Sprint clean ESN GSM works in europe? - HTC EVO 3D

I'm from italy and currently interested in buying the said cell, while trying to find a good price for the gsm version of the evo3d i stumbled across some actions pretending to sell a gsm/sprint version. The version is labled as "sprint clean esn. Finding it a bit weird id really love to know if the cell is actually going to work for me in italy of if it's just a scam.
According to the seller of the action (which i can't link having <8 posts) the specifics are :
Detailed item info
Product Information
Want a phone that sees the world like you do? Switch to the Android Gingerbread HTC Evo 3D. This HTC smartphone features a glasses-free 3D display and lets you add another dimension to your photos and videos by capturing them in 3D. The dazzling 4.3 inch HD display of the Evo 3D ensures you enjoy fluid videos and vivid images. This HTC smartphone offers both Swype and HTC's virtual keyboard for text entry, allowing you to type with ease. You can use the Micro-USB port and an MHL adapter to connect HTC Evo 3D to your HDTV and enjoy the fun on the big screen. What’s more, the Evo 3D has a dual-core 1.2GHz processor and a larger battery.
Product Identifiers
Brand HTC
MPN APX515CKT
Carrier Sprint
Model Evo 3D
Type Smartphone
Key Features
Capacity 1GB
Color Black
Network Technology GSM, HSDPA
Band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 HSDPA 850/ 900/1700/1900/2100
Camera 5.0 MP
Battery
Battery Capacity 1730 mAh
Display
Diagonal Screen Size 4.3 in.
Other Features
Touch Screen Yes
Bluetooth Yes
Digital Camera Yes
GPS Yes
Email Access Yes
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I've also found on the italian ebay actuion for the same cell, according to the auctioner :
"It's a sprint clean esn, without contract you can put any sim. It doesnt have locks nor anything else" He also pretends the cell is actually working from him.
So the big question is : are those cells going to work in italy or it's just a scam?

It may not be a scam, just a stupid or uninformed person. Sprint is CDMA not GSM and does not use sim cards. You must get a GSM version.

Yeah that's pretty much I thought, however seeing so many auction pretending the cell to be gsm :
NEW CLEAN ESN HTC EVO 3D Sprint APX515CKT 8GB FREE CHAR | eBay
HTC EVO 3D Nuovo, garanzia 24 mesi - ULTIMO STOCK | eBay
I really wanted to ask to make sure.
Thanks for saving me from the scam!
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Swap Parts?

Hi,
my TP2(european version) is stuck on bootloader - tried any possible solutions found on the forum but to no avail. Since spare parts are quite cheap on ebay, I would like to know if I can swap a Sprint/Tmobile or basically a TP2 US version lower part(the whole keyboard/board...) to the upper part(LCD..etc) of my tp2?
Basically, the upper part will be from the european part and the lower will be the US one. Does anyone know if the phone will work if I do this?
Thanks.
I think swaping lcd part to the sprint usa would be easier.
Raul^ said:
I think swaping lcd part to the sprint usa would be easier.
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You would need the board from the GSM TP2 or CDMA TP2 depending on what you are using now. These are not interchangeable. Sprint = CDMA; T-Mobile = GSM. You would possibly also loose the ability to use 3G as it is carrier dependent in the US market.
lower body (keyboard) will fit... switch out the motherboard as well in order to work with your carrier. i did this on my phone.
Will the front camera work if I just swap a tilt2/verizon/sprint/tmobile motherboard on the phone and will the slider fully fit the upper part when closed?
Have you actually found a spare board. These are not actually sold since they are the most expensive and hard to build parts. Unless someone offers you his broken one!
Also, check if you are using GSM now, if so you are probably better off using a european board.
Greetz,
Steyn
Tilt2 board works on european Screen and vice-versa but the front camera will not work and also the 640x480 MP4 recording won't be available since it seems HTC has disabled these options for the American market. I have been trying with at least 3 Tilt2 boards since my phone broke while flashing firmwares. Fortunately Tilt2 boards are available here in the U.S to swap parts.

EVO 3D european version !!!

Awesome news from HTC !!!
