[Q] Does the 2.08.651.2 update break ROOT? - HTC EVO 3D

I got the OTA update message and before I did this I wanted to know does anyone know yet if it breaks ROOT?

just flash the rooted rom Haus put up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223979

According to a tweet from the AlphaRev team, you aren't supposed to take the OTA unless you have already rooted using their S-OFF utility. There wasn't anything else to go along with the tweet, so if I were you I would wait for a confirmation on whether or not it breaks root OR you could be a guinea pig. I would think that HTC has patched the exploit in the update given that it has something included that changes the bootloader.
Just a FRIENDLY reminder, please remember to post questions like these in the Q&A section next time.

Yeah that is why I was afraid to update.. Be nice to have the new Android OS but the only thing I use ROOT for at this time is for Titanium Backup. But I don't want to take the update and find it will no longer work. I had used Revolutionary Root Method.
I'm not really up for flashing a whole ROM I just keeping phone as stock as possible but unlocked for great software like Titanium Backup. Yeah your right should of been in Q&A well maybe a mod will move this thread.

Read the rules please. Wrong area.
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As this isn't a contribution to any sort of development... it's going to Q & A.
Next time, please use the appropriate forum

any confirmation on this

If you are rooted do not take the ota!!! There is a rooted version of the update in development section. Just install that and you will have all the goodies with none of the headaches.

niketom843 said:
just flash the rooted rom Haus put up
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1223979
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some people have other custom roms though...

cruise350 said:
If you are rooted do not take the ota!!! There is a rooted version of the update in development section. Just install that and you will have all the goodies with none of the headaches.
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i saw the manual update for the OTA there, but not the said rooted one you mention
do you have a link by any chance?

I too would like that link to the manual Rooted OTA so I can update that method. Thanks

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Will the OTA Update be unrootable?

I haven't found a straight answer yet, so I am posting here. I am currently stock but I would like to root some time in the near future. I would also like to try the update before rooting. However, I am concerned that if I apply the update that the root method in the development forums may no longer be valid. Is it possible that Verizon could lock down the phone with this OTA update such that I will not be able to root after it is applied?
Thanks,
Josh
The ota is the exact same as what was leak about 2 weeks ago. JCase compared both and made that determination. I believe he also made a root unsigned copy for down load. Most devs have already incorporated this update into their roms. The only thing is the new radio will need flashed. Check out the development section and look for the roms posted by jcase. It is best not to run the ota/leaked on the older radio as they compliment each other. Any other questiins pm.
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I thought this update included the new radios?
U would have to flash the entire ruu, and that will give u everything. Most rooted flash the rom through recovery the flash radio through hboot. Jcase has a nice op in the development section.
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So if I update my stock phone via the ota update, I can still root afterwards if I decide no problem?
It appears that yes you should be able to root the ota via JCase's root tutorial.
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If u decide to flash a custom rom, the update is in most of them, u would just have to flash the radio separate.
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Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
reilly44 said:
Hey Guys,
I rooted my Thunderbolt but I really don't like it anymore. I'm really new to this and just want to go back to the factory settings. I can't get the OTA update doing it manually and its pissing me off.... can anyone help me?
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If you're rooted, you could have gotten the OTA update weeks ago. But if you are determined to return to stock for whatever reason, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009423.
A lot of roms already have the OTA's long before they are released, i use those and dont even bother with OTA's anymore. I would really consider staying with root. theres so much more you can do i dont see why anyone wouldnt want it. but if you are determined to then the link mentioned above works fine.
What radio should I flash via hboot on Das BAMF v1.6.3? There are 4 combos to choose from.
Which radio combo is included in the OTA that just went out a few days ago? Is that the one I should choose for Das BAMF v1.6.3?

Any information on this supposed update for thunderbolt.

I was recently using the drippler application and it said that there will be an update soon coming out for the thunderbolt again any word on this.
Only things I've seen are what jcase tweeted about GB OTA testing @ VZW. But I haven't actually looked for anything further detailing.
http://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/92055760430841856
http://twitter.com/#!/TeamAndIRC/status/92021408661647360
Zinsko said:
I was recently using the drippler application and it said that there will be an update soon coming out for the thunderbolt again any word on this.
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Real information or stuff i can make up to make you happy for a little bit (also called pulling a verizon)
I for once am waiting patiently for the update. It will get here when it get's here. Right now there are plenty of GB roms out there to try but at this point I am going to stick with rooted stock.
Please accept my up-front apologies for being a n00b to the rooted update world.
My assumption is that if we are running a custom ROM, an OTA update from Verizon will not help us and is not advisable.
In case of a Gingerbread OTA, are people planning on reverting to stock to take advantage of the VZW offering? Or is it only that an official GB gives the developer community better, more current source to build from?
I could be mistaken but I do not think I am. Most OTA updates have already been leaked on XDA(usually devs and other people are good about keeping there eyes open for this stuff). Also I believe that if you are rooted you will nto receive the OTA update and nothing will happen. However if you want to get it then you should unroot. But most likely(if it already hasnt happened) people will put the new OTA update on xda quite fast! Hope this helps
BoulderGeek said:
Please accept my up-front apologies for being a n00b to the rooted update world.
My assumption is that if we are running a custom ROM, an OTA update from Verizon will not help us and is not advisable.
In case of a Gingerbread OTA, are people planning on reverting to stock to take advantage of the VZW offering? Or is it only that an official GB gives the developer community better, more current source to build from?
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Yeah it gives the devs a more stable base to work from. Also from what I saw if you want to root do NOT take the gingerbread update. It closes all known exploits. And of course if you are already rooted don't take any OTAs just wait for someone to post a rooted version if you want to try it.
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JBO1018 said:
Yeah it gives the devs a more stable base to work from. Also from what I saw if you want to root do NOT take the gingerbread update. It closes all known exploits. And of course if you are already rooted don't take any OTAs just wait for someone to post a rooted version if you want to try it.
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Will do. Thanks for the confirmation, JBO1018 !

