember is this phone (the DNA) has all the radios necessary to connect to just about anybody but Sprint's network. Don't always believe what the companies tell ya.
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Kutster, I hate to correct you but I actually did successfully connect my Droid DNA using the Walmart SIM card. Now in my area it was actually called FamilyMobile, and run by T-Mobile. I purchased a SIM card from Walmart, took it home, plugged it in, set up an account, and it worked. Granted, you don't get LTE, but it does work and is mega cheap ($40/mo unlimited). I ended up cancelling and taking it back, simply because the internet was very slow, and the coverage wasn't very good in my area (T-Mobile sucks in my area). I do want to stress though that it definitely does work! I think I'll try AT&T GoPhone next.
The important thing to remember is this phone (the DNA) has all the radios necessary to connect to just about anybody but Sprint's network. Don't always believe what the companies tell ya.
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I currently have a Droid DNA through Verizon and would like to switch to Straight Talk
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See that's where your terms and confusion of prepaid comes into play. Of course Family Mobile worked they don't have restrictions on LTE especially since Family Mobile is powered by T-mobile. Straight Talk which is the company I was referring to and the company you were referring to does has limitations on LTE phones, and will NOT allow any LTE phone to to brought to their service. This has to do with they license the use of multiple carriers towers.
Trust me I am not trying to be rude, but I honestly deal with this on a daily basis. You know how many Straight Talk bring your own phone kits I have had to refund because customers buy them for their nice Verizon LTE smartphones? It doesn't work. I am telling you from my experience and my countless hours on the phone with Straight Talk reps and on their website, what their policy is on LTE phones. I beg you to go to Walmart and look at the Straight Talk CDMA/GSM BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) kits that they sell for $60. In the middle of that package on the front it says something along the lines of "LTE Phones are not Compatible." Which like it reads means you cannot bring over a LTE phone to Straight Talk.
AT&T prepaid I would venture to guess would work, but I can't remember if AT&T is as picky as Verizon is about what smartphones get put on their prepaid plans. You would have to call and find out.
So once again, please keep in mind that every prepaid carrier is different, use different towers, and different policies. Just because it worked on one does not mean a different company has policies that differ or block that same practice.
I didn't realize StraightTalk and FamilyMobile were different. I just assumed that when I went to Walmart it was whatever they were using. I see now that StraightTalk is AT&T and FamilyMobile is T-Mobile. I only had the option for FamilyMobile at my Walmart. Thanks for the clarification.
I'm not going to disagree, but I will say that the FamilyMobile website also said my specific phone was not eligible, but it did in fact work. So to anyone else reading this, YMMV. Considering Walmart takes the card back for a full refund, I don't see a problem in at least attempting it (except that employees such as yourself have to deal with it ). It makes sense to me that there's no way for the carrier to enforce specific phones when they are SIM card based. So long as your phone has the radios that carrier operates on, it should work. My guess is that the LTE phones statement on the package is in reference to the fact that you won't get LTE speeds with that network.
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See that's where your terms and confusion of prepaid comes into play. Of course Family Mobile worked they don't have restrictions on LTE especially since Family Mobile is powered by T-mobile. Straight Talk which is the company I was referring to and the company you were referring to does has limitations on LTE phones, and will NOT allow any LTE phone to to brought to their service. This has to do with they license the use of multiple carriers towers.
Trust me I am not trying to be rude, but I honestly deal with this on a daily basis. You know how many Straight Talk bring your own phone kits I have had to refund because customers buy them for their nice Verizon LTE smartphones? It doesn't work. I am telling you from my experience and my countless hours on the phone with Straight Talk reps and on their website, what their policy is on LTE phones. I beg you to go to Walmart and look at the Straight Talk CDMA/GSM BYOP (Bring Your Own Phone) kits that they sell for $60. In the middle of that package on the front it says something along the lines of "LTE Phones are not Compatible." Which like it reads means you cannot bring over a LTE phone to Straight Talk.
AT&T prepaid I would venture to guess would work, but I can't remember if AT&T is as picky as Verizon is about what smartphones get put on their prepaid plans. You would have to call and find out.
So once again, please keep in mind that every prepaid carrier is different, use different towers, and different policies. Just because it worked on one does not mean a different company has policies that differ or block that same practice.
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Being an an LTE device wouldn't matter in this case since the LTE radio will only work on the CDMA side of the phone and with Verizon's LTE. It has UMTS and Straight Talk already confirmed with me the phone would get 3G while on their network. There's not a magic way of them detecting an LTE phone ( one that works on a CDMA carrier mind you) and flipping the off switch. The 2G and 3G networks are available for AT&T and T-Mobile regardless of which prepaid carrier you use.
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Being an an LTE device wouldn't matter in this case since the LTE radio will only work on the CDMA side of the phone and with Verizon's LTE. It has UMTS and Straight Talk already confirmed with me the phone would get 3G while on their network. There's not a magic way of them detecting an LTE phone ( one that works on a CDMA carrier mind you) and flipping the off switch. The 2G and 3G networks are available for AT&T and T-Mobile regardless of which prepaid carrier you use.
