I just got mine today and so far im very happy. The pentile display isn't at all noticeable (and im pretty nit picky). The rep did say that it appears that they've improved the screen on newer stock. I timed my purchase so that if the epic 4g touch (galaxy s 2) comes out next month as is expected then i should still be in the 30 day return policy.
On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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On another note, i found out today that apparently sprint is switching to or adding a 4g LTE network. Not sure if this will replace wimax or supplement it. So far I've heard this from three different sprint employees who i know and trust.
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Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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Sorry not trying to be mean or anything but that's not news. It's been reported for a while now.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
I'm not 100% on a simple software upgrade but after LTE is put up wimax will still be around for a year or 2 after the fact so we won't be obsolete for that time frame...
If you are close to upgrading now, you shouldn't wait it will be awhile before they start releasing phones for LTE,
I work for sprint and we have got newsletters that Dan Hesse will announce our 4g lte plans in october.
Lightsquare is the company sprint signed the deal with
And more than that it will be a while before there is a wide LTE deployment anywhere but a major city. LTE isn't going to be a serious factor for most sprint customers for two years at least.
(I live in a city with one million people in the metro area and we still don't have WiMAX... I'm not holding my breath for 4g service anytime soon.)
One thing to keep in mind, is that Sprint could very well continue to make use of WiMAX alongside of LTE technology. WiMAX is PURELY for data, whereas LTE is used for both. There is no reason why LTE has to necessarily replace WiMAX.
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Yeah Sprint signed a deal to install LTE, and since Sprint has stopped with their Wimax installs I would say that they are switching gears and going to LTE instead of Wimax. From what the network engineers have told me, its a simple software upgrade so I'm hoping my new Photon will not be obsolete.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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From my understanding it's not just a simple sofware upgrade for phones. The Photon doesn't have the LTE radios installed to receive the signal.
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But from what I have read and have been corrected in another thread the LTE will be on 3 different spectrum's not just one like Verizon. There is some website that shows the hardware differences and stuff and in there is info on how they will implement LTE.
Snippet from http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=219837
Currently, Sprint/Nextel/Clear has three different protocols on three different spectrum bands distibuted on 82,000 towers. By comparison, Verizon and AT&T have about 40,000 towers each. Network Vision will reduce the number of towers to around 45,000 to 50,000 towers, while setting up the remaining towers to handle all three spectrum bands (800 MHz, 1.9 GHz, and 2.5 GHz) and any protocol (CDMA, Wimax, LTE, etc). This will provide Sprint with substantial savings in maintenance costs.
No WiMax yet
In Omaha we don't even have WiMax yet, does this mean we never will and the Photon will never be more than a 3G phone?
I'm a.happy e3d owner but knowing that the photon is a world phone with gsm radios on top of cdma I have a question..now that you guys have an unlocked bootloader (congratulations) do you think its possible that the photon will be able to run on t mobile or at&t LTE bands or at least hspa+ That would be pretty sick knowing that Wimax on sprint is.pretty useless at least for me...
I'm a Sprint Product Launch Ambassador for the Photon 4G and a corporate Sprint Technician.
The Network is upgradable, but the phones are not. Choose to upgrade today and I'll bet you a fiver you'll be up for upgrade again by the time LTE is actually flipped on.
The Network Vision equipment is so modular, that multiple technologies can be run in one single Base Station. Easy to upgrade, switch out, and plenty of slots to run LTE + Wimax concurrently.
I highly doubt our network engineers are going to get a mandate that states shut down Wimax on X day, and leave all users out in the cold with those devices. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. It will be just like the current migration of Iden, those who choose to move over to CDMA on their next upgrade can do so, those who choose not to (that NEED PTT as a requirement) will have the option to use the new Direct Connect Network when they are ready to upgrade phones later...as it's easier to just drop the Iden line of Phones and carry the next gen CDMA Nextel line in it's place for upgraders to choose from. Something that will give us a 2 year buffer for those clinging to the PTT service as a must before it's shut down completely...but by then, no one will have not had the opportunity during an upgrade to choose CDMA totally or the new CDMA PTT services.
