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Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
Man I guess ur in the same boat as quite a few of us. Sit back realx, wait for clockwork, wait for ROMS, and prepare to have fun when all of the previously mentioned items to start appearing and enjoy having the beat hardware available at this point.
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you chill.. till the next episode.
We're close. Hang tight.
Next big thing is the official Froyo update, I guess. This thing is already flying so fast, I can't wait to see how Froyo runs on it. I had installed KaosFroyo on my old Droid Eris, which made it actually functional again, but despite that ARMv6 CPU's (or was it ARMv5?) best effort while overclocked to 710MHz, along with the JIT compiler, it just could offer me the experience I was looking for.
Can't wait to see what people can do with the Fascinate, though at this level of performance, I will probably be less likely to install custom ROMS. Plus, the Fascinate ROM has some very nice bells and whistles, like the WiFi/BT/GPS/Airplane on/off buttons on the notification screen, which you don't get with a plain vanilla ROM. Now, if somebody comes out with a Gingerbread ROM, I just might be interested.
I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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I've actually been quite disappointed with performance on this phone, with the exception of games. I'm coming from an Incredible which is dramatically snappier and generally stutter-free, despite the hardware not being as powerful. With the Fascinate I notice stuttering and lag every few screen changes, which is disappointing. I would say the lock screen stutters/lags 50% of the time, maybe more.
At this point, I'm blaming Samsung's software, so I'll try and wait for custom ROMs to resolve this.
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Have you tried switching to LauncherPro? That will give you a good speed boost overall. The lag fix should take care of the rest. I saw the same issues as you, which are all gone after these mods.
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Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
The lag fix actually made my phone run worse..installed it..and it ruins like a dream
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There is no need to move an app to system just to uninstall another one. I use ADW launcher and have uninstalled TW launcher. Keep in mind, when you do the uninstall you must have your other launcher set to default or bad things will happen. After the uninstall the phone will go into a FC fit. Simply reboot and all will be golden.
After removing TW launcher I haven't seen any lag, and I never applied the "lag fix".
Hope that helps
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Yeah I figured that was true, I just wanted to make Launcher Pro even more official by making it a SYSTEM app .
I'm going to give it a shot now. Here's to hoping I won't require an Odin restore of any kind...
jorge3687 said:
Hi people, I finished rooting my phone, I guess im rooted because I have an icon in apps called super user, i applied the lag fix, now what do I do next?
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REPLACE BING OR COURSE!
http://forum.androidcentral.com/fas...11-got-google-widget-works-now-bing-dead.html
theicemonkey said:
Yes, I have been running Launcher Pro Plus from the outset. I am rooted and have applied the lag fix. The Incredible was still MUCH faster. Launcher Pro doesn't fix things like the notification bar or lock screen stuttering, or the soft keys not responding immediately after being pressed.
I am going to attempt to move Launcher Pro Plus into the system folder and remove TW-Launcher as one of the other members did to try and improve speed.
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NOOO WAY!! The Incredible I had doesn't even compare to the speed I'm getting from my Fascinate! The Incredible I even had Froyo on it!! That thing was crap for me.. Lets not get on the topic of battery life...
The battery life on the Incredible was no good, I will agree with you on that. But, in terms of overall system smoothness (remember, NOT games or multimedia), the Fascinate (along with all of the other Galaxy S phones) doesn't play in the same league as the Incredible yet.
In addition to my personal encounters of sluggishness on 2 Fascinates, 1 Vibrant, 1 Captivate, and 1 Epic 4G, a few of the reviews I read mention this problem as well:
"More than once the phone locked up doing what we considered to be basic tasks, such as switching between apps or back to the homescreen. The Fascinate just seemed to stall out, often at the most inconvenient times, and we were left to simply wait until it sorted out whatever memory or processor issues it seemed to be having. Comparatively, a device like the Incredible rarely if ever stalled out on us, even during heavy use."
Engadget, September 7, 2010
"...That’s not to say Samsung has no room for improvement...we still observed a few of the periodic stalls that mar the overall user experience."
Slash Gear, September 7, 2010
"As much as I like the UI I did find some of the menu pops and screen flips to stutter a bit."
