I am looking for opinions from former Epic4G owners on the differences in the screen quality between these two phones.
Pro's/Con's, quality, hue, color temperature, contrast, visibility in bright sunlight, etc. Your opinions and input would be greatly appreciated.
TIA
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This screen actually looks better in my opinion... also when in direct sunlight.. wow you still see it better than ever.
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I prefer the Epic screen and camera quality over this Photon but the speed,gps and battery life made it a worthy upgrade for me.
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Im about to replace my epic with a photon. Do you all see an improvement in 3G speeds? My 3G speeds on this epic are AWFUL.
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The epic had a great screen but so many things just didn't work well. My gps was useless and bluetooth and wifi were flaky.
On the photon everything works. It is fast as hell too. The screen, while not as good as the epic, is better than the evo 4g.
the SAMOLOED is very impressive when it comes to depth, contrast, detail, etc..
I really miss looking at the screen on my Epic.. however, (if you're only comparing screens).. the Photon screen is pretty damn good.. I can see it in bright sunlight w/ sunglasses on. it doesn't look grainy, i notice that while scrolling, it seems to 'dim' a little bit but this might be a characteristic of the pentile display.. colors look just fine (although, to be fair, I'm color blind ).. If you're looking for a Hi-Def TV... go get one. this is a damn phone LMFAO.
The screen is better than the Evo 3D FWIW...
now, to be fair, you should also compare the other aspects of the devices to make an informed decision.. the GPS works on photon/flaky on Epic.. same for bluetooth. the 3G radio on Photon works really well and is fairly quick (compared to the Epic).. bluetooth just works on photon/flaky on epic. battery life on photon is disgustingly good (is that a word ?? LOL).. Epic = mediocre..
to be fair, I have SRF 1.2 on my Epic and I love that device.. I just don't have any complaints (yet) w/ the photon and I've had it a week
I hope this helps
Was running SFR 1.2 and now running modified EG22 on my Epic4G. I am one of the lucky ones that has a fully functioning GPS since the Froyo update and haven't have any other major issues.
I am legally blind/low vision impaired so my major concerns are about screen visibility at night and bright sunlight as well as color temperature, hue and contrast as these are very important to me for the ability to view images without losing detail. The Epic4G is definitely adequate and I do love a hardware keyboard but I am drawn to the slightly larger screen size and higher processing capabilities.
The epic had a better screen and camera, but the screen on the Photon is nice. Like others have said, works in direct sunlight even with sunglasses on.
One issue I have is that watching HD mp4s worked on the epic, but not on the Photon.
Otherwise, the photon is a better phone. I had issues with wifi and gps on the epic but no problems on the photon. Everything else is improved, but i don't find the improvements all that drastic. Web browsing is faster, but not exceptionally faster.
I think the scrern has a bit of a blueish tint to it. Its very bright very easy to see. I haven't noticed really anything wrong with the screen. because its 540 x 960. Some print may be smaller then they where on the epic.
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Hey guys i want to know how good the screen is on this phone as i am thinking about buying one, and i thought you guys who own it will be able to tell me what the reviews seem to miss.
How visible is the phone in sunlight? and compared to my friends HTC desire..which was AWFULLLLL, but with brightness up on iphone it was good enough.
Unbiased opinion please!!
Great. You won't have any prob. I tested it, had no prob at all. Had it on Auto Brightness, all time.
Gsmarena quote,
All in all, Super AMOLED Plus screens and mobile phones are really meant for each other. It’s a perfect match that reveals all the strengths (unrivaled image quality, perfect viewing angles, energy efficiency and great sunlight legibility), without suffering the traditional OLED weaknesses (higher production costs for larger units and shorter life).
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Regards.
have your screen bright, and this is awesome!
Superb, much to my surprise. Could watch vids on beach in Sardinian sunshine this summer with no problems - apart from sand
Super Amoled is the best display especially when viewing in sunlight. So you will not regret
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I don't watch Netflix on my phones that much, but i was bored today on lunch and decided to watch a Doctor Who episode. I noticed that the video playback was very dark and grainy (brightness all the way up). I'm sure others have noticed this as well but i couldn't find any posts about it. I know that the phone is capable of 1080p playback so i fired up an HQ youtube video and it looked anything but high quality. The pentile display could be the culprit in this case, but it seems like it would be the gpu because it still seems like the resolution is low. Thoughts? Comments?
Hd on my phone looks great. I won't deny the pentile display leaves a lot to be desired, but not on pictures and videos. At least for me.
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The graniness during playback is a negative characteristic of the pentile display that some people notice and others don't. The graniness is greatly reduced (even eliminated) when you turn the brightness down. I would recommend turning the brightness down to the lowest setting. The photon's display is so bright that you will probably never need to turn it up.
I noticed the dark grainy too, I thought it was just the program I was watching.