So, that means those cities that don't already have WiMax will still get it on schedule in spite of the move to LTE?
Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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You really shouldn't let 4g be the deciding factor. I have 4g where I live and I don't even use it once a month. 4g is a battery hog. Besides even if it wasn't and you were putting 4g to good use on Verizon your bill would be through the roof.
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Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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Theoretically isn't going to work, I don't want to be stuck with a 3G phone for two years. I REALLY like this phone, but I am seriously considering taking it back and switching to Verizon for the similar Bionic. I don't want a monster phone crippled by 3G slowness.......
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I can count on my thumb how many times I have switched on 4G on my Photon the last two weeks.
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I'm sold on the Evo 3D but I don't know whether to move over from T-Mobile and go with it now (freedom from contracts), or to wait for the GSM version whenever it comes out?
Pricing aside (I know there are porting credits for new customers and other subsidies) I'd like to get some thoughts from people who use Sprint service with the device.
I'm not looking to start a flame war or anything, I just want to know what made you decide to go for it and whether a GSM version would have been more convincing?
If price has anything to do with you decision,I think Sprint is cheaper.
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I would go with sprint! they have great customer service, unlimited data, pretty good coverage, and you dont know when the evo 3d will work on t-mobile either. i would say sprint would be a good choice!
its really all relative to where you need it to work at. If your in a good tmobile area its great. hspa+ is crazy fast.
I just switched back to sprint (3 days ago) because of cost and too many dead zones with tmobile. I work at Chase so we get a hefty discount. But tmobile worked ok for me as long as I was in the inner city.
Now, I WILL say this. GSM hs(d)pa throughput hammers sprints 3G. Its always on, data speeds are crazy fast. The phone handles any network changes on the fly. Sprints 3G has been pretty bad lately. I averaged with poor service on tmobile (keep in mind I am in a hs(d)pa market), at least 2 megs down and with good service upwards of 7-8mbps. With sprint 3G im lucky if i get 500kbps.
Now to match apples with apples, Sprints 4G can be fast as hell too. with a good signal, i can get 8-11mbps. The problem is the building penetration of it due to the high frequency of wimax SUCKS. The other inherent problem is battery drain. Having the wimax radio on murders the battery. Where as tmobile phones the "4G" radios do comsume more power, but not to the effect of wimax handsets. A plus side to sprint is the data transfer isnt throttled when you hit 2gigs. You get full speed data no matter how much data you have used. (in most cases)
The other thing I dislike is if my phone loses the 4G signal, the wimax radio goes into a "sleep" state after so long, and you have to manually pull down the notification shade to tell it to scan for 4G networks again. Happens on all of the HTC Sprint 4G devices. I had the epic before (samsung) and 4G switching happened on the fly, sort of like tmobiles phones do.
I would go for it tho, if Sprint works in your area then to hell with it why wait?
Just be aware that Sprint is getting the Galaxy s2 within the next month or two...so Id defintely say wait a little bit to see both and see which one you like more.
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In my test with tmobile they got better 3g whenit works I do have more drop calls in tmobile and almost none on sprint, but if I would have to get tmobile I would definitely go with the sensation really nice phone evo 3d brother and the. Only thing is the it has less ram and no 3d which I could live with
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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In my test with tmobile they got better 3g whenit works I do have more drop calls in tmobile and almost none on sprint, but if I would have to get tmobile I would definitely go with the sensation really nice phone evo 3d brother and the. Only thing is the it has less ram and no 3d which I could live with
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i agree, I would prefer the sensation over the 3d because its slimmer and doesnt have the extra screen layer, so it looks like the images jump right off the screen. not downing the the 3D at all, but i would have preferred the sensation. Im never going to use the 3D stuff
Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Official no
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
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Has T-Mobile announced they're getting the 3D?
I assumed the Sensation was to be their version of it.