Geek, September 17, 2010
It's not like the phone is "slow", it just stutters and holds in places the Incredible never did, like the lock screen, or pulling down the notification bar, or when long pressing to get menus, even with the lag fix, TWLauncher removed, and no live wallpaper (which are tweaks I have done to ALL US flavors of this phone). Even flipping between home screens on the Incredible is noticeably faster than any Galaxy S when both phones have Launcher Pro installed. I think it's just a question of pickiness when it comes to the smoothness of animations. Again, I have noticed these issues on EVERY Galaxy S phone I have encountered, not a single, possibly defective, phone.
I really, really want this phone to live up to it's fancy hardware through development from the great people around here, which is why I will probably keep it as a sort of investment. Here's to hoping the community around it continues to grow!
My Incredible with Froyo does not compare to the Fascinate with Eclair (no lag fix, TW still present but running LauncherPro Plus).
It's not even close.
Battery life on the Fascinate is phenomenal compared to the Incredible. The only thing I miss on the Incredible is the support (duh, it's been out since April 29) and the optical trackpad (makes editing text much easier).
I know there is alot of debate on the entire skins vs AOSP, ive decided to write my reasons for sticking with Sense instead of AOSP. we all know sense was introduced to make android faster and eaiser to use it was great but as android started to grow the need for sense started shritting away, that was until sense 4.0, but ive always been a fan of sense from my first android phone, Evo 4G then Evo 3D and now with the Evo LTE. i can say ive experanced every major release of sense dare i say from TouchFlo (and TF3D), 1.0, 1.1, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1 and even played with Sense 4.5. ive seen sense evolve througout the year and while i do admit it may be a memory hog (Shivers at WinMo 6.1 TouchFlo 3D) i cant just help but also admit it's beauty. i honestly feel not only sense adds slight improvemnts to the software (I.E. First with the "Sync Widget" and the photo Grid Widget and even the ionic sense weather/clock, native facebook intergration). Now to the things i appricate about sense, the camera interface. I find AOSP camera to be boring and plain, sense camera's have always been something beautiful to look at with added features like distoration, hot,cold, thermal, greyscale, Dots even 3D, and now with the ImageSense chip to handle camera processing it just got even better. another thing i used to love about sense was the email client, while i have to admit it had sync issues(I.E. MSN email were still marked unread on PC) it has a beautiful yet user friendly interface,SMS/MMS also shared this. The Status Bar has always had solid icons, i refuse to theme the status bar because alot of themes feel out of place Huge numbers on battery out of place icons ETC. the sense browser has always been in my top 3 brower list, it soild smooth and wordwrap is a benifit i wish chrome & Stock had. one thing i find underrated is 4.x multitasking. HTC designed recent apps based on what many users loved. WebOS card's. HTC took the card idea and tossed there taste into it. Sense Gives android a clean cut feel to it, it is beautiful (had if HTC would've Given us the extra gig of ram it would have been even snappier). Now some improvements i would like to see in sense are pretty simple, First id like to see the Holo effect i admire HTC for giving us a pretty much Stock Dock but sense is missing the Holo Effect which in my opinion is an amazing feature in AOSP, also as mentioned above, an extra Gig of ram would'nt hurt us but i think HTC will leanr from the X line and add addtional Ram in the future.
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i would also like to include im not bashing AOSP, but for my phone i prefer Sense where on my TF i prefer AOSP
Whats with the novels people are writing lately, who was time to read all that! Kidding...
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PhyscoAssassinx said:
I know there is alot of debate on the entire skins vs AOSP, ive decided to write my reasons for sticking with Sense instead of AOSP.
we all know sense was introduced to make android faster and eaiser to use it was great but as android started to grow the need for sense started shritting away, that was until sense 4.0, but ive always been a fan of sense from my first android phone,
Evo 4G then Evo 3D and now with the Evo LTE. i can say ive experanced every major release of sense dare i say from TouchFlo (and TF3D), 1.0, 1.1, 2.1, 3.0, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, 4.1 and even played with Sense 4.5. ive seen sense evolve througout the year and while i do admit it may be a memory hog (Shivers at WinMo 6.1 TouchFlo 3D) i cant just help but also admit it's beauty.
i honestly feel not only sense adds slight improvemnts to the software (I.E. First with the "Sync Widget" and the photo Grid Widget and even the ionic sense weather/clock, native facebook intergration).
