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Since you don't want to stand up and be counted because you are afraid of being PM'd to death, take some time to answer the poll.
I suspect that the current root methods that are being worked on are being worked on by the rest of us and not being touched by the devs.
Prove me wrong, because as far as I can tell, all the devs are rooted and in ROM la-la land not giving two Sh!ts about the rest of us.
BTW - not a leaker. My phone was broken and replaced with a 2.1 RUU with 1.49.0000.
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Since you don't want to stand up and be counted because you are afraid of being PM'd to death, take some time to answer the poll.
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Who the hell are you to tell someone to take some time to do anything for you? Did your mother teach you ANY manners? These people do these things without any guarantee of payment, so unless your gonna put some cash up, I suggest you learn some of said manners.
Father_Vic said:
I suspect that the current root methods that are being worked on are being worked on by the rest of us and not being touched by the devs.
Prove me wrong, because as far as I can tell, all the devs are rooted and in ROM la-la land not giving two Sh!ts about the rest of us.
BTW - not a leaker. My phone was broken and replaced with a 2.1 RUU with 1.49.0000.
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So what? Because you ran into bad luck they OWE you something? I Hope everyone here who cares to support the devs submits a false answer to your poll so that it never does you one scrap of good. Maybe when you will learn some humility you can come back and PROPERLY ask them for something.
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Who the hell are you to tell someone to take some time to do anything for you? Did your mother teach you ANY manners? These people do these things without any guarantee of payment, so unless your gonna put some cash up, I suggest you learn some of said manners.
So what? Because you ran into bad luck they OWE you something? I Hope everyone here who cares to support the devs submits a false answer to your poll so that it never does you one scrap of good. Maybe when you will learn some humility you can come back and PROPERLY ask them for something.
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Amen to that. This is the kind of bullsh** that makes devs run away from our community, not towards it. If you want to ***** at somebody, call up HTC and tell them you can't root your phone. I'm sure they will be VERY sympathetic and offer to send you an Incredible instead.
lol sucks for u
You are a prime example of a entitlement complex. Seriously, they already dedicate all their spare time to us and helping us. If you're so pissy about it, you find out a way and help the community, don't sit there and *****.
I can pretty much guarantee you the SECOND you get root, you won't give a **** about any non-rooted people and only focus on ROMs.
Do you also expect verizon to erect a cell tower near your house and a mini AP in your car so you have perfect service wherever you go?
+1 to everything said above, also learn to search, there is already a root method for 1.49 s-on you idiot. The great devs of our commmunity already found an amazing loop
I LOL at you.
if I were a dev, i would stop working on rooting 1.49 after a post like this.
As a non-dev, I am disheartened to see this type of post in the Development thread. Have you seen the number of posts in the 1.49 leak-root threads? There are currently folks working on two distinct methods of rooting - isn't that proof enough for you? Also, was anyone here responsible for "making" you go to the leaked version? No? Well then why are the dev's responsible for giving you a cookie for the decision you made?
Also, to all of the people that say, "I can't be bothered to read all 100+ pages" or similar - please do. 99.9% of the time you will find the answer to your question within those posts - or hey, try the magical search box.
I personally want to thank the dev's that have been helping us with finding just the right exploit. As you can see, there has been a lot of work looking at the leak, RUU, hboot, and various methods to finally achieve [an easy way to] root the Eris. This community has been extremely helpful, innovative, and downright awesome in helping folks like me learn the ins and outs of the Android System and the Eris. Don't screw it up for the rest of us.
Mean ol' devs..
Y'all BETTER be working on root for Eris, or I'll... I'll..
I'll get REALLY mad..
In all seriousness, the points made in the responses are valid.. Father_Vic chose poor wording to express frustration, and some of his frustrations are borne out of simply being unaware of some things..
Root for 2.1 in general is being sought actively by all sorts of devs and would-be devs. I'm pretty sure there are fewer and fewer devs working directly on Eris, other than to try to make holes found elsewhere a little bit more open to the masses, a la the efforts by Tereg and company.
Are they working on it night and day? Hellz no. After you've tried the same stuff over and over a few times, you move on to either new angles on old stuff, or new stuff, altogether. Otherwise, people call you crazy or naive.
This poll seems like it'd be helpful on the surface, if just to provide reassurance for us poor 1.49ers without root, but the ones that respond affirmatively may or may not be totally clueless when it comes to anything other that running downloaded scripts, and as for the devs that really do understand, well..