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Ah, I meant T-Mobile USA. There is a European GSM EVO 3D model coming possibly in September or soon after. Part of the reason I am interested in waiting is that I do enjoy my current T-Mobile USA plan--no contract. I switch phones every few months and it's been a really long while since there's been a phone that's kept me interested long enough to want to sign a contract.
Here's a link to the Rogers version of the GSM model (850/1900/2100 3G bands) and the UK Amazon version of the GSM model (900/AWS 1700/2100 UMTS bands; Sept 12 due date).
I really appreciate all of the thoughts you guys (and gals?).
While not Evo 3D related, sprint is moving forward with their Network Vision plan. Everyone has to start somewhere.
http://www.goodandevo.net/2011/12/f...int-marks-major-network-vision-milestone.html
I hope this means good things for me. I'm about an hour drive north of where they started with lte
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this is great because Sprint has so many LTE phones to choose from.
Hopefully the deployment will go much better than the joke that was the deployment of Wimax.
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Hopefully the deployment will go much better than the joke that was the deployment of Wimax.
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Yeah, hope they keep their promise of every customer having LTE by 2013. Haha
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this is great because Sprint has so many LTE phones to choose from.
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bwahahahahahaahahaha
This is why I'm waiting until long after my renewal upgrade is available (march) to re-sign. I'd be an idiot to waste my upgrade on a phone that can't take advantage of the coming upgraded tech. I'm hoping my 3D is only going to be needed for 6mths or so.
The sprint towers being deployed for lte are multimodal. Meaning they support multiple bands and would give us better signal all around and faster 3g when they do the 800 mhz switch.
Also I've read rumored (I know rumors are just that) that sprint may release phones that support both lte and wimax in 1 chip. If you upgrade to 1 of those earlier models coming out, you should be in the clear. We'll see though.
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The sprint towers being deployed for lte are multimodal. Meaning they support multiple bands and would give us better signal all around and faster 3g when they do the 800 mhz switch.
Also I've read rumored (I know rumors are just that) that sprint may release phones that support both lte and wimax in 1 chip. If you upgrade to 1 of those earlier models coming out, you should be in the clear. We'll see though.
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That would be awesome.
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That would be awesome.
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Too bad it's totally false. It's either going to be a WiMax device or an LTE device (for 4G phones.)
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The sprint towers being deployed for lte are multimodal. Meaning they support multiple bands and would give us better signal all around and faster 3g when they do the 800 mhz switch.
Also I've read rumored (I know rumors are just that) that sprint may release phones that support both lte and wimax in 1 chip. If you upgrade to 1 of those earlier models coming out, you should be in the clear. We'll see though.
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It took Sprint how long to release a Wimax phone after the first Wimax tower was put up?
As I recall, Sprint was only selling Wimax data cards for quite a while before the Evo 4G launched.
If history repeats, Sprint won't have an LTE (or network optimized, whatever) phone for quite a while. And when they do get one, they will probably require all kinds of increased fees and plans in order to get it.
I hope I'm wrong, but my faith in Sprint is pretty low these days.
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It took Sprint how long to release a Wimax phone after the first Wimax tower was put up?
As I recall, Sprint was only selling Wimax data cards for quite a while before the Evo 4G launched.
If history repeats, Sprint won't have an LTE (or network optimized, whatever) phone for quite a while. And when they do get one, they will probably require all kinds of increased fees and plans in order to get it.
I hope I'm wrong, but my faith in Sprint is pretty low these days.
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I'm with you on that one, Slim. I switched to Sprint 18 months ago (EVO 4G) on the promise of 4G. Now, my bustling college town 100 miles from DC STILL doesn't have Wimax, 3G is STILL a joke here and there's no way I can reasonably expect LTE to be implemented here for at least another year or so. Oh yeah, and voice coverage is so bad that walking inside a one-story brick building, my office, routinely causes dropped calls.
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It took Sprint how long to release a Wimax phone after the first Wimax tower was put up?