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The graniness during playback is a negative characteristic of the pentile display that some people notice and others don't. The graniness is greatly reduced (even eliminated) when you turn the brightness down. I would recommend turning the brightness down to the lowest setting. The photon's display is so bright that you will probably never need to turn it up.
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I've tried that and the quality was a bit better, however the contrast ratio on this phone is so great that the darks are dark as hell. I don't notice the pentile "screen door effect" unless i am looking for it, or if it catches my eye for a split second. Oh well, i still love the phone, i guess the Iphone's retina display spoiled me.
I dont think its the videos or the software playing the video. Its the Display Technology Moto chose to run with. Ive been on 30+ android / windows mobile / ios phones and this phone has the worse Display I have ever seen.
Its great that the display is in QHD res but the colors are awful on this phone. Coming from Evo 3D / Nexus 4G those 2 phones alone have bright colors. Especially the Nexus since it uses a AMOLED screen.
The photon is a GREAT phone but the display is just crazy bad. All my pictures / videos don't have enough color to them which then give it that grainy look. Shouldn't have to turn brightness down but even while doing that, there is still grainy picture.
Ima hold on to the photon for a lil while longer and then might jump to GSII.
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I dont think its the videos or the software playing the video. Its the Display Technology Moto chose to run with. Ive been on 30+ android / windows mobile / ios phones and this phone has the worse Display I have ever seen.
Its great that the display is in QHD res but the colors are awful on this phone. Coming from Evo 3D / Nexus 4G those 2 phones alone have bright colors. Especially the Nexus since it uses a AMOLED screen.
The photon is a GREAT phone but the display is just crazy bad. All my pictures / videos don't have enough color to them which then give it that grainy look. Shouldn't have to turn brightness down but even while doing that, there is still grainy picture.
Ima hold on to the photon for a lil while longer and then might jump to GSII.
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Oh boy, brace yourself for the wrath that will ensue... Let me run for cover.
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The blacks being to dark is black crush. This can be fixed with software. Hopefully something like voodoo will come out to allow us to make these changes.
Also note that display also has white sub pixels in addition to RGB which is supposed to increase the perception of brightness without being brighter. At least that is what i understood.
Last note when watching netflix, 4g and wifi seem best. Not sure if the limited 3g bandwith could be lacking the addition black information making the blacks crush.
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The blacks being to dark is black crush. This can be fixed with software. Hopefully something like voodoo will come out to allow us to make these changes.
Also note that display also has white sub pixels in addition to RGB which is supposed to increase the perception of brightness without being brighter. At least that is what i understood.
Last note when watching netflix, 4g and wifi seem best. Not sure if the limited 3g bandwith could be lacking the addition black information making the blacks crush.
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Black Crush. That is exactly what it is. Everything else in this phone is near perfect. GPS locks in seconds. Speaker for music is loud and clear. Camera takes beautiful pictures. The camcorder is beautiful also at 720p 30 frames per sec. Phone is beast. Only draw back i see is the display BUT phone is nice and bright while outside in direct sunlight. As for the display i guess thats when DLNA and Micro HDMI come in LOLOL.
I know, there are a lot of threads about that and I read them! They are all outdated, they were written when razr had GB and nexus was on ICS.
What about now? RAZR has ICS and Nexus has JB.
I may have the opportunity to sell my RAZR (it has scratches, I hate my dog -.-" ) for 300€ and buy a new Nexus for the same price.
Do you think this is a good idea?
I'd say yes. The nexus screen looks much crisper and better, especially white text and things like that. Also for me the big selling point of the razr was the 8mp camera, but I find the Nexus takes better pics, mostly because I find the razr to have dull colors in the pics
Thanks! Someone else?
Depends on what matters to you…
The razr is a great phone, best radio, best sound quality, bright display, nearly indestructible and completely reliable. Sports a nice set of helpful extra functionality. Display is lower resolution and pentile, thus not as crisp as the nexus, still consider it much better (see below).
The nexus has the latest android version, and is open to custom roms. The display is higher resolution, but very dim, awful at low brightness (smudgy), and colours are completely off (yellow tint and gamma is a mess). The latter can be corrected to some degree with custom kernels. No SD card and only mtp. Battery life is short, but can be remedied by swapping batteries. Build quality is ok, but nowhere compared to the razr.
To put it simple, for me the razr is a great tool, the nexus a fun toy.
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Actually just received a Galaxy Nexus myself yesterday, and thus far, I pretty much agree with both of the above posts. Build quality-wise, the RAZR feels more solid, obviously much slimmer in the hand, and is lighter than the Nexus without feeling cheap. However I am surprised by the Nexus' build quality, it's not anywhere near as plasticky feeling as some previous Samsung phone's I've felt...there's no hollow creakiness to it when you hold it and it feels hefty. The only disappointment comes when you pry off the battery cover...it's one incredibly cheap cover.
The RAZR has considerably better sound quality, the speaker is much louder...in fact I believe the RAZR has one of the loudest loudspeakers period out of any phone out there. The Nexus on the other hand is much, much quieter...I'd say too quiet for the most part. I use speakerphone mode a lot for calls so this matters to me and is almost a deal breaker on the Nexus.