Now to the things i appricate about sense, the camera interface. I find AOSP camera to be boring and plain, sense camera's have always been something beautiful to look at with added features like distoration, hot,cold, thermal, greyscale, Dots even 3D, and now with the ImageSense chip to handle camera processing it just got even better. another thing i used to love about sense was the email client, while i have to admit it had sync issues(I.E. MSN email were still marked unread on PC) it has a beautiful yet user friendly interface,SMS/MMS also shared this.
The Status Bar has always had solid icons, i refuse to theme the status bar because alot of themes feel out of place Huge numbers on battery out of place icons ETC. the sense browser has always been in my top 3 brower list, it soild smooth and wordwrap is a benifit i wish chrome & Stock had. one thing i find underrated is 4.x multitasking. HTC designed recent apps based on what many users loved. WebOS card's. HTC took the card idea and tossed there taste into it.
Sense Gives android a clean cut feel to it, it is beautiful (had if HTC would've Given us the extra gig of ram it would have been even snappier). Now some improvements i would like to see in sense are pretty simple, First id like to see the Holo effect i admire HTC for giving us a pretty much Stock Dock but sense is missing the Holo Effect which in my opinion is an amazing feature in AOSP, also as mentioned above, an extra Gig of ram would'nt hurt us but i think HTC will leanr from the X line and add addtional Ram in the future.
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i would also like to include im not bashing AOSP, but for my phone i prefer Sense where on my TF i prefer AOSP
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There we go, a bit easier on the eye. :cyclops:
I'm really mad they tied that ImageSense chip into the SenseUI. By the time anyone in AOSP manages to merge it, the phone will be outdated.
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I'm really mad they tied that ImageSense chip into the SenseUI. By the time anyone in AOSP manages to merge it, the phone will be outdated.
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As far as I know they already have ._.
I tried AOSP out a few days ago (CM10) and I was able to take pictures while recording video, and picture taking was about as fast as normal.
I also heard that they merged it into AOSP awhile back.
But I could be wrong on what the ImageSense chip is in charge of, but I thought it handled that.
All that was required was porting the libs over and they have successfully merged the libraries already. There are still some things that can't be done yet. At this point the underpinnings are there but the software has to catch up
2 things:.
1. AOSP browser has word wrap. If you mean text reflow (like, a column maintaining screen width at any zoom level).
2. You LIKE sense 4 multitasking?!
How? It DOESNT multitask. It closes everything as soon as you leave it. Hell, zeppelinrocks and others have been working long trying to fix it.
I feel like I just stepped into bizarro world.
hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.
scottspa74 said:
2 things:.
1. AOSP browser has word wrap. If you mean text reflow (like, a column maintaining screen width at any zoom level).
2. You LIKE sense 4 multitasking?!
How? It DOESNT multitask. It closes everything as soon as you leave it. Hell, zeppelinrocks and others have been working long trying to fix it.
I feel like I just stepped into bizarro world.
hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.
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It doesn't reflow on my tablet and yes I like sense 4 multitasking, it works fine with me, again this differs from user to user many people on here hate it many people on here loves it I'm not expecting any one to agree with me out trying to change anyone's mind just my personal opinion on sense
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notsointeresting said:
As far as I know they already have ._.
I tried AOSP out a few days ago (CM10) and I was able to take pictures while recording video, and picture taking was about as fast as normal.
I also heard that they merged it into AOSP awhile back.
But I could be wrong on what the ImageSense chip is in charge of, but I thought it handled that.
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Nah, CM10 uses the stock Android camera; they'd have to engineer the drivers for that chip from scratch. The ImageSense chip speeds things up dramatically and does a great deal of image processing... Supposedly they're legally required to eventually release the source for it, but the way things go it doesn't end up getting released until the device is nearing EOL, if at all. Please note that I have no inside information on this, this is just what I've picked up on these boards, as it's an important topic to me. As much as I like CM10, I don't like the idea of software that gimps my hardware.
^^^^^^^ what do you mean, "nah" ?
Yes, you absolutely can take stills while video recording in AOSP. I'm on AOKP and just did it.
I will say that in sense, taking a still while recording resulted in a pic that was crisper and sharper than any standalone pic I could take , while in AOSP, the still from video tends to be a bit blurry for me.
hurled from my AOKP'd Evo LTE. Enjoy.
