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Originally Posted on DroidRZR.com
We need to make Motorola realize that they cannot break promises and not expect major backlashings from their consumers. They promised to have unlocked bootloaders by the second half of 2011 if carriers let them, and guess what? Its December 31st, 2011. No unlocked bootloader. HTC has unlocked the bootloader for the Thunderbolt and other Verizon devices, so it IS NOT VERIZON. It is Motorola. Let your voice be heard: "Unlock the RAZR Bootloader!"
Motorola on Facebook
Motorola on Twitter
Quoting them will probably be the MOST effective. And mentioning HTC has unlocked their Verizon phones.
“In terms of your question – we completely understand the operator requirement for security to the end user, and as well, want to support the developer communities desire to use these products as a development platform. It is our intention to enable the unlockable/relockable bootloader currently found on Motorola XOOM across our portfolio of devices starting in late 2011, where carriers and operators will allow it.” -Motorola
Open Letter to Motorola - December 31st, 2011.
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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opensourcefan said:
Similar thread on this forum already....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
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Except, that thread includes 0 links, 0 references to Moto quotes and promises, etc.
Don't delete this thread!
People are lazy, we will never get the bootloader unlocked if no one does anything, and this thread provides links and references.
We need all the help we can get!
I second this. Motorola needs to take responsibility for its words and actions.
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I would second this but someone already did, I THIRD IT!
Sounds good I'm in
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The way information moves these days, I'm surprised that it hasn't been leaked out already. I wish someone at moto would go against the grain and do a solid for the community.
I fourth it! =D
I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
If anyone is interested I wrote up this complaint (http://db.tt/Z441y4yG) concerning Verizon's policy of locked bootloaders and how it violates the LTE license. I sent it to the FCC and NY senators, one of whom is looking into the matter. The complaint is written like a legal brief and has garnered the attention of at least senator. Feel free to use it and send it to FCC and your senators.
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opensourcefan said:
I stand corrected, good thing the mods are smarter than me.
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Agreed X 10.
mattlgroff said:
Agreed X 10.
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Wow, kinda mean.
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I just twittered demanding them to answer for their promise. Ignored as expected.
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Well its been a year and our bootloaders are still locked. In 2011 moto promised to embrace the dev community and unlock all the bootloaders on their phones. HTC started offering unlocks but moto hasn't said a word. I personally think it has something to do with Google's purchased of Motorola mobility but I'm not sure. They haven't issued any type of statement regarding this issue. Lets take action! We need EVERY one in the photon forums to take 3 mins and fill this out. This petition is flying around teh interwebz extremely fast. Its definitely going around XDA as all moto owners are joining forces, let's get in on it! I hope moto responds I really like them as a company now...
728/1000 (1st goal) signatures so far.
The article:
http://phandroid.com/2012/01/04/mot...ers/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
Here's the link to the petition:
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2#
XDA thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419815
Edit: I tried to sign from my device but it wasn't working correctly. Please take 3 mins and sign from computer unless it works for you on phone.
got mine filled out.
I filled it out BUT....
I Hope I don't get a bunch of obama spam.
Signed. Now where is their facebook page.....
Signed. Is this the official Motorola page? Time to spam with requests to unlock the bootloader or at least give an update on it?
Signed
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http://m.facebook.com/wall.php?id=121867580498&refid=0&_rdr
I think this is.
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Cubanlurk88
I think ur right. I think one is Motorola and the other is mobility. I left comments on both pages.
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Same. Posted links on Reddit as well so hopefully that will stir some comments.
Signed it. Isn't anyone from motorola lurking here?
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From this site
It is our intention to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on MOTOROLA XOOM, in future software releases starting in late 2011 where operator and channel partners will allow it.
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Who are the operator and channel partners? Perhaps they are the ones hindering this?
I was #980.
kennypow3rs said:
I personally think it has something to do with Google's purchased of Motorola mobility but I'm not sure.
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The Google deal still is being held up and there is a chance that it may still get kiboshed. So I don't think it's that..
rbeavers said:
I filled it out BUT....
I Hope I don't get a bunch of obama spam.
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Here we go "Thanks for Joining" and an auto gen. password email.
rbeavers said:
Here we go "Thanks for Joining" and an auto gen. password email.
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Damn, I wish I would have read this thread before signing. I hate strings....especially political ones.
Moto is deleting posts from users on their Facebook.
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You're not going to get spammed. They sent me 1 email with my password and that's it. I honestly would NEVER do that to you guys. Its s legit petition to get their attention dudes.
Edit: OK wait I got one if those political emails WTF lol. Just hit unsubscribe at the bottom of email.
MedicStuder said:
Moto is deleting posts from users on their Facebook.
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Bastards. This is definitely getting their attention indeed.
MedicStuder said:
Moto is deleting posts from users on their Facebook.
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My two cents on FB.If you agree then "like" the hell out of it. Catch it before it disappears.... and gets reposted.
Lokifish Marz said:
My two cents on FB.If you agree then "like" the hell out of it. Catch it before it disappears.... and gets reposted.
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bahah i saw that post and was like "I swear that name is familiar"
I want to trade my US Titan for a UK Version or a UK Android. Is there a forum for this purpose? I can't find it. Thanks.
Post the details in the want to sell forum on the main xda forum page, you will need to scroll down and it will involve using your mouse and possibly use of your eyes ;-p
Yes xda marketplace - google it.
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Hi to both of you and thanks for the reply.
Seriously I was going crazy about this, especially after I saw your replies cause I still could not find it. I just learned there was a reason I could not find it. Apparently I have no access to that forum because I am too new here. Therefore it doesn't matter how much I used my eyes or scrolling with the mouse
I guess I will have to wait.
