Difference between ICS and JB for razr - Motorola Droid RAZR

Hi !
I just want to know why people are so happy that JB come to the razr. What will really change ?
Thanks for the answer !

People are happy because we finally have a newer OS. Google Now, expendable notifications, Project Butter to name a few
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A video of the original Droid Razr running android 4.1.2 would be exciting.

Alot of people are saying their updates failed. There are 4.2.1 roms though
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Search around and the forums and you will find a link to the OTA leak. Droid Life website had a link to it and that's where I got it.
I took it and applied it to my OG RAZR and not my MAXX since my MAXX is my everyday phone, so I wanted to stay on ICS for now (especially with tethering).
I will say this. I have seen a noticeable improvement in response, even in the stock BLUR launcher.
Games like Templerun are running smoother than they do under ICS without tweaking. Under ICS, I had to turn down or off window animations and transistions to .5 or off to get the same amount of smoothness I'm getting under JB. Under JB, I didn't have to tweak a single thing. Out of the box, the game runs smooth. Fruit Ninja was another one.
I believe this is all part of Project Butter where Google has gone and tweaked things under the hood to make the user experience much smoother and it definitely appears to be working that way under the JB leak. Otherwise, there isn't much difference. The lock screen is different, as is the status bar and a few other minor UI tweaks. But otherwise, it's ICS. I would say this update gets ICS much closer to what ICS should have been. It's an improvement, but it's more under-the-hood than it is aesthetically.
All I can say is, many doubted that JB would come to the OG RAZR and OG RAZR MAXX, but just like the Motorola update site said, it is coming. Why it was released by accident to too many people is something I don't understand, but let it be know to all the doubters, it IS coming and this is proof.

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ICS vs Gingerbread

I actually like the look and feel of Sense on CleanRom GBE as opposed to CleanRom ICS. Anyone else feeling Gingerbread over Ice Cream Sandwich? The only things I really miss are the ICS browser with hardware acceleration, and the AOSP ICS widgets.
I'll chime in. I love ics and all it offers but everytime I restore a gb build, I'm blown away by the smoothness and speed. RezRomIcs seems the best I've tried.
So for now, gb, but I'm looking forward ics and sense 4.0 final builds.
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I will agree I also like the feel of GB over ICS.
I think ICS do require a little bit of time to get used to and settle in. I have used Xoom tablet with honecomb and also ICS 4.0 before got the rezound. After playing both, I have to say, I really love the feel of ICS and I cannot wait for the rezound to upgrade.
I have an Acer Iconia Tab and when I bought it, I had ICS on my Rezound. When I played with Honeycomb finally I was disappointed by it after having used ICS. I wasn't real happy with buying the tab but after installing a leaked ICS copy on the tab I realized how much I truly enjoy ICS. I agree GB is fast and fluid, but ICS is just sexy and will be on par or better than GB once a source code is released for it. Remember the rezound doesn't officially have ICS so the developers on here do an amazing job porting and polishing the roms to play nice. Coming from an OG Droid, to a Droid X, HTC Thunderbolt and now the Rezound I can truly say that I have seen great development for Android and look forward with whats to come.
ICS all the way.
I definitely prefer ICS, but I've held off on the ROMs until the official OTA comes out. It would probably be fine, but I don't mind waiting.
Jimi Mack said:
I will agree I also like the feel of GB over ICS.
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Same here.
With my Droid Incredible, I thought ICS was cool, but not fast or smooth enough for daily use. I feel the Rezound with RezRom 3.3 is very smooth though, I'm loving it. Hopefully the Sense 4.0 ROMs will become as fast soon.
I definitely prefer the Sense 3.6/4.0 dock to the 3.5 and earlier dock on the bottom of the screen. I love being keep a folder there with a handful of apps.
Jury is still out on my Kindle Fire though. I've tried out a couple ICS ROMs and I wish it was just a little faster.
I like elements of both. Really wish the M10 editor worked for the newer versions of sense though so we could customize lock rings and such. Got kinda spoiled.
Yeah , I am running the leaked ICS Ruu and have not had any real problems.
Phone runs fast and smooth and I really like it.
I for one can not wait for ICS, I had a great time with GB but now it's time to move on to newer and better things.
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I for one can not wait for ICS, I had a great time with GB but now it's time to move on to newer and better things.
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This.
ICS vs GB
ICS Google Maps has a different verbal 'directions' lady.
I prefer the voice in GB.
It would be awesome if they could do sense 4 on gb haha
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I am thinking about going back to GB since I haven't been on it since I got this phone. I mainly need to switch back for Skype to not have a green screen, family is getting tired of it. If anyone knows of Skype working good on ics, please tell me which rom you are running. I'm on bamf 2.1 and I've tried some sense4.0 but none work. Also, which GB rom is the best? Never thought I'd go back, so I never kept up with them.
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michaelbsheldon said:
ICS Google Maps has a different verbal 'directions' lady.
I prefer the voice in GB.
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I agree. The voice in ICS for verbal navigation is not good. I wonder what the reasoning behind choosing that voice was. The lady in GB wasn't great, but the one in ICS is atrocious.
chrisjz said:
Also, which GB rom is the best? Never thought I'd go back, so I never kept up with them.
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Best is obviously an opinion, but I like inneffabilis myself.
stelv said:
I agree. The voice in ICS for verbal navigation is not good. I wonder what the reasoning behind choosing that voice was. The lady in GB wasn't great, but the one in ICS is atrocious.
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And that's funny because I couldn't disagree more. I absolutely hated the GB voice, and the ICS is definitely an improvement.
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Aosp ICS> GB sense> ics sense