I guess I'll add my opinion into this. I'm honestly a big sense fan. I've used the galaxy nexus for a few weeks, and tried out the galaxy S III. Now, what I love about AOSP is that everything is fast, and it works extremely well. (At least for the galaxy nexus.) I'm not a big fan of how much of a memory hog sense is, nor its bizarre multitasking, but I love the way sense integrates social networks. I'm a huge, facebook/tweeter users, and I hated how stock Android doesn't have as many options as Sense to integrate the two. Everything was centered around Google Plus, and none of the people I talk to are on Google plus, so it's pretty much useless to me. SO, Social network integration is a plus for me, as far as sense is concerned. Also, I love the little nuances in the design, like the weather animation, and widgets. I just only wish, sense wasn't so laggy, and HTC added some of the extras that you find in Touchwiz on the Galaxy S III.
I agree, I like sense more than touchwiz. I had the first galaxy s, and I liked a few of the added customizations, and I've played around with the s3. It's a very nice phone with a lot of little options. The one thing I like the most about touchwiz is the contacts, swipe left on a name to call and swipe right to message (or vice versa, can't remember). That's a nice little touch. Other than that and the lack of good multitasking, I think sense is very nice and user friendly.
I like sense but sometimes I get this crazy long lag when loading my text messages. Doesn't happen all the time and seems pretty random but its not just text messages. Sometimes it happens opening people or when trying to create a new message, it doesn't auto fill who I'm looking up for a good 15 seconds. Annoying and I'm pretty sure it's sense's fault. I had CM7 on my og Evo for about a year and I like stock android, got the Nexus 7 and it's great. I'm running stock on my Evo LTE and I'm not rooted but I'm seriously thinking about it just to get rid of that lag, it's rare enough that I might just update to jellybean when it comes out and hope it's fixed because it didn't do it until my first update. Also it takes way to long to launch sense when you've been in the browser for a while and hit home. Loading... Loading...
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Hi,
I'm from Indonesia, and i own Xperia Ray now, and i am interested on Razr Maxx because of the battery life but beside that, i also expect the non laggy performance of a dual core and 1GB of RAM.
Can the Razr Maxx be recommended for me at this time of year? Fyi, the Razr Maxx is still +- 500 USD Sim free on my country, while Acro S is around the same price, and SGS3 for around 650USD. Meanwhile the original RAZR is around 350USD (on discount) and Galaxy Nexus for 330USD. the Razr Maxx HD, which is my dream phone, is still unclear whether it will come to my country on the future, regarding of Motorola decision to reduce the Asia Pasific scope.
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
Should i choose another phone? Or should i wait for the Razr Maxx HD? Really need your input who owns RAZR Maxx Thanks for any input
PS: I prefer not having a Samsung device cause of the TouchWiz. My preferences is to use ICS UI, or any UI that is unobtrusive to the ICS core UI (like Sony's )
Nobody likes to answer?
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hansip87 said:
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
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I won't be too worried about the existing hardware on the Razr Maxx. I'm running ICS very smoothly, and while I'm not running any super high advanced programs, nothing I've tired to run has slowed it down at all.
That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
Sure, these are both relatively minor things, but they'll start adding up. Two months later there will be something else the Maxx can't do that others can. Then another thing, then another thing.
Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
That's not to say I hate my Maxx right now. I don't, not at all. But with smartphones the technology comes rapid fire. What was top of the line 12 months ago is average now, and obsolete 12 months later. You'd be buying average right now, not top of the line.
Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
Hi Red and Draxin, thx for the Reply
RedRamage said:
That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
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About the Onboard buttons, myself actually don't mind with the onboard button, i actually like it more than the on screen button which takes up some real estate. About the photosphere, i'm not sure but shouldn't it work on all Android phone? I mean, if Google Sky Map can work, why not Photosphere? and with this sheet of details of Razr Maxx being real, i won't count it out too quickly http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/behind-the-glass-a-detailed-tour-inside-the-motorola-droid-razr/
RedRamage said:
Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
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Yup you're right, but in Indonesia, the RAZR Maxx was launched June 2012, seems the phone cycle is not as fast as it is on USA or other places. There is not even one Snapdragon S4 based phone here today, the highest only SGS3 for now, even the Bond Phone doesn't show it's nose while the film is already on the theaters.. really digging for Xperia T/TX but with my experience with a 1500mAh battery on Ray, i'm not sure that i want to have those flagship phones with meager battery capacity anymore..