Don't worry about this stuff running devs off.. The real devs LOVE to solve problems, because it's like crack cocaine to figure stuff out, and what they really don't give 2 $hitz about is polls..
Can we get this thread moved to General? Not sure that just deleting it would help anybody..
+1 to all said
if you really wanted root than maybe you should learn how to develop and try and find it yourself
I have uncovered the PERFECT root method for 1.49 bootloader. BUT after reading this so called post, I now refuse to ever release it. bwahahaahahahahahahahahahaha
no seriously...come on dude. little...well rude wasnt it.
We (including myself) are all working on it. The root method that exists has an extremely low success rate. We are all trying different things, we are all trying different methods and we are all devoting hours a day to try to bust this thing open. The eris is one of the only phones not rooted by means other than a rooted link. Some of us feel we are going at this alone without any real help from the devs. Plus anytime we have asked if any of the silent devs are working on it or have any suggestions; "flame on" from the rooted majority.
Not entitlement - just wondering if those of us fending for ourselves are getting any help from those who can.
BTW - to assert that we just go ahead and learn what the devs know really is insulting to the devs. All the time, effort, education, and knowledge that they have is not something that we can all just learn to do in a couple of days.
I knew the flame was coming....
Keep going, it actually makes pretty fun reading.
Father_Vic said:
Since you don't want to stand up and be counted because you are afraid of being PM'd to death, take some time to answer the poll.
I suspect that the current root methods that are being worked on are being worked on by the rest of us and not being touched by the devs.
Prove me wrong, because as far as I can tell, all the devs are rooted and in ROM la-la land not giving two Sh!ts about the rest of us.
BTW - not a leaker. My phone was broken and replaced with a 2.1 RUU with 1.49.0000.
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u sir are a douche bag get a life and root ur own friggen phone , u need a tissue ? u need a hug? god damn ITS JUST A FRIGGEN PHONE !!!!!
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u sir are a douche bag get a life and root ur own friggen phone , u need a tissue ? u need a hug? god damn ITS JUST A FRIGGEN PHONE !!!!!
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Have you got a hug for me...?
This is the most fun I have ever had on a forum. I love to watch this forum go apesh!t.
pass the popcorn.
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Have you got a hug for me...?
This is the most fun I have ever had on a forum. I love to watch this forum go apesh!t.
pass the popcorn.
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really ? ur doin it for fun ? looks to me all ur doin is pissing people off and not wantin to help people who want to be rooted .me myself , i am rooted but i was tryin to look into wayz to help u guys out , now i may or may not because of people like u
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We (including myself) are all working on it. The root method that exists has an extremely low success rate. We are all trying different things, we are all trying different methods and we are all devoting hours a day to try to bust this thing open. The eris is one of the only phones not rooted by means other than a rooted link. Some of us feel we are going at this alone without any real help from the devs. Plus anytime we have asked if any of the silent devs are working on it or have any suggestions; "flame on" from the rooted majority.
Not entitlement - just wondering if those of us fending for ourselves are getting any help from those who can.
BTW - to assert that we just go ahead and learn what the devs know really is insulting to the devs. All the time, effort, education, and knowledge that they have is not something that we can all just learn to do in a couple of days.
I knew the flame was coming....
Keep going, it actually makes pretty fun reading.
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I have a rooted phone, replacement on the way, I'm not getting my hopes up for a 1.47 hboot im sure 1.49 will come unfortunately, and seeing the low success rate with the current root methods I'm afraid im gunna hate my Eris again, and now any devs who were putting their FREE time in to help with something that doesn't even benefit them as they are already rooted. Thanks for pushing people away from helping us, and it's just great that it is all fun and games to u. I understand were u are coming from, but this is just bull crap. thanks for nothin.
Father_Vic said:
We (including myself) are all working on it. The root method that exists has an extremely low success rate. We are all trying different things, we are all trying different methods and we are all devoting hours a day to try to bust this thing open. The eris is one of the only phones not rooted by means other than a rooted link. Some of us feel we are going at this alone without any real help from the devs. Plus anytime we have asked if any of the silent devs are working on it or have any suggestions;.
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Up to this point you seem to almost have found some humility. Keep the attitude portrayed here and maybe send out a few PMs asking for help, politely, you may get somewhere, you may not... I GUARANTEE you get farther than your first post.
And as for some of the rest of your comments, MANY a "dev" has started not with college, but in the exact same place you are.