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Im not going to argue about it. When you go to activate a BYOP on Straight Talk you have to input the IMEI, which does tell Straight Talk if the phone is LTE capable or not and if it isn't eligible it will not allow you to activate the phone. Period. I hate done it and tried it. It isn't like ATT where you put in the SIM card and it is activated. You activate the phone IMEI and SIM card # with Straight Talk. That is how it works with BYOP.
@Impala Im glad you had luck getting Family Mobile working.
Uh, I'm currently using Straight Talk on my DNA with full HSPA+ capability, as are many others.
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Uh, I'm currently using Straight Talk on my DNA with full HSPA+ capability, as are many others.
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Exactly, ours is an LTE device so please tell us why it certainly does work on Straight Talk when you claim it doesn't.
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Exactly, ours is an LTE device so please tell us why it certainly does work on Straight Talk when you claim it doesn't.
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Also, Straight Talk just got support for AT&T LTE. So they're going to have to accept LTE devices?
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Yeah I just read up on that. I wonder if the DNA 700mhz band will work. I checked online and it shows AT&T as using the 700 bands as well (a,b,c) I'm assuming the new Sim they are selling enables the LTE?
Can anyone with the new Sim confirm LTE connectivity?
EDIT : looks like at&t is band 17 and Verizon is 13. The FCC is pushing for interoperability within the upper 700 but it looks as if the chipset controls which band LTE operates off of...damn. It would be sweet to get LTE on an unlimited prepaid plan.
Interesting. I wonder if GoPhone or anyone else that's AT&T related would work LTE wise?
So are you guys able to use gsm networks with the 2.06 firmware?
I'm using net10 (att) with my DNA with 2.04 firmware and I'm hesitant to update to 2.06 until I can confirm that the 2.06 update keeps gsm completely unlocked?
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So are you guys able to use gsm networks with the 2.06 firmware?
I'm using net10 (att) with my DNA with 2.04 firmware and I'm hesitant to update to 2.06 until I can confirm that the 2.06 update keeps gsm completely unlocked?
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I'm on 2.06 using a straight talk sim I can't get LTE speeds or even my signal to say LTE but I get H+ and max out at about 8mbps
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I'm on 2.06 using a straight talk sim I can't get LTE speeds or even my signal to say LTE but I get H+ and max out at about 8mbps
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Me too. Straight Talk claims LTE works for unlocked AT&T smartphones.
Hey everyone, I'm totally new to Straight Talk and GSM and the DNA being used somewhere besides Verizon. (I'm a long time VZ customer but read Android Police daily and am familiar with all things Android.) Anyways, I'm pretty clear on using the phone on Straight Talk, getting MMS and all that, my only question is, how do you go about getting OTA's? Since the phone technically is a Verizon phone, updates would come from them. While on Straight Talk can I throw a Verizon sim card in the phone, download the OTA. Then after completing the update, put back in my AT&T sim card. Or does HTC offer OTA downloads online?
How do you guys go about updating your phone? (OTA's obviously apply to non-rooted devices. I may or may not root it.)
Thanks for your help!
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Hey everyone, I'm totally new to Straight Talk and GSM and the DNA being used somewhere besides Verizon. (I'm a long time VZ customer but read Android Police daily and am familiar with all things Android.) Anyways, I'm pretty clear on using the phone on Straight Talk, getting MMS and all that, my only question is, how do you go about getting OTA's? Since the phone technically is a Verizon phone, updates would come from them. While on Straight Talk can I throw a Verizon sim card in the phone, download the OTA. Then after completing the update, put back in my AT&T sim card. Or does HTC offer OTA downloads online?
How do you guys go about updating your phone? (OTA's obviously apply to non-rooted devices. I may or may not root it.)
Thanks for your help!
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I just s-off my phone using moonshine and then there are some bone stock roms to flash. Apart from that I'm not sure, before soff I was looking for an ruu to flash but couldn't find an updated one
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I just s-off my phone using moonshine and then there are some bone stock roms to flash. Apart from that I'm not sure, before soff I was looking for an ruu to flash but couldn't find an updated one
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Thanks ac! That sounds like something I could do. I'm not too familiar with s-off, moonshine or HTC (the phone is my wife's. I'm a nexus guy) but I may have to look into that. Anybody else out there with any ideas?
The M9 is the first HTC phone I have ever owned that does not work in Canada, at all.
The evo, evo 3d, m7, and m8 all worked flawlessly in canada. The m9 gets no signal. I called support and they also sent me to international support, and neither was able to get it working. Obviously roaming is enabled, as well as international voice. Still no signal whatsoever. I then went into *#*#4636#*#* menu and tried changing the preferred network type to every possible option. On the GSM options, the phone would actually get a signal, but whenever you attempt to make a call it just drops immediately.