As I recall, Sprint was only selling Wimax data cards for quite a while before the Evo 4G launched.
If history repeats, Sprint won't have an LTE (or network optimized, whatever) phone for quite a while. And when they do get one, they will probably require all kinds of increased fees and plans in order to get it.
I hope I'm wrong, but my faith in Sprint is pretty low these days.
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read up much? obv not....
WiMax was up well before Sprint had a WiMax phone b/c Clearwire had WiMax up and was doing nothing but data plans for people.
Regardless of History the VP Sprint has already stated many times their first LTE phone will come around 2nd half of 2012. Lately being more specific he said it looks like 3rd qtr of 2012.
You can say what you want about their lack of wimax in cities after saying they would have it but i bet you wont find where the VP was stating wimax would be in city X by time X and then they failed to comply. Most of the claims of wimax coming to city X's are from sprint reps which we all know is complete crap. All the other statements are very general.
LTE phone will be on sprints network next year i guarantee it, willing to bet whatever you want on that. The WiMax rollout is completely different than the LTE rollout. LTE already has its suppliers signed up and set to roll out in their respective sections of the US. On top of that they have Lightsquared coming in too doing their LTE, and then in future after 2015 you have Clearwire going LTE.
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LOL, right?
I manage to live in this pocket of the bay area that technology has forgot. I don't get it. There's almost literally money falling out of trees here (or, off of vines, I suppose ) but the technology is SO far behind in every way.
Next time I move I will be paying a LOT more attention to the technology aspect of where I am going. I won't be holding my breath expecting to get LTE here by 2013, and probably no where near then.
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read up much? obv not....
WiMax was up well before Sprint had a WiMax phone b/c Clearwire had WiMax up and was doing nothing but data plans for people.
Regardless of History the VP Sprint has already stated many times their first LTE phone will come around 2nd half of 2012. Lately being more specific he said it looks like 3rd qtr of 2012.
You can say what you want about their lack of wimax in cities after saying they would have it but i bet you wont find where the VP was stating wimax would be in city X by time X and then they failed to comply. Most of the claims of wimax coming to city X's are from sprint reps which we all know is complete crap. All the other statements are very general.
LTE phone will be on sprints network next year i guarantee it, willing to bet whatever you want on that. The WiMax rollout is completely different than the LTE rollout. LTE already has its suppliers signed up and set to roll out in their respective sections of the US. On top of that they have Lightsquared coming in too doing their LTE, and then in future after 2015 you have Clearwire going LTE.
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IIRC, Clearwire LTE "hotspots" will be available in 2013.
I am also certain that the first LTE phone will available in Q3 2012 as planned. Otherwise, Sprint will become a penny stock, and we will have to lynch CEO Dan Hesse.
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IIRC, Clearwire LTE "hotspots" will be available in 2013.
I am also certain that the first LTE phone will available in Q3 2012 as planned. Otherwise, Sprint will become a penny stock, and we will have to lynch CEO Dan Hesse.
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yeah i said 2015 for main clearwire move to LTEAdvanced b/c Sprint stated they are supporting WiMax through 2015.
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yeah i said 2015 for main clearwire move to LTEAdvanced b/c Sprint stated they are supporting WiMax through 2015.
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Well if Sprint didn't support it till then they would piss a lot of people off, just saying,
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As long as they get a phone with LTE by July, I'll be happy.
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As long as they get a phone with LTE by July, I'll be happy.
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not likely. VP said 3rd qtr last time he spoke. few months wont make much diff anyway. I just hope that "phone" hes talking about isn't the iPhone5 with LTE as i refuse to get that.
I just dont want to deal with HTC releasing another WiMax super phone in juneish and then doing a LTE phone the following year. Unless that WiMax phone has the new qualcomm chips that have LTE modem built into the die! That will be my next phone whenever it comes period.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/10/3011498/sprint-small-cell-deployment-lte-rollout
pretty interesting.
Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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The evo 4g was available before Wimax was in 90% of places that it's currently available.
I think more people are likely to buy a phone that is ready for what is coming(LTE) than a phone that is for what is leaving(WiMax).
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Sprint better find a way to roll out their LTE quicker and with more coverage. After all, who launches a LTE phone without LTE being available? I think the sales for Evo LTE will suffer greatly because of lack of LTE. By the time LTE is up, the Evo LTE will be old news.
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I might be mistaken, but im pretty sure VRZ did the same thing. The sold LTE phones before the LTE network was officially up and running.
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I might be mistaken, but im pretty sure VRZ did the same thing. The sold LTE phones before the LTE network was officially up and running.
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Yep. The Thunderbolt didn't have LTE at launch if I remember correctly. Sprint has LTE running but has blocked users from connecting. I bet they will have the Atlanta market ready by release of the new Evo.
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The evo 4g was available before Wimax was in 90% of places that it's currently available.
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I hear ya knockin'. These days, phones become outdated fast....faster than when the OG Evo came out. I want the Evo LTE to succeed, but not having LTE out at this point in time doesn't make me want to upgrade to it and people from other carriers won't want to leave their 4G. And a few months from now, when LTE finally gets going, the Evo LTE will be considered old. Just my $0.02.
Good news that Sprint is going the extra mile to improve the LTE.
This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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If you're so disgruntled with them, then why do you stay with them? Not trying to argue, nor troll.
edit: I don't have 4g, I barely have 3g, and when I do have 3g it is intolerable. However, sprint has the best voice coverage in my area, so I keep them. After all, these are phones
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If you're so disgruntled with them, then why do you stay with them? Not trying to argue, nor troll.
edit: I don't have 4g, I barely have 3g, and when I do have 3g it is intolerable. However, sprint has the best voice coverage in my area, so I keep them. After all, these are phones
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I'm not paying to get out of my contract (especially now that Sprint upped ETF's), that is why I stay. Simple as that.
Before I signed my current contract, I talked to a Sprint representative (not a Sprint store employee) who assured me that Sprint was going to be extremely proactive in establishing a network.
Since then:
-Sprint upped ETF's
-Sprint spent funds that should have been allocated to improving it's network on the iPhone
-Sprint ended the premiere rewards program (a major reason I stayed)
Prediction: When Sprint finally has a network that can compete with other companies say goodbye to unlimited data plans. Sprint only keeps them around because that is the only card they have to play.
Getting back to the article, Sprint needs to completely overhaul it's network, not deploy "personal network extenders" that only mask the problem.
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Sounds like a stall on the lte?
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I'm not paying to get out of my contract (especially now that Sprint upped ETF's), that is why I stay. Simple as that.
Before I signed my current contract, I talked to a Sprint representative (not a Sprint store employee) who assured me that Sprint was going to be extremely proactive in establishing a network.
Since then:
-Sprint upped ETF's
-Sprint spent funds that should have been allocated to improving it's network on the iPhone
-Sprint ended the premiere rewards program (a major reason I stayed)
Prediction: When Sprint finally has a network that can compete with other companies say goodbye to unlimited data plans. Sprint only keeps them around because that is the only card they have to play.
Getting back to the article, Sprint needs to completely overhaul it's network, not deploy "personal network extenders" that only mask the problem.
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Don't care how they do it, I just want the end result to be better than the Wimax. Which it will be.
Verizon did it pretty damned fast, AT&T is trying under extreme odds, Sprint doing it on their own should be inbetween.
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This makes me laugh.
Sprint is essentially using hardware that is designed for home use (say a family of four) and rolling it out as a solution to it's congested network.
Is THIS their "Network Vision?"
No wonder I'm not surprised when I get 1kbps download. Can't wait for Sprint to install some "personal network extenders" (way better than an actual network) in my area, maybe I'll see 2kbps.
Two kids with a couple of paper cups connected by a piece of string has a better network than Sprint.
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Lets just say someone has no idea what network vision is or what it entails.