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I have a rooted phone, replacement on the way, I'm not getting my hopes up for a 1.47 hboot im sure 1.49 will come unfortunately, and seeing the low success rate with the current root methods I'm afraid im gunna hate my Eris again, and now any devs who were putting their FREE time in to help with something that doesn't even benefit them as they are already rooted. Thanks for pushing people away from helping us, and it's just great that it is all fun and games to u. I understand were u are coming from, but this is just bull crap. thanks for nothin.
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If it is a referb phone, you have some hope. I just got my Eris replacement (after rooting 2.1), and it was 1.5 with a 1.47 bootloader, so there is some hope.
i was working on root until i saw this post. its idiots like you that piss off the devs and make us go elsewhere.
if you are posting this just for fun, to get the laughs and eat your popcorn, then f&%# off. we dont want you here, demand things from the devs, demanding we speak up so you know who we are. if you really want to know who the devs are, that will most likely be anyone on there with more than 200+ posts. the ones that you know there nicks to because they spend most of their time on here posting to help n00bs like you out getting root, or answering the question of which rom is the best or how to install your bootanimation file.
you really want to know who the devs are? they are the ones that sit in the irc channel all day (chat.andirc.net) and are any of the ops on there, or have a uptime of 72hours straight.
you want me to compose a list of all the devs, and then another list of all the devs working on root for you?
here is that list for you:
http://austrianeconomists.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451eb0069e2011570ea5170970c-800wi
Hi guys, I was thinking about trying to port CyanogenMod to Lg Optimus Chic E720. I'd like to know if there's any tutorial about this, or at least a few tips for start the development. How to start? Supposing i've already downloaded the sources. Is CWM required? Because at the moment I've only got AmonRa style recovery by drellisdee
up please help me
This should help you
How could it help me building CyanogenMod?
I used that kitchen to cook the official 2.2 and 2.2.1 from LG, i don't think it is useful for porting CM, isn't it?
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Hi guys, I was thinking about trying to port CyanogenMod to Lg Optimus Chic E720. I'd like to know if there's any tutorial about this, or at least a few tips for start the development. How to start? Supposing i've already downloaded the sources. Is CWM required? Because at the moment I've only got AmonRa style recovery by drellisdee
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This is a hard question
Hmmm...
Hmmm... Porting ROMs is a bit hard but I think you can manage it. You'd have to find a device with the same resolution and the same CPU Type and download the CyanogenMod for it and then try porting it.
I think this might help you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941239
U mst ignr dis
If people are looking to move into development, dont be a ****, you know who you are!
First off, any question of this nature will get you slammed by "pure" devs, because, it is not easy and takes hard work, "pure" devs will take the time to slam you for not doing as they have done, watch Hackers from the 90's, joey gets slammed all the time. Asking questions without taking the time to look first, or asking questions which look this way, makes you a target!
The key is to read, search, read, investigate, search, read, learn! then do it all again. There is a massive repository of knowledge out there, if you come and say something like "I have been looking to port a CM build, I have looked into it there is alot, anyone know a good place to start?" Your less likely to get slammed.
The CM Wiki or the CM Forum is your best bet. Plus you could join the community, start small I would, if you spend alot of time on it you could rip through some small branches with support, then move onto what you want quite quickly. If that doesnt make sense, head over to the froum and community and read, read ,read. It will eventually.
I know this post is old but people still look at it from searches. Be kind you never use'd to know either.
Thanks
Hello there, Since I am somewhat poor and I´m still under my parents wing... I upgrade phones about every 5 years, (well at least until I start working) so i was really outdated with phones but i did my homework and got to the conclusion that Android based phones are the best price x performance/ features.. specifically Motorola brand around the $200 mark so my decision was between the Droid 3, Photon 4g & Atrix 4G.. I decided for the Atrix with the lapdock which i think is the best feature until now!
This it my first smartphone ever! laugh at this.. I´m upgrading form a Motorola Rokr em35 which i remember that i bought for $180 because it was a music player based phone that had a 3.5mm headphone jack! and now i bought the atrix with the lapdock for $250 on eBay.
Im just learning how to use the phone I´m hoping for some guidance on some things i should and shouldn't do!
first off.. My phone is blocked.. so Im thinking about buying an unlock code for about $2 since its blocked in my country (Dom. Rep.) ,, hows that about?
i want to learn all about the cool stuff i can do with the phone.
learn about custom roms and themes... Ive heard theres roms that are really optimized for the Atrix 4G and even overclocked!! but i dont want to loose the webtop ability?
