Wanna ask some stupid question, what is unlocked phone? If I buy, still can use in my country?
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My understanding is unlocking a phone only works for GSM phones as they use SIM cards. Unlocking it allows it to be used with other carriers on the GSM network. For a real example, I unlocked my wife's Samsung Captivate on AT&T and she gave it to her brother who was able to use it with T-Mobile. With CDMA phones, you don't unlock them. You have to flash certain things to the phone so it can be used with other CDMA carriers. Example, again, a real one, a guy at my work had an Evo 4G flashed to Metro PCS, however, I don't think he had 4G. To be honest, I think unlocking a phone is easier than flashing one to another carrier.
If anyone can elaborate further, please do.
EDIT: As for use in your country, that is outside my realm of knowledge. Never had to use a phone outside of the USA. Sorry, can't help there. By the way, where are you?
Yes. most other countries use GSM phones. Phones are usually locked to the carrier that sells them. Nowadays its very easy to unlock the sim. Once unlocked you should be able to insert any major carrier's sim card and phone should work just fine.
Unlocking bootloader and rooting phone is different than sim unlock.
They have a new device out, I don't know how well it works because I've never tried it but its out there:
http://www.dhgate.com/universal-sim...-cell/p-ff808081371757e4013726905fd16172.html
Also too, One way to unlock your phone for free in USA (I paid $9.00 for this information a long time ago) is call your phone company. Tell them that you'll be traveling abroad and need to Unlock your phone so you can use it over there.
They will email you the Unlock code for free after you give them your IEMI and serial number.
The method I used to unlock the Samsung Captivate was by rooting the phone and using a free app from the Market to give me the unlock code, which is now the Play Store, of course. All free. No phone calls made. Total of 20 minutes.
saboxerman said:
My understanding is unlocking a phone only works for GSM phones as they use SIM cards. Unlocking it allows it to be used with other carriers on the GSM network. For a real example, I unlocked my wife's Samsung Captivate on AT&T and she gave it to her brother who was able to use it with T-Mobile. With CDMA phones, you don't unlock them. You have to flash certain things to the phone so it can be used with other CDMA carriers. Example, again, a real one, a guy at my work had an Evo 4G flashed to Metro PCS, however, I don't think he had 4G. To be honest, I think unlocking a phone is easier than flashing one to another carrier.
If anyone can elaborate further, please do.
EDIT: As for use in your country, that is outside my realm of knowledge. Never had to use a phone outside of the USA. Sorry, can't help there. By the way, where are you?
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Malaysian
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zcink said:
They have a new device out, I don't know how well it works because I've never tried it but its out there:
http://www.dhgate.com/universal-sim...-cell/p-ff808081371757e4013726905fd16172.html
Also too, One way to unlock your phone for free in USA (I paid $9.00 for this information a long time ago) is call your phone company. Tell them that you'll be traveling abroad and need to Unlock your phone so you can use it over there.
They will email you the Unlock code for free after you give them your IEMI and serial number.
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I think this is the best method for those who do not want to root. I'm not sure if the GSM Evo 3D is having the same HBOOT 1.5 issue that the CDMA folks are having.
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Yeah, I'm over here in the good ol' US of A. I know GSM is more prominent outside of here. GSM tends to have the fastest data speeds, but, CDMA has the best cellular coverage.
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I have searched the photon forums with no complete answer. Is there any way to unlock it to work with At&t.
Sprints past practice on world phones is for the GSM to be unlocked but to have the radios blocked for any US GSM carriers
Yes sprint had done that in the past.....but hopefully just as the TP2 was unlocked for us networks so will this badboy......where the heck is comnex or whatever her name is.....she was the wizard
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I have searched the photon forums with no complete answer. Is there any way to unlock it to work with At&t.
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I'd like to know as well.
(I'm always amused by people trying to go TO AT&T.. I guess if you have a family plan)
No US Sprint phone will EVER work on AT&T, TMobile, or Verizon... period. This is a timeless question with the same answer every time. Even if the phone supports International GSM... it doesn't support domestic GSM.. and will never
Uhm...why. please explain.
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A better question might be why unlock this phone for use on AT&T. I switched from AT&T to Sprint because Sprint is better. You should too.
Aside from Sprint being better
There are US communication laws. You'd think by now they would make a single phone and just put all GSM and CDMA frequencies in the same phone and be done with it... let it activate anywhere..
But carriers would never be able to keep a customer if they were flipflopping the signal of the moment. Sprint especially would never risk losing customers to another carrier.