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Lets just say someone has no idea what network vision is or what it entails.
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It involves awesomeness. That's what. I bet it will be better than the other 3 carriers once it is finished.
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It involves awesomeness. That's what. I bet it will be better than the other 3 carriers once it is finished.
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...if Sprint can do it without going bankrupt first.
This sounds like a great idea for high traffic areas. Reminds me specifically last year at the state fair; there were so many people in such a small area that the tower(s) were so overloaded that data, voice, AND texting were absolutely unusable. You simply could not get through no matter what. It was horrible. Areas like that would be perfect for these small cells.
I'm just as fed up with sprints data service as everyone else is, but I have hope. If network vision ends up being as good as they say it is, I'll definitely be staying with them.
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This sounds like a great idea for high traffic areas. Reminds me specifically last year at the state fair; there were so many people in such a small area that the tower(s) were so overloaded that data, voice, AND texting were absolutely unusable. You simply could not get through no matter what. It was horrible. Areas like that would be perfect for these small cells.
I'm just as fed up with sprints data service as everyone else is, but I have hope. If network vision ends up being as good as they say it is, I'll definitely be staying with them.
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look at the towers they own. lmao. they don't own any towers. they have an entire tower in a CITY! then claim, OH YOU NOW HOW 4G! OR WE'RE DOING VOICE UPGRADES! SERIOUSLY!? TO A SINGLE TOWER!? It takes a network of towers in the RIGHT SPOTS to provide service. Sprint is a waste of time.
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look at the towers they own. lmao. they don't own any towers. they have an entire tower in a CITY! then claim, OH YOU NOW HOW 4G! OR WE'RE DOING VOICE UPGRADES! SERIOUSLY!? TO A SINGLE TOWER!? It takes a network of towers in the RIGHT SPOTS to provide service. Sprint is a waste of time.
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Exactly. All these people are swallowing everything Sprint is feeding them.
"Network Vision is going to be great!"
"Sprint's network is going to be better than all the other carriers!"
Please. "Network Vision" is just that, a vision, a concept, an idea, a hope and a dream. It only becomes a reality when Sprint begins to aggressively overhaul it's 3G and 4G networks. Not install "personal network extenders." lol.
Sprint has the crappiest network and is pretty much broke. I'm so sure that they will have the best network available in two years time.
I'm guessing that the people who believe in all this "Network Vision" crap are the same people that thought WiMAX would be better than lte. How'd that play out.
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flonker said:
Exactly. All these people are swallowing everything Sprint is feeding them.
"Network Vision is going to be great!"
"Sprint's network is going to be better than all the other carriers!"
Please. "Network Vision" is just that, a vision, a concept, an idea, a hope and a dream. It only becomes a reality when Sprint begins to aggressively overhaul it's 3G and 4G networks. Not install "personal network extenders." lol.
Sprint has the crappiest network and is pretty much broke. I'm so sure that they will have the best network available in two years time.
I'm guessing that the people who believe in all this "Network Vision" crap are the same people that thought WiMAX would be better than lte. How'd that play out.
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Played out pretty well. 12-15 mbps for me. That's plenty of fast for the things I use it for.
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Played out pretty well. 12-15 mbps for me. That's plenty of fast for the things I use it for.
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Did it? Know how much money Sprint shoved into that network even though nearly everyone in the industry said it would never work? What do they have to show for it? A network that they will keep around for the next couple of years until they redo it with lte, what it should have been in the first place.
I'm glad you can use it and that it works good for you, that still doesn't replace the fact that it was a huge business mistake.
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So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
woody296 said:
So how long before the other carriers follow verizons plan?...http://finance.yahoo.com/news/verizon-ditch-phone-plans-shared-120639203.html
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Not really sure, however, Sprint offers unlimited data, Verizon doesn't, and Verizon is still the #1 in the U.S. So, what that says, is Sprint is lacking other major areas: spotty Wimax, no 4G LTE yet, poor phone line up. My experience is Sprint offers more for less, but, that's not enough to keep people from jumping ship.
