[Q] Video Recording tips - Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, anyone know of a better video recording app that has zoom options? Also what are some tips to get better video recording quality?
When I record outside its great but when inside with what seems to be decent lighting I get noise and the exposure settings don't seem to do anything...
Any tips?

Flashed stock honeycomb 3.1 and it seems to record with better video quality... Has anyone else noticed this? With TouchWiz it seems darker with alot more noise or am I just trippin?

Video recording
Hello,
I got 10.1 Galaxy tab wifi grey color.- Non rooted (usa)
Model: GT-p7510
Android Version: 3.1
Kernal Version: 2.6.36.3
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Build Number:HMJ37.UEKME P7510UEKME
I check video recording inside and outiside with good light with high resolution. it was grainy and also when you move the tablet -it become blurry during motion.
I tried to change White Balance value but no luck
I have Samsung Vibrant (galaxy S series) mobile which has far better result for video recording.
Is there any better app in Market which provide better video recording result?

No, unfortunately the camera used in the Tab10 is a low quality CMOS sensor and not very sensitive to light which is why the images and video are so grainy. Cameras on most smartphones are far better. The Tab 10 has one of the worst cameras sensors I have seen on a premium mobile device and I have used many devices. There is no software that will fix this as it is a hardware limitation.

5thElement said:
No, unfortunately the camera used in the Tab10 is a low quality CMOS sensor and not very sensitive to light which is why the images and video are so grainy. Cameras on most smartphones are far better. The Tab 10 has one of the worst cameras sensors I have seen on a premium mobile device and I have used many devices. There is no software that will fix this as it is a hardware limitation.
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Thanks for quick reply.
Oh..that is not good. i was under impression ( based on my samsung vibrant mobile) that video quality will be good than other tablets ( thrive or Xoom or Acer)
Just uploaded from Galaxy tab as it is from "Galary" app.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhEoNuiTozs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqe3UQpDmpc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfwnLLa4lVk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwSHIgl0jFM( outdoor)

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[Q] Slow motion video recording?