The Photon's hardware does support the US GSM frequencies. I am sure at some point someone will figure out a way to reprogram the phone to get around not being able to register on domestic GSM carriers.
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No US Sprint phone will EVER work on AT&T, TMobile, or Verizon... period. This is a timeless question with the same answer every time. Even if the phone supports International GSM... it doesn't support domestic GSM.. and will never
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Wrong. The HTC Touch Pro 2 was a int'l phone like the photon. It also had the US GSM carriers locked out. Eventually there WAS a hack that got the phone working with att et al.
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No US Sprint phone will EVER work on AT&T, TMobile, or Verizon... period. This is a timeless question with the same answer every time. Even if the phone supports GSM... it doesn't support domestic GSM.. and will never
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Just as the last user pointed out, you are incorrect. I personally Had a Sprint touch pro 2 which I used on both Tmobile and Att networks. You could simply make a few screen taps to get from network to network. There is no doubt that as the photon gets more popular the Devs will figure out an unlock.....
So does it mean that if it gets unlocked it will be able to work not only on at&t but with other carriers also?
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When Unlocking, always use unlocking codes. There are many sites providing unlocking codes. I had a personal experience in unlocking my BB 8900 phone from ClassicUnlocking.com which is a reliable service unlocks the phone within 30 minutes and also cheap.
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So does it mean that if it gets unlocked it will be able to work not only on at&t but with other carriers also?
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I am hoping so. My new wife is with AT&T and where we are going to live, Sprint's data is HORRIBLE. My 3G speed never exceeds 400 kbs where her 3G speeds will top 2100 kbps. Also, AT&T DOES have 4G in the neighborhood. So, I'm hoping to be able to pop her SIM card in and use the faster data once in a while, but still retain the unlimited (slow) data from Sprint.
So, unfortunately, there ARE reasons to choose AT&T over Sprint. Personally, I wish Sprint would improve their network.
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No US Sprint phone will EVER work on AT&T, TMobile, or Verizon... period. This is a timeless question with the same answer every time. Even if the phone supports International GSM... it doesn't support domestic GSM.. and will never
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Umm...I've used my Verizon HTC Touch Pro 2 with AT&T, Boost & GoPhone SIM's here in the US.
the sprint blackberry tour had a sim slot that when unlocked worked on tmobile/att. so sprint hasnt locked out EVERY gsm capable worldphone
any update on getting this to work with tmobile/att?
I am also looking for an answer to this. I am with AT&T and can't really move with Sprint at this point but I'd love to use Photon on AT&T
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I am also looking for an answer to this. I am with AT&T and can't really move with Sprint at this point but I'd love to use Photon on AT&T
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No luck for you. Still waiting on a magic fairy to give us a radio that unlocks domestic gsm.
I wouldn't hold your breath on GSM. you could always get an atrix if you are tied into a contract, same hardware essentially, I think most of us are pushing for custom roms like cm7 and a boot loader that doesn't loose 4g. I'm sure at some point it will happen on the photon.
i have a sensation on bell and my buddy wants it. he wants it so much he is willing to trade his early upgrade 4 my sensation. ive already unlocked the sensation and its working great on rogers. my question is now can i unlock the rogers evo3d to work on the bell network? perferably thru a hack or loophole over actually paying
Yea its the same bands you will just have to unlock the phone to work with all carriers ......this has nothing to do with the HTC unlock ......this is strictly a carrier unlock .....most small cell shops can do this
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Yea its the same bands you will just have to unlock the phone to work with all carriers ......this has nothing to do with the HTC unlock ......this is strictly a carrier unlock .....most small cell shops can do this
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i unlocked my sensation by rooting and using s-off then sim unlocking. is this ossible on the evo without going to a celshop?
Yes it will work
I have a unlocked Rogers 3D on Telus..they use same network as Bell.
I paid $7.99 for my SIM unlock code...don't know if this is a good price? I got the code, in about 2 hours after I paid.
You do have to find out about the APN's and SMS proxy IP's etc to get data/MMS to work, but Telus has that info posted on there web site...I bet Bell does too, or at least somebody in a store will know, or be willing to let you look at their phone set up.
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i unlocked my sensation by rooting and using s-off then sim unlocking. is this ossible on the evo without going to a celshop?
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I got mine unlocked already but when I go into the bootloader there's an option that says "sim lock", so I suppose that you can unlock it after s-off.