EVO 3D european version confirmed from HTC france ! even with its same name , no release date yet.
this got me very excited, how about you guys ?
check this out , the original article with HTC france twitter link
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/28/htc-france-confirms-evo-3d-will-come-to-europe/
What 3g bands do the euro phones normally work on, 850/1900?
they added it to gsmarena , here is a comparision btween the gsm and the cdma version
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3901&idPhone2=3895
900/2100 is the standard for phones for Europe/Asia.
Apparently when the GSM version of the phone was first posted on the HTC website it had the 900/AWS/2100 bands listed but that information was removed a couple of days before all the specs were taken down. Probably because of the AT&T/T-Mobile acquisition, which looks like it will end in AWS going away in the USA.
peachpuff said:
What 3g bands do the euro phones normally work on, 850/1900?
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Good news!!!
I found in the european version only 1 GB of internal storage... why in the hell such a lame amount of memory instead 4GB of usa version????
I can't understand this policy of htc, and why on 2011 only 1GB of storage, I think al teast 4Gb of rom is the minimum requirement....
I don't want to experience again the lack of space for installing apps like my actual htc desire with only 120 Mb of space...
Yes, the specs for the European/Asian version listed only 1GB of storage BUT I am hoping that that may change before release since HTC have now pulled all the specifications from their worldwide website and not just the 3G frequency bands, which they pulled before.
Vomar said:
Good news!!!
I found in the european version only 1 GB of internal storage... why in the hell such a lame amount of memory instead 4GB of usa version????
I can't understand this policy of htc, and why on 2011 only 1GB of storage, I think al teast 4Gb of rom is the minimum requirement....
I don't want to experience again the lack of space for installing apps like my actual htc desire with only 120 Mb of space...
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Vomar said:
Good news!!!
I found in the european version only 1 GB of internal storage... why in the hell such a lame amount of memory instead 4GB of usa version????
I can't understand this policy of htc, and why on 2011 only 1GB of storage, I think al teast 4Gb of rom is the minimum requirement....
I don't want to experience again the lack of space for installing apps like my actual htc desire with only 120 Mb of space...
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Maybe the Sprint version has 3 GB worth of bloatware.
junta_mpb said:
Maybe the Sprint version has 3 GB worth of bloatware.
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I don't know what's that, i tried google translate with no results.
Anyway for me 1Gb of space is a shame in2011 for a high end phone
I hope there is a simple mistake into the specs.
It's quite illogical to have same phones with different ram size.
I like that there will be a gsm version, this way the community will expand.
nxdu said:
It's quite illogical to have same phones with different ram size.
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This is storage, not RAM and we do often see US versions of the phones with different storage, different batteries and sometimes different designs. It depends on what the carrier asks for.
Also in some phones the built in storage is actually a microSD card, which is perfect for different configurations for different markets.
april 12th , London , we might get a confirmation
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/htc-invites-us-to-see-whats-next-on-april-12th/
the Evo 3D has today been taken off of the UK HTC site...?
its great news!!
i live in israel and it will work also here!!
maby i will sell my DHD and buy this...?
Htc evo 3d in instanbul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KiJ5zYbSc4
I don't understand german, if someone could write what are they talking about evo 3d
Confirmed as coming to the UK in Q3.
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2011/06/27/htc-evo-3d-headed-to-the-uk-with-android/
I'll definitely not wait untill september, I'll get LG Optimus 3D instead
x7nofate said:
I'll definitely not wait untill september, I'll get LG Optimus 3D instead
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Why september? engadget says it will be out next month
yeah I now that now, but before I read in here>>> http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2011/06/27/htc-evo-3d-headed-to-the-uk-with-android/ "The HTC Evo 3D is out in the UK in Q3, so it should be with us by September at the latest."
Vomar said:
I don't know what's that, i tried google translate with no results.
Anyway for me 1Gb of space is a shame in2011 for a high end phone
I hope there is a simple mistake into the specs.