I heard that you can make a partition on a micro sd and install a Full Ubuntu OS ... which im most exited about! even thought ive never used linux!
Luckily im into computers since I study computer science/engineering and these things shouldn't be hard for me to learn.
im really eager to get on to this stuff and I hope i can get somebody to guide and help me though all this! i hope this is the right place
Before doing any unlocking, or custom roms, etc. READ, RE-READ IT, THEN READ IT ALL AGAIN. until you understand what you are doing.
as for ubuntu ( linux ) on your phone, you said that you never used linux before. I would learn the basics with linux, on a computer, before slapping it on your phone and not understading the OS. But thats up to you. its just easier to learn it on a pc from start, rather than on a phone that you dont even understand yet.
No question here, is a dumb question, so ask away, ( just remember to search before asking so ya dont get the crap flammed out of ya )
once ya start learning linux, you will love it. its better than windows.
Good Luck!
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Before doing any unlocking, or custom roms, etc. READ, RE-READ IT, THEN READ IT ALL AGAIN. until you understand what you are doing.
as for ubuntu ( linux ) on your phone, you said that you never used linux before. I would learn the basics with linux, on a computer, before slapping it on your phone and not understading the OS. But thats up to you. its just easier to learn it on a pc from start, rather than on a phone that you dont even understand yet.
No question here, is a dumb question, so ask away, ( just remember to search before asking so ya dont get the crap flammed out of ya )
once ya start learning linux, you will love it. its better than windows.
Good Luck!
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thanks, I´ll read as much as I have to.. can you post me some good links on these sfuff.. but first i wanna unlock and root the phone. I seen vendors on ebay that provide you with an unlock code for your IMEI. should i do that¿
edit: btw i am familiar with ubuntus UI since Ive used it a few times but never had it personally for me so i dont now things like commands lines and that advanced stuff. i just like the idea of using the lapdock as a notebook and not being limited by the ROM/OS ... would be good for collage.
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thanks, I´ll read as much as I have to.. can you post me some good links on these sfuff.. but first i wanna unlock and root the phone. I seen vendors on ebay that provide you with an unlock code for your IMEI. should i do that¿
edit: btw i am familiar with ubuntus UI since Ive used it a few times but never had it personally for me so i dont now things like commands lines and that advanced stuff. i just like the idea of using the lapdock as a notebook and not being limited by the ROM/OS ... would be good for collage.
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the wiki has most the guides, roms, and other stuff listed out, and its mostly up to date.. you should definitely read through the noob guide first because it has all the terminology you'll be seeing throughout the rest of the forums
If you want to keep your webtop the roms I would recommend are darkside or wetdream, both by Nottach..they have a ton of great features..of course there are others and I recommend you go through all of them and find whats right for you..just avoid cyanogen mod(CM7, CM9) based roms because they do not include webtop or any close alternative for now
Just remember, take your time on rooting and unlocking your bootloader, because you can really mess things up, but after that everything else should be pretty easy..
And don't worry too much about your rom selection, if you back everything up properly you should be able to switch roms in under an hour, so you can try out many different roms before settling on which one you like best(such a hard choice!)
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the wiki has most the guides, roms, and other stuff listed out, and its mostly up to date.. you should definitely read through the noob guide first because it has all the terminology you'll be seeing throughout the rest of the forums
If you want to keep your webtop the roms I would recommend are darkside or wetdream, both by Nottach..they have a ton of great features..of course there are others and I recommend you go through all of them and find whats right for you..just avoid cyanogen mod(CM7, CM9) based roms because they do not include webtop or any close alternative for now
Just remember, take your time on rooting and unlocking your bootloader, because you can really mess things up, but after that everything else should be pretty easy..
And don't worry too much about your rom selection, if you back everything up properly you should be able to switch roms in under an hour, so you can try out many different roms before settling on which one you like best(such a hard choice!)
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thanks so much for being kind with this noob
It can't be overstated though. READ. I've been toying with my Atrix for a couple of months now, and came close to bricking my phone since I didn't read it all. By all I don't mean only posts about the developer, but problems people have encountered with their specific atrix model.
You've got to read a lot though.
The Atrix was my first Android and I have to say I couldn't be happier with the level of customisation you can get.
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It can't be overstated though. READ. I've been toying with my Atrix for a couple of months now, and came close to bricking my phone since I didn't read it all. By all I don't mean only posts about the developer, but problems people have encountered with their specific atrix model.
