I actually like the look and feel of Sense on CleanRom GBE as opposed to CleanRom ICS. Anyone else feeling Gingerbread over Ice Cream Sandwich? The only things I really miss are the ICS browser with hardware acceleration, and the AOSP ICS widgets.
I'll chime in. I love ics and all it offers but everytime I restore a gb build, I'm blown away by the smoothness and speed. RezRomIcs seems the best I've tried.
So for now, gb, but I'm looking forward ics and sense 4.0 final builds.
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I will agree I also like the feel of GB over ICS.
I think ICS do require a little bit of time to get used to and settle in. I have used Xoom tablet with honecomb and also ICS 4.0 before got the rezound. After playing both, I have to say, I really love the feel of ICS and I cannot wait for the rezound to upgrade.
I have an Acer Iconia Tab and when I bought it, I had ICS on my Rezound. When I played with Honeycomb finally I was disappointed by it after having used ICS. I wasn't real happy with buying the tab but after installing a leaked ICS copy on the tab I realized how much I truly enjoy ICS. I agree GB is fast and fluid, but ICS is just sexy and will be on par or better than GB once a source code is released for it. Remember the rezound doesn't officially have ICS so the developers on here do an amazing job porting and polishing the roms to play nice. Coming from an OG Droid, to a Droid X, HTC Thunderbolt and now the Rezound I can truly say that I have seen great development for Android and look forward with whats to come.
ICS all the way.
I definitely prefer ICS, but I've held off on the ROMs until the official OTA comes out. It would probably be fine, but I don't mind waiting.
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I will agree I also like the feel of GB over ICS.
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Same here.
With my Droid Incredible, I thought ICS was cool, but not fast or smooth enough for daily use. I feel the Rezound with RezRom 3.3 is very smooth though, I'm loving it. Hopefully the Sense 4.0 ROMs will become as fast soon.
I definitely prefer the Sense 3.6/4.0 dock to the 3.5 and earlier dock on the bottom of the screen. I love being keep a folder there with a handful of apps.
Jury is still out on my Kindle Fire though. I've tried out a couple ICS ROMs and I wish it was just a little faster.
I like elements of both. Really wish the M10 editor worked for the newer versions of sense though so we could customize lock rings and such. Got kinda spoiled.
Yeah , I am running the leaked ICS Ruu and have not had any real problems.
Phone runs fast and smooth and I really like it.
I for one can not wait for ICS, I had a great time with GB but now it's time to move on to newer and better things.
fceeviper said:
I for one can not wait for ICS, I had a great time with GB but now it's time to move on to newer and better things.
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This.
ICS vs GB
ICS Google Maps has a different verbal 'directions' lady.
I prefer the voice in GB.
It would be awesome if they could do sense 4 on gb haha
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I am thinking about going back to GB since I haven't been on it since I got this phone. I mainly need to switch back for Skype to not have a green screen, family is getting tired of it. If anyone knows of Skype working good on ics, please tell me which rom you are running. I'm on bamf 2.1 and I've tried some sense4.0 but none work. Also, which GB rom is the best? Never thought I'd go back, so I never kept up with them.
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michaelbsheldon said:
ICS Google Maps has a different verbal 'directions' lady.
I prefer the voice in GB.
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I agree. The voice in ICS for verbal navigation is not good. I wonder what the reasoning behind choosing that voice was. The lady in GB wasn't great, but the one in ICS is atrocious.
chrisjz said:
Also, which GB rom is the best? Never thought I'd go back, so I never kept up with them.
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Best is obviously an opinion, but I like inneffabilis myself.
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I agree. The voice in ICS for verbal navigation is not good. I wonder what the reasoning behind choosing that voice was. The lady in GB wasn't great, but the one in ICS is atrocious.
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And that's funny because I couldn't disagree more. I absolutely hated the GB voice, and the ICS is definitely an improvement.
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Aosp ICS> GB sense> ics sense
Related
Here is what HTC had to say on ics updates to our devices...