I would really love being able to do some slow-mo videos with my SGS2, any way to do so?
The camera simply isn't built for that kind of use. You could do it, if there were software, but the framerate would be atrocious.
Here's an app for playing back videos in slow motion...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.krovex.slowerVideo&feature=search_result
johncmolyneux said:
The camera simply isn't built for that kind of use. You could do it, if there were software, but the framerate would be atrocious.
Here's an app for playing back videos in slow motion...
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.krovex.slowerVideo&feature=search_result
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Probably the best and only solution. The camera was only built for up to 30fps I believe. If you know how slow motion cameras work (very high frame rate), you should see how this is a problem .
I'm bringing this thread back to life to save cluttering the board up with yet another similar one. I've been looking for an app to do the same thing and have, like other searching, not found anything to suit.
The reason I'm still chasing it down is that I had the Samsung Jet before my SGSII and even given it's age and utter lack of power compared it had the feature to be able to record video at high speed so that when played back it would be very good quality slow motion (25% speed if my memory recalls correctly).
Now, if that phone could do it so long ago with little native power and a poor camera then surely the SGSII could do something like that at the very least, even if the max video size had to be dropped to 640x480 or similar to keep the framerate more locked in?
Want that too!
Can somebody pls answer this question.. Is 30fps hardware limitation?? Really??
I once had Samsung OmniaHD with 8Mpix camera, probably not much different from any other, and 320x240 resolution it was able to capture 120fps..
How can it be a limitation of hardware? Isn't it possible to write an app that would capture even 240fps at lower resolutions?
8axter said:
Can somebody pls answer this question.. Is 30fps hardware limitation?? Really??
I once had Samsung OmniaHD with 8Mpix camera, probably not much different from any other, and 320x240 resolution it was able to capture 120fps..
How can it be a limitation of hardware? Isn't it possible to write an app that would capture even 240fps at lower resolutions?
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I'm searching for this since a year from now, I think the problem remains in the drivers and not in android SO, there is one or two android phones that support is, but I dont know how exactly, if I dont misstake samsung galaxy note 2 and one motorola has slowmotion, I belive that they build a driver to use de camera as fast as possible, on other devices I think that is not possible unless some can build such driver, and that probably will need to do in some native assembler code of each device cpu and irqs, unless the company release that driver
the functions of android to get frames from camera are very limited to useless stuff and pre-set formats and fps
I dont know whats about with android 3.1+ or 4, maybe thats SO has this functionality natively
get fast fps from a ccd camera is not a MP issue nor too much CPU requeriments nor related to amount of RAM
with a windows mobile 6.1 device such samsung omnia i900, that has a 625mhz CPU and a 5MP camera you can record 120fps in 320x240, the camera of this phone has ISO 800 (it doesn't mean 800fps, but means that it can get a very tiny little power signal from sensor in a very short amount of time) but android cameras discard this features and incorporates functions very limited and related to normal users
8axter said:
Can somebody pls answer this question.. Is 30fps hardware limitation?? Really??
I once had Samsung OmniaHD with 8Mpix camera, probably not much different from any other, and 320x240 resolution it was able to capture 120fps..
How can it be a limitation of hardware? Isn't it possible to write an app that would capture even 240fps at lower resolutions?
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I don't think you understand the concept of cameras well. The hardware determines whether it is 30 or 60fps and not the software.
For slow motion, the highest a consumer (or affordable) camera does is 1080p at 60fps.
There are cameras like phantom hd that do well over 1k fps but they cost 100k
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I don't think you understand the concept of cameras well. The hardware determines whether it is 30 or 60fps and not the software.
For slow motion, the highest a consumer (or affordable) camera does is 1080p at 60fps.
There are cameras like phantom hd that do well over 1k fps but they cost 100k
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Not completely accurate.
For a consumer camera, the highest framerate at 1080p might be 60fps like you say, but some low cost consumer sensors can do high fps at lower rez. My $100 Canon Elph 100HS from 2011 will do 640x480 at 120fps or (I think) 320x240 at 240fps. I've used the 480p120 option and it came out very nice for sports use, especially for reviewing batting swings with players. The sensor tech for fairly high frame rate at decent (480p) rez is not limited to >$1000 cameras, leading me to believe it's probably more software related. I don't know enough about the sensor in the GSII though.
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Apparently the Galaxy S II uses one of two identically spec'd (according to Anandtech) sensors from either Samsung or Sony. The Sony IMX105 specs are here. According to that page the sensor should be capable of 120fps at 1/8 sub sampling. I am not entirely sure what they mean by 1/8 sub sampling, but I would assume that it means using 1/8 of the effective pixel count or about 1M pixels. If all that is true, then the hardware should be capable of 640x480 at 120fps. Some assumptions there, though.

A few more days with the camera...

