Hello Atrix users! I recently just received this phone about a week ago and have rooted, unlocked the bootloader and also flashed the cwm. Now, whenever I try to update via OTA or sd card I get an error stating that the update has failed. I'm very new to Android phones and I was wondering what the procedure for updating would be? BTW I'm on 1.8.3
Thanks a lot
first of all i dont think your suppose to rsd or ota after you have unlocked the BL you have to flash GB through moto-fastboot or fastboot when u have GB on your external SD and run the commands through a command window, GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND and so is XDA just a do a search and you should find wat your looking for,
wat i have done is i was already on 1.8.3 and unlocked the BL, but i forgot to root the phone, and i couldnt root idk why, so i had to use the aroot method(do quick search on it) which had me rsd back to 1.2.6 then reboot, after that the words UNLOCKED where gone, so i think rsd back to 1.2.6 either took the unlock away or just got rid of the words and BL was still unlocked idk, but any way did a wi-fi ota update to 1.5.7 than ran afterupdate.bat and it retained the root, then just ran the unlock again with rsd rebooted and the words unlocked were back, but im not on 1.8.3, idk if i should try to ota to it, or rsd back to the beginning which is 1.2.6 and just ota all the way to the offical newest update of gingerbread then unlock the bl again and do the preinstall root method, thats where im stuck at,
That seems like a ton of work just for the OTA. I unlocked my boot loader and flash the cherry blur rom (v.1.4) this was the easiest way I have found to get 2.3.3 on my phone and without blur over taking the interface.
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from wat i have read you should be good with wat ever u do with rsd or flashing back to a stock rom AS LONG AS YOU HAVENT UPDATED TO THE NEWEST OTA UPDATE SENT TO YOU OTA BUT IF YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THE OTA UPDATE YOU WILL HARD BRICK YOUR PHONE IF U TRY FLASHING BACK TO A STOCK LIKE 1.2.6 i think that is how it goes from wat i have read
So I have my phone unlocked and rooted. If I have to return my phone for whatever reason, how do I get "Unlocked" to remove from the boot screen? Is that even possible? Currently running 4.5.91
When you SBF back to 1.2.6 or 157 or 183 it will remove it but if you used
the OTA then DONT FLASH A SBF!
Read Around there is a bunch of stuff on the dev fourms on how to go back
the proper way please I stress read read and read again before you do anything.
Ya I definitely know not to sbf to an older since I did the OTA update. Can I safely sbf to the official 4.5.91 release?
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kidoh1 said:
Ya I definitely know not to sbf to an older since I did the OTA update. Can I safely sbf to the official 4.5.91 release?
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this will get you started...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526
or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944
deziguy420 said:
this will get you started...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526
or here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125944
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Read through both threads. Still unsure if it's safe to flash either SBF and if it's going to remove "Unlock" during the boot. Right now I'm on the OTA update (so can't downgrade) and unlocked.
kidoh1 said:
Read through both threads. Still unsure if it's safe to flash either SBF and if it's going to remove "Unlock" during the boot. Right now I'm on the OTA update (so can't downgrade) and unlocked.
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the first SBF (the 4.5.91 with pudding baked in) definitely won't take out Unlock since it's with unlock in there already.
Stock SBF can potentially take out "Unlock", but I don't think anyone's determined whether it is safe to flash stock 4.5.91 sbf once you're OTA'd. I'm not planning to try : )
mysticdrew said:
the first SBF (the 4.5.91 with pudding baked in) definitely won't take out Unlock since it's with unlock in there already.
Stock SBF can potentially take out "Unlock", but I don't think anyone's determined whether it is safe to flash stock 4.5.91 sbf once you're OTA'd. I'm not planning to try : )
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Thanks for the input. Well, so far I've read that I can't downgrade. Not sure if flashing the stock 4.5.91 sbf is considered a downgrade. I'm thinking not. Maybe I'll try and see what happens.
Hello. The subject matter says it all.
I currently have a rooted and unlocked AT&T Atrix on 1.26 version (yeah...still in ice age ) with a locked bootloader. Im with a non-US telco carrier. It came unlocked and rooted so that was great. No hassle but now I have started doing research on custom roms and webtop mods. I am trying to get around the info overload, so pls bear with my questions.
The overall goal is to have a stock/custom rom devoid of all the bloatwares and can run webtop2sd, and if that is not possible then, webtop. Very simple needs.
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To remain on stock rom and update to 1.83 version, and then to install the webtop2sd mod. Ideally I would like to boot off Debian from the microsd card. There was a post in which a forumer mentioned that he was able to "frankenstein" the webtop2sd and webtop mods. Thats great if I understood correctly.
Option 2
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To update to 4.5.91 (probably a custom rom like Aura) and then install the webtop2sd/webtop mod.
What should be done?
I am going to update 1.26 -> 1.57 -> 1.83 -> 4.5.91 via system update. (which means I now have to signed with moto account...yes I have not as I read that there were some privacy issues.)
Through the update process, I would lose root. To keep everything clean, I am going to go through factory reset and then perform the update.