We are excited about the latest update for Android, Ice Cream Sandwich, and are currently reviewing its features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. Our goal for Android updates is to give every customer an improved user experience, which means balancing each phone's unique hardware, HTC Sense experience and the Android kernel. While our goal is to upgrade as many of our recent devices as possible, we are committed to maintaining every phone's performance and usability first. Please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans.
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heres a link to the article on engadget about it.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/19/htc-were-reviewing-ice-cream-sandwich-and-determining-our-plan/
What engadget points out is very interesting. some of HTC's Sense features seem to be in ICS to an extent and kinda makes Sense a lil pointless. Less I'm missing something. Right now after going through ICS I'm trying to figure out what I will be missing/losing with Sense. That is beside the Sense app versions like camera, dialer and such which are differ.
Mm idk ICS looks really good as it is , so HTC should go back to stock as much as possible, I wonder if we can layout how we want to use are buttons now ? And if qHD will have nice support in the market finally
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i don't think release of ICS is helping HTC at all. after viewing ICS UI, i don't see a reason to use sense anymore. it's starting to loose its selling points. unless they make a major upgrades on sense, HTC's future looks dark.(yes, i will get galaxy nexus soon as they release)
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i don't think release of ICS is helping HTC at all. after viewing ICS UI, i don't see a reason to use sense anymore. it's starting to loose its selling points. unless they make a major upgrades on sense, HTC's future looks dark.(yes, i will get galaxy nexus soon as they release)
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Mm i don't really like dark themes too much. Gingerbread was a bit too dark for my taste and now ICS is looking dark theme I wonder why they went the way instead ,in a side not I think everyone forgot about the moto rzer lol
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The only things I would miss from sense are:
Dialer
Weather integration
Facebook integration. A one that works unlike the Facebook app.
Lockscreen
Widgets
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jgalan14 said:
Mm idk ICS looks really good as it is , so HTC should go back to stock as much as possible, I wonder if we can layout how we want to use are buttons now ? And if qHD will have nice support in the market finally
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evank418 said:
i don't think release of ICS is helping HTC at all. after viewing ICS UI, i don't see a reason to use sense anymore. it's starting to loose its selling points. unless they make a major upgrades on sense, HTC's future looks dark.(yes, i will get galaxy nexus soon as they release)
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I couldn't agree more.
Sense improved on features, usability and appearance and if you watched the keynote last night, that was the same focus for ICS.
I wouldn't mind having ICS vanilla.
fr0st420 said:
The only things I would miss from sense are:
Dialer
Weather integration
Facebook integration. A one that works unlike the Facebook app.
Lockscreen
Widgets
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weather integration is something they will keep and the animations and just have it be an HTC Sense app and not so much of a sense overlay as in past.
as for the lockscreen, the new one takes a lot from htc sense 3.0 lockscreen im pretty sure and you can access apps form it.
again the more i look at ICS the more i lean toward going senseless as they hit the ball out with this upgrade. always a sense fan but can't imagine what they could do to this to make it better past the weather animation stuff really...
They should go with stock.
It would make updates faster.
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I couldn't agree more.
Sense improved on features, usability and appearance and if you watched the keynote last night, that was the same focus for ICS.
I wouldn't mind having ICS vanilla.
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is this foreshadowing on a rather "warm" ice cream sandwich? Lol. Jk.
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I couldn't agree more.
Sense improved on features, usability and appearance and if you watched the keynote last night, that was the same focus for ICS.
I wouldn't mind having ICS vanilla.
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If only this would become a reality, would rather have the option of being stock once ICS spreads. I guess it will be once DEVs develop a stock ICS rom
I would like an ICS aosp look with sense features, like the senseless rom im running now. However companies like HTC are all about making their mark on the software so i have a feeling their wont be an official update until theres an ice cream sensewhich..bad pun whoo!
HTC and Sense will never break up. They'll just come up with new ways to sell, they are actually pretty good at that. I just don't think you can have so many companies mass producing so many phones if they all ran vanilla android... it would be silly.