I'm thinking of buying an htc evo view on amazon, but I need it to be unlocked, because I'm going to be living in mexico for a while, so I want to make sure that it will work with another network that isn't sprint. I couldn't really find any htc evo views that are unlocked, but this one http://www.amazon.com/HTC-EVO-View-...EMR6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327199558&sr=8-1 says it doesn't require a sprint account. Does this mean I can take it to mexico and get CDMA if the company of the network supports CDMA? It seems that Iusacell is the only company that supports CDMA in Mexico. Has anybody tried to get another network on it?
Sorry if i'm not using the cell phone network terminology correctly, im new to all this 3g, 4g stuff .
Edit: Ok, so i know now that I can unlock it in Mexico. So now my question is, if I buy this, will I not have to have a contract with sprint or anything?
There is no need for you to contact Sprint; I have an "unlocked" view that I use for business on Boost Mobile, and have not had any issues. Enjoy your new device!
Depends where and how you buy it...just read the ad, it will mention if it requires a contract or not. You just missed a one day sale for a no contract View for $230. Should be another one coming in a few weeks if you can wait. Keep an eye out here or on Slickdeals.net hot deals.
Since the View is a CDMA device, it can't be unlocked in the traditional sense that a GSM device can be unlocked. There is nothing to unlock. The only way to get it to work on a different carrier is if the carrier is willing to add it to their system (which most carriers will not do, although I can't speak for any carriers in Mexico), or if you can flash it to a different carrier. Many have successfully flashed it to Boost Mobile in the US like bigriggy63 said, but this isn't an option with most carriers. It's something you'd have to check into locally with the carrier you want to use.
The link you posted says it's with no Sprint contract, so there shouldn't be a contract. The View has been sold in multiple sales over the past few months for $230 - $300 without a Sprint contract. I've had one since the middle of the December, and I don't have, or never have had, Sprint service.
How would I go about unlocking my view for boost?
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How would I go about unlocking my view for boost?
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read in the forum topics!
good luck!
WiMAX connection
bsweetness said:
Since the View is a CDMA device, it can't be unlocked in the traditional sense that a GSM device can be unlocked. There is nothing to unlock. The only way to get it to work on a different carrier is if the carrier is willing to add it to their system (which most carriers will not do, although I can't speak for any carriers in Mexico), or if you can flash it to a different carrier. Many have successfully flashed it to Boost Mobile in the US like bigriggy63 said, but this isn't an option with most carriers. It's something you'd have to check into locally with the carrier you want to use.
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Dear members,
Hello.
Is it related to WiMAX providers as well?
Locally (Moscow) we have WiMAX provider. I failed to connect using my View.
View is not in their list. HTC MAX (Windows not Android) is in their list.
So let me ask two questions
1. Do I have chance to connect? Is it worth efforts?
2. What kind of information I should check woth local carrier ?
Thanks,
htc evo view 4g
Has anyone rooted HTC EVO view 4g
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There is no need for you to contact Sprint; I have an "unlocked" view that I use for business on Boost Mobile, and have not had any issues. Enjoy your new device!
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I was thinking of using pay as you go. How do you have yours plan set up? I read you can do 50 cents a day and get unlimited data. I haven't read anyone doing it though.
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johnson9203 said:
Has anyone rooted HTC EVO view 4g
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lol lots of us have.
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Dear EVO 4g LTE owners,
At the moment I own a Samsung Captivate, I imported it from the USA more then a year ago. I'm actually quite fed up with it, it has a lot of speed issues and other issues like randomly turning itself off.
I really want to have an EVO 4g LTE, but since they don't sell it in my country, I'm forced to buy it through eBay. I often see phones with a bad ESN.
My question is if I can use it here for calling and data internet(we have GSM networks here)?
Can I unlock it, so I can put my own sim card in it?
Oh and will I have warranty on it?
Does anybody know if it has Dutch(Nederlands) (NO NOT DEUTSCH) language on it?
By the way; if I'd buy it, I'd flash it out of the box
The 4G LTE is CDMA and LTE, so it won't work on the GSM network in Rotterdam. Also, there is no user accessbile SIM card slot like other LTE devices, so you definitely wouldn't be able to swap out the SIM. Also, I'm pretty sure ESNs that are flagged as bad won't work on the carrier to begin with because they reported stolen or otherwise tagged as bad because of unpaid bills on the account or something. Maybe that wouldn't affect your service if you used a different carrier, but that's a moot point here, you won't be able to use this phone on any other carrier to begin with.
The LTE doesn't have a SIM slot that would allow you to use it on a GSM network. The only SIM that it has is embedded and inaccessible without taking the phone apart and even then, I don't think it's as simple as just popping yours in.
Edit: ^Beat me to it.