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Gsm version Prolly gets a fat 32gb SD card...and ours does have a hefty chunk of boosts lol
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amaze 4g world wide

hey every one nice to be in this great device forum
okay ill go to it straight iam looking for my new android phone and i was liking the sensation until i was shocked with htc stupidness in making the ram 768 so i thought of galaxy s2 international version later i foudn about the great amaze 4g
well i was again shocked since i found it was inly in usa looked in google and nothing about world wide
any way later i found this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FACTORY-UNL...0763973827?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item415ed640c3
okay the price with shipping to my home is 610 usd thats a bit of money so my questions are
1-does the amaze earn this money i dont care if its a bit expensive but will i be happy ? my uses are (internet-ebuddy-music) btw i can get gs2 international version for almot 520 usd
2-which is better gs2 international version or teh amaze plz be fair
3-is there any news about world wide launch ?
4-how does the amaze do in many sides
i mean camera speaker battery wifi signal (does it has death grip like rest htc phone )
5-is it safe to buy from that seller on ebay and will it work in my country i mean egypt and saudi too
greetings wish u help me

Looking to get a new phone...

I'm currently a proud owner of a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus V running Android 4.0.4 It's a great little phone- I'm guessing it is virtually indestrcutible- (I dropped it. ALOT. And spilled some water. Not even a hiccup!). It's a little phone that could and for something like this- it's amazing, but I feel it's time for an upgrade. As great as it is, let's face it. It's ancient. A 600MHz ARM V6 processor, 418MB of memory, and it's screen is only 3.2". It's opnly supposed to run Froyo. /FROYO/. That's pretty ancient. I'm looking for a new phone, but here's the catch- It has to be on a reasonably inexpensive pre-paid plan. (My parents don't want me to get a contract and I don't blame them, they can be expensive.) Virgin Mobile (My current carrier; 35 dollars a month with unlimited 3G) has only two "decent" phones- A 199.99 HTC One V. A SOLID phone but seriously, 512MB RAM and a SINGLE CORE 1GHz is really not a lot. On the other hand, they have the 300 dollar Evo V 3D with 4G, though it's not really something I want and it's a bit over my prace range- (Up to 250 USD).
While searching plans, I found T-Mobile's 30 dollar Monthly 4G plan. It's wonderful for me. I don't call much but I use lots of data and text alot. T-Mobile also has better coverage, and this is 4G. Not boring old 3G. (I don't mind 3G, but 4G is just better.) While thinking of decent phones I could manage to get GSM Unlocked, I thought Galaxy SII, Galaxy Nexus, and a few others. I looked all around Craigslist NYC, Amazon, Google, and Ebay for all phones and I found that on ebay the bids for a decent SII in decent condition could reasonably be bought for under $250 (T-Mobile/GSM). I'm wondering- Do I need the GSM or the T-Mobile variant, or will either work. Is this phone good and a value for the money? I really like the design and the specs on it. It also has lots of JB ROMs and Native ICS which is a HUGE plus.
Also, is there any difference between the SII with the Capacitive buttons and the one with a huge Home button? (P.S.: I like the one with all capacitive buttons more )
Thanks for reading this.Any answers/input is greatly appreciated.
Edit! I was looking at the ebay link again and found a website called Wirefly where they are offering a SII 4G for 100 bucks if I make a new account. Does this count with a Prepaid account? And if so, is the SII 4G compatible with normal SII roms?
http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/Sp...da9ca042dbbe0118305fb0d033&showcustblock=true
TauSigmaNova said:
I'm currently a proud owner of a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus V running Android 4.0.4 It's a great little phone- I'm guessing it is virtually indestrcutible- (I dropped it. ALOT. And spilled some water. Not even a hiccup!). It's a little phone that could and for something like this- it's amazing, but I feel it's time for an upgrade. As great as it is, let's face it. It's ancient. A 600MHz ARM V6 processor, 418MB of memory, and it's screen is only 3.2". It's opnly supposed to run Froyo. /FROYO/. That's pretty ancient. I'm looking for a new phone, but here's the catch- It has to be on a reasonably inexpensive pre-paid plan. (My parents don't want me to get a contract and I don't blame them, they can be expensive.) Virgin Mobile (My current carrier; 35 dollars a month with unlimited 3G) has only two "decent" phones- A 199.99 HTC One V. A SOLID phone but seriously, 512MB RAM and a SINGLE CORE 1GHz is really not a lot. On the other hand, they have the 300 dollar Evo V 3D with 4G, though it's not really something I want and it's a bit over my prace range- (Up to 250 USD).