Besides, the sense widgets, weather and facebook integration are enough for me to stay. The facebook app is a resource hogging battery killing machine.. in fact, the android market as a whole is 85% junk... I'm thankful that HTC eliminates the need for at least a few apps.
With that said, I fully expect HTC/Sprint to totally rip us off when they give us ICS on the 3D. It likely won't have anything new for Sense and will be dumbed down.. will have the same Sense UI look.. making it hard to even tell we are even running ICS.
Sure hope CM gets 3D cameras and such working soon!
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i don't think release of ICS is helping HTC at all. after viewing ICS UI, i don't see a reason to use sense anymore. it's starting to loose its selling points. unless they make a major upgrades on sense, HTC's future looks dark.(yes, i will get galaxy nexus soon as they release)
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myn said:
I couldn't agree more.
Sense improved on features, usability and appearance and if you watched the keynote last night, that was the same focus for ICS.
I wouldn't mind having ICS vanilla.
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HTC is going to have to innovate sense to a very deep level to make sense relevant, but in the meantime I wont jump to another device just because it has ICS or its alittle faster, the Nexus Prime im not too hype on, its a SG2 with a dress on. Sense for now is cool but without innovation It will become pointless, P.s the only way I jump to a new device is the GALAXY NOTE on sprint with ICS then im all in. I need that 5.3 with a stylus thats love sorry for the sidetrack at the end of this post
Alright, was thinking of getting the Flyer but I don't know if I would want it without an AOSP build on it. I mean it's cool, but it seems that this tablet would look beautiful with ICS or just vanilla android in general. I like sense but not enough to have a tablet with it.
So, are the devs planning any work on ICS or is it a dead cause?
I can't speak for every developer, but I don't think you will get a lot of takers to put in the vast amount of time an effort to build yet another vanilla tablet ROM when the Sense widgets and Stylus APIs add quite a bit to the Flyer and for some Sense widgets, there are no equal replacement widgets on the market. why bother, if someone doesn't want to use the Sense widgets and launcher, just don't use them, they hurt nothing in the background. And you cannot build a true working AOSP ROM anyway because you are always dependent on the hardware vendors drivers and kernel.
Just run the Flyer with ADW EX launcher or Launcher Pro if you like it better. Works fine that way.
Ill just say that I am NOT a fan of sense in general. I would never want it on a phone and run cyanogen on my evo 4g. BUT it actually works really well on the flyer. I wasn't a big fan of the sense launcher, so I'm running adw, but all of the other sense apps really add functionality to the tablet.
I'm a Rom whore on phones, but I'm still running the stock software (2.3.4) on my flyer because of works so well.
Just get a flyer and enjoy what's in my opinion the best tab available by far.
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Although we do not have the strongest developer base ever. We still do have developers that do work hard for us. I'm not saying that we're going to have developers that will build ICS for us, but what I can say that it would not be a stretch to port ICS from DHD, G2/DZ, MT4G. I can say this because I have seen the GB flyer port to my G2 and it should not be hard to do it the other way around. So really we just need to wait until one of those phones gets ICS or if Cyanogen decides to build for us. We'll get it eventually it will just be a matter of when. The whole I like sense vs. I don't like sense argument does not apply here, because this is android and we will have a choice between the two. We'll most likely also get an HTC sense build of ICS from HTC, but that may take a little time.
while i am enjoying my flyer with homeycomb/sense i have to agree. as much as i love htc devices,i really hate htc sense. id very much like some sort of AOSP rom as well- it really surprised me to not see any cm7 ports,or even official cm support.
i personally dont use any sense widgets or apps. simply running a different launcher doesnt get rid of sense. you still have sense contacts,keyboard,email,etc. sure you can get 3rd party apps for all those things,but that makes the appready huge footprint of the sense rom even bigger.
AOSP seems smoother and faster on my other htc devices,and id prefer it on my flyer as well. id like to learn how to port roms to different devices,so i could have cm7,8,or 9
I would love to see ICS make its way onto the Flyer. But with how long it's taken HTC to give us a HC update, I'm relying more on Cyanogen than anything else.
