I've done a bunch of different things to my phone to achieve this. I owe most of this result to scripts I have developed, I've put a lot of research into these, as well as my build.prop (Google "0vermind build prop" for that), I am not even using the memory values of supercharger, etc. I will probably be posting my scripts soon and how I did this, but just wanted to give a heads up. Long live the best phone ever made! The Droid x2!
Here's some teasers:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Nice..looking forward to your work..
Now this is with what kind of use?
I can do regular texting, a little web search and marketplace downloads/updates and have around 19 hours and be around 20% with just the normal tweaks. (Probably 40% usage, 60% idle). I set the data saver to trigger at 11 PM (even though I always use it until late into the next morning) but by the time data saver is off (8 AM) the phone probably dropped 10-15% if I rarely used it. I'm wondering if this is at all any good since my idle is around 85% at all times so it looks like you trimmed that down.
This being my first smartphone, I think the actual standbye time is great but usage time is awful.
*edit: Just checked and running 2 Hours on battery and dropped 10% so I have no clue whats going on. I've noticed this phones battery is really random.
Elite49 said:
Now this is with what kind of use?
I can do regular texting, a little web search and marketplace downloads/updates and have around 19 hours and be around 20% with just the normal tweaks. (Probably 40% usage, 60% idle). I set the data saver to trigger at 11 PM (even though I always use it until late into the next morning) but by the time data saver is off (8 AM) the phone probably dropped 10-15% if I rarely used it. I'm wondering if this is at all any good since my idle is around 85% at all times so it looks like you trimmed that down.
This being my first smartphone, I think the actual standbye time is great but usage time is awful.
*edit: Just checked and running 2 Hours on battery and dropped 10% so I have no clue whats going on. I've noticed this phones battery is really random.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mines been pretty consistent, and I've had wifi on most of the time, if you look at the screens. I don't text using standard texting app, I use Google Voice, which is said to use more battery cause it has to send a keep alive signal and it constantly redownloads messages.
That being said, I also have Trillian sitting in the background and have it on 24/7. It notifys me of texts, vms, calls from my business number, plus facebook. And I made a few calls, some short, some long. All that, 19 hours, and still 20% to spare. Heavy use still lasts pretty dang long.
And, if you look at my awake times, my phone never really goes into deep sleep when the screen is off, and it's suppose to, I think this is a software bug in Motorola's build of Gingerbread for x2. That's why I think I'm pretty impressed right now with this beast! Oh and Quadrant scores around 2900.
I have excellent battery life with my x2, the key to me was not using any of motoblur's social networking integration.. It consistantly runs and just gums everything up.. I use the facebook app and twitdeck when i want too, but dont let them update automatically (aka no unneeded connections to the web to download crap i can just manually update)..
Ever since then i get 2 full days out of battery usage if i need..
Since moving to Gingerbread I've been able to push the phone to almost 24hrs between charges, on very light usage days. This is with bg data services running (Sync on, corp email sync, Trillian, weather updates, etc...) If I'm using the phone for any significant portion of the day this drops considerably.
All I've done is frozen most of the Motorola/Verizon bloat.
The next opportunity I have to basically ignore my phone for 24hrs I will post screenshots to prove it.
That's with light usage though? I use my phone pretty heavily at times. Cause as you know from my signature, I run a business, lol.
I'm a heavy use phone user and I use my phone as my home phone. I've rooted and killed the motocrap with fire. I use setcpu to handle better CPU throttling and achieve 24+ hours on a single charge. I don't have any doubts the heavy battery use stems from the motocrap. I just cannot wait until CM7 or another minimalist rom becomes available with overclocking.
spr0k3t said:
I'm a heavy use phone user and I use my phone as my home phone. I've rooted and killed the motocrap with fire. I use setcpu to handle better CPU throttling and achieve 24+ hours on a single charge. I don't have any doubts the heavy battery use stems from the motocrap. I just cannot wait until CM7 or another minimalist rom becomes available with overclocking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you happen to have any problems with setcpu actually making the processer stay within the range you set? It seems that no matter where I set the min/max it stays there for maybe half hour max then goes to whatever speed it wants to. The sliders don't change spots, the cpu just doesn't stay within the value set after a half hour. Can't future out why.
ashclepdia said:
Do you happen to have any problems with setcpu actually making the processer stay within the range you set? It seems that no matter where I set the min/max it stays there for maybe half hour max then goes to whatever speed it wants to. The sliders don't change spots, the cpu just doesn't stay within the value set after a half hour. Can't future out why.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Overclocking needs a CUSTOM KERNEL not a stock kernel. Locked BLoader = No Overclock.
SwiftLegend said:
Overclocking needs a CUSTOM KERNEL not a stock kernel. Locked BLoader = No Overclock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not trying to overclock. I am trying to keep my speeds lower to help save battery which I have been told IS possible. I know I can't go faster than 1ghz but I thought I would be able to keep it from reaching that to save battery life. Am I wrong
Overmind,
Is this with the stock bh5x battery? I can get upwards of 10-14hours on mine with moderate use.
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA App
ashclepdia said:
I am not trying to overclock. I am trying to keep my speeds lower to help save battery which I have been told IS possible. I know I can't go faster than 1ghz but I thought I would be able to keep it from reaching that to save battery life. Am I wrong
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not so sure that the stock kernel will allow for any tweaking of clock speeds. I think you have to have a custom kernel to implement any clock or scheduler changes.
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA Premium App
garywojdan81 said:
I'm not so sure that the stock kernel will allow for any tweaking of clock speeds. I think you have to have a custom kernel to implement any clock or scheduler changes.
Sent from my DROID X2 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just seems weird that it initially works but then after a while stops..
ashclepdia said:
Do you happen to have any problems with setcpu actually making the processer stay within the range you set? It seems that no matter where I set the min/max it stays there for maybe half hour max then goes to whatever speed it wants to. The sliders don't change spots, the cpu just doesn't stay within the value set after a half hour. Can't future out why.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure about that one... I use profiles to handle the changes rather than forcing the speed ranges through the set sliders. The profiles seem to work better anyway, they react to active content rather than set-in-stone performance. One thing to note, the profiles are only available in the paid version (IIRC). Changing the profiles would be similar to handling the changes manually or through custom scripting routines. Right now, I'm going on 15+ hours with 70% of my battery left. I had the OG Droid running over five days on a single charge. What I do different from those saying 1 day max charge, I have no clue.
So ETA on script release?
spr0k3t said:
Not sure about that one... I use profiles to handle the changes rather than forcing the speed ranges through the set sliders. The profiles seem to work better anyway, they react to active content rather than set-in-stone performance. One thing to note, the profiles are only available in the paid version (IIRC). Changing the profiles would be similar to handling the changes manually or through custom scripting routines. Right now, I'm going on 15+ hours with 70% of my battery left. I had the OG Droid running over five days on a single charge. What I do different from those saying 1 day max charge, I have no clue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I shall try profiles then. I do have paid version. Thanks for the tip.