Razr very choppy and lagy with original rom 2.3.6 ?!?!?!?!

why, I bought a new motorola razr, the first thing I see its this phone is really choppy and have too much lag comparing with samsung or htc devices I have =/
I just don't understand why, my droid 3 is more faster than razr and only have 512mb
soo, what I think, its related with motorola ui and version off android?! Can we have a clean cm7 with everthing working, including the webtop and tv mirror?
please tell me, because I'm start to be desapointed with my razr. I have a rezound with stock rom and 2.3.4 version, and runs pretty well.....more, the evo 3d and droid 3 are fast too....
this razr is like galaxy ace with performance and opening applications
into the phone option when I press one character it will take like 3 seconds to apear one name with the character I press....the others phones only take 0.10ms
another thing...the WIFI connection....why its soo week
EclipseX said:
why, I bought a new motorola razr, the first thing I see its this phone is really choppy and have too much lag comparing with samsung or htc devices I have =/
I just don't understand why, my droid 3 is more faster than razr and only have 512mb
soo, what I think, its related with motorola ui and version off android?! Can we have a clean cm7 with everthing working, including the webtop and tv mirror?
please tell me, because I'm start to be desapointed with my razr. I have a rezound with stock rom and 2.3.4 version, and runs pretty well.....more, the evo 3d and droid 3 are fast too....
this razr is like galaxy ace with performance and opening applications
into the phone option when I press one character it will take like 3 seconds to apear one name with the character I press....the others phones only take 0.10ms
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try using other launcher. im using go launcher. its pretty smooth with email n calendar widget on screen.
I already try, I have the ics launcher for now. but its not normal you see =
soo I've got a score with quadrante 2491....=/ its too low comapring to 3000 from my droid 3
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I already try, I have the ics launcher for now. but its not normal you see =
soo I've got a score with quadrante 2491....=/ its too low comapring to 3000 from my droid 3
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I'd experienced the same laggy with stock system I got with my first Raz. Got a replacement, a new system but same sdcard wich I though was bad. It's running flawless now.
I think it's related to system version (or a bad intallation). Try a new rom. Do wipe data and cache. If the issue persist you may have got a defective device. Mine is running smoothly now.
Also I tried the Chinese ICS leak and the system get even better.
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another thing I found is my second cpu is offline
EclipseX said:
why, I bought a new motorola razr, the first thing I see its this phone is really choppy and have too much lag comparing with samsung or htc devices I have =/
I just don't understand why, my droid 3 is more faster than razr and only have 512mb
soo, what I think, its related with motorola ui and version off android?! Can we have a clean cm7 with everthing working, including the webtop and tv mirror?
please tell me, because I'm start to be desapointed with my razr. I have a rezound with stock rom and 2.3.4 version, and runs pretty well.....more, the evo 3d and droid 3 are fast too....
this razr is like galaxy ace with performance and opening applications
into the phone option when I press one character it will take like 3 seconds to apear one name with the character I press....the others phones only take 0.10ms
another thing...the WIFI connection....why its soo week
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I'm still asking myself why I still have this phone. It is laggy and choppy and I hate it. I bought a $300 phone and its **** honestly. The only thing that is keeping me from selling this phone is that I flashed the first leak of ICS and boy it our phone smooth. The first leak was fast, smooth, and just amazing. If official ICS isn't here by the end of may im getting a better phone.
really...its soo smoth? whats don't work? I almost want to install the leak one
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really...its soo smoth? whats don't work? I almost want to install the leak one
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I am using the ICS leak 6.14.75 with Apex launcher and for me it's smooth. Quadrant score is around 3000 plus or minus. What's not working varies case by case from what I read in the forum but for me, only three issues so far.
1. Battery level is way off when I first flashed it but now seems fine after I wiped cache and reset. I also used a free battery calibrate app from the market.
2. Sometimes I need to press power button twice to wake up the phone. Maybe it's because I don't have screen lock on but I don't care much. I am pretty sure it's a bug in this version.
3. 3g/4g icon sometimes shows in notification bar even when data is off. But again I don't care because I mainly use widgets to show my data ON/OFF anyway.
I am actually debating if I want to move on to official ICS when it's available. There are a lot more bloats to be add on the official release. With the leaked version I can uninstall any bloat in the system app without worrying about future OTA since leaked ICS won't get OTA anyway LOL. This is just a personal preference. I don't like anything that I don't use in my device.
Are you using Rom Toolbox (or some other tool), and changed the governor?
You want mot_hotplug unless you have a specific reason NOT to use it.
You'll get very choppy response with the ondemand governor.
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I don't find any lag on mine..its rooted and on stock ROM 2.3.6, Asia version. And I am using Go Launcher EX at the moment.. Its smooth as butter..
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im having the same problem with the stock, never rooted latest update. before it was butter, now its laggy as all hell.
I have the original mode in processor
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Missing GB?