Being a guy who is seriously considering this sexy tablet myself.
I have been wondering if there would be an ICS port although an official seems unlikely.
I don't "need" a tablet, but a device to read manga on and watch videos every so often would be nice.
This is the smoothest tablet I've ever seen (I like it more than any other tablet I've seen.. including ipad 2, galaxy tab ect ect)
Decided to get nook tablet instead.
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We're not talking about an OG phone here with limited memory. The Flyer has gob of memory. Sense runs great on the flyer. While It might make you "feel" better to think you are running an AoSP ROM, there's nothing that makes it perform better. I would never give up the Pen or email and other widgets that sense has that no one else has for a good feeling. It doesn't make Sense.
ICS seems to be a close relative of Honeycomb.
I am hoping that the delay in releasing HC for Flyer officially is that HC is being cancelled and work is instead shifiting to ICS.
From what I see of ICS, I would take it over HC with Sense.
My guess is that no one is working on an ICS Mod for us.
hm.. gotta agree... there is no point in getting a rom if you actually are losing functionality... kinda the opposite direction of what most people hope for.
Especially sine 2.3.4 is a pretty decent version.
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We're not talking about an OG phone here with limited memory. The Flyer has gob of memory. Sense runs great on the flyer. While It might make you "feel" better to think you are running an AoSP ROM, there's nothing that makes it perform better. I would never give up the Pen or email and other widgets that sense has that no one else has for a good feeling. It doesn't make Sense.
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to each his own... i dont use the pen. i dont use any sense widgets. i like the way AOSP looks and feels,and the way the menus and native apps look. i dont like sense,and even if performance is exactly the same, *I* would enjoy *MY* flyer alot more if i had AOSP roms for it.
just my personal opinion... some folks like sense and sense widgets,and theres nothing wrong with that. but theres nothing wrong with prefering the look and feel of AOSP,either.
scotty1223 said:
to each his own... i dont use the pen. i dont use any sense widgets. i like the way AOSP looks and feels,and the way the menus and native apps look. i dont like sense,and even if performance is exactly the same, *I* would enjoy *MY* flyer alot more if i had AOSP roms for it.
just my personal opinion... some folks like sense and sense widgets,and theres nothing wrong with that. but theres nothing wrong with prefering the look and feel of AOSP,either.
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I think you mean you've bought the wrong tablet.
You have to know HTC == Sense. Just don't buy HTC if you complain about Sense.
With all the ICS Alpha ports popping up these days, even on the HTC HD and such, I would not be surprised to see a repackage bootable of ICS for the Flyer soon. These came around for the Old color Nook in Honeycomb flavor, but never fully worked. The problem is they stay about about 70% working until HTC releases the ICS kernel and drivers. Nice to see how they look but things like camera, Bluetooth, video playback and phone don't work. Who knows? Maybe one of the tapped in developers can even patch together a working kernel from the current HTC source code. Since Google released the main OS source, things could get wild.
digital,you are correct,sdk ports rarely amount to anything useable and worthwhile. source code is needed to really get all the functionality.
Opperhoofd said:
I think you mean you've bought the wrong tablet.
You have to know HTC == Sense. Just don't buy HTC if you complain about Sense.
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i know htc very well. i dont ever buy a device for the software it runs,since everything i own gets rooted and ROMed. i buy htc because i like the hardware,and i like the way they "work". i bought the flyer because i like messing with htc products.
lots of folks dont understand my fondness for htc,but my dislike of sense. as i stated,im enjoying my flyer very much with sensified HC. i dont mind sense in small doses , and and if AOSP roms were available,id prolly flip flop back and forth between them. not complaining,im not wishing i hadnt bought it. all i did was agree with the OP in that i also have a strong preference for AOSP.
again,nothing wrong with liking sense. nothing wrong with not liking it either.
Sense 4.0 for Android ICS in the works for 2012.
All quads from the HTC are going to feature Beats Audio. They are also to have HTC Sense 4.0
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sens...-to-battle-ones-from-Samsung-and-Asus_id23932
Snow_fox said:
Being a guy who is seriously considering this sexy tablet myself.