I consistently get 20+ hours with a stock battery, no scripts of any kind, with moderate use and data always connected. All I've done to achieve this is de bloat the hell out of the system apps, set my screen brightness to minimum (the thing its so dang bright anyways, you can hardly tell once you get used to the minimum setting) my wifi is set to never disconnect (I pretty much have a wifi connection 95% of the time) that's about it. I use adwEX, plume for twitter (polls every 3 minutes) gmail, google voice for visual voicemail, moderate amount of widgets (clockr, fancy widget pro, system panel, power control, uk news), I'm even running a live wallpaper (vortex galaxy, set to 100% speed).
Sent from OH MY GOD IS THAT A SQUIRREL!
ashclepdia said:
I am not trying to overclock. I am trying to keep my speeds lower to help save battery which I have been told IS possible. I know I can't go faster than 1ghz but I thought I would be able to keep it from reaching that to save battery life. Am I wrong
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You Can Underclock.
So here I am, finally hitting 50% 1d 5h 10m and a few seconds. I wonder what this would be like on the extended battery?
Related
Has anyone played with the profiles for this app to get optimal performance and better battery. Life of so post your results and share your profiles thank you
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Other than that it is always set to 816/216.
I usually get about 5 hours screen time and about 20 hours standby. Email and Calender sync at 1 hr, with a custom power profile that turns data off after 15 minutes between 3a-9a. I'm happy with it
Girgizzlemuf said:
Other than that it is always set to 816/216.
I usually get about 5 hours screen time and about 20 hours standby. Email and Calender sync at 1 hr, with a custom power profile that turns data off after 15 minutes between 3a-9a. I'm happy with it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your profiles are similar to what I use, although I don't have one for charging/charging A/C
Also, you run 816/216 rest of the time? Aren't you short-changing your phone's capabilities a bit though ... ? I find the biggest different is having screen-off profile.
crippenx said:
Your profiles are similar to what I use, although I don't have one for charging/charging A/C
Also, you run 816/216 rest of the time? Aren't you short-changing your phone's capabilities a bit though ... ? I find the biggest different is having screen-off profile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really. I change it to 1000/216 if it's spectral souls, gun bros or a benchmark. Angry birds plays on my fuze (lol) so i don't change it there. I have noticed little to no difference running 1000/216 on launcher screens, pictures, data rates or anything versus 816/216. If i bump it down to the 700 range then things get laggy, but as it sits 816 runs everything almost flawlessly.
Girgizzlemuf said:
Not really. I change it to 1000/216 if it's spectral souls, gun bros or a benchmark. Angry birds plays on my fuze (lol) so i don't change it there. I have noticed little to no difference running 1000/216 on launcher screens, pictures, data rates or anything versus 816/216. If i bump it down to the 700 range then things get laggy, but as it sits 816 runs everything almost flawlessly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good to know, thanks! I'll try that, maybe squeeze out a little more battery life than I am now What are you averaging? I can go about 1.5 days with good usage as it stands
Strange, I can't have more than 15 hours if moderate usage...
I have similar profiles to the screenshot posted above, but I don't have one for when powered. The main profile on mine is 1000 max ~400 min. I've found that keeping the min ~400 makes the device always snappy without sacking much battery life.
I also use JuiceDefender to manage my data syncing. I leave the blur battery profile at high performance.
crippenx said:
Good to know, thanks! I'll try that, maybe squeeze out a little more battery life than I am now What are you averaging? I can go about 1.5 days with good usage as it stands
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depends on the day. If its a day off, i get ~30 hours with ~6 hours screen time from 100%-10%. Most days though i don't notice much, I drive around a lot listening to pandora in my car dock so its constantly being charged
If I can tear myself away from pandora for a day i'll repost something more meaningful.
On a side note, I notice with circle battery widget I usually get the slowest drain between 80% and 40%, not sure if anyone else has noticed this.
Small update to what I said earlier..
With my profiles, and all the crap running in the background this is what i got now from 100%-31%
1d3h11m since unplug
1d0h25m idle time
3h04m display
0h45m spectral souls (!)
Would go further but I am gonna be away from a charger all day tomorrow
i get the same battery life with setcpu and a display off profile than with no setcpu at all. my guess is that the battery saved gets wasted on setcpu itself.
I have the phone on from 7:30am to 12 midnight with no calls and 1 hour display time and i have just 40% less. No wifi at anytime.
Apps i only have gmail, no other email accounts, twitter at 15 minutes and whatsapp
franciscojavierleon said:
i get the same battery life with setcpu and a display off profile than with no setcpu at all. my guess is that the battery saved gets wasted on setcpu itself.
I have the phone on from 7:30am to 12 midnight with no calls and 1 hour display time and i have just 40% less. No wifi at anytime.
Apps i only have gmail, no other email accounts, twitter at 15 minutes and whatsapp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You got something else wrong. SetCPU will definitely not drain the life it saves. you must have a beast app running in the back somewhere...
also, what kernel/rom are you running?
dean_fx said:
You got something else wrong. SetCPU will definitely not drain the life it saves. you must have a beast app running in the back somewhere...
also, what kernel/rom are you running?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol what??
what kernel? since when there its custom kernels :rolleyes
i get like 12 hours in my normal day i guess its to few :s but streaming music over BT like 4 hours and surfing web forums tweetdeck. not impressed battery for my usage :S
perhaps seems better than my N1. and seems when i enable data it drain more faster like 5% per hour screen off, and no data like 1% or 2
zen kun said:
lol what??
what kernel? since when there its custom kernels :rolleyes
i get like 12 hours in my normal day i guess its to few :s but streaming music over BT like 4 hours and surfing web forums tweetdeck. not impressed battery for my usage :S
perhaps seems better than my N1. and seems when i enable data it drain more faster like 5% per hour screen off, and no data like 1% or 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, my question was pretty straight forward...what kernel are you running. From your response I see your English may be the issue here.
Anyway, reason I ask is because some kernels such as BFS kernels don't really play nice with my phone nor battery. So maybe the issue is with the kernel being used.
"::rollseyes::"
dean_fx said:
Yes, my question was pretty straight forward...what kernel are you running. From your response I see your English may be the issue here.
Anyway, reason I ask is because some kernels such as BFS kernels don't really play nice with my phone nor battery. So maybe the issue is with the kernel being used.
"::rollseyes::"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bootloader is signed on the phone. No custom kernels.