Anyone missing GB yet? I love ICS, don't get me wrong but I got to say I miss GB a lot. It was a lot nicer looking and I miss the lockscreen. It also seemed a bit more stable. Your thoughts?
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I guess you missed the right section
But no, I don't wanna to go back to GB. I'm looking forward to nice ICS Custom Life :thumbup:
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Well when I finally get it I will be glad to post my thoughts
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Im happy with ics. I love the way it looks. Happier with the way it works. There are some things i would change but not much.
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No, I absolutely LOVE ICS in comparison to GB. It runs much more smoother. My only issue is that the battery life seems slightly worse than it was on GB. But the thing is, every upGRADE will eventually receive an upDATE once people start complaining of various issues/bugs etc.
I actually miss the GB text messaging app. It was cleaner looking to me. I dont like pictures of myself when I type a reply and I dont really like using a 3rd party app. Might have to though...
Other than that, I am happy with the .211 update. I actually really like the new lock screen.
I don't miss anything in GB but IMO, ICS is not as exciting as some people make it out to be. I think some people will be disappointed.
I think the more I use ICS the more I love it.
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I'm not on ice cream sandwich yet, but i've been looking at review after review, and see people going insane because they dont have it. They go as far as even switching phones because they didnt get the update soon enough, what is this stupidity? The phone version of ice cream sandwich looks great, as does the tablet version. However, the new webtop sucks in comparison. It seems much less useful, and it really sucks. I want to dump standard computers and use my phone as my main machine, i was one step closer to that with a ubuntu based webtop. This is frustrating.
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Well i updated to the ice cream sandwich OTA last night, and i say "updated" instead of "upgraded" because this is no upgrade. I will admit, this thing is blazing fast and super responsive, i love that. Also the camera, it is a lot better than the gingerbread one, so that's a plus. That, however, is where the positives end. I have been using Launcherpro for its calendar widget for 3 years now, and there is none that are good enough aside from that, and the damn thing crashes contantly on ice cream sandwich. Not to mention, you can't have a seperate launcher for webtop, so you're stuck with the stock sucky one, or having one built for a phone on the webtop. The webtop itself is just terrible, it's not even a tablet image, it looks like it's just a scaled up version of the one already on the phone with the tablet status bar. I used to run firefox in one window, and something else in the mobile view on the old one, can't do that anymore. From what i've seen, i cant go back either. Finally, i havent been able to get any usb mass storage devices to mount on the phone via OTG cable, but a usb mouse works just fine. Neither fat32 nor NTFS would work, even though they both work on my ice cream sandwich tablet, and are supposed to be supported. This "update" is just terrible and i have no idea how any of you can say it's so much better....
i miss ome things fro GB, but i love some of the things of ICS, it goes both ways for me. i like the loook of ics, the lockscreen, camera. hate the home screen, appdrawer (cant long press home screen for widgets), this ics is slower then my GB, smoother but slower, it does a better job at hiding lag. and the battery life on my ics is about 3-5 hours less then it was on GB. i hate how there is no google chrome for this ics version, really annoying cause i was using it on some of the other ics leaks and fell in love with it. but now its not on this ics version and by far one of the best things about ICS is webtop 3.0. GB was on 2.0 and i hated it compared to the 3.0, 2.0 was ugly and lacking customization and had poor and ugly UI. webtop 3.0 just makes me so happy.
as more updates roll out (eventually) ill be a little more satisfied with ICS
I just received a GSM XT910 Razr a few days ago, and have been holding out on even using it in hopes of the ICS update rolling out for it within the next few days or so. I'm starting to wonder if I should even bother waiting anymore and should just keep it on Gingerbread, given how much complaints I'm already reading on ICS. This is the exact same scenario with my current phone, an Sony Xperia Arc...the ICS update did NOT do it any favors and there's been widespread reports of ICS being incredibly laggy on it. I ended up deciding to leave my Arc on Gingerbread.
It's ironic how everybody's been making ICS sound like it's an absolute must-have for months upon months now, and yet when it's finally released, it seems like such a botched job for most phones thus far. I know somebody with a T-mobile Galaxy SII that got their ICS update only to find all sorts of problems with it as well. I think the bottom line is, unless you're running a Nexus device, ICS is nothing to write home about.
If I hear about any more possible delays to an ICS update for the unlocked XT910, which it's starting to look more and more like what will happen, I may very well just forget about ICS and stick to Gingerbread...
me me me..!
i miss BEATS AUDIO plugin..!
is there any way to port it in ICS???
ICS has gotten way more hype than it deserves, but it is a major improvement over GB. I like the look much better, although there are a couple of things I wish MOTO had incorporated, like power toggles on the pull down notification and the accurate battery.