I've been taking some test shots with the mini pro camera, and I have to say I'm a bit let down.
Turns out the camera is a bit slower than I initially thought, and the pictures come out to be a pixelly mess.
I thought the dithering artifacts where only due to low light scenes, but it turns out I can see there artifacts with well let subjects.
The still frame camera does better than the video, but both suffer. Maybe Sony could do us a favor and have an option to remove in camera noise reduction. This would give us a chance to do better noise reduction in post to try and produce better quality results.
The video also suffers from cadence issues when outdoor light is very bright. I've seen this in dedicate video on stills cameras, it results in choppy video. I'd rather have smoother better quality low resolution video as compared to this dithered choppy mess of video.
Most of these artifacts are masked if you view video on the camera itself, but when you view them on your HDTV they are quite obvious.
Anyone have ideas on turning off the NR, I'd be happy to hear them.
Things you can do to help performance.
Set camera to fixed or infinity focus for faster response.
Use the sports mode for higher ISO shots, faster pics.
Use center weighted focusing.
Another interesting thing to note, I also happen to have the X10 mini pro. Looking at the phones side by side, the x10 has a slightly larger lens. I was a bit surprised at this change. I hope Sony makes an effort to bring better quality photo and video to the smart phones. Heck, they can make it their market differentiator.
Mike
hardware or software?
is it hardware problem or software? can video recording be improved through software upgrade?
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is it hardware problem or software? can video recording be improved through software upgrade?
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Possibly.
But you also have to realise that this is just a mobile phone, of course it isn't going to be as good as dedicated hardware.
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is it hardware problem or software? can video recording be improved through software upgrade?
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I can't say if software is an issue, but I'm certain hardware is an issue.
1 thing they could do from a software POV is to have an option to remove noise reduction. Sony may be not want people to see what the photos look like without NR.
2: It's a physics thing, the lens is tiny and the sensor is even smaller. The sensor technology is another issue. The sensor can only collect so much light, this directly impacts it's a ability to produce better photos. Note that Sony has a higher quality sensor Exmor they decide to reserve for other cameras.
I was hoping the phone could produce video quality to rival something like a flip phone.
3: Keeping the lens clean. It's hard to do this with a phone you constantly hold in your hand without some sort of lens shield. My old W580i hid the lens when it was in the close position. It also had a nice smooth easy to clean lens surface. It was only 2MP, but took excellent photos.
There are a few more things I could play with in my quest for better photos. For one, I should make sure the image stabilizer isn't on when I take well lit photo samples.
One other interesting thing I noted is the maximum shutter speed I've been able to produce. The camera may max out at 1/125 sec. I was a bit surprised, that's kind of slow. I haven't gone to see what my other camera phone can do, but that in itself shows the weakness of the phone.
Several of the shots I took under what I would call bright/normal lighting produced 1/16th shutter speed. This makes it hard to get a blur free photo due to subject movement and camera shake.
I was able to compensate some using sports mode, but that increases the ISO which = more noisy photos.
Mike
Comparison to x10 mini pro
Just had the opportunity to take a look at a few photos my wife has taken with the x10 mini pro. Actually, based on the experience with this phone, I decided to wait for and buy the mini pro 2.
I was happy and at the same time sad to see how much better photos taken with the x10 mini appeared vs. the mini pro 2.
The colors, focus, as well as resolution was better. Also noted that the photo size was larger, near the 1.5M size I expected out of the mini pro 2 photos.
Also noticed the x10 mini is capable of ISO 40.
I compared the panorama type shot, the X10 fared better, but still not great in panorama detail, I guess that's o.k.
Also noticed the x10 camera options are significantly fewer than those on the mini pro 2. That's fine since the photos are of decent quality though it would be nice to have a bit more control over the photo options.
I'm certain Sony could at least do something about the photo compression being used in the Mini Pro 2, it would be nice if the camera could at least equal the x10 mini pro photo capability.
Mike

1080p with overclock, or better quality on xperia mini pro?

Can someone explain why the camera of xperia mini pro s17i is so crappy? Grainy? blurry? (can go like this all day).
seriously, is there a way to overclock the cpu to get a better camera result? or maybe even full hd videos?
tnx.
Its about the quality of the sensor, (ability to capture light) no way to increase quality by overclocking.
Same goes to video recording, restricted by the sensor.
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I'm sure there's a way that you can edit the sensor. Someone just needs to figure out what the app that's controlling the camera is and see if there's anything in there that can be changed. Tbh I thought the camera on the Mini pro was quite good considering its a small phone.
LOL overclocking the cpu will not make the camera any better
You can't get better resolution of your camera, but you can playback 1080p files
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I don't know why people complain about the camera on the Mini Pro. Sure, it may be grainy and blurry on low light conditions, but even digital cameras have problems with low light.
Here's a sample in a day light, I think it's amazing quality for a phone at this price.
the video camera is blurry, compared to samsung focus hd videos
Yeah I'm curious about the potential of the still camera for 1080p also, I have not read anywhere that the display can show 1080p...but surely if the video camera can take up to 720p...the display should be able to show that? Is our phone screen then 720p? Wherevere I read the specs of the phone I cannot find that info. Is it tied to resolution? We've got MDPI ... but so does the X8 and that is not 720p.
you cant record 1080p by overclocking because phone hardware must be capable to do full HD encoding, adreno205 GPU along with 1Ghz single core scorpion CPU cant encode Full HD video so unfortunately, Its impossible to record Full HD video on our devices.
People should stop posting questions without using google first.
Some display 101: the 720p,1080p,1080i are display resolutions of a said device. The number is the amount of vertical pixels and the letter is either progressive scan, or interlaced. So, our devices have 480x320 pixels. The "best" resolution is a 360p. I put " " because in the end its all about how the media file is compressed. From my experience anything over 480p is an overkill... You wont see a difference between 480p, 720p, 1080p. Just a waste of space. If you want better results with a video file download Mx video player. It allows hardware encoding.
About the camera. No you cannot change the way it works. Unless ofcourse you are able to engineer a CMOS sensor in your garage that is. So you can stick with what you get. If you arw find of night photos where it gets grainy, get a camera, rather rely on a camera phone to do your business....
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Any way to improve the HD video camera?