While searching plans, I found T-Mobile's 30 dollar Monthly 4G plan. It's wonderful for me. I don't call much but I use lots of data and text alot. T-Mobile also has better coverage, and this is 4G. Not boring old 3G. (I don't mind 3G, but 4G is just better.) While thinking of decent phones I could manage to get GSM Unlocked, I thought Galaxy SII, Galaxy Nexus, and a few others. I looked all around Craigslist NYC, Amazon, Google, and Ebay for all phones and I found that on ebay the bids for a decent SII in decent condition could reasonably be bought for under $250 (T-Mobile/GSM). I'm wondering- Do I need the GSM or the T-Mobile variant, or will either work. Is this phone good and a value for the money? I really like the design and the specs on it. It also has lots of JB ROMs and Native ICS which is a HUGE plus.
Also, is there any difference between the SII with the Capacitive buttons and the one with a huge Home button? (P.S.: I like the one with all capacitive buttons more )
Thanks for reading this.Any answers/input is greatly appreciated.
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Your profile says you're in the US, so I'm assuming your talking about T-Mobile USA.
The Galaxy S II for T-Mobile is massively different than the "one with the huge home button", as you refer to it. They have completely different hardware, including SoC/CPU/GPU.
The "one with the huge home button" is the I9100, and this post is currently in the forum for that device.
The one for T-mobile USA that has the 4 capacitive buttons is the SGH-T989, and that device has its own forum.
There are also other variants for US carriers AT&T, Sprint, and US Cellular. The one for US Cellular doesn't have its own forum but is somewhat closely related hardware wise to the Sprint variant, so there are posts concerning it within that forum. But the AT&T, Sprint, and T-mobile USA variants are all different from each other, and they are all different from the I9100.
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TauSigmaNova said:
Edit! I was looking at the ebay link again and found a website called Wirefly where they are offering a SII 4G for 100 bucks if I make a new account. Does this count with a Prepaid account? And if so, is the SII 4G compatible with normal SII roms?
http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/Sp...da9ca042dbbe0118305fb0d033&showcustblock=true
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That's still the SGH-T989.
Uhuh.... I'm getting a bit confused. Should I simply repost this thread in the other forum?
TMobile USA has like 2 diffent SIIs? Im so confused..
TauSigmaNova said:
Uhuh.... I'm getting a bit confused. Should I simply repost this thread in the other forum?
TMobile USA has like 2 diffent SIIs? Im so confused..
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Pretty sure they only have one.
If you have questions about the T-mobile version, you should post in the T-mobile forum. This device does work on T-mobile USA's network, but only gets Edge, as it doesn't fully work to get "4G" on that network.
ctomgee said:
Pretty sure they only have one.
If you have questions about the T-mobile version, you should post in the T-mobile forum. This device does work on T-mobile USA's network, but only gets Edge, as it doesn't fully work to get "4G" on that network.
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Ah, I thought this would be the forum to post it in since i was considering either a GSM Unlocked one or TMobile.
TauSigmaNova said:
Ah, I thought this would be the forum to post it in since i was considering either a GSM Unlocked one or TMobile.
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You need to consider what network you're intending on running the device on before you get the device itself.
The i9100 gets high speed data on AT&T's network, but only gets Edge on T-mobile USA's network. There's nothing that can be done about this; the phone antenna hardware just doesn't receive one of the two necessary frequencies to make it happen.
I've heard rumors that the T-mobile variant can be modified to get high speed data on AT&T's network, but it doesn't work that way out of the box.
The LTE variant that AT&T sells (the Skyrocket) can reportedly be modified to get high speed data on T-mobile USA's network, but it doesn't work that way out of the box.
EDIT: BTW, the Skyrocket has its own separate forum from the AT&T variant as well.
ctomgee said:
You need to consider what network you're intending on running the device on before you get the device itself.
The i9100 gets high speed data on AT&T's network, but only gets Edge on T-mobile USA's network. There's nothing that can be done about this; the phone antenna hardware just doesn't receive one of the two necessary frequencies to make it happen.