Is RAZR Maxx still a viable smartphone as of end of 2012?

Hi,
I'm from Indonesia, and i own Xperia Ray now, and i am interested on Razr Maxx because of the battery life but beside that, i also expect the non laggy performance of a dual core and 1GB of RAM.
Can the Razr Maxx be recommended for me at this time of year? Fyi, the Razr Maxx is still +- 500 USD Sim free on my country, while Acro S is around the same price, and SGS3 for around 650USD. Meanwhile the original RAZR is around 350USD (on discount) and Galaxy Nexus for 330USD. the Razr Maxx HD, which is my dream phone, is still unclear whether it will come to my country on the future, regarding of Motorola decision to reduce the Asia Pasific scope.
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
Should i choose another phone? Or should i wait for the Razr Maxx HD? Really need your input who owns RAZR Maxx Thanks for any input
PS: I prefer not having a Samsung device cause of the TouchWiz. My preferences is to use ICS UI, or any UI that is unobtrusive to the ICS core UI (like Sony's )
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hansip87 said:
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
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I won't be too worried about the existing hardware on the Razr Maxx. I'm running ICS very smoothly, and while I'm not running any super high advanced programs, nothing I've tired to run has slowed it down at all.
That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
Sure, these are both relatively minor things, but they'll start adding up. Two months later there will be something else the Maxx can't do that others can. Then another thing, then another thing.
Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
That's not to say I hate my Maxx right now. I don't, not at all. But with smartphones the technology comes rapid fire. What was top of the line 12 months ago is average now, and obsolete 12 months later. You'd be buying average right now, not top of the line.
Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
Hi Red and Draxin, thx for the Reply
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That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
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About the Onboard buttons, myself actually don't mind with the onboard button, i actually like it more than the on screen button which takes up some real estate. About the photosphere, i'm not sure but shouldn't it work on all Android phone? I mean, if Google Sky Map can work, why not Photosphere? and with this sheet of details of Razr Maxx being real, i won't count it out too quickly http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/behind-the-glass-a-detailed-tour-inside-the-motorola-droid-razr/
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Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
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Yup you're right, but in Indonesia, the RAZR Maxx was launched June 2012, seems the phone cycle is not as fast as it is on USA or other places. There is not even one Snapdragon S4 based phone here today, the highest only SGS3 for now, even the Bond Phone doesn't show it's nose while the film is already on the theaters.. really digging for Xperia T/TX but with my experience with a 1500mAh battery on Ray, i'm not sure that i want to have those flagship phones with meager battery capacity anymore..
Myself is not really a tech maniac on the phone side. All i want are smooth experience, no lag operation with great battery life. so if it is smooth and can live long, i'm all for it if i am a tech maniac, surely i will set my eyes on the Xperia T or TX, or Nexus 4 maybe but once again battery life hinders them
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Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
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Thanks for the input too I'm more of an internet guy, the games that i like to play are the simple ones like Angry Birds or Bad Piggies, all those HD games is just too hard to play with on screen control so not my cup of tea. but majority of my current phone's battery goes to Internet related application like Maps and Browser.
The standard Razr is really tempting though, at 350USD it is a really cool phone to be had.. but well if only the Maxx battery can be plugged in
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If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
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Well, i am okay with no kernel modification, as long as i can root at least, it's okay it is rootable isn't it?
Thanks guys, your inputs are helpful, if any please give me more input that would be greatly appreciated. :good:
I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
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I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
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Ou, ok.. :-/ Could you describe the lag you experienced? How's the situation with Live wallpaper enabled? Hmm.. or should i wait for that Jelly Bean update first? Holy smokes maybe RAZR Maxx HD or Razr i will be here then #reallyhopeso
The phone is not laggy for me in stock ics...
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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When i came to look around at local Phone store booth, the Standard Razr was on display and it ran on ICS, so yeah i am sure the update is already available.
Well, with ICS already at near stock condition, i think i don't need to flash custom ROM i think.. Just remove those bloatware (if any, thank God no Verizon here ) and it should be decent performer i think
Seems like i will take the plunge at year's end, maybe the phone will be on sale around 400US$ later.. will pray for that Thanks all
Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
vash_h said:
Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Hmmm.. i'm confused, i mean, some guys say it is fast, some say it's slower.. Well, with my own experience on demo booth, the interface is quite fast, but as always, anything without user apps is definitely fast..
@vash_h: if you're on clean state after FDR, is it still laggy for you?
Oh yes, when I'm with friends and using phone on vacation (androidele) after 2 days my battery still has power .
My Maxx works perfectly(ICS 4.0.4)has no lag and fly on the network (beware of programs installed)
Razr Maxx Amazing
I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
traitor123 said:
I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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He3.. Seems like you are really enjoying your phone so want this phone now X)
I am not a ROM junkies fortunately, as long as it is smooth riding and has quick toggles on status bar, then i'm all for it
I am also preparing to get the RAZR Maxx end of the year when my current provider's contract ends (then I can switch to the provider that has the RAZR Maxx and keep my number). I saw the RAZR on a good deal, but it looks like the phone is no longer available in South Africa. But the MAXX is a better option anyway. Hope my country has the ICS update! Although would love to use Cyanogenmod - which I'm currently using on my Milestone (but I could probably stick to stock for a while anyway before going custom).
Almost fell for the Huawei Ascend P1, but I hate the camera's bulge, and it's not really much of a better phone compared to the RAZR Maxx.
Now RAZR (Maxx) HD would be awesome, but I also don't know if we'll get it here.
Well, this phone has a good hardware. In deed, stock rom is a bit slow, but with some modifications you will have a really fast phone. Not to talk about custom roms... Great signal, design and feeling using it
I'm sure that it will be a great device after an year
i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
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Umm, So it lags like stuttering when installing/updating app and you do something else? or the phone seems to stop for a while on installing/updating app? Well my single core experience with my Xperia tells me that this kind of lag is common though. or is it I/O bottleneck i guess?