We currently have 4 options on att and like... one on bell i believe. Mine is stock motorola 4.1.57 with gladiatrix2 pseudo-rom
I did forget to mention that i'd sent like 40 text messages and replied to a half dozen emails.
dean_fx said:
Yes, my question was pretty straight forward...what kernel are you running. From your response I see your English may be the issue here.
Anyway, reason I ask is because some kernels such as BFS kernels don't really play nice with my phone nor battery. So maybe the issue is with the kernel being used.
"::rollseyes::"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
/sigh. XDA, a wealth of information, but a lack of patience and reading comprehension.
Anyway, I feel like the Atrix does better than the Evo with battery life. I might try fiddling with SetCPU, so thanks for the info.
HTC Desire with stock Froyo ROM
I've been using SetCPU 2.1.1a recently and have noticed no difference in battery life. Is SetCPU a placebo as far as battery life is concerned?
My settings:
Charging = Max. 998 / Min. 998
Screen Off = Max. 245 / Min. 245
Battery < 101% = Max. 998 / Min. 245
Battery < 25% = Max. 499 / Min. 245
If I "Disable Perflock" SetCPU says "Success: Perflock appears to be disabled".
Some say it increases their battery life, are they imagining it? I'm not interested in over clocking. I'd be very willing to buy it, if it increased my battery life. Thanks
Why are people using Setcpu to try to save battery life?
The whole point of Tegra 2 is ultra low voltage operation when the system is inactive..
Its absolutely counter-productive to use setcpu to try to already do what the chipset itself is made to do and not half as effectively.
seven2099 said:
Why are people using Setcpu to try to save battery life?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because plenty of people say it helps. Hence my question. I'm guessing you pessimistic?
seven2099 said:
The whole point of Tegra 2 is ultra low voltage operation when the system is inactive..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Tegra 2 is only in certain Android devices.
bradavon said:
Because plenty of people say it helps. Hence my question. I'm guessing you pessimistic?
The Tegra 2 is only in certain Android devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it may only be in certain ones, but it DEFINITELY in the atrix....which is this section in which you're posting...
raybond25 said:
it may only be in certain ones, but it DEFINITELY in the atrix....which is this section in which you're posting...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This thread is covering more than the Atrix. I didn't want to start yet another thread about this, when there are already plenty. Besides the main SetCPU thread (with the download links) is in the HTC Dream section and that phone's ancient.
If someone can answer my questions please.
Ive done many tests, and Ive finally achieved the 12 hour battery life everyoen has been complaining about.
This is only achievable through a mixture of the applicatoin ''Juicedefender beta'' and Smart Actions, and freezing the unnecessary bloatware that doesnt need to be running in the background
Use the following settings:
2g & Data connnection off when screen off (For e-mails, let autosync check every x minutes you would like)
3g when specific apps need data connection on (for internet radios enable the screen on/off profile)
In-built setcpu function, set min/max to 300mhz on idle
Enable juicedefender to automatically handle 2g/3g networks
SMARTACTIONS: Display ON & OFF profile -> Disable background sync
Juicedefender in-built autobrightness, and tweak the settings below stock brightness
Enable juicedefender to manage wifi
HYPOTHESIS: Played Internet Radio for 1 hour straight, all active applications killed, only radio playing.
RESULT: Every 1 hour, drain: 9%
So if you multiple 9% by 12 = 109% which is slightly above 12hours.
Everyone can also test this, and see if their RAZR is the same, if so, no more complaints =)
Which is roughly 12 and a bit hours, please everyone also share their results using the same setup and post your results so we can all share, hope this helps =)
I can run 16 hrs stock out of the box under moderate use.
Here's where I'm at now and I'm stock...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
just turn off 4g except when you plan on surfing the web and it will be fine...
My battery life has almost tripled ever since I turned off my 4G radio.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using XDA App
Yes, after 3 weeks try and error, 4G is the biggest consumer of battery.
Second is screen.
royalbloodvi said:
[*]In-built setcpu function, set min/max to 300mhz on idle
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where is the built-in setcpu function? I have been looking around but can't seem to find any setting like this.
I'm aware that Juice Defender has an option like this but when you say "built-in", it sounds like you're referring to one built-in to Smart Actions.
I believe he is referring to the market app Setcpu.
There is no 'acclaimed' 12 hr battery life...it is just possible with no high-tech, settings changing miracle. I get up to 18hrs with moderate use. Aside from 4G...you need to put your screen brightness down to around 30% which still looks very good.
Make sure you are using the beta version. Then you must go to the profiles ans click advanced, then confirm and the extra options to change frequencies will appear
Sent from my XT910 using XDA App
2g & Data connnection off when screen off
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That basically means that unless you are using the phone with screen on you are not going to get emails.
POINTLESS!
I agree with Szadzik. There's a fine line of usability vs battery life that needs to be determined by ones needs. For me I don't use WIFI. Mine is always off and don't turn it on unless I must for a mandatory game data download or something. I refuse though to scale back half the phones ability to save on battery. Fortunately this is the best battery life I have ever had on anything and that includes my single cores. Thankfully no need to scale back. The benefit of having AMOLED or at least this one is you can run the screen at 30% and still have people comment on how bright it is LOL.
Szadzik said:
That basically means that unless you are using the phone with screen on you are not going to get emails.
POINTLESS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can set it to turn data on every 5 minutes when the screen is off and sync your email so that's not a big deal...it still saves a lot of battery. Personally I've just been keeping LTE off unless I really need it and turn juice defender on when i'm in a bind and need to preserve battery.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda premium
Szadzik said:
That basically means that unless you are using the phone with screen on you are not going to get emails.
POINTLESS!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Theres an option to check for auto sync every 15 minutes, just enable if you use email
vgupman said:
You can set it to turn data on every 5 minutes when the screen is off and sync your email so that's not a big deal...it still saves a lot of battery. Personally I've just been keeping LTE off unless I really need it and turn juice defender on when i'm in a bind and need to preserve battery.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will eat more battery if it keeps turning on and off every 5 minutes.
royalbloodvi said:
Theres an option to check for auto sync every 15 minutes, just enable if you use email
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How are you going to receive emails if data is turned off?
Besides, using email app while you can use GMail is very uncomfortable.
You guys are trying to do everything to destroy smartphone experience. I prefer to have an external charger and USB cable to charge it up than to use these tricks to lower battery usage and have a smartphone that does not work.
The great thing I use is Moto's Sleep mode whenever I decide I do not want anyone to disturb me.
Szadzik said:
It will eat more battery if it keeps turning on and off every 5 minutes.
How are you going to receive emails if data is turned off?
Besides, using email app while you can use GMail is very uncomfortable.
You guys are trying to do everything to destroy smartphone experience. I prefer to have an external charger and USB cable to charge it up than to use these tricks to lower battery usage and have a smartphone that does not work.
