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Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
zimphishmonger said:
Hey everyone,
Ive head nothing but raving about the App Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice. Im personally having really bad battery life on my vibrant, and seems everyone is recommend this app. Im not running OCed, currently using Voodoo, have cycled battery recently, and I get around 6-8 hours on a battery. Although I know i'm somewhat of a high powered user, I think I should be getting better.
What is everyone using for settings in Juice Defender for settings, and is it really helping your battery life?
Thanks!
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I would also like to know this??
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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Sorry to semi-thread jack... But from what i understand, one of the main features of juice-defender is that when your screen is off, so is mobile data. I used google voice for all of my sms, would they still come through if there was mobile data off?
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No because GV uses data
Juice Defender will definitely save you battery, but it depends what type of user you are.
I used to love this app. It was one of my top 3 apps and I recommended this app to everyone I knew. It saved me a few hours of battery life with the default settings. But one day I decided to turn it off to see how my phone would preform. I noticed that JD slows down my phone (not too much, but since I play with my phone a lot, I do notice a difference). I kinda figured this since every time I turned my screen on, it would have to reconnect itself to 3G. It got a bit of annoying, but I'm pretty sure it won't bug that many people.
Now, my friend uses this app as well, and he gets amazing battery life with JD enabled. He only turns on his phone when he needs to (check email, responds to text, picks up a call, etc.)
So for the past month or so, I have stopped using JD. I'm the type of guy that touches my phone every 30 min or so. I like turn it on and mess with it just for the hell of it. So if you're like me, then I do not recommend this app, since you will notice a slight lag after turning the screen on with JD enabled.
Now if you're at work and only check your phone when you have to, then I highly recommend this app. It will definitely save you battery life. Don't know too much about the settings since I haven't touched it in awhile, but I mainly left it at the default settings.
Another tip that I noticed that saves battery is orientation. Ever since I disabled it in settings, I do notice a battery increase (I'm guessing the sensors are not always on causing it to save more battery?) Hope this little review helps zimp.
You can set it to turn on every 15 mins or whatever so you can still get your messages. I didn't like how it keep turn off my data every time the screen turned off even if it was only for a sec. I'm not convined that continually turn data on/off improves battery. If you leave phone on stand by for several hours then maybe, but I don't think a.power user gets much benefit from it. Also it is always running in the background so just having a widget to switch to plane mode might work better for you.
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
cnrdjkr said:
I actually used both and ended up uninstalling.. didn't really see much of a difference. look at my mods on my signature.. those nearly doubled it. i used juice plotter to graph the difference. that and I manually disable mobile and wifi with the power widgets. ya i spend a second pressing the button but works out better that way for me. so save the money and just disable it yourself.
also that when you use defender it takes a while for the data to turn back on when you open the screen compared to using the widget.
in short defender is basically you using the widgets but it does it automatically. BUT you are using an app to run all the time in the backround and that itself uses battery life... when i went to bed and turned off mobile and wifi. with my mod i didnt not lose 1% for those 8 hrs.. and went a full 24 hrs with no recharge..
i also have no task manager or cache cleaner.
real battery life depends on MOD, kernel, radio, and how you use it. these apps in my opinion are a waste. but it's up to you ...
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
To op, I used Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice and noticed it would slow my phone down and I would miss syncs and my information would go out of wack. I found the best way to conserve battery as an overuser is to turn off 3g. I use 2g 3g switcher. It allows you to switch between 3g and 2g. I gained at least 6 more hours on a full charge by turning it on only when I need the 3g speeds. Ie: downloading and surfing the net. For everything else Edge was more than enough. I went from roughly 12 hours medium-heavy use to 20-24. I'm also using Jac's uv voodoo kernel and vibrant 9.
I hope this helps,
Russ
HG! said:
I noticed way better battery life after uninstalling this app. At night, my battery would make it through with just 10% without changing, and half way through the next day. With JD, my battery dropped down to 2% when I would wake up.
Not for me.
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Agreed, I noticed an increase in battery life after uninstalling jd.
I did get better batery life after installing JAC's kernel (with undervolting) on top of bionix 1.3. I did not oc, yet. I read in the op you use vodoo, there is a JAC's kernel with voodoo written in with it now, but the process from going from your stock with voodoo to a new kernel with voodoo is admittedly beyond my experience level to talk about. That might garner some research on your part. The undervolting written into the kernel does extend battery life, I've been off my charger since about 9 this morning, normal to heavy use, currently at 43 percent battery left.
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use Tasker app. much better then JuiceDefender and much more options.....pretty much endless options. and it also supports all Locale Plug-ins.
Thanks for the recommendations! Interesting that so many of you actually had worse battery life after using it. May try it for another day and see how it works out.
Regarding the voodoo, I am still testing to see if voodoo uses more power or not. Theoretically it shouldn't, but who knows. its extremely easy to enable\disable voodoo, so easy that its worth keeping even if you keep it disabled, as its the same kernel as JAC's UV but + voodoo.