Why does anyone care about jellybean?

Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
I think it's mostly just human nature at play. People always crave what they can't have. Or they want the next best thing. Those desires, plus greed, are what move societies along the development continuum. I'm not trying to make this a bad thing - its how we move forward. I just can't stand the crying and complaining from some.
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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LMAO!!!! Posted that on Facebook, nice reply Flapps
Project Butter or Buffer
Anthony820 said:
Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
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If you ever played with a JB device everything is smooth and fast.
The advances made to the drop down window are worth it alone.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I717 using xda premium
flappjaxxx said:
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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I would definitely agree with that statement
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
Project butter, Google now, Google keeps giving.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
I couldn't care less about project butter..smoothness is nice, but I'm not kid. I don't need to show up my iPhone carrying friends with how amazingly my phone transitions from swipe to swipe...
Google now however...now that is worth an upgrade.
While I am so greatfull that some excellent devs have brought a half decent port to ICS ROMs...it is just that- half decent compared to it's current incarnation on job ROMs.
If there is one thing that saddens me about us being no longer in line to receive official JB on our phones, it's that we may never see the latest enhancements to GN. We have to hope that some poor, glutton for punishment dev, takes up the cause and brings us these. Unfortunately, from what I've read, this will require a complete overhaul and will need to be started from the ground up as Google has made a lot of changes to bring greater speed and functionality to search...My understanding is that, at present, there is no dev crazy enough to undertake this...
Although....ahem....cough...cough.....I have ....on occasion, ....you know....kinda questioned flapjaxxx's sanity:laugh:
If anyone can...FJ can...
but he still needs source, or it's a dead stick....
My wife has the Note2, and I gotta say, that it's a smooth and sweet running machine on Official JB.
I've always viewed ICS as the "windows ME" version of android...runs ok, but just kinda glitchy, and ultimately the stepping stone for the next generation of good software.
JB official is some badazz software...IMHO....g
I second that!!!
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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oh, so THAT's why my battery dies in record time. I loss 10% while drawing a picture

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