The great thing I use is Moto's Sleep mode whenever I decide I do not want anyone to disturb me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The data connection will turn on by itself automactically to check for auto-sync when you enable the option for juice defender to automatically manage data connection..
Whole point of this app is to get the most battery you can without sacrificing functionality, but just effectively using the networks/data connections effectively.. android has poor network management..
That's crazy, straight out the box I'm getting 14 hrs. + with pretty moderate use.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk
I have been getting 20+ the last 4 days with smart actions
Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk
royalbloodvi said:
Ive done many tests, and Ive finally achieved the 12 hour battery life everyoen has been complaining about.
This is only achievable through a mixture of the applicatoin ''Juicedefender beta'' and Smart Actions, and freezing the unnecessary bloatware that doesnt need to be running in the background
Use the following settings:
2g & Data connnection off when screen off (For e-mails, let autosync check every x minutes you would like)
3g when specific apps need data connection on (for internet radios enable the screen on/off profile)
In-built setcpu function, set min/max to 300mhz on idle
Enable juicedefender to automatically handle 2g/3g networks
SMARTACTIONS: Display ON & OFF profile -> Disable background sync
Juicedefender in-built autobrightness, and tweak the settings below stock brightness
Enable juicedefender to manage wifi
HYPOTHESIS: Played Internet Radio for 1 hour straight, all active applications killed, only radio playing.
RESULT: Every 1 hour, drain: 9%
So if you multiple 9% by 12 = 109% which is slightly above 12hours.
Everyone can also test this, and see if their RAZR is the same, if so, no more complaints =)
Which is roughly 12 and a bit hours, please everyone also share their results using the same setup and post your results so we can all share, hope this helps =)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is strange, I can use my RAZR for a maximum of 36 hours with light usage, 24 hours with moderate usage and 16 hours with heavy usage includes smart actions.. I never had battery issues on RAZR
nagnrik said:
It is strange, I can use my RAZR for a maximum of 36 hours with light usage, 24 hours with moderate usage and 16 hours with heavy usage includes smart actions.. I never had battery issues on RAZR
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
exactly.. i'd be really bad if the battery wouldn't last for 12 hours from the box. in fact i think that the battery life on RAZR is really good. I play games a lot, browse the web and stuff and i have no problem getting over 12 hours so.. only thing that comes to my mind is that they acutally mean 24 hours since they MIGHT have 12hr clock not 24hr.. so technically they can't reach 24hours. they can reach something like full 12. but you tell me i never heard anything about RAZR having 12 hours acclaimed battery life
Szadzik said:
It will eat more battery if it keeps turning on and off every 5 minutes.
How are you going to receive emails if data is turned off?
Besides, using email app while you can use GMail is very uncomfortable.
You guys are trying to do everything to destroy smartphone experience. I prefer to have an external charger and USB cable to charge it up than to use these tricks to lower battery usage and have a smartphone that does not work.
The great thing I use is Moto's Sleep mode whenever I decide I do not want anyone to disturb me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're right these features aren't great for everybody to use all the time but if you're really trying to save some battery and your not that important of a person that you can't wait 5-15 minutes to get your email it helps. I would argue that carrying an external charger takes away from the experience just as much if not more depending on the situation. Also, you don't have to be using the email app it works with gmail too it just turns on auto sync every x amount of minutes.
For me keeping 4g off when I'm not browsing the web or downloading a large file keeps me with more than enough juice to get me through most days.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda premium
I've loved my Galaxy SII right from day 1, but the phone's battery life has made it a complicated relationship.... I'm hoping to share my experience as a heavy user and how i'm dealing with the battery.
My usage:
I would fall into the 'power user' category. I'm rooted, on stock 2.3.4 (the update to 2.3.6 was pushed to my phone, but obviously failed). I'm often streaming audio podcasts, using Waze (a social gps program), and checking twitter and online forums and the occasional email or text. Bit of youtube in there as well. Bluetooth is on 10% of the time, wifi always, screen 1 notch below max brightness, no 'fetching' widgets.
My last phone, the iphone 4 had better battery life, but not incredibly so. During heavy use I would get ~6 hours. Standby was closer to 20 hours. I still had to charge at some point during the day, but it's different with the GS2.
Let's take a look at the Battery Usage in Settings....
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
With 4 and a half hours of usage, i'm down to 13%. That means I'm up at 8:00AM, and by 1:00PM my phone is dead. It would almost be hilarious if it wasn't so sad... Charging has become a critical part of my daily routine. I'm using an external battery pack (more info below) and charge off a wall socket
Solution so far:
I've been using the Energizer XPAL4001, a 4000mah external battery for $58.00.
The thing is great, and I obviously wouldn't make it a full day without it. However it's a hassle to have to lug it around which is why i'm considering getting the extended battery which I was hoping to avoid by getting the external. But it looks like I do need both solutions.
Solutions I'm considering:
I'm about to pull the trigger on a3500mAh Extended Battery + Cover off of ebay. It's going for $11.00 with free shipping, so the price is certainly right.
What do you guys recommend? Has anyone tried the battery I'm looking at? It doesn't have NFC, but it's $11. I'd love to hear from other power users and how they're dealing with things.
PS. Still love my GS2
I'd recommend using your phone less!!
Try an i9100 rom, much better battery life.
You are expecting too much if you want it to last all day long with that much usage.
Doesn't look like your phone went into deep sleep not once.
Try flashing UnNamed 1.3.2 or 2.2.1 and a custom kernal and use SetCPU to lower clocks/volts.
This should help you in increasing the battery life a little more.
Have you checked this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1308030
What about the Korean 2000mah battery? You can see my posts on this page for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1281777&page=11
It would be helpful to know how much screen time you are getting. You can access this by clicking "Display" in the screens you have posted above. Your battery is dying incredibly quickly. If your screen time is less than 2.5 hours you may have a rogue app that is running up your cpu. Use CPU Spy and better battery stats to help diagnose.
Sounds like you are such a power user that you might want to consider one of the 3500mah batteries. If you don't mind the size that is. Search the accessories forum to make sure you order the right brand as some cause boot loops. You will also lose NFC.
Good luck!
thanks for the replies everyone.
I'd recommend using your phone less!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry, but no. I would carry a second phone before using this one less. But it's a reasonable recommendation.
You are expecting too much if you want it to last all day long with that much usage.
Doesn't look like your phone went into deep sleep not once.
Try flashing UnNamed 1.3.2 or 2.2.1 and a custom kernal and use SetCPU to lower clocks/volts.
This should help you in increasing the battery life a little more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not expecting a full day of battery life, but 4 and a half hours of usage in undeniably on the short side. Thank you for the insight on deep sleep etc. I'm newish to android and appreciate a skilled user's input.