I've heard rumors that the T-mobile variant can be modified to get high speed data on AT&T's network, but it doesn't work that way out of the box.
The LTE variant that AT&T sells (the Skyrocket) can reportedly be modified to get high speed data on T-mobile USA's network, but it doesn't work that way out of the box.
EDIT: BTW, the Skyrocket has its own separate forum from the AT&T variant as well.
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I want to buy the TMobile or International device and use it on TMobiles Monthly 4G service. Prefferably from the wirefly link if I can use it.
TauSigmaNova said:
I want to buy the TMobile or International device and use it on TMobiles Monthly 4G service. Prefferably from the wirefly link if I can use it.
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As I said, the i9100 (which is the international device) will only get Edge speeds on T-mobile USA's network. As long as you know this going in...
Any questions pertaining to the device actually sold by T-mobile should go to the forum for that device.
ctomgee said:
As I said, the i9100 (which is the international device) will only get Edge speeds on T-mobile USA's network. As long as you know this going in...
Any questions pertaining to the device actually sold by T-mobile should go to the forum for that device.
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Yeah, I posted this thread there and hope to get replies soon.
TauSigmaNova said:
Yeah, I posted this thread there and hope to get replies soon.
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BTW - the implication in your first post is that 4G is VERY important to you. You DO realize that this eliminates the I9100 as a possible choice for your device to use on T-mobile's network, right?
ctomgee said:
BTW - the implication in your first post is that 4G is VERY important to you. You DO realize that this eliminates the I9100 as a possible choice for your device to use on T-mobile's network, right?
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No, no, it's not VERY important to me, but it's a very nice plus.
Just get a brand new galaxy nexus from the play store. You won't be disappointed.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
obtained said:
Just get a brand new galaxy nexus from the play store. You won't be disappointed.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Oh, I know I wont be. (Aside from the camera) but 350 is still more then i can spare..
samsung galaxy s3 to use all the roms!
TauSigmaNova said:
I'm currently a proud owner of a Virgin Mobile LG Optimus V running Android 4.0.4 It's a great little phone- I'm guessing it is virtually indestrcutible- (I dropped it. ALOT. And spilled some water. Not even a hiccup!). It's a little phone that could and for something like this- it's amazing, but I feel it's time for an upgrade. As great as it is, let's face it. It's ancient. A 600MHz ARM V6 processor, 418MB of memory, and it's screen is only 3.2". It's opnly supposed to run Froyo. /FROYO/. That's pretty ancient. I'm looking for a new phone, but here's the catch- It has to be on a reasonably inexpensive pre-paid plan. (My parents don't want me to get a contract and I don't blame them, they can be expensive.) Virgin Mobile (My current carrier; 35 dollars a month with unlimited 3G) has only two "decent" phones- A 199.99 HTC One V. A SOLID phone but seriously, 512MB RAM and a SINGLE CORE 1GHz is really not a lot. On the other hand, they have the 300 dollar Evo V 3D with 4G, though it's not really something I want and it's a bit over my prace range- (Up to 250 USD).
While searching plans, I found T-Mobile's 30 dollar Monthly 4G plan. It's wonderful for me. I don't call much but I use lots of data and text alot. T-Mobile also has better coverage, and this is 4G. Not boring old 3G. (I don't mind 3G, but 4G is just better.) While thinking of decent phones I could manage to get GSM Unlocked, I thought Galaxy SII, Galaxy Nexus, and a few others. I looked all around Craigslist NYC, Amazon, Google, and Ebay for all phones and I found that on ebay the bids for a decent SII in decent condition could reasonably be bought for under $250 (T-Mobile/GSM). I'm wondering- Do I need the GSM or the T-Mobile variant, or will either work. Is this phone good and a value for the money? I really like the design and the specs on it. It also has lots of JB ROMs and Native ICS which is a HUGE plus.
Also, is there any difference between the SII with the Capacitive buttons and the one with a huge Home button? (P.S.: I like the one with all capacitive buttons more )
Thanks for reading this.Any answers/input is greatly appreciated.