[Q] Current root user with custom ROM (before OTA)

I'm currently rooted with Revolutionary.io method and running a custom ROM.
I'd like to know what would be the best way for me to get rooted and latest update OTA (including all needed WIMAX, PRL, etc..)?
Any suggestion from evo3d Expert?
P.s: I've been going over many threads, but did not see one thread to explain how this can be done.
Check the thread for the custom rom your using and see when they will update the rom with the current ota.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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cruise350 said:
Check the thread for the custom rom your using and see when they will update the rom with the current ota.
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i concur
thats the best thing to do

Ota on stock htc rooted phone

So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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The update patches all known root exploits, meaning you probably won't lose root but will lose the ability to re-root should something happen. My advice, just wait til you're ready to flash a custom ROM which will likely already have the update cooked into it without any possible negative side effects.
I would wait until people confirm if it takes away root, etc... In general with a rooted phone OTA updates are a NO. Wait until someone posts a rooted version in here.
Oh and one more thing... don't ever post in the development section, Q&A section is your friend.
Once u root do not ever take any ota updates. It's been stated multiple times. If u want the update just wait and there are 100% stock roms with updates usually within a day or two of the ota update. Either u want to move foward with ur rooted device and flash roms, even if it is stock, or stick with what u got. If u can root ur own phone flashing roms isn't anything to worry about.
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mustang_52 said:
So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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As far as I know you wont be able to install OTA on rooted device.
Ok. I wasn't sure if anyone was working on a stock rom but ill wait. Is there any roms you guys recommend that are stock looking but worth running? Also I will use the q & a forum next time. I thought since this dealt with root and roms this would be the place. Sorry.
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I heard that u should ineligible take the update and root again.
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For some reason when i got my new device a day ago hboot is 1.5 and i did the OTA security update, with the method below i was able to flash Custom ROM and Kernel
sidenote: if you dont flash the kernel i posted below you wont have wifi or 4G
(S-on but still able to flash anyROM with your eyes close)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Kernel
(with this kernel i was able to flash to get everything working, without it you wont have Wifi or 4g fyi)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1224659
I Hope this help... Thank me later!!
joehunni said:
The update patches all known root exploits
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I don't this that's true at all. I've read a few posts saying people still have root after applying the update to a stock rooted rom. They just had to change permissions in the superuser directory and everything worked after that.
mwalt2 said:
I don't this that's true at all. I've read a few posts saying people still have root after applying the update to a stock rooted rom. They just had to change permissions in the superuser directory and everything worked after that.
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No no, I'm not saying you will lose root by updating, I'm saying I read somewhere that it patches up the exploits that revolutionary uses to get s-off. In other words, if you have hboot 1.3 or 1.4 then you probably won't be able to get s-off. I don't remember who posted that but it was a respectable dev.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321452
mwalt2 just uploaded this =] gunna try out and see whats up with the update
mustang_52 said:
So what is the consensus for taking the latest ota with a stock rom and htc unlocked and rooted? I'm not ready to install a custom rom yet but do want the security fix but I haven't seen much talk as to people in my situation. Thanks in advance.
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joehunni said:
No no, I'm not saying you will lose root by updating, I'm saying I read somewhere that it patches up the exploits that revolutionary uses to get s-off. In other words, if you have hboot 1.3 or 1.4 then you probably won't be able to get s-off. I don't remember who posted that but it was a respectable dev.
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The update doesn't contain an HBOOT. It has a new recovery, removes and patches/updates some things in /system, and has an updated boot.img. I suppose it does check to see if you are on the latest ROM (2.08.651.2, which is the one that patches AlphaRev's s-off method) before it will install though. By itself, the update will either fail to install (probably if you don't have HBOOT 1.5 or a custom ROM) or it will install and you'll be just fine using root once you change permissions on the su directory.
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[Q] Noob E3D rooter with questions

Hello all. I have had my Sprint EVO 3D since about mid July. I rooted it via this forum (Thanks for that by the way. You guys on this forum ROCK) once the permanent root solution was posted. I am confused however about updates. Since I rooted my phone one or more OTA updates have been released. I know I am supposed to cancel them and NOT accept the OTA updates since I am rooted. With that being said HOW do I update? I have read where patched updates would be posted but I am unable to locate them. Is it possible for someone to point me down the right path? Thanks in advance.
Warlockmatized said:
Hello all. I have had my Sprint EVO 3D since about mid July. I rooted it via this forum (Thanks for that by the way. You guys on this forum ROCK) once the permanent root solution was posted. I am confused however about updates. Since I rooted my phone one or more OTA updates have been released. I know I am supposed to cancel them and NOT accept the OTA updates since I am rooted. With that being said HOW do I update? I have read where patched updates would be posted but I am unable to locate them. Is it possible for someone to point me down the right path? Thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443592 Read this
Depending on what Hboot version your on, it makes a difference.
Thanks so much for the fast reply (thanks button hit). I feel confident doing things to my phone. What I am lacking however is the terminology y'all use here at XDA. I searched for updates but was unable to find them. Thanks again for your reply.
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Depending on what Hboot version your on, it makes a difference.
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*MY* Hboot verz is 1.40.1000
Look in the development forum, and find a rom that has the updates you're looking for. They usually put a change log in the OP (original post) that will let you know what updates have been made.
Thanks for all the replies. Looks like I've got some research to do

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