As for flashing a rom, I'm really waiting for an Ice cream sandwich release before going that route. I'm aware of underclocking etc but think that I might get better results by getting the extended battery.
Have you checked this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1308030
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, most of those 'known battery drainers' don't pertain to me.
What about the Korean 2000mah battery? You can see my posts on this page for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...281777&page=11
Sounds like you are such a power user that you might want to consider one of the 3500mah batteries. If you don't mind the size that is. Search the accessories forum to make sure you order the right brand as some cause boot loops. You will also lose NFC.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think i'll need 3500mah too. I'm aware of the boot loop stuff, but I can't find clarification on whether the battery i'm looking at ( ebay link ) will have those problems or not... I would like advice on that.
It would be helpful to know how much screen time you are getting. You can access this by clicking "Display" in the screens you have posted above. Your battery is dying incredibly quickly. If your screen time is less than 2.5 hours you may have a rogue app that is running up your cpu. Use CPU Spy and better battery stats to help diagnose.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Time on: 2h 57m 20s
I will look into those 2 apps.
This is what I have for today with better battery stats.
/\ were you using the GPS? I was for most of my 4 hours of life.
what were you doing with your 2 hour 26 min of screen on time?
Hmmmm, 3 hours of screen on time sounds about right for the battery life you are experiencing. As far as that particular battery, I'm not sure... I would play it safe and purchase one people are linking to in some of the threads that are confirmed as working. The other thing you have to consider is cover fit- which is another reason to go with one people have posted experience with in one of the "Accessories" threads.
BTW: Not sure but the Waze app may be utlize GPS in a way that it consumes more battery than it posts in your battery usage. Not sure though.
Also, are you leaving the screen on unnecessarily, like while listening to a podcast. That's a pretty intense amount of screen usage for such a short period.
Let me know what you decide
Just for Reference
Here's my usage with the 2000mah Korean Battery.
Screen is off during podcasts, on during GPS. Waze affects my battery about as much as the google Maps/Navigation app.
As for the battery, I've heard others buying batteries that have been $50 and up, I could buy 4 of the ones i'm looking at for that price.
Someone out there must have tried this battery before.... I'd like to hear what they say first.
-double post-
Have you checked this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350247
Or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392396
Install BBS (link) and cpuspy (link) today and then tomorrow make sure to reboot your phone before unplugging and doing your daily routine.
Once your battery reaches 20% post the BBS dump and screenshots so we can analyze it better and see what is draining your battery so much and how to improve it while you wait for your new battery.
I highly recommend flashing a UnNamed or ShoStock since it removes bloat and also SetCPU to lower the volts and set some profiles.
You said your new to android, so listen to others that have used it longer.
PS. Ice Cream Sandwich will be a while so don't hold your breath...
phatalbert1000 said:
Have you checked this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350247
Or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392396
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
both of those look like great options. I'll read up on both and hope to make a decision tomorrow.
Deenybird said:
/\ were you using the GPS? I was for most of my 4 hours of life.
what were you doing with your 2 hour 26 min of screen on time?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use gps for about a minute today. Most of my screen on time is messaging web surfing facebook and twitter
Was your screen at max brightness or autobrightness? Autobrightness tends to set the screen way too bright.
After all, your battery history indicates 74% of the usage was display - so I think you may just have the brightness way up.
Full brightness + GPS + CPU usage is brutal on the battery, that brings total current consumption to somewhere around 650 mA. (On the Infuse, the battery would slowly discharge with a 600 mA charger at fullbright + GPS. The GSII just barely keeps ahead with 650 mA charge current.)
I'm getting between 26-32 hrs with the config in my sig.
Deenybird said:
My usage:
I would fall into the 'power user' category. I'm rooted, on stock 2.3.4 (the update to 2.3.6 was pushed to my phone, but obviously failed). I'm often streaming audio podcasts, using Waze (a social gps program), and checking twitter and online forums and the occasional email or text. Bit of youtube in there as well. Bluetooth is on 10% of the time, wifi always, screen 1 notch below max brightness, no 'fetching' widgets.
My last phone, the iphone 4 had better battery life, but not incredibly so. During heavy use I would get ~6 hours. Standby was closer to 20 hours. I still had to charge at some point during the day, but it's different with the GS2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Alot of good advice in this thread! I highlighted above what I think is killing your battery. Go with a debloated stock like ROM, research a bit on cpu schedulers and go with a conservative one, turn the brightness down and you will be on your way to duplicating your battery life. ;
Use Siyah kernel and the Thunderbolt (TB) script. They'll do wonders for your battery. As for brightness use auto or half way. We're lucky to have such boss screen with crazy brightness. anything above 70% hurts my eyes in doors lol. Auto should be 90% effective for your day to day use. Also try to avoid apps that sync or fetch data constantly and set things to push or to auto-update every 3-6hrs instead of 15min-1hr. Those murder ur battery.
Install BBS (link) and cpuspy (link) today and then tomorrow make sure to reboot your phone before unplugging and doing your daily routine.
Once your battery reaches 20% post the BBS dump and screenshots so we can analyze it better and see what is draining your battery so much and how to improve it while you wait for your new battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will do
Was your screen at max brightness or autobrightness? Autobrightness tends to set the screen way too bright.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was one notch down from max brightness. I'm going to scale it back to around 50% as many people are recommending that.
Go with a debloated stock like ROM, research a bit on cpu schedulers and go with a conservative one, turn the brightness down and you will be on your way to duplicating your battery life. ;
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use Siyah kernel and the Thunderbolt (TB) script. They'll do wonders for your battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm considering this, but I'm going to see what kind of increase I get off an extended battery alone first.
Hi guys i finally managed how to root a s2 duo the dramatic battery life.
I installed the Setcpu and underclocked my s2.
But it only makes 10 hour or even less. My brother has also a S2 and his battery life goes like 2 and a half day without root just a stock rom. He uses his s2 only to whatsapp and internet browsing like hell just like me. And his batttery life is 2 days
My question how do i get that battery life like 2 days, its really annoying charging the s2 when you want go outside with a low battery.
I got also screenshot of my S2 setting and info:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
PS: My brothers display percent is also like 50 precent like me.
(Sorry for bad english)
so your brother uses his phone to whatsapp and browsing only?
you must be doing so much more stuff to manage to drain it in 10 hours....hell even i get 1d 12hours at least with my ICS rom
also how does he do the whatsapp thing? via 3g or wifi
we need so much more details in order to give you a decent help
the amount of apps/widgets also decrease/increase ur battery life
Download betterbatterystats and check if your phone goes in to deep sleep..
Otherwise you might have some app or something else keeping it awake all the time even if the display is off.