Edit! I was looking at the ebay link again and found a website called Wirefly where they are offering a SII 4G for 100 bucks if I make a new account. Does this count with a Prepaid account? And if so, is the SII 4G compatible with normal SII roms?
http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/Sp...da9ca042dbbe0118305fb0d033&showcustblock=true
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The link you posted, is for customers who create a new post paid (contract) account through us for T-Mobile. We do offer T-Mobile pre-paid phones and accounts, but the prices are usually different. I am happy to help you with any questions you have about Wirefly - I work at our HQ. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk plan specifics.
Wirefly_Kim said:
The link you posted, is for customers who create a new post paid (contract) account through us for T-Mobile. We do offer T-Mobile pre-paid phones and accounts, but the prices are usually different. I am happy to help you with any questions you have about Wirefly - I work at our HQ. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk plan specifics.
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Its fine, really. I simply do not like any of the T-Mobile prepaid phones. Bad dev support/specs. I'd gladly get a postpaid but they're expensvce , contracts are a hassle, and my parents won't let me get a contract: prepaid only. I live 4 blocks from a TMobile phone, I can just buy the plan there.
Also, I think the S3 is out of my price range. Plus, the s2 is still a great phone and I kinda like the design more.

[Q] DNA, Note 2, or secret third option?

Hi all,
I'm currently on a Galaxy Nexus and due for an upgrade on Verizon. I'm reading through the threads comparing the DNA and the Note 2, and I haven't yet made up my mind which I'd prefer. But I'm noticing the trend toward bigger phones, and I totally get it -- a bigger, high resolution display is a nicer experience for anything visual. And I can't help but wonder: Even with a Note 2, will I wish the display was bigger? Might I be better off with a small 4g phone that lives in my pocket and a Nexus 7 to tether to it? The price difference between a Razr M and a Note 2 would more than pay for a Nexus 7, so it's not a completely unreasonable comparison.
I'd value the thoughts of experienced smartphone users on this matter, particularly if you've used several of the devices I've mentioned above.
Nobody Important said:
Hi all,
I'm currently on a Galaxy Nexus and due for an upgrade on Verizon. I'm reading through the threads comparing the DNA and the Note 2, and I haven't yet made up my mind which I'd prefer. But I'm noticing the trend toward bigger phones, and I totally get it -- a bigger, high resolution display is a nicer experience for anything visual. And I can't help but wonder: Even with a Note 2, will I wish the display was bigger? Might I be better off with a small 4g phone that lives in my pocket and a Nexus 7 to tether to it? The price difference between a Razr M and a Note 2 would more than pay for a Nexus 7, so it's not a completely unreasonable comparison.
I'd value the thoughts of experienced smartphone users on this matter, particularly if you've used several of the devices I've mentioned above.
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I can't imagine anything bigger than the N2 being used as a primary phone. You get used to the N2's size, and it actually seems smaller the more you use it, but you still can't do a lot of things one-handed. What you said about extra screen real estate is true; it makes everything you do better. Consuming content, texting and e-mailing, web browsing, and navigating menus and making selections. But it's big and heavier than traditional high-end phones. I have a 3G 10.1" tablet and when a had a One X I used the tablet 90% of the time for anything content related because of the size difference between their displays. With the N2 it's about 35/65%. 7" or 10.1" is still better for content than 5.5". A two-device solution could be a DNA or 4.7/4.8" phone and a 7" or 10" tablet. I can't imagine replacing a tablet with the N2 even though it's better at a lot of things than a phone with a more traditional display size.
Oh, here we go again...
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BarryH_GEG said:
You get used to the N2's size, and it actually seems smaller the more you use it, but you still can't do a lot of things one-handed.
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What kind of things can you do one-handed on Note 2?
what i don't get is why there's so many note 2 proponents in the DNA section...
this thread is as useless as my nipples
because. there aren't already like 3 of these threads already
When I first ordered the DNA, I had plans to use it as "my tablet" but since getting it on Monday I absolutely love it, coming from a 4' screen, I was a bit scared of the overwhelming 5' screen. but I plan to keep the inc4 as my music player, DNA as daily, and getting the Nexus 7 for tablet for xmas.