Myself is not really a tech maniac on the phone side. All i want are smooth experience, no lag operation with great battery life. so if it is smooth and can live long, i'm all for it if i am a tech maniac, surely i will set my eyes on the Xperia T or TX, or Nexus 4 maybe but once again battery life hinders them
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Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
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Thanks for the input too I'm more of an internet guy, the games that i like to play are the simple ones like Angry Birds or Bad Piggies, all those HD games is just too hard to play with on screen control so not my cup of tea. but majority of my current phone's battery goes to Internet related application like Maps and Browser.
The standard Razr is really tempting though, at 350USD it is a really cool phone to be had.. but well if only the Maxx battery can be plugged in
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If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
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Well, i am okay with no kernel modification, as long as i can root at least, it's okay it is rootable isn't it?
Thanks guys, your inputs are helpful, if any please give me more input that would be greatly appreciated. :good:
I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
vash_h said:
I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Ou, ok.. :-/ Could you describe the lag you experienced? How's the situation with Live wallpaper enabled? Hmm.. or should i wait for that Jelly Bean update first? Holy smokes maybe RAZR Maxx HD or Razr i will be here then #reallyhopeso
The phone is not laggy for me in stock ics...
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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When i came to look around at local Phone store booth, the Standard Razr was on display and it ran on ICS, so yeah i am sure the update is already available.
Well, with ICS already at near stock condition, i think i don't need to flash custom ROM i think.. Just remove those bloatware (if any, thank God no Verizon here ) and it should be decent performer i think
Seems like i will take the plunge at year's end, maybe the phone will be on sale around 400US$ later.. will pray for that Thanks all
Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
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Hmmm.. i'm confused, i mean, some guys say it is fast, some say it's slower.. Well, with my own experience on demo booth, the interface is quite fast, but as always, anything without user apps is definitely fast..
@vash_h: if you're on clean state after FDR, is it still laggy for you?
Oh yes, when I'm with friends and using phone on vacation (androidele) after 2 days my battery still has power .
My Maxx works perfectly(ICS 4.0.4)has no lag and fly on the network (beware of programs installed)
Razr Maxx Amazing
I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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He3.. Seems like you are really enjoying your phone so want this phone now X)
I am not a ROM junkies fortunately, as long as it is smooth riding and has quick toggles on status bar, then i'm all for it
I am also preparing to get the RAZR Maxx end of the year when my current provider's contract ends (then I can switch to the provider that has the RAZR Maxx and keep my number). I saw the RAZR on a good deal, but it looks like the phone is no longer available in South Africa. But the MAXX is a better option anyway. Hope my country has the ICS update! Although would love to use Cyanogenmod - which I'm currently using on my Milestone (but I could probably stick to stock for a while anyway before going custom).
Almost fell for the Huawei Ascend P1, but I hate the camera's bulge, and it's not really much of a better phone compared to the RAZR Maxx.
Now RAZR (Maxx) HD would be awesome, but I also don't know if we'll get it here.
Well, this phone has a good hardware. In deed, stock rom is a bit slow, but with some modifications you will have a really fast phone. Not to talk about custom roms... Great signal, design and feeling using it
I'm sure that it will be a great device after an year
i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
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Umm, So it lags like stuttering when installing/updating app and you do something else? or the phone seems to stop for a while on installing/updating app? Well my single core experience with my Xperia tells me that this kind of lag is common though. or is it I/O bottleneck i guess?
Just pre-ordered an HTC One X + from AT&T today. Comes with JB 4.1 I believe. Coming from iPhone (jailbroken of course.) I see there was also a recent announcement, something about 4.2 being released by Google to VOSD. Read some of the improvements in 4.2 and would love to have them. But frankly, I don't want to spend hours futzing with my phone or risk bricking it. On the other hand, I don't want to wait 6 months for HTC to release a 4.2 update.
Without any prior experience can someone throw me a bone. Will there be a 4.2 ROM here I can download that will be stable and how long do you estimate before it is available versus waiting for HTC?