You might want to pm Dmac1984 to possibly make a trade on his unlocked UK titan phone. Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1699600
Will do, thank you!
I got the DNA about a month ago but when getting it Verizon did the update for me.. while "showing me the ropes".. even though I easily know more, but anyhow I'm stick with it. But it seems like I have to unlock the bootloader to get the recovery to root to flash Rom. But I'm unsuccessful even getting the bootloader unlocked for this ota for this phone. Is someone working on this or maybe I'm missing the current fourm? Thanks for any direction but I'd like to sometime test ubuntu on this quad core beast .. and get the bloatware off of it!
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The answer is no.
Wrong section. Doesn't belong in development .
Have you read any of the threads in the DNA general or q&a sections?
From my S-Off DNA
For the 1000th time, no, unless you want to send your phone off to be jtagged you cannot unlock/soff/root your phone.
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Send your phone to mobilevideotech.com
My phone updated as soon as I turned it on (my 3rd replacement.....I keep dropping them) and they were able to jtag my phone and s-off. Worth it for anyone who;s been updated for whatever reason.
Thread moved to Q&A
The above poster meant MobileTechVideos.com. Josh, the owner, is an original XDA developer.
Sorry for wrong section and yes I have tried to search before but many people saying many things. So thanks for clarifying with the extra info on where to send it too.
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people are smacking their heads because there is no sticky just for this question. that's the reason you have stickies...
I know its in the frequent questions stickie.. but this needs its own ...
for the love of gawd.
I just got a notification that a system update is available. Does anyone know what's on this? Will it effect root?
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enzosly said:
I just got a notification that a system update is available. Does anyone know what's on this? Will it effect root?
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what software version do you have now?
gunnyman said:
what software version do you have now?
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Right now I just flashed the viper Rom. So not sure...
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enzosly said:
Right now I just flashed the viper Rom. So not sure...
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does viper supply OTA's? best to hit up that thread with your question, because Viper dev should have disabled carrier OTA's
I got the viper ota today. If you're on viper it's the 1.10 rom update.
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How do peoples phone not get bricked?
A man flashes a Rom and now is wondering about AT&T system update?
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shook187 said:
How do peoples phone not get bricked?
A man flashes a Rom and now is wondering about AT&T system update?
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Sounds like your trying to be a smart ass. I asked what the update was because I was getting one. It's people like you why I hate useing this site. Too many people always looking to call people out. Did you get picked on to much at school and now this is your chance to get back? Don't respond to questions you don't care about.
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spitfire2425 said:
I got the viper ota today. If you're on viper it's the 1.10 rom update.
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I just noticed that it had ota updates. Sorry for the confusion.
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Don't get all worked up man, the guy up there is just like most of us experienced users, we search and do research. You got lucky because I'm in a good mood and if it was any other time I would have just told you to search and research like you should have done instead of just asking on xda. It's not the site, it's not the people that seem like jerks. It's the people like you who that make this site the way it is, if everyone would just search first then ask questions later xda would be a wonderful and happy place.
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The question I hated most was "will this affect root"
Its probably worse then "will I still get OTA update"
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spitfire2425 said:
Don't get all worked up man, the guy up there is just like most of us experienced users, we search and do research. You got lucky because I'm in a good mood and if it was any other time I would have just told you to search and research like you should have done instead of just asking on xda. It's not the site, it's not the people that seem like jerks. It's the people like you who that make this site the way it is, if everyone would just search first then ask questions later xda would be a wonderful and happy place.
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I think it's more of a issue that I don't know how to navigate on here that well. I was looking for something on updates but didn't see anything current. I don't ask to many questions and no iv never bricked my phone. Thanks for your help it was my over site. I'm not a expert yet
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enzosly said:
I think it's more of a issue that I don't know how to navigate on here that well. I was looking for something on updates but didn't see anything current. I don't ask to many questions and no iv never bricked my phone. Thanks for your help it was my over site. I'm not a expert yet
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But come on dude it's common sense that if you flashed a Rom you don't vet AT&T updates
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just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
aimetti said:
just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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It's a forum and there's absolutely no need to have multiple threads on the same subject or to have a thread on a subject that can be found with a quick look in the thread he downloaded the Rom from...
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aimetti said:
just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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We say search because... IT'S IN THE DAMN XDA RULES. Who's the tool now? Don't be an ass when we do it for a reason.
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We say sea. h because... IT'S IN THE DAMN XDA RULES. Who's the tool now? Don't be an ass when we do it for a reason.
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Clearly you are bordering the no life category.
Either answer his question or ignore it. stop being a moron. its pathetic at this point. Let a mod handle it if it matters that much to you
aimetti said:
Clearly you are bordering the no life category.
Either answer his question or ignore it. stop being a moron. its pathetic at this point. Let a mod handle it if it matters that much to you
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Clearly you're bordering the a-hole category. There's no reason to insult someone encouraging people to follow the rules of the forum they frequent. No need to be a mod to encourage following the rules.
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Haha
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aimetti said:
just ignore the tools.
the morons who continue to say search non stop are just as annoying as the people asking the questions. its a damn forum , communicate for f sake.
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We do communicate, and still the same questions get asked over, and over, and over. It can become a bit frustrating after awhile.
9 times out of 10, if you simply copy and paste the OP's question into Google the answer will pop right up in the first couple of results.
I will say the same thing I said on a different thread...
When a question is asked people who know the answer have two options...
A) You choose to answer the question
B) You choose not to answer the question...
To come up with a smartass remark while NOT answering the question makes you a special kind of douchebag.
If a person is posting in this forums is because they were searching. Nobody comes to this forums as their first instinct...they find these forums because they are searching the answer to a question.