I suggest trying the phone out you will love it!
The build quality is like none other, there's a few kinks with the custom recoveries, but i'll get sorted out soon.
S-OFF is also in the works, this phone is a powerhouse!
milan03 said:
What kind of things can you do one-handed on Note 2?
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Quite a bit if you set it up right. If you put all the apps you use most in the lower 1/3 of a home screen you can reach them all pretty easily if you have decent size hands. So I can open and select e-mails to read, same thing for MMS and contacts. I can also open and read my calendar. You can't dial a number or reply to an e-mail or MMS one handed without using S Voice; at least without worrying about dropping the phone. I can call anyone in my contact list one handed because it's easy to open and scroll (vs. typing the number in) with one hand. Palming the device and using your thumb you can reach about 1/3 of the way in at the very top of display and fully across the bottom 1/3. One really positive thing about the size is it's easier to use when you're in motion like in a rental car van, subway, or any place else where you're bounced around by movement. A bigger target's much easier to hit (with one or both hands). Necessity is the mother of invention.
I know you’re not a fan of the N2’s size and don't even consider it a phone but I wish you could try one for a couple of days. To your point (and I totally agree), there are quite a few things you have to learn to do differently but once you’re used to it it’s not really that bad. And like OP said there’s a lot of upside to having more screen real estate to work with.
I also have one of these which makes it tons easier to do stuff without becoming “one of those people” that look all too self-important wearing a BT headset 24/7. Although you get more attention talking to a pen then you do holding a giant slab of plastic (the N2) against your face.
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andybones said:
I was a bit scared of the overwhelming 5' screen.
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It's 2/10 of an inch bigger than the SGS3's and 3/10" of an inch bigger than the One X's.
It all comes down to personal preference. For my son, it's the Note 2. For me, with YEARS upon years of experience ( ) it's the DNA - no brainer.
As always, YMMV.
And I think my son is secretly jealous.
I have a GN2 and really like it. I'd probably really like a DNA if I had one.
They both bring a feature that I consider extremely important - the large screen size is easier on my poor eyesight. I'll never go back to a small phone, and I don't necessarily think the GN2 is at the upper limit for size. When a bigger phone comes out I'm going to try it out and see
You should experiment with both until you find a reason to like one more than the other, and decide for yourself. IMO they're both fantastic, industry-leading phones, and they both have their fine points. My phone is the right fit for me, but you can only find out for yourself. If you take an honest approach to evaluating phones you might be surprised at what you end up thinking are the most important features.
Good luck in your search!
Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful responses. I'm particularly interested, though, in users who have tried the two-device strategy (my 'secret third option' in the OP). Is this viable? If I had both a DNA and a Nexus 7, would I find myself leaving the N7 at home since the display and power of the DNA are plenty, or will I be grabbing the N7 constantly since the extra display real estate is so nice? It's so hard to tell how you'll use a gadget until you're actually using it...
BarryH_GEG said:
It's 2/10 of an inch bigger than the SGS3's and 3/10" of an inch bigger than the One X's.
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yea, but I', coming from a 4' LTE phone..
also, the 3/10' does make a bit of a diff, the one X I can hold in my hand much better than the DNA
DNA's a VZW phone. Can't be used outside the US (+ It's CDMA technology, just as bad as being a republican, I guess); note2 is good, but I'll go for the HTC butterfly, pre-ordered for Christmas!
To the forum admins... Are you planning on creating a HTC butterfly section, or do we have to wait till you guys get your developer handsets?
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Cookie Ninja said:
DNA's a VZW phone. Can't be used outside the US (+ It's CDMA technology, just as bad as being a republican, I guess);
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HTC Droid DNA is GSM Unlocked smartphone out of the box. Works with any SIM card on almost any global carrier of your choice.
Besides being a SIM unlocked GSM phone, it clearly supports CDMA + EvDO + Band 13 LTE for Verizon's native network.
milan03 said:
What kind of things can you do one-handed on Note 2?
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I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I can do everything one-handed in my Note 2, save for playing certain games which would require two hands with any phone anyways.