I have been wondering if there would be an ICS port although an official seems unlikely.
I don't "need" a tablet, but a device to read manga on and watch videos every so often would be nice.
This is the smoothest tablet I've ever seen (I like it more than any other tablet I've seen.. including ipad 2, galaxy tab ect ect)
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I enjoy reading manga on mine. The screen is very nice.
To each his own, but when you have a vast majority who bought this for what it is and not what it can be hacked to, you're pretty much in the minority. So if you want the latest and greatest vanilla that breaks functionality most of us want, then you better bone up on your development skills.
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to each his own... i dont use the pen. i dont use any sense widgets. i like the way AOSP looks and feels,and the way the menus and native apps look. i dont like sense,and even if performance is exactly the same, *I* would enjoy *MY* flyer alot more if i had AOSP roms for it.
just my personal opinion... some folks like sense and sense widgets,and theres nothing wrong with that. but theres nothing wrong with prefering the look and feel of AOSP,either.
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This article claims that the Flyer will be shown by HTC in February running ICS.
Rumor has it that, in the coming months, HTC will unveil the first tablet underpinned by the new Nvidia Tegra 3 quad-core platform. It seems that the HTC quad-core tablet will be revealed at Mobile World Congress 2012, event that takes place in Barcelona, in late February. Of course, the information is not official, bit it seems that it’s coming from a source close to the situation. Anyway, a lot of things can change in three months. At the Catalonian event, HTC will also reveal the Flyer and Jetstream models with stylus support and running on Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich.
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That makes sense,honeycomb source code is a subset of ICS so most of the hard work is already done. Can't wait for stable HC. IcS Will come in due time.
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Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
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Hi,
Just curious about some opinions. I have downloaded and used the ICS for Evo 3D (the version just prior to Joel's last upload), and really liked it. I especially loved the fast web browsing.
But I've been running the Xplode XE 3D by Team Nocturnal and everything on the phone works, beautiful look to it, etc.
The web browsing is not as fast, but the battery life seems better.
My question is, other than:
1. The novelty of something new
2. The desire to use the "latest"
What are some other reasons that might be argued for the superiority of ICS?
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Use what you like. It's your phone, own it. Don't let us tell you what to run.
But ICS here isn't complete, so that isn't exactly a fair comparison yet. There are many many new features to ICS besides the interface. Things such as face unlock (when camera works), managing your data usage, hardware acceleration - just to name a few. Perhaps you should look up all ICS has to offer, there are tons of sources that share what's new. I can't remember everything and there's just too much to type up here.
Thank you. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me what to run. But I WAS looking for what you gave me in your post. Just a brief set of a few reasons why one might want to go with ICS. I appreciate it.
Google "ICS vs gingerbread"
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
I absolutely adore ICS. I cant bring myself to go back to gingerbread. I think asop gb is ugly now that I've gotten used to ics, its just much prettier! Im also very happy to be rid of Android green. Otherwise I personally feel ICS is a much better OS, especially under the hood, its quick, smooth, and better thought out all around. And once you get used to the keyboard its fantastic, and the text prediction and spell check is the best I've used, i love the keyboard.
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I used a nexus s for a bit with ics. The only thing I miss is the better keyboard and much better voice to text. Everything else was forgettable, and honestly the browser was WORSE because it works like the iPhone in that it zooms but doesn't reformat the text. The way it works with GB is far better.
You're not missing much with GB, I'm in no rush to get it. I just want a good AOSP ROM regardless what release it is
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The text reflow is a sense browser thing
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The text reflowed on my nexus one and nexus s on stock and cyanogenmod roms for 2.3, so it's definitely not just a sense thing
Reflow worked for me in ICS. I had no problems. Did you use the Chrome beta?
Anyone missing GB yet? I love ICS, don't get me wrong but I got to say I miss GB a lot. It was a lot nicer looking and I miss the lockscreen. It also seemed a bit more stable. Your thoughts?