I guess what I'm getting at, is how can this really hurt Sprint any more?
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
krayziejoe said:
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE. I'm just waiting for the Rezound replacement to come out on Verizon and I'm leaving...had enough of it.
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I'd do the same, however, I'd blow through the data limit. I have no issues with my 3G service (although it's less than desirable in speed) or my reception (until I go in to Wal-Mart, lol!). 4G/Wimax sucks. I wouldn't be able to afford Verizon. My bill would easily increase by 50%.
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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krayziejoe said:
The only thing hurting Sprint is their lack of a network, terrible 3G speeds, and no 4G LTE.
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I don't think we have anything to worry about. Sprint can afford to keep unlimited data because their data speeds are 5 times slower than other carriers.
Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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Does anyone see this network vision upgrade fixing the speeds? It may help, but I doubt it will solve all the network problems.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
I don't think Verizon's plan will harm us per say . I actually think that it will drum up a little business for Sprint with them finally having a good summer lineup of phones and being cheaper. However I believe the next year to year and a half will either make or break Sprint. I for one waited patiently for the promise of wimax now like 90% of Sprint subscribers I'm still waiting for Wimax and or waiting for LTE. There will come a time soon when I'll get tired of promises and ditch them for another network even if it costs more. I'm not a speed junky but the 2/3g towers are so overburdened it's a joke in the 12 states i've been to I've never EVER gotten more then 1.2 megs with wimax or 3g while my sister in law's crappy old og droid opens 2-3 webpages while I'm waiting on one.
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I thought i read, and please correct me if i am wrong, if you don't have a lte device it will only help call quality, not network speed. So our crappy 3g is still going to be slow. But if you have wimax, well then you still have it to use.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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ummmm no. 3g speeds will increase since network vision also includes increasing the backhaul from the current bonded t1 backhauls many sites are currently using.
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I hope you are correct, the more i read about network vision and the different bandwidths etc the more confused i get
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I see plenty of tower upgrades nearby, but no improvement in data speeds. I think people are expecting way too much from this network vision. Sprint just doesn't have the network size/capacity or money to compete with Verizon and ATT.
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Ditto. According to the upgrade map on Sprint's site, every tower around my house has been upgraded, yet I still drop calls and get a max of 100kbps on 3g, even with full bars.
I am really struggling to find a reason to stay with Sprint. Sure it is great to have unlimited everything, but if I can't even place a phone call out of my kitchen, what's the value?
I'm waiting for the sgs3 to drop, if dev is the same for Sprint and Verizon. Then bye-bye Sprint.
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I'm glad im not the only one that feels this way. I pay $70/month for crappy service. I could be paying $80-85 and have great service. I think that's well worth the extra money.
Sprint has really dropped the ball. I got my evo 4g it was the best out. They followed with the evo 3d and was still good. Everything since then has been dissappointing. The new evo 4g lte is far from good enough to make me sign a new contract. They never even got the 4g working that well in my area, even though its supposed to be. Not signing a new contact in a few weeks when my old one is up for their broken promises
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Newklearx3 said:
I'll pay more for better service. My service sucks up here. I'm forced to use the 0002 prl. I'm switching to Verizon when the sgs3 drops.
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i switched to the 0002 prl about two days ago and it's the best thing i've ever done lol
As mentioned their plan won't hurt us because we have a crappy network. Verizon can switch things up because their network actually performs. I can't switch because of those outrages prices and I'm pretty sure I would burn through a gig of data.
From the comments I read it seems like this move by Verizon may land Sprint and ATT some customers.
verizons plan will lose out on customers and bring more to other networks as said earlier in the thread. but it really depends on where you live, alltel and sprint have the better signals around here. plus you just cant beat unlimited data
I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
I'm actually s sprint employee and switched to Verizon today and the network is leaps and bounds ahead of the sprint network and the droid DNA is amazing to say the least
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Balian67 said:
I am currently on Sprint with the HTC EVO 4G LTE. I love it. However this has more to do with Verizon and rooting then it does the phone itself. I haven't had any problems with Sprint turning my phone off or anything for being rooted, and seeing how this phone has a lot of development for it I would have to assume that it is good to root.