Whilst the camera does a pretty reasonable job of taking photos the HD video recording is pretty poor to say the least. My previous Galaxy S5 took amazing HD video but poor still photo's (go figure!). I use the video feature a lot and this lack of quality (sharpness, focus, detail, some stutter, instability) is becoming tiresome and frustrating so I've begun testing all the various settings with the standard camera app and have also been trying a number of different apps to the see if they can improve things. I have a fast Samsung Class 10 SD MicroSD card installed also.
Up to this point there's little if any improvement from any of these apps and I've even installed the ported Moto X camera app but there's no appreciable improvement in quality with this either. So I'm now wondering if the limiting and un-fixible factor in this is the camera hardware itself, despite it taking nice, sharp stills.
Does anyone have any ideas how I can genuinely improve the video recording quality or whether it just can't be done with the Honor 7 camera hardware?

Mate 10 Pro Camera

Hello,
I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos looks bad, noisy.
I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.
Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting. At one moment I found it, but I don't know if it was before or after the Android 9 update.
I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.
My software version is 9.0.0.161.
1. Are there any problems regarding the update or my phone is broken ?
2. Does anyone also have those problems ?
Hi, I don't think you have a hardware problem. I have this phone since 16th november of 2018, with Oreo 8.0.0.157 C432-L29, i didn't have those problems. In Android Pie i think the app doesn't have the same performance like Oreo's. The AI of this app is INCAPABLE of making things right now, for me. Shooting photos is better, but videos in 1080p looks a bit weird , especially in low light condition. Maybe this is the problem. Let's hope in the next updates, they will fix it and make it better.
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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1st: video has been very bad on Huawei phones for a long time. It has not gotten better, even the mate 20 pro is far behind apple and Samsung.
2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
3rd: the phone has improved it’s photo quality and camera app in general over the past year I have had the phone since Jan 2018. It got updates every 2 months with new features almost every time. They added handheld night mode, face unlock, 960fps slomow, improved aperture depth detection, improved AI (looks a lot less oversaturated now) it also got gpu turbo and much much more. In the span of a year i Must say huawei impressed me.
4th: it took me some time to get to know the camera. Now my shots are much better (I use raw from pro mode) so it’s mostly about the photographer.
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2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
mike_8 said:
I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization it is software only. I have just checked and I don’t have the option in my phone either but I think it’s on automatically since there is a big crop. This is because they use the outer edges of the image sensor to make up for the movement. You can google how EIS in videos work. You can see much more when using 1080p60 so there is no EIS but when you switch to 1080p30 there is a huge crop.
Edit: I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
Hardware stabilization is optical stabilization but it does not do much (it is always on btw it is a way how the lense is built) except for removing shaking when taking photos it is especially useful in dark conditions where the shutter speed is reduced to take more light in. It will almost do nothing in videos. You can find out if a phone has optical image stabilization if you gently hit you phone close to the camera with one hand while holding it with your other there should be a little noise like there coins inside the phone.. That is because the lenses move around in order to counter camera movement from shaky hands.
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
mike_8 said:
The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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Lol sorry. Well it can’t be hardware if all is well when recording 4K or taking photos. So I guess it just doesn’t live up to your standards. In general many YouTube reviews criticize that 1080p looks more like 720p upscaled. Maybe that’s what you mean also.
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I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
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Hi,Alfred!
May I know the Android version and camera software version on your Mate during that test?

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