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I guess you missed the right section
But no, I don't wanna to go back to GB. I'm looking forward to nice ICS Custom Life :thumbup:
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Well when I finally get it I will be glad to post my thoughts
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Im happy with ics. I love the way it looks. Happier with the way it works. There are some things i would change but not much.
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No, I absolutely LOVE ICS in comparison to GB. It runs much more smoother. My only issue is that the battery life seems slightly worse than it was on GB. But the thing is, every upGRADE will eventually receive an upDATE once people start complaining of various issues/bugs etc.
I actually miss the GB text messaging app. It was cleaner looking to me. I dont like pictures of myself when I type a reply and I dont really like using a 3rd party app. Might have to though...
Other than that, I am happy with the .211 update. I actually really like the new lock screen.
I don't miss anything in GB but IMO, ICS is not as exciting as some people make it out to be. I think some people will be disappointed.
I think the more I use ICS the more I love it.
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I'm not on ice cream sandwich yet, but i've been looking at review after review, and see people going insane because they dont have it. They go as far as even switching phones because they didnt get the update soon enough, what is this stupidity? The phone version of ice cream sandwich looks great, as does the tablet version. However, the new webtop sucks in comparison. It seems much less useful, and it really sucks. I want to dump standard computers and use my phone as my main machine, i was one step closer to that with a ubuntu based webtop. This is frustrating.
Moved to Q&A
Well i updated to the ice cream sandwich OTA last night, and i say "updated" instead of "upgraded" because this is no upgrade. I will admit, this thing is blazing fast and super responsive, i love that. Also the camera, it is a lot better than the gingerbread one, so that's a plus. That, however, is where the positives end. I have been using Launcherpro for its calendar widget for 3 years now, and there is none that are good enough aside from that, and the damn thing crashes contantly on ice cream sandwich. Not to mention, you can't have a seperate launcher for webtop, so you're stuck with the stock sucky one, or having one built for a phone on the webtop. The webtop itself is just terrible, it's not even a tablet image, it looks like it's just a scaled up version of the one already on the phone with the tablet status bar. I used to run firefox in one window, and something else in the mobile view on the old one, can't do that anymore. From what i've seen, i cant go back either. Finally, i havent been able to get any usb mass storage devices to mount on the phone via OTG cable, but a usb mouse works just fine. Neither fat32 nor NTFS would work, even though they both work on my ice cream sandwich tablet, and are supposed to be supported. This "update" is just terrible and i have no idea how any of you can say it's so much better....
i miss ome things fro GB, but i love some of the things of ICS, it goes both ways for me. i like the loook of ics, the lockscreen, camera. hate the home screen, appdrawer (cant long press home screen for widgets), this ics is slower then my GB, smoother but slower, it does a better job at hiding lag. and the battery life on my ics is about 3-5 hours less then it was on GB. i hate how there is no google chrome for this ics version, really annoying cause i was using it on some of the other ics leaks and fell in love with it. but now its not on this ics version and by far one of the best things about ICS is webtop 3.0. GB was on 2.0 and i hated it compared to the 3.0, 2.0 was ugly and lacking customization and had poor and ugly UI. webtop 3.0 just makes me so happy.
as more updates roll out (eventually) ill be a little more satisfied with ICS
I just received a GSM XT910 Razr a few days ago, and have been holding out on even using it in hopes of the ICS update rolling out for it within the next few days or so. I'm starting to wonder if I should even bother waiting anymore and should just keep it on Gingerbread, given how much complaints I'm already reading on ICS. This is the exact same scenario with my current phone, an Sony Xperia Arc...the ICS update did NOT do it any favors and there's been widespread reports of ICS being incredibly laggy on it. I ended up deciding to leave my Arc on Gingerbread.
It's ironic how everybody's been making ICS sound like it's an absolute must-have for months upon months now, and yet when it's finally released, it seems like such a botched job for most phones thus far. I know somebody with a T-mobile Galaxy SII that got their ICS update only to find all sorts of problems with it as well. I think the bottom line is, unless you're running a Nexus device, ICS is nothing to write home about.