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Thanks for replying,
Hmm I didn't read the specs well on PA I see. My network (Tele 2) provides LTE, but only in the Amsterdam area...
It won't work. It is designed to work on Sprint towers exclusively.
I have seen options to have it work on other US networks(boost, cricket, etc). Not for anything international though.
Consider a HTC One X as the exact same option.
Good luck.
Look for an International HTC One X in your area. Same phone, different look.
We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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This :3
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JigsterNL said:
We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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Dam all bad
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JigsterNL said:
We have the one X here, I don't like that phone
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Its pretty much the same phone besides the microsd slot and tad bit bigger battery
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oOflyeyesOo said:
Its pretty much the same phone besides the microsd slot and tad bit bigger battery
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I appreciate all of your advice, but I already said I don't want that phone. To me that phone isn't the same
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ESN dummy, really need help.
I'm getting a great deal on eBay for a Galaxy S5 on Sprint. It has a clean ESN, I checked it, however I dont know if the phone is unlocked. Will I be able to pop in an Indian GSM sim card into the phone and use it without any restriction?
If you have any skill flashing phones [and have a donor phone], I would recommend flashing the bad esn Evo 4g LTE to PagePlus. That's what I did.
I acheived 3g data too, though that part was hard.
If you're interested in this, let me know and I can try to post some of the guides/links I used [I used several].
Hey guys, I was considering buying a HTC Evo 3D and a bit confused about this. The things I'd like to know:
1. I've read that there are two types of this phone: CDMA and GSM. Could you guys explain what is the difference between the two?
2. Will the phone work properly if I order it from the US and use it in Hungary, Europe. There is no Verizon or Sprint here.
3. If I buy it and SIM unlock it can I use it here?
4. What is s-off?
5. What is your experience with the phone in general if you have it?
As a note: We can buy phones here too, but they cost too much. I'm not sure if they are CDMA or GSM though.
Thanks in advance guys, and have a nice day!
CDMA uses ESN/MEID which is hard coded into phone.
GSM uses sim cards.
There is more difference but those are the easiest to identify.
S-off is security off, and different from unlocking.
Unlocking allows custom rom and recovery.
s-off allows more, and makes things easier to do, but has greater risk of bricking the phone if you do something wrong.
I love the 3d, best phone.
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CDMA uses ESN/MEID which...
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Thanks for your answer!
Is there a reliable way to identify which phone uses which type? If I'll buy one I'll need to know if it accepts SIM cards.
So S-off is some kind of root, or similar?
Are we talking about the same "unlock"? I meant unlock as SIM unlock, so the phone accepts any kind od SIM card.
Do you know if there's a safe way to SIM unlock the phone, here on XDA? I have some experience with unlocking but I've never done it on an HTC.
We are talking about bootloader, unlock or s-off.
Sim unlock is different.
Also can tell by hboot version. Odd numbered seems to be gsm and even is cdma.
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We are talking about bootloader, unlock or s-off.
Sim unlock is different.
Also can tell by hboot version. Odd numbered seems to be gsm and even is cdma.
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Yeah, I see. But do you know if there's a way tounlock these phones? I've seen some threads here that might me working but I'd like to know if you've used them.
Also a phone with a bad ESN is only blocked at the current carrier, right?
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Yeah, I see. But do you know if there's a way tounlock these phones? I've seen some threads here that might me working but I'd like to know if you've used them.
Also a phone with a bad ESN is only blocked at the current carrier, right?
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Bad ESN means it CDMA phone and those don't have SIM card slot. If you want to buy it from US search for GSM model. There is a way to SIM unlock every phone, but in most cases you have to pay for it
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Bad ESN means it...
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Thank you for your reply! Knowing this is valuable when buying from the US, yeah. I was looking for a free way to unlock it, through tutorials and such because I can't and wouldn't like to afford paying for it anyway!
I recently had a tough time flashing regional firmware to Samsung phones... When I flashed a Czech one or with a different carrier it didn't have signal. The EVO 3D's firware is not regional, right?
Greetings from Hungary!
US is a specific market and you should think twice before buying a phone from US. There are ways to SIM unlock Evo, but they require s-off. I suggest you do some serious reading before going through with your purchase. I know a guy who bought mint condition Evo 3d from US very cheap and now can only look at it and cry because he got CDMA version which doesn't have SIM card slot
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Yeah I was lucky to discover this early! If there are no regional firwares I think it's a go.
Anything I need to know about S-OFF
A quick look at the forums and stuff tells me that it can be a bit complicated to do on some phones... Is it carrier dependant? Different HBOOTs can be S-OFFed differently?