Ok sonny, it works with TMo, but still on 850/1900 GSM and 2100 AWS, still not fit for using outside the US, go learn. The ROW uses GSM & LTE on very different bands. GSM radio and a micro-SIM slot on the DNA is to give it a thin veneer of being a 'world phone', same tech as on dinc 4G, and all other VZW-specific phones.
The penta-band Nokia and Motorola offerings in the US fare much better. Learnt with bitter experience after buying a Palm pre at bestbuy, five-six years ago, only to return it six months later (when I came back to pay a visit to my sis & parents).
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Trust me in this Milan03, if you're using a US specific phone, however brand new it is, you are still behind the times....
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Ok sonny, it works with TMo, but still on 850/1900 GSM and 2100 AWS, still not fit for using outside the US, go learn. The ROW uses GSM & LTE on very different bands. GSM radio and a micro-SIM slot on the DNA is to give it a thin veneer of being a 'world phone', same tech as on dinc 4G, and all other VZW-specific phones.
The penta-band Nokia and Motorola offerings in the US fare much better. Learnt with bitter experience after buying a Palm pre at bestbuy, five-six years ago, only to return it six months later (when I came back to pay a visit to my sis & parents).
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You've failed to prove that DNA can't be used overseas. I don't care if you like Nokia or Moto better, you're missing the point.
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 and HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 out of the box is pretty much everywhere. MiniSIM or MicroSIM it doesn't matter. Global capabilities are there.
Oh, and T-Mobile doesn't have 850Mhz holdings anywhere in the US. Get your facts straight, mkay?
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GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 and HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 out of the box is pretty much everywhere.
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You're right. Native multi-band GSM support is included in the unified SoC/radio of all Qualcomm's S4 chips. So is LTE but different chips are shipped with different bands enabled. That's why N4 owners have been able to kluge LTE on a theoretically GSM-only device. CDMA devices require an additional radio which means the DNA has two radios where GSM/LTE S4 devices have one. The space that extra radio needed may have been what cost you guys an SD card slot.
BarryH_GEG said:
You're right. Native multi-band GSM support is included in the unified SoC/radio of all Qualcomm's S4 chips. So is LTE but different chips are shipped with different bands enabled. That's why N4 owners have been able to kluge LTE on a theoretically GSM-only device. CDMA devices require an additional radio which means the DNA has two radios where GSM/LTE S4 devices have one. The space that extra radio needed may have been what cost you guys an SD card slot.
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Actually, with Qualcomm's MDM9615 28nm baseband chipset, CDMA and GSM radio is integrated with full voice support, all on a single die. Fusion with two radios no longer needed. Also, quad-core S4 Pro's don't have integrated radios on the SoC anymore, thats only on Duals.
HTC J Butterfly is on KDDI network which is also CDMA + LTE, and it has SDcard slot, so the reason why DNA doesn't have card slot has nothing to do with design compromises. It has a lot to do with Verizon.
N4 LTE on Band 4 situation = careless LG software engineering team that forgot to disable it. They're also using MDM9x15 chipset, the same as in LG Optimus G which has similar RF paths so the hardware is there.
At this point they'll either have to disable it in future updates, or send another filing to FCC. Right now this could be a legal issue for accessing unlicensed spectrum.
milan03 said:
Actually, with Qualcomm's MDM9615 28nm baseband chipset, CDMA radio is integrated with full voice support. Fusion with two radios no longer needed.
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Thanks for the correction; I don't follow CDMA that closely and just made an assumption. And there are two version of S4 Pro. The MSM8960T (dual-core) does have the cellular modem on-board while the APQ8064 (quad-core) doesn't. Since the architecture's the same I thought the wireless capabilities were too. But that brings us back to the earlier battery life discussion as having discrete cellular radios shouldn't be as efficient energy usage wise which was touted by Qualcomm as a benefit of earlier S4 chips having them integrated.
Cookie Ninja said:
DNA's a VZW phone. Can't be used outside the US (+ It's CDMA technology, just as bad as being a republican, I guess); note2 is good, but I'll go for the HTC butterfly, pre-ordered for Christmas!
To the forum admins... Are you planning on creating a HTC butterfly section, or do we have to wait till you guys get your developer handsets?
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really,guy?

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