Appreciate the responses. I will play w/ JD for another day or so, will try tasker, adn see which has the best results.
To those that were worried about syncs like Voice, Emails, tweets, etc, its really easy to set it up so that those processes arent interrupted, especially w/ the ultimatejuice. I have it set up so it still syncs and background data apps like pandora work fine, just interested in everyones experience
Zim, I was having battery drain issues with jac's oc-uv kernel until I did the cycle/reset batt stats. Not I am getting GREAT battery life! You prolly already tried it but if not give it a shot.
Juice Defender has increased my battery life by x2.22...........really remarkable this program is!
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I am using Bionix 1.3 with KingKlick and I have been using it pretty heavily all day and I have about 75% left on battery (It's 5:30 PM right now)
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I am bamf remix 1.6.2 using the standard kernel. Will juice defender improve my battery life?
I've never used it. I'm using the updated kernel 4.4.6 OC'd all the way up on demand. Really liking the battery life.
my brother swears by juice defender on his thunderbolt but i haven't used it myself FWIW
All it really does is turn off your data connection at certain times, so yes it should improve battery life. I have never used it nor do I plan on using it. I bought a smart phone so I can always be "connected", I do not want my data connection to be cut off. But hey, if you don't mind it just might help you.
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I am bamf remix 1.6.2 using the standard kernel. Will juice defender improve my battery life?
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Green Power works better for me on the Thunderbolt.
dirtyfingers said:
All it really does is turn off your data connection at certain times, so yes it should improve battery life. I have never used it nor do I plan on using it. I bought a smart phone so I can always be "connected", I do not want my data connection to be cut off. But hey, if you don't mind it just might help you.
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You practically will be connected almost all of the time with JuiceDefender. It will turn off you data when not in use, but you can set up an internval where the data will turn on for however long you want for it to sync data like email.
Juice Defender didn't always turn 3g back on for me and I had to reboot to get it back. I lose a lot of battery when I reboot so I uninstalled this app.
I do use juice plotter and love to use it to manage my battery life, see trends and find out what I can do to stretch my battery life when needed.
I use JD Ultimate and think it does more than simply disconnecting your data. For example you can reduce the amount of data you receive which has greatly improved my battery life when I mostly needed to use my phone for things that did not require a whole lot of data.
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Ken, I am currently using Juice defender on the Tbolt and have seen some improvement, more like 5 percent an hour down with medium usage versus not having juice and dropping 10-12 percent an hour.
Still nice to have the extended battery.
I'd like to give the green power a shot as Pzy suggested.
I have had good luck with JD. Only use when I'm at work or out and about when I'm not using the phones data much and need the battery to last.
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Pzyborg said:
Green Power works better for me on the Thunderbolt.
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Same here. I tried juice defender and it was just OK, it added maybe an hour of usage.
But I tried the free Green Power last week and it added 4-6 hours of battery. Then I bought the full and with nightmode on, I am now at 1 day 8 hours since unplug with 23% of battery left. Display eats the lion's share, followed by phone calls.
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Same here. I tried juice defender and it was just OK, it added maybe an hour of usage.
But I tried the free Green Power last week and it added 4-6 hours of battery. Then I bought the full and with nightmode on, I am now at 1 day 8 hours since unplug with 23% of battery left. Display eats the lion's share, followed by phone calls.
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I just grabbed the free version, and it is saying "Only Wifi management is currently supported on your phone"
I don't know if this is because i'm running CM7 or if its normal.
Good call andy. Woot.
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smashingtool said:
I just grabbed the free version, and it is saying "Only Wifi management is currently supported on your phone"
I don't know if this is because i'm running CM7 or if its normal.
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I would have to agree with you being on an alpha build. Try another Rom.
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smashingtool said:
I just grabbed the free version, and it is saying "Only Wifi management is currently supported on your phone"
I don't know if this is because i'm running CM7 or if its normal.
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It works fine here but I am unrooted. I use the power widget and I can see the network and wifi turning on/off.
It might be CM7.
The disabling/re-enabling of radios was way too finicky for me, plus the fact that I didn't really notice anything but negligible gains in battery life.
I just bought the extended battery for $25 (got Verizon to give me a half-off discount) and called it a day.
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I am bamf remix 1.6.2 using the standard kernel. Will juice defender improve my battery life?
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It's gonna depend on how you use your phone. For the most part Juice Defender will only save your battery when your screen is off and your not using your phone. However you can set it to disable the networks when certain apps are running as well. So I guess it could save you a little if you had it set up for certain apps you use a lot that don't require a network connection (i.e. games).
I have been using Juice Defender with the stripped bamf rom and kernel. When my screen is off my battery is barely used. For example I went to bed at around 12am woke up around 6am and only lost 2% of battery.
I love JD. Yea i bought a smartphone that wants to stay connected but honestly it doesnt need to. Ive probably doubled my battery life, dropping maybe 1 percent in 3hrs, MAYBE, when its idling. I really like it. It doesnt take long for 3g to enable when i need it too, and plus i can enable it from the notification bar instantly.