RorixRebel said:
so your brother uses his phone to whatsapp and browsing only?
you must be doing so much more stuff to manage to drain it in 10 hours....hell even i get 1d 12hours at least with my ICS rom
also how does he do the whatsapp thing? via 3g or wifi
we need so much more details in order to give you a decent help
the amount of apps/widgets also decrease/increase ur battery life
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From my experience, 3G is the battery killer. When I am on 3g network I get 9 hours until the phone shuts down. THis is with email checking when it is pushed ( 20-30 messages) and about 15 minute of calls and random 4sq check ins.
When I am on GSM only, connected to EDGE rather than 3g i get a bout 1.5 days with a lot greater use.
If I am at home all day and stay connected on wi-fi, I seem to get the best battery usage.
Coming from a BlackBerry this is a bit strange as the Wi fi was the one that used to drain the battery.
My brother uses his s2 always on the wifi and outside of course the 3g signal.
semitor said:
Download betterbatterystats and check if your phone goes in to deep sleep..
Otherwise you might have some app or something else keeping it awake all the time even if the display is off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just installed betterbatterystats how can i check it if it goes too deep sleep
Check the thread in my signature. 3d battery life! Always in wifi and in 3g (or 2g if i need only whatsapp/mail).
Pako010 said:
I just installed betterbatterystats how can i check it if it goes too deep sleep
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
for checking that i recommend cpuspy much easier to verify if your phone goes to deep sleep
in BBS verify the partial wakelocks and let us know whats in the top 3 positions
and how many counts that activity contains
RorixRebel said:
for checking that i recommend cpuspy much easier to verify if your phone goes to deep sleep
in BBS verify the partial wakelocks and let us know whats in the top 3 positions
and how many counts that activity contains
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The app is showing this infoo
Hi,
You could try a different rom aswell, there is quit some difference on battery life for the different roms out there.
Bade90 said:
Check the thread in my signature. 3d battery life! Always in wifi and in 3g (or 2g if i need only whatsapp/mail).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thxx my s2 using the 100mhz more than the 500 and alsoo configurated to the info of the topic.
i use siyah kernel and voltage controle
lol the lulzcrative setting is wonderfull
Everybody thnx it sure helped to my battery drain. I flashed the kernel to the latest siyah version avaiable and then i installed voltage control and 2nd core app. And folowed the instruction topic of voltage control. Everybody thnxxx a lot.
Hi everyone
my battery never hold me a day without charging it
I use wanamlite rom 2.3.6
please how can i improve the battery life
when I am on gprs connection and the speed is slow about 10 to 25 kb/s
browsing by opera mini 2 to 4max total browsing ,usuing what's app, messaging via go sms about 100 sms send and receive,
and some othet things is that normal.
Hi everyone
my battery never hold me a day without charging it
I use wanamlite rom 2.3.6
please how can i improve the battery life
when I am on gprs connection and the speed is slow about 10 to 25 kb/s
browsing by opera mini 2 to 4max total browsing ,usuing what's app, messaging via go sms about 100 sms send and receive,
and some othet things is that normal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi. This is rather long and I wasn't prepared as I wrote but just simply went on with every thought. Skipping to the summary, where the bold text is, is useful for the majority of people and the entire post is intended for new people though there are some things I haven't yet seen discussed here.
I was actually reading the whole thread which dates back a bit rather slowly and wanted to give some of my experience with my battery.
First off, it seems pretty typical that when a phone is struggling to keep a connection or when there's a lot of fluctuation on 3G, then battery suffers. This was something that was really apparent for me on the SGS2 since I could more easily isolate that one issue and have a look. At the same time, though, I've found that after switching to a good solid provider in my area, who has a consistency of signal and an abundance of towers etc etc, that it made far less difference than prior if I was on 3G or 2G. I think that its actually now negligible and although I haven't tested being on 2G alone since I no longer need to, I suspect that the battery savings isn't going to effect me personally as I keep full bars or close to it most of the time now. If I go back to the previous carrier then of course it would and I'd have the same problem all over again and would be pissed off and keeping myself restricted to GSM, which sucks.
Another thing that I've found, is that every phone really must be uniquely different when it comes to undervolting, setting the governer, and even more specifically just using a custom kernel opposed to a stock kernel, or for root and CWM, one that's compiled as stock with the root goodies added by Chainfire.
I really should break this into 2 separate things.
To simplify the last paragraph, its commonplace, for example with intel or AMD processors that they might all get the same production line process but that there's such a narrow margin for error, that what's deemed acceptable for various speeds and voltages are then labeled as differant processors when they go to market, so the 3 ghz version of a processor is often the same factory result as the 1.5 ghz version and there just happened to be limitations put on the 1.5 ghz version afterward so that it simply could not go any faster as it wasn't the best batch of cookies to come out of the oven, or perhaps the L2 or L3 cache didn't turn out on one batch so part of the thing gets zapped off by a laser and marketed under a differant name.
Getting to the point, there's a lot of custom kernels and various threads about how to get the most out of these kernels. For some people this is the gold nugget but in my case it happens to be that if I want to be rooted and have the best power management while pulling adequate benchmarking numbers then the smartest thing I can do is just stick with the kernel that matches my phone that Chainfire has compiled. As I understand it he uses the same configuration file and complier options as Samsung (or gets as close as he can to it), and adds the components needed for the rooting process.
Since I'm not very smart, and have tried to save battery using Siyah various times with various settings of my own and posted by other people, only to find that my phone's personal temperment is to drain faster, I still continue to try other things and most recently the Red Pill kernel.
While trying a variety of settings with Red Pill last night and benchmarking over and over again, I found that quite simply there's a lot going on which effects the performance of the benchmark score, but even more importantly, and this took a while to notice, that undervolting to levels that didn't by any means cause crashes did not mean better battery or better benchmarks. Where it did benchmark better I found that in my case there can be a huge placebo effect because the in between scores aren't getting looked at as much, for example if I undervolt too much at 500 800 and 1000 then my phone tends to not even use those steps as much and the obvious result of this is going to be too much jumping straight from 200 to 1200 even if I'm just screwing around and flicking the home screens back and forth. This obviously will not save battery. Further to that, I felt that although the GPU can handle a larger undervolt at both settings and a larger undervolt at the lower one, that my phone's performance was much better when both of those things had less of a gap, both in speed and in voltage and went less aggressively there as well. I still have the Red Pill kernel installed and think I have reasonable values however it took quite a lot of testing, hours of it, and the jury is still out and for the most important reason as it applies to my phone which is as follows:
When I first got the phone there was a lot of talk about calibrating the battery. There's apps that will wipe a file (yes I know this is very repetitive for a lot of people but I'm writing it for those that are new) that has to do with battery calibration. You can also do it from recovery in CWM. The file will also get wiped sometimes by something you flash, for example cleaning scripts, some kernel installs might do this (I'm not sure if its wise or necissary when using a new kernel or ROM; I leave mine alone now unless something else does it).