You've got to read a lot though.
The Atrix was my first Android and I have to say I couldn't be happier with the level of customisation you can get.
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yes, im reading the wiki link thewarhawk gave me, i want to be careful not to brick it.. because i cant send it back to the US to att ... if any thing i´ll make another help me thread
Hey guys! I don't want anyone to see this as fishing for compliments or thanks, so let's kill that idea first.
I was recently nominated and accepted as a Recognized Contributor here on xda, so I just wanted to kinda give you guys a formal and friendly introduction.
Username: RegnierD -> IRL: Todd
I've been an Android geek for nearly two years now, and have absorbed a lot of information in that time. While I may not be able to build my own rom or submit fixes on github, I do retain information very well and try to help out everywhere I can. I just want everyone to know that if you guys ever need help with something or just need a little guidance, feel free to ask me and I'll do the best I can to respond in a timely manner. I know the big world of root and custom roms can be a bit daunting at first, but that's why we help our newer members learn rather than gripe at them.
You guys can either post questions here or PM me, but I do ask that you try and figure it out on your own first. You'll learn a lot more that way. I promise, that's how I learned everything I know.
Devs, this goes for you too. If you need a last minute tester for something, I'm almost always available to help. I'm willing to switch roms on a dime and flash/push files to the phone. I'll be putting my GTalk ID on my profile soon, so you guys can reach me if need be.
I hope I can be as useful as possible to you guys! Happy rooting to you!
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
RegnierD said:
Hey guys! I don't want anyone to see this as fishing for compliments or thanks, so let's kill that idea first.
I was recently niminated and accepted as a Recognized Contributor here on xda, so I just wanted to kinda give you guys a formal introduction.
Username: RegnierD -> IRL: Todd
I've been an Android geek for nearly two years now, and have absorbed a lot of information in that time. While I may not be able to build my own rom or submit fixes on github, I do retain information very well. I just want everyone to know that if you guys ever need help with something or just need a little guidance, feel free to ask me and I'll do the best I can to respond in a timely manner. I know the big world of root and custom roms can be a bit daunting at first, but that's why we help our newer members learn rather than gripe at them.
You guys can either post questions here or PM me, but I do ask that you try and figure it out on your own first. You'll learn a lot more that way. I promise, that's how I learned everything I know.
I hope I can be as useful as possible to you guys! Happy rooting to you!
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
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thanks brO!! its nice to see there still are some decent people who are here to help.. i respect that..
same here...good to see some more help for sure. But anyways ive just got one question here for ya and you may or may not be able to help me. ive tried to ask this in the forums and haven't got an answer so here it goes.
My phone gets warm up around the camera area almost immediately it seams like. it starts when i start using data such as scrolling around Facebook or downloading an app, etc...and was just wondering if that's normal or should i get a replacement? $590 bucks is a lot for a phone and i just want it right ya know.
Now the only reason i ask this is cuz my gnex does the same thing but it gets really hot after about 15 to 20 mins of using data.
thanks a lot for all your hard work and support for dummies like me that dont know anything lol...
Hello and good evening everyone.
I have received so much from these forums and the Android community in general. A while back I had a HTC DHD and contributed with bandwidth for ARHD(this is way back) as I want to give back to the community(donations aside ofc). Now I have a LG P990 and am trying to find a way to help out with something.
Recently I have been trying a lot of apps of all sorts. One thing I have noticed is the poor translations to swedish. It is sometimes even embarrassing to see how very well written apps and tools are just filled with down right badly translated text. Seeing how many Android users there are in Sweden I really think this is both strange and a bit sad.
I don't know if I' sticking my nose out here, but I want to help clean this up. Maybe I come off as arrogant in this post. That is not the intention here though. All I'm looking for is a way to try and figure out how to help out
Should I just start emailing the specific devs or is there a forum or anything where "translators" gather round? IRC channels maybe? Am I being stupid?
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Should I just start emailing the specific devs...
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Yep, that's the best you can do. Actually, multi-language support isn't a difficult job, so I think the devs will be glad if you wish help them
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Yep, that's the best you can do. Actually, multi-language support isn't a difficult job, so I think the devs will be glad if you wish help them
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Actually it seems pretty difficult to do since a majority of translations are less than perfect.
The problem with emailing devs is that they have no idea of who I am or what I am capable of. Did it a couple years back and the usual reply was "we have someone" or "no we don't need it".