Now the verizon question. How is the network? Is it leaps and bounds above Sprints? Voice/Data (3G/LTE) coverage?
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Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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HOOKEDONDROID said:
Network, really depends where you live...I live in Utah and network is great, much better than Sprint here. If you do switch, as for now don't let it install the ota. It will block you from unlocking the bootloader. At least until the devs find a work around The phone is worth the switch by itself.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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For real though...I had Sprints 4G Map up in one tab and Verizons in another...Sprints 4G map looked like a cold and the Verizon map looks like a Disease. Meaning the actual coverage was night and day. I live in Ohio and basically all of ohio is covered in Red (LTE). I would be switching for the network not this phone. Reason is the new M7 for Sprint is this phone with expandable memory and 13 MP camera. I still can't get past the non-removable battery part.
And about the OTA comment. HA I don't flash or update ANY OTA. First thing I do when I get ANY phone is come straight here and tweak my stuff.
Does Verizon do checks though for rooted devices? Is their customer service crappy like I hear? Do they find extra fees and stuff to charge you? Do you ever get dropped calls or choppy calls? I swear Sprints network is a retarded step child. I could have Full bars and have a choppy call. Or be in the middle of an interstate highway and have 1 bar of service. Let alone have Full bars and no bandwidth. Now I am not stupid. I know what is happening.....Sprint sells 4G phones in a state that doesn't have 4G (not that much at least), so their lets say 25,000 customers in a city are all on 2G/3G taking up all the bandwidth, while on Verizon their 25,000 customers are split up on 3G/4G. Our family has been with Sprint for 12 years...So I have to convince the Family to switch (as we are on a 4 people plan).
Oh, dude who left sprint for verizon. Do you know if Verizon does any sort of welcome to Verizon and leaving our competitors kind of deals? Buy one get one free/free activation for devices...etc?
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The M7 doesn't have a 13 MP camera...Its based off Ultrapixels.
Verizon has great coverage compared to Sprint. It does depend on where you live so you might want to ask people you live around to see if Verizon gets good coverage where you work and live.
Also, if you buy your DNA from Amazon Wireless, its on sale for $50 for new contracts. Verizon also does a student discount if you are a college student or something. Verizon does charge a lot for its services compared to other places in the world, but it has one of the best networks(if not the best) in United States.
I didn't know that about the M7. However, I did read what ultra pixels are. Long story short the M7 will have 3 4.3MP sensors that collectively make a final result image that is supposed to have better color and image reproduction. Sounds interesting none-the-less.
Article: http://www.technocrates.org/what-are-ultrapixels/
subprime said:
I switched from Sprint to Verizon about a month ago and I only wish I did it sooner. Sprints network was ok a few years ago but unless you are in one of their lte areas, I found trying to use the phone for anything but calls or sms to be useless and frustrating.
I'm paying more on Verizon but for me it is worth it to have a smartphone I can actually use.
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This is the same exact argument I am trying to use with my dad. We are paying 205 (including taxs and fees) on sprint for a 2G (15+ yr old) and 3G (8+ yr old) technology and network. It would only make sense to pay the 230 + Tax and Fees
I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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I came from Sprint because of the beastly specs of the DNA. However I've been plagued with the sim card error, puk locked, and constant dropped data and cellular signals. I've gotten new sims and new phones, still the issue persists. So with all that going on, I'm not sure which is better between Sprint and Verizon. I kinda miss Sprint.
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Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Bigandrewgold said:
Sounds like you have some horrible luck. The only issue I've had is the SIM card error, once, a month or 2 ago.
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Ha tell me about it, I'm trying to remain optimistic that a fix will come about.
Sprint data doesn't compare.
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