I spent a lot of time trying to get better battery life by calibrating my battery the "proper" way, when it was completely charged, and even when it was just about to die entirely. This has always been not only fruitless, but counterproductive. I've read that the file gets deleted automatically when the battery is full and the power cable is unplugged but I'm skeptical about that as I've found that I get quite noticeably better (significant in my case) battery life when I leave it alone and let it do its own thing for at least 3 charges. That doesn't mean discharging it entirely 3 times, but that just using it as normal a few times brings it into its own all by itself. Calibrating the battery seems (to me) to actually screw this up which means another few times of use before I'm even with a clue of how a kernel (new ROM or custom kernel) is going to be on the battery.
To summarize my experience:
- Custom Kernels appear great for some people but every chip on every phone is differant. In my case sticking close to stock has been the way to go. The best I have so far done is adjusted the conservative governor to be a little snappier than default. I quite honestly got very irritated at one point at all the kernels that pop up and all the settings threads because I expected that I was going to have the same experience as other people were reporting.
- Undervolting sounds effective in theory, but its important to look at how your phone uses various frequencies according to your habits and make sure you haven't fallen into a sitiuation similar to mine where undervolting resulted in me skipping up a frequency to quickly and thus using more power. Additionally, reducing the gap between my voltage values and the gap in the frequencies I had created with my GPU settings resulted in better performance and specifically less work for the CPU.
- Battery Calibration may or may not have its place when it comes to new ROMs or Kernels (I don't know), but Calibration in general is not something the phone requires and further to that (in my observation) just makes it drain faster for a few recharges. The longer I don't calibrate it, the better.
I was at one time not pulling a full day out of my phone. Today, admittedly with the samsung 2000 mah extendable battery though, which is 20% more juice, I can pull 24 hours (as a low number to use) with 5 hours of screen time (also a low number; its more like 6 hours screen and more than 24 hours but varies depending upon how I've used it). When I first got the thing I was calibrating a lot and 5 hours of screen time I don't think would have been possible at all. If you think your phone is a lemon, you may very well just need some patients with it. I have had my original battery in it and using it more patiently as well, and although it wasn't long enough to give out accurate numbers I knew that it would have been just fine had I had to continue using the original battery.
One last thing, I typically freeze wifi sharing and Samsung's email and so forth but have noticed in more recent ROMs that these additions are getting to be more and more negligible. I would unfreeze wifi sharing if I thought I would ever use it.
A final thought for benchmarking is to look carefully at how you use your phone first, in respect to what voltages are used most often, then adjusting each frequency individually. If I undervolt too much at my top frequency then the phone doesn't crash, but it also doesn't score as well. It may be better to find the ideal spot by doing each frequency seprately and individually, then worrying about how things scale, as previously mentioned.
I've found that I get quite noticeably better (significant in my case) battery life when I leave it alone and let it do its own thing for at least 3 charges. That doesn't mean discharging it entirely 3 times, but that just using it as normal a few times brings it into its own all by itself.
That is the correct method battery recalibrates itself .The stats play no part in the calibration process or how long a battery lasts .
https://plus.google.com/u/0/1050519...dVxPT#105051985738280261832/posts/FV3LVtdVxPT
jje
Hello,
I'm an happy X10 owner since November 2010. Since then my phone has been intensively used. Hundreds of ROM changes, daily use. It has been charged everyday.Now I'm on Donout HD2, with unlocked bootloader without overclocking. After all this time the battery life gone crazy. For e.g. I'm not able to watch one movie because after one hour the battery is almost empty (on lowest brightness). I remember that ~1/2 Year ago I was able to watch a whole movie and the battery was more than 60% left (I'm using MX Player). It's weird, specially because my brother uses the same video player and his battery usage is below 10% after whole movie(SGS II). There is also weird thing that the phone is doing> After I use it intensively and turn off the screen and leave it for some time the battry gets loaded (+ 1-15%). The problem exists only when I have screen turned on (battery gets very warm). Today I've watched Youtube for ~15min (using WIFI) and I had to stop it, because the battery got from 45% to 15%. Of course I have some programs running in the background (musicXmatch,ProximityScreenOff,Program TV,Profile Settings, Equalizer, Flip and Sleep, Clipper, Missed Reminder, KeepScreen, Callrecorder, Setxperia, BlingBoard, Thumb Keyboard + system processes).
So my question is:
-Is the ROM wrong (I don't think so)
-Some of the processes need more energy
-Is the battery old and I should replace it with a new one (That's what I'm thinking of)
Please share Your experience & suggestions.
Hi,
how many empty RAM do you have when phone boots up?
Also try installing CPUspy and run it for a day, an you will show how is phone under pressure. Also install CPUMaster, maybe changing CPU governor will help.
Main power comsumption is form CPU and display. I also have set it on one of the lowest levels, because of durability.
I had tried about ten different ROMs (dont count many versions of each one); but in most of them I observed little bigger power consumption then on my current. I chose Wolfbreak gaming and cleaned junk apps (more then he did ) and got great battery performance - about 2 - 3 days with standart usage, 1,5 day with high pressure.
"Problem" is caused only when screen is on because CPU is awake, but when screen off CPU automatically goes into deep sleep mode with tiny consumption
But in you case, install CPUspy, report it here and try to cut off some junk apps - there are a lot of them in any rom...
HeliumX10 said:
Hi,
how many empty RAM do you have when phone boots up?
Also try installing CPUspy and run it for a day, an you will show how is phone under pressure. Also install CPUMaster, maybe changing CPU governor will help.
Main power comsumption is form CPU and display. I also have set it on one of the lowest levels, because of durability.
I had tried about ten different ROMs (dont count many versions of each one); but in most of them I observed little bigger power consumption then on my current. I chose Wolfbreak gaming and cleaned junk apps (more then he did ) and got great battery performance - about 2 - 3 days with standart usage, 1,5 day with high pressure.
"Problem" is caused only when screen is on because CPU is awake, but when screen off CPU automatically goes into deep sleep mode with tiny consumption
But in you case, install CPUspy, report it here and try to cut off some junk apps - there are a lot of them in any rom...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, I'll try Your advice. Can You say how old is Your batt? Oh, and my RAM free is about 100MB
jakuburban said:
Thanks, I'll try Your advice. Can You say how old is Your batt? Oh, and my RAM free is about 100MB
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My phone is form january 2011, so relatively new...