If I hear about any more possible delays to an ICS update for the unlocked XT910, which it's starting to look more and more like what will happen, I may very well just forget about ICS and stick to Gingerbread...
me me me..!
i miss BEATS AUDIO plugin..!
is there any way to port it in ICS???
ICS has gotten way more hype than it deserves, but it is a major improvement over GB. I like the look much better, although there are a couple of things I wish MOTO had incorporated, like power toggles on the pull down notification and the accurate battery.
Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
I think it's mostly just human nature at play. People always crave what they can't have. Or they want the next best thing. Those desires, plus greed, are what move societies along the development continuum. I'm not trying to make this a bad thing - its how we move forward. I just can't stand the crying and complaining from some.
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
Everyone needs pockets!
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LMAO!!!! Posted that on Facebook, nice reply Flapps
Project Butter or Buffer
Anthony820 said:
Honest question, not trying to incite argument. I'm really lost as to why so many people so passionately want jelly bean on our device. The only explanation I can come up with is it's newer so it's better. But my understanding of the changes is also very limited, so I get that I'm not exactly an authority on the subject.
I run BS X with flapp's 3.0 kernel and Nova Launcher using JB animations. Battery life is great. Animations are smooth. Flash works perfectly, and I get ICS Browser+. Bumping up to JB, I would immediately, arguably, lose two of those features (I find flash is flaky on JB). So, I guess what I'm getting at is, all I see, personally, are disadvantages to upgrading -- what are the advantages? Are there some great apps that only work on jelly bean? Other than project butter, was there a major development? Why are people so concerned about JB when we have extremely fast, stable ICS roms?
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If you ever played with a JB device everything is smooth and fast.
The advances made to the drop down window are worth it alone.
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flappjaxxx said:
Run official JB on an Officially supported device and it may make more sense to you. On the Note I bounce between ICS and JB mainly for testing purposes. On my Galaxy Nexus which is what I run daily JB 4.2.1 is the best thing since pockets.
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I would definitely agree with that statement
sent from my Samsung galaxy s 3 running Jellybean 4.2.1
Project butter, Google now, Google keeps giving.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
[Lady]: "How do you carry that huge phone in your pocket?"
[Note User]: "I'm used to having huge stuff in my pants"
I couldn't care less about project butter..smoothness is nice, but I'm not kid. I don't need to show up my iPhone carrying friends with how amazingly my phone transitions from swipe to swipe...
Google now however...now that is worth an upgrade.
While I am so greatfull that some excellent devs have brought a half decent port to ICS ROMs...it is just that- half decent compared to it's current incarnation on job ROMs.
If there is one thing that saddens me about us being no longer in line to receive official JB on our phones, it's that we may never see the latest enhancements to GN. We have to hope that some poor, glutton for punishment dev, takes up the cause and brings us these. Unfortunately, from what I've read, this will require a complete overhaul and will need to be started from the ground up as Google has made a lot of changes to bring greater speed and functionality to search...My understanding is that, at present, there is no dev crazy enough to undertake this...
Although....ahem....cough...cough.....I have ....on occasion, ....you know....kinda questioned flapjaxxx's sanity:laugh:
If anyone can...FJ can...
but he still needs source, or it's a dead stick....
My wife has the Note2, and I gotta say, that it's a smooth and sweet running machine on Official JB.
I've always viewed ICS as the "windows ME" version of android...runs ok, but just kinda glitchy, and ultimately the stepping stone for the next generation of good software.
JB official is some badazz software...IMHO....g
I second that!!!
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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I have the 4.1.2 leak on my skyrocket. Smooth. And that's with touch wiz. The newer touch wiz also brings a lot of nice features with it too. Granted, I don't have room to speak on the glories of touch wiz as I write this on agnex. 4.1 and 4.2 are sweet. This thing tells me more than I need to know with Google now. Downside is Google now is a battery sucking whore.
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oh, so THAT's why my battery dies in record time. I loss 10% while drawing a picture