Does anyone know what each mode does to the tablet besides the obvious of saving battery?
Also do you recommend downloading Juice Defender to increase battery life?
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Does anyone know what each mode does to the tablet besides the obvious of saving battery?
Also do you recommend downloading Juice Defender to increase battery life?
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check out this thread I made. if it doesn't answer, post any other questions there n ill answer best to my knowledge. Answer should be in this thread I made though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1412819
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Does anyone know what each mode does to the tablet besides the obvious of saving battery?
Also do you recommend downloading Juice Defender to increase battery life?
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From what I understand, it adjusts the Tegra 3 processor with how much power to give meaning lower the power selection, the slower the processor will perform but will give you better battery. I believe that is all the power settings are designed to do.
also Juice defender not needed as this device has great battery life. Actually the best battery life of any Android device. Right up there with ipad2.
I'm looking to squeeze a little extra battery life out of my DNA. I've used JuiceDefender in the past, but it looks like it hasn't been updated in forever. I've never used GreenPower, but it looks like it gets decent reviews. I think I tried BatteryGuru when it first came out (maybe a year ago?) and wasn't too impressed. Does anyone use any of these and get good results?
On the newest stock rom, under power settings, there is a toggle for "Sleep mode". It says it turns off data "during long periods of inactivity". Has anyone noticed a difference with this on or off?
I already do the standard battery saving stuff (turn brightness down, turn off Wi-Fi/bluetooth when not in use, etc.). Doors anyone have any other suggestions to get longer battery life? Thanks!
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I'm looking to squeeze a little extra battery life out of my DNA. I've used JuiceDefender in the past, but it looks like it hasn't been updated in forever. I've never used GreenPower, but it looks like it gets decent reviews. I think I tried BatteryGuru when it first came out (maybe a year ago?) and wasn't too impressed. Does anyone use any of these and get good results?
On the newest stock rom, under power settings, there is a toggle for "Sleep mode". It says it turns off data "during long periods of inactivity". Has anyone noticed a difference with this on or off?
I already do the standard battery saving stuff (turn brightness down, turn off Wi-Fi/bluetooth when not in use, etc.). Doors anyone have any other suggestions to get longer battery life? Thanks!
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Not sure if this will help, but I just started using a combination of greenify and wakelock detector today in an attempt to prolong battery life. I know these both operate completely different than the apps you asked about... I've noticed that most apps that "actively manage" settings to control battery usage end up burning quite a bit of juice themselves. Plus, it seems like you're already managing the setting those apps attempt to. Thought I'd stick to managing everything manually with a little help/info through greenify and wakelock d. I've also read good reviews on Gsam (similar to wakelock d). I'll let you know how well the combo works.
I recently purchased the Hyperion Samsung Galaxy S4 7500mAh Extended Battery with NEW MicroPack Technology. It is the same size as their 5200mah battery. The battery life doesn't seem to be anywhere near 7500mah. I only get about 6 hours on screen time and 18 hours on battery. Is this "MicroPack Technology" a scam? Is there anyway I can check the actual mah of the battery? (This is the 2nd battery as I thought the first was defective). Thank you for the help.
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I recently purchased the Hyperion Samsung Galaxy S4 7500mAh Extended Battery with NEW MicroPack Technology. It is the same size as their 5200mah battery. The battery life doesn't seem to be anywhere near 7500mah. I only get about 6 hours on screen time and 18 hours on battery. Is this "MicroPack Technology" a scam? Is there anyway I can check the actual mah of the battery? (This is the 2nd battery as I thought the first was defective). Thank you for the help.
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ive read somewhere that the battery they use [7500] is the same physical size as the 5200 so i thought the same as you.
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ive read somewhere that the battery they use [7500] is the same physical size as the 5200 so i thought the same as you.
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Yeah it's the same size, but can it be 5200mah? I feel like the battery life I'm getting is less than a 5200mah battery.
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Yeah it's the same size, but can it be 5200mah? I feel like the battery life I'm getting is less than a 5200mah battery.
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could be apps running in the background.
Turn off location services or make them run in powersaving state.
turn off wifi scanning
turn off auto sync
Turn on auto screen brightness
turn off wifi when not in range of wireless(huge difference)
Theres other ways to make it last longer also. Snapdragon app or battery saver can kill apps at screen off.
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could be apps running in the background.
Turn off location services or make them run in powersaving state.
turn off wifi scanning
turn off auto sync
Turn on auto screen brightness
turn off wifi when not in range of wireless(huge difference)
Theres other ways to make it last longer also. Snapdragon app or battery saver can kill apps at screen off.
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Thanks for the reply. I already do all of those things except for the snapdragon app, since my day to day schedule changes. I've checked wake locks. I use greenify, deleted bloatware. Not sure what to do anymore.
Any update on this? The product seems very interesting but I'm a bit skeptical.