OK, see that you have a lot of software on backround - i mostly have 160-170MB on startup and about 120-130 MB after few days ...
jakuburban said:
Hello,
I'm an happy X10 owner since November 2010. Since then my phone has been intensively used. Hundreds of ROM changes, daily use. It has been charged everyday.Now I'm on Donout HD2, with unlocked bootloader without overclocking. After all this time the battery life gone crazy. For e.g. I'm not able to watch one movie because after one hour the battery is almost empty (on lowest brightness). I remember that ~1/2 Year ago I was able to watch a whole movie and the battery was more than 60% left (I'm using MX Player). It's weird, specially because my brother uses the same video player and his battery usage is below 10% after whole movie(SGS II). There is also weird thing that the phone is doing> After I use it intensively and turn off the screen and leave it for some time the battry gets loaded (+ 1-15%). The problem exists only when I have screen turned on (battery gets very warm). Today I've watched Youtube for ~15min (using WIFI) and I had to stop it, because the battery got from 45% to 15%. Of course I have some programs running in the background (musicXmatch,ProximityScreenOff,Program TV,Profile Settings, Equalizer, Flip and Sleep, Clipper, Missed Reminder, KeepScreen, Callrecorder, Setxperia, BlingBoard, Thumb Keyboard + system processes).
So my question is:
-Is the ROM wrong (I don't think so)
-Some of the processes need more energy
-Is the battery old and I should replace it with a new one (That's what I'm thinking of)
Please share Your experience & suggestions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here mate. My phone is even older than yours. I got mine in June 2010 - so nearly 2 years old. I didnt change ROM's till 3 months back (only changed 3-4 times till now, am on X10S now). Dont use phone for anything other than calls, chatting on gtalk, whatsapp etc. That too not too much. But yes, battery has deteriorated like crazy. *Battery loses 1% for every minute screen is on*. mind you, this is on 40% brightness with auto brightness turned off. Only data connection on, bluetooth, wifi, gps turned off.
I wouldnt say i have really used my phone a lot. So battery deterioration is really weird. I have always had a doubt about the FPS Uncap, that it causes the screen to draw lot more power than when FPS was capped (i am assuming the FPS at 55 is achieved at a higher refresh rate than when FPS was capped at 30). I couldnt find any script to turn the FPS cap back on so that i could test this. so cant say for sure.
battery does the "back from the dead" trick on me too. Playing a game like PES, Fifa etc., sometimes phone dies when battery was still 22-23%. Then restart the phone and it stays on for 2 odd hours. Start game again, and it dies within minutes again. Once it went to 0% while playing a game. I tried to switch it on, it did.. and i left it as it is... after 30 minutes, i check the phone, battery has crawled back to 31%!! and then it stays on for nearly 4 hours after that.
Basically, the battery can go on for 1 day or slightly more on standby... but if u use the phone (duh!), its kaput.
takmayo said:
Same here mate. My phone is even older than yours. I got mine in June 2010 - so nearly 2 years old. I didnt change ROM's till 3 months back (only changed 3-4 times till now, am on X10S now). Dont use phone for anything other than calls, chatting on gtalk, whatsapp etc. That too not too much. But yes, battery has deteriorated like crazy. *Battery loses 1% for every minute screen is on*. mind you, this is on 40% brightness with auto brightness turned off. Only data connection on, bluetooth, wifi, gps turned off.
I wouldnt say i have really used my phone a lot. So battery deterioration is really weird. I have always had a doubt about the FPS Uncap, that it causes the screen to draw lot more power than when FPS was capped (i am assuming the FPS at 55 is achieved at a higher refresh rate than when FPS was capped at 30). I couldnt find any script to turn the FPS cap back on so that i could test this. so cant say for sure.
battery does the "back from the dead" trick on me too. Playing a game like PES, Fifa etc., sometimes phone dies when battery was still 22-23%. Then restart the phone and it stays on for 2 odd hours. Start game again, and it dies within minutes again. Once it went to 0% while playing a game. I tried to switch it on, it did.. and i left it as it is... after 30 minutes, i check the phone, battery has crawled back to 31%!! and then it stays on for nearly 4 hours after that.
Basically, the battery can go on for 1 day or slightly more on standby... but if u use the phone (duh!), its kaput.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your battery seems to have other problem - needs to be recalibrated. In worse it needs to be replaced.
But firstly try things I have described above for jakuburban, it might help also.
Good luck!
HeliumX10 said:
Your battery seems to have other problem - needs to be recalibrated. In worse it needs to be replaced.
But firstly try things I have described above for jakuburban, it might help also.
Good luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I'll try all of them. I've set the CPU usage to ondemand (like I always had) and noticed one thing.
Whenever the screen gets on the CPU freq. gets to maximum (only when screen was on, doing nothing)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
And only after I turn off the screen it looks like that
That means that the CPU freq. is Maximum or minimum, nothing between that (rarely).
I'll provide more snapshots after longer usage
to jakuburban:
Wow, he we got it! Phone is on max frequency as possible all the time!
Also I cant see the deep sleep - could you test this:
- open CPUspy, tap form menu Reset timers
- use some task killer, kill all the application
- turn off the phone (not shutdown, only to disable screen) and leave it for few minutes
- after that turn on the phone and look into CPUspy if deep sleep was active. If not, we have second problem.
To fix it, do you have unlocked bootloader or you have custom kernel with standart bypass method?
BTW.: Wow, I am now the senior member ! I am getting older faster, than I thought
HeliumX10 said:
to jakuburban:
Wow, he we got it! Phone is on max frequency as possible all the time!
Also I cant see the deep sleep - could you test this:
- open CPUspy, tap form menu Reset timers
- use some task killer, kill all the application
- turn off the phone (not shutdown, only to disable screen) and leave it for few minutes
- after that turn on the phone and look into CPUspy if deep sleep was active. If not, we have second problem.
To fix it, do you have unlocked bootloader or you have custom kernel with standart bypass method?
BTW.: Wow, I am now the senior member ! I am getting older faster, than I thought
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So here is Your answer. I've changed my kernel to DooMLorD and everything works better
Nice to sse that it is solved
Also recommend to change CPU governor to "interactive" - its the best between almost nolags in eg. movies and apps and wit acceptable battery consumption. But not sure if it is includedin this doomkernel,so simply look into CpuMaster and give a try
"ondemand" governor has more battery drain in most roms.
HeliumX10 said:
Nice to sse that it is solved
Also recommend to change CPU governor to "interactive" - its the best between almost nolags in eg. movies and apps and wit acceptable battery consumption. But not sure if it is includedin this doomkernel,so simply look into CpuMaster and give a try
"ondemand" governor has more battery drain in most roms.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, set. I'll give it a try and report back after few days how the battery life has changed.
jakuburban said:
OK, set. I'll give it a try and report back after few days how the battery life has changed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK, the battery seems better. I've been using my phone all day long browsing the Internet and it was still more than 50% of battery.
Thanks guys, after changing to interactive i had the perfect combination of no lag and battery life! Thank you!