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The M9 is the first HTC phone I have ever owned that does not work in Canada, at all.
The evo, evo 3d, m7, and m8 all worked flawlessly in canada. The m9 gets no signal. I called support and they also sent me to international support, and neither was able to get it working. Obviously roaming is enabled, as well as international voice. Still no signal whatsoever. I then went into *#*#4636#*#* menu and tried changing the preferred network type to every possible option. On the GSM options, the phone would actually get a signal, but whenever you attempt to make a call it just drops immediately.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
deakelem said:
interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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Found this info over on s4gru:
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/
the One M9 was not tested, thus is not authorized for domestic GSM/W-CDMA bands. Rabid phone unlockers under the new Sprint domestic unlocking policy, consider yourselves forewarned.
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interesting... i will be up there next weekend. I will report back to see if i have the same issue. We can get a second opinion on this.
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6910-htc-one-m9-user-thread/?view=findpost&p=418575
Vis a vis wireless, traveling to Canada has now become almost no different from traveling to the UK. You need a GSM/W-CDMA capable handset -- because Bell and Telus were basically asshats in preemptively ditching CDMA2000 for GSM/W-CDMA, circa 2008. My understanding is that the CDMA2000 network now is almost entirely shut down, and Sprint has removed CDMA1X/EV-DO roaming from its latest PRLs.
Regardless, if you care about RF capabilities in your flagship handset, do not take anything for granted. You should always read our FCC OET article before making a purchase. And we typically publish within a day or two of the FCC OET authorization going online, thus usually weeks before the handset hits stores.
I have to assume that you did not read our article on the HTC One M9. We devoted an entire paragraph to its lack of domestic GSM/W-CDMA bands (i.e. GSM 850/1900 and bands 2/4/5 W-CDMA).
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...rock-out-with-their-flagships-for-the-season/
AJ
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m03sizlak said:
CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/6910-htc-one-m9-user-thread/?view=findpost&p=418575
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I would have to assume that no one on the planet aside from him and two other nerds read their article on the HTC M9. How many people read the dry ass articles of s4Gru? I used to be a member back when I was tracking LTE implementation for Sprint in Sacramento but I haven't looked back since. I don't like paying just to read a forum site about back hauls, transponders and flux capacitors. Sh!t I could barely suffer through the GSM/M-CDMA#4636#* in this thread.
Bummer the phone don't work in Canada though.
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CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
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So it's HTC/Sprint's fault you didn't do your homework or think to ask them if the Sprint M9 variant could roam in a foreign country?
Sell the damn thing on swappa already.
It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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Damn thing won't even roam Data in NH, let alone Canada.
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It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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I retract my comment - (though both OP and I are on S4GRU and have been for some time) - as I just got off a chat with Sprint Worldwide support where they said the M9 is an international phone entirely capable of roaming voice and data in Canada. I'm asking on S4GRU how Sprint can make that claim when OPs experience is obviously different.
Wondering if this is all related to the issues the phone is having with data in general...
It's roaming just fine in Canada. Check the screen shots.
I am in Toronto now.
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I am in Toronto now.
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I guess it's time to remove the confirmed tag then.
lol...I was in several countries in the Caribbean 10 days ago & roamed np...yes, not in Ca but verified WCDMA worked fine
So... not confirmed that there is no Canada roaming. That's a relief if it does actually work in Canada. I would not want to travel up there just to find out I can't use my phone.
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It's roaming just fine in Canada. Check the screen shots.
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This is a Sprint phone? I wasn't aware that Sprint roams on CAN Rogers.
jkcarp94 said:
This is a Sprint phone? I wasn't aware that Sprint roams on CAN Rogers.
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Yes, this is Sprint phone.
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Yes, this is Sprint phone.
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OP's contention was that it would show roaming but he was unable to complete a call - I'm guessing your experience was different?
Were you able to make/receive calls and use data?
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OP's contention was that it would show roaming but he was unable to complete a call - I'm guessing your experience was different?
Were you able to make/receive calls and use data?
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Yes, I was able to make and receive phone calls. I was also able to send and receive texts as well as use data.
m03sizlak said:
CONFIRMED. The Sprint m9 lacks the neccessary radio bands to work in Canada! The more I use this phone the more I hate it.
Untrue. It can roam in Canada.
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It's Sprint's fault for selling a brand new flagship phone that can't roam in Canada. That's just plain stupid on Sprint's part, and they really should have known better.
I 1000% guarantee that if you were to walk into a Sprint store and ask about that new HTC One M9 and if you'd be able to roam in Canada, you would receive a "yes" answer every time. They'd even tell you about Sprint's cool discount roaming plans for Canada. Do not blame someone for not "doing their homework" when really only people with an intimate knowledge of the situation and who read s4gru (0.1% of Sprint's customers, if that) would know about this. This is on Sprint.
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It can roam in Canada. Was just there.
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I am in Toronto now.
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I was also there two weeks ago. I meant to post back because I mentioned id be going there and I roamed perfectly fine.