I've heard good things about Sense, but if I consider myself to now be a lifelong Android user, isn't it better to get used to using a vanilla version of the OS instead of using some manufacturer-specific overlay like Sense? So should I install a custom ROM no matter what from that perspective or will I loose to many conveniences/features specific to the phone?
Finally, will I be able to go back to stock HTC ROM (whatever is the most recent version) for warranty/resale purposes if I don't wait for the HTC upgrades?
I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
So in a way, it seems you could consider Sense a package of apps/features, that you might otherwise install over the vanilla OS anyway? I suppose when I think about it, I spent hours to jailbreak and install Cydia apps on my iPhone to customize how the lock screen works, notification works, the spring board works, the wallpapers work, etc. So even though iOS interface is consistent from version to version, I always modify it to my liking - essentially building my own "Sense" for iPhone.
One thing I don't like is bloatware - apps installed that I don't need but can't install. And I'm sure the AT&T One X+ comes with plenty of it? (At least in Windows PC's you can uninstall the stuff.) So my gut is telling me I will still probably end up rooting and going with a custom ROM anyway. I'm mainly looking for stability and consistency for years to come, despite what device I own. Not that learning a new interface "flavor" has a steep learning curve, but it would be nice to "standardize" on one "flavor" be it Sense or CM10 + some specific launcher app, etc etc. To be honest I don't have hours and hours to experiment anymore so it may be best to take what HTC gives me and be done with it. But I know I will crave 4.2 when available just to see what's improved (I've read about it - not groundbreaking but better), so I guess I'll probably cave and give at least one custom ROM a try. Makes the phone more unique too, which is kind of a novelty. But ya, this stuff we are talking about is foreign to probably 90% of the smartphone users out there. So the devices wouldn't sell as well as they do if they had issues or were hard to use out of the box!
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I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
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Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
sense UI is the best for me among all the launchers.
i don't mind 4.1.1 vs 4..2 i don't think there's much changes anyways.
I have Jellybean 4.2 on my Nexus 7 and my old GNex. It is really buggy and the UI changes suck. There is battery drain, slow charging, instability and BT is broken. I rather have a stable Jellybean 4.1 and get a stable 4.2 in a few months on my Hox+.
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Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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Is there a verified working root for us ATT users yet? Saw a lot of talk about one which is why I'm asking. If so, any moon steps on how to root? I need it mainly for titanium backup to backup data files too and more tweaks.
Also hope someone can fix the broken Steele headset controls for this dang phone. All u can do is pause and play tracks from your wired or Bluetooth headset. Can't change tracks nor adjust volume from your stereo headset, huge fail for me! At the gym 5 days a week for hours and nothing worse then pulling this link out of my pocket the whole workout to manually change tracks and adjust volume for certain songs.
Hi !
I just want to know why people are so happy that JB come to the razr. What will really change ?
Thanks for the answer !
People are happy because we finally have a newer OS. Google Now, expendable notifications, Project Butter to name a few
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
A video of the original Droid Razr running android 4.1.2 would be exciting.
Alot of people are saying their updates failed. There are 4.2.1 roms though
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Search around and the forums and you will find a link to the OTA leak. Droid Life website had a link to it and that's where I got it.
I took it and applied it to my OG RAZR and not my MAXX since my MAXX is my everyday phone, so I wanted to stay on ICS for now (especially with tethering).
I will say this. I have seen a noticeable improvement in response, even in the stock BLUR launcher.
Games like Templerun are running smoother than they do under ICS without tweaking. Under ICS, I had to turn down or off window animations and transistions to .5 or off to get the same amount of smoothness I'm getting under JB. Under JB, I didn't have to tweak a single thing. Out of the box, the game runs smooth. Fruit Ninja was another one.
I believe this is all part of Project Butter where Google has gone and tweaked things under the hood to make the user experience much smoother and it definitely appears to be working that way under the JB leak. Otherwise, there isn't much difference. The lock screen is different, as is the status bar and a few other minor UI tweaks. But otherwise, it's ICS. I would say this update gets ICS much closer to what ICS should have been. It's an improvement, but it's more under-the-hood than it is aesthetically.
All I can say is, many doubted that JB would come to the OG RAZR and OG RAZR MAXX, but just like the Motorola update site said, it is coming. Why it was released by accident to too many people is something I don't understand, but let it be know to all the doubters, it IS coming and this is proof.