Once I am in 1.83 or 4.5.91, I will apply the root and unlock the bootloader. Which is the best way to go about this? Should I just follow the instruction here or this way. Or is there any other better way?
This is all I have for now until I install the webtop mod or the custom rom...
update your phone to wherever you want it at, then use this script to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
after that, you can easily root your phone using the preinstall method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204 (second post)
if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
I never got a semi-hard or *soft* brick from unlocking but that's just cause I must love to eat pudding =D . Do all the OTA updates, unlock / root, and then install the 2.3.4 fruitcake and install webtop. Best option by far, IMO, as far as the ease of transition goes. Should be cake. That's what I did and as long as you don't RSD lite with an .SBF back once on 2.3.4 OTA yer good to go.
eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
Install a custom kernel if ya wanna overclock or undervolt, I would personally suggest Faux123's. -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
aaand freeeze all that bloatware!-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
Alcapone263 said:
if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
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Maybe I should try to unlock it now... And then update.
tech_girl said:
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
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well, i can't find it anymore but there is an SBF in the development forum that will allow you to update to 2.3.4 android without getting the brickable bootloader, but i personally don't see a point in using SBF. it's not meant for the end user, and using it can be risky.
SBF flashing is faster i believe, but as i said can also potentially harm your device if you're unsure of what you're doing.
SamCripp, one of the most esteemed devs here, suggests for the average person to completely stay away from sbf flashing after you've unlocked your bootloader unless you absolutely have to use it for something.
remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method. it WILL brick your device to downgrade, but only with the OTA update.
EDIT: and it's a semi-hard brick, it doesn't hurt your device in the least. you might panic at first, but it's as simple as booting into fastboot mode and finishing the script. or if you're more tech inclined, you can just do the fastboot oem unlock command through fastboot.
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eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-....
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remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method.....
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Fruitcakes??? All this jargon.... Hmmm...gotta check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
yep, Fruitcakes. it's a CWM alternative to sbf flashing, much safer since it doesn't edit the bootloader at all, so there's no risk in hard bricking your device.
after you unlock your bootloader, you should install Romracer's CWM recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
do all of your flashing through CWM after you unlock your bootloader, just remember to clear cache/dalvik/data between each ROM or you might get stuck in a bootloop.
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
tech_girl said:
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
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well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
Alcapone263 said:
well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
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Once you unlock and get CWM installed its just a case of wiping the device and flashing zip files.
Yep after unlocking and getting rom racers cwm in, you get to have lots of fun and almost zero chance of hard bricking. Make sure you understand the pudding part. After you unlock throw rsd lite away.
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
tech_girl said:
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
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You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
pukemon said:
You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
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Yep thats how it works. once BL unlocked and CWM installed you can flash anything, including yes .91 stock.
Note that .91 stock OTA is not only the operating system but also modifies the bootloader hence all the hard brick warnings about flashing sbfs. When you flash zip files you don't touch the bootloader, so there is no chance of hard bricking. i.e. if you flash .91 stock from zip file from CWM as opposed to OTA, you get only the OS, not the bootloader update (which doesn't matter ).
I just unlocked my atrix and I'm still on 1.83, if I OTA to 2.3.4 am I going to have problems?
Not unless you rsd back to an earlier firmware. Then you will hardbrick. You can still flash earlier firmwares via CWM.
enomai said:
Not unless you rsd back to an earlier firmware. Then you will hardbrick. You can still flash earlier firmwares via CWM.
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That's all I need to know. I want to install alien at a later time but for now I just want to OTA to gingerbread. I have read about bricking if going back to an earlier version.
I've seen many bricks around. and i want to know which ways currently so we can avoid the hard brick. Thanks
Simple once you unlock your bootloader & update to Gingerbread (2.3.4), DO NOT RSD flash a earlier .sbf (i.e. 1.8.3, 1.5.7 etc.). If you want to return to 1.8.3 after updating and unlocking, you can flash the fruitcake via CWM.... so pretty much stay away from RSD Lite and .sbf flashes after you unlock bootloader.
i've have the latest OTA update, that mean my phone bootloader is unlocked?
Lordareon said:
i've have the latest OTA update, that mean my phone bootloader is unlocked?
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Not unless you unlocked it before updating... If you want to unlock your bootloader, root, etc. just go take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Which Rom Acttually provides better stability and perfomance?
Lordareon said:
Which Rom Acttually provides better stability and perfomance?
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I happen to like Alien myself, just b/c it gets rid of a lot of the bloatware (use my own theme). But different strokes for different folks.
Well i want one to mainly play games, i took a look at the table and alien and aria looks amazing. should i wait cyanogen mod? im using the latest OTA from motorola. Will i notice perfomance increase?
Swiftks said:
Simple once you unlock your bootloader & update to Gingerbread (2.3.4), DO NOT RSD flash a earlier .sbf (i.e. 1.8.3, 1.5.7 etc.). If you want to return to 1.8.3 after updating and unlocking, you can flash the fruitcake via CWM.... so pretty much stay away from RSD Lite and .sbf flashes after you unlock bootloader.
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Don't have to unlock. If you OTA'd to 2.3.4, you can't downgrade via RSD.