The Nexus does have a sharper screen, but I find the RAZR's screen gives more of that eye popping and color saturated AMOLED look, which you either love or hate. I find both screens are horrible at rendering white, and both look very yellowish if you use Auto-brightness. I thought the Nexus' 720 display sharpness would be night and day different to my eyes, but it's really not in day to day usage. More and more though I'm starting to realize I don't much care for AMOLED screens and would probably want a regular LCD for my next phone, the whites bother me quite a bit and I do get bothered by the heavy blue or green tint they pick up as you view the screen at off angles.
I haven't taken pics yet with the Nexus, but just from what I saw in the camera app, the camera seems to be much better at auto-focusing. I find the RAZR's focusing to be difficult to work with, and the picture quality is not that great.
Jelly Bean is indeed more fluid and smooth, but you'll still run into the occasional stutter here and there. More annoyingly is I'm already running into apps that won't work right on it. So expect to go through your usual headache period of apps not working, until developers catch up to updating their apps for Jelly Bean.
On the development front, there's a tremendous difference, the Nexus is indeed a developer's phone and it shows in its developer forum. I'm amazed at just how comprehensive the Nexus toolkit is that lets you bust open the phone effortlessly compared to any other phone...totally an all in one stop for rooting, bootloader unlocking, custom recovery, etc. The amount of available ROMs is also insane and make's the RAZR's totally a laughable joke in this regard.
In the end I'd agree with the sentiment that the RAZR makes a better day to day phone, while the Nexus makes for a better side toy to mess around with and install new stuff on.
Hey guys. Sorry for the hijack. This is really interesting as I am thinking of a gnex myself. Or a sgs3 if i can afford it.
Thanks for the thoughts.
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I've reconsidered! I'll keep my razr. It's a great phone after all and jelly bean is not enough to justify the change. Thanks to all of you!
I want to know how the OG compares to the Galaxy S3 in terms of hardware. Its a shame the OG is running ICS and because of that I will be unlocking the bootloader as soon as i get (seems thecubed is almost ready to release) and running an AOSP based ROM. So for me the deciding factors are really just the hardware and most importantly is the screen quality.
The other main reason i'm considering the OG is because its very similar to the N4 which will make development easier, I would have went with the N4 and never looked back but 16GB is just not enough for me.
So how would you compare this to the S3?
only phone that compares to LGOG is HTC DNA there is no other comparison... SG3 was last month's Adonis
got LGOG?
This phone is better than the s3 in every aspect, faster better screen way better colors and clarity. The camera it's a wash between the two but I'm used to HTC which had better cameras than either.
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I have a video up comparing the Samsung galaxy S3 to the LG Optimus G.
PM me for a link.
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I want to know how the OG compares to the Galaxy S3 in terms of hardware. Its a shame the OG is running ICS and because of that I will be unlocking the bootloader as soon as i get (seems thecubed is almost ready to release) and running an AOSP based ROM. So for me the deciding factors are really just the hardware and most importantly is the screen quality.
The other main reason i'm considering the OG is because its very similar to the N4 which will make development easier, I would have went with the N4 and never looked back but 16GB is just not enough for me.
So how would you compare this to the S3?
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If you care about the screen quality, then there is no comparison. The OG's IPS display is waaaaay ahead of SAMOLED in every way but contrast. For clarity, color accuracy, color balance, and brightness the LGOG wins hands down.
Thanks for the input, what about build quality of the phone?
I think HTC has the best build quality of any manufacture, Samsung is okay just don't like the plastic feel and LG has had a bad rep.
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Thanks for the input, what about build quality of the phone?
I think HTC has the best build quality of any manufacture, Samsung is okay just don't like the plastic feel and LG has had a bad rep.
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Build Quality of the Optimus G is very solid. Glass front and I assume glass back also. One thing to consider about the AT&T variation is that their is a miniscule gap between the display and outer region of the phone where dust and particles get in (something that my Optimus G keeps collecting).
OG
Not even really a competition OG wins by a mile and a half in terms of spec. And from the looks of it we will be able to ROM our phone very soon so our development is not lacking either.
hmm I have no idea which of the 3 versions we get in Canada, I don't think its the AT&T version because we only have 32GB non expandable memory with 8MP camera so maybe its the international version?
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hmm I have no idea which of the 3 versions we get in Canada, I don't think its the AT&T version because we only have 32GB non expandable memory with 8MP camera so maybe its the international version?
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Yours is a different animal, altogether. It's not the same as the international version, nor is it the same as the two U.S. versions.
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Picked up my LGOG this morning. Had the opportunity to place the S3 side by side with the LGOG... the difference on the screen alone was day and night to me. I upgraded from the Atrix 4G.
been watching a few reviews and i notice in most of the videos the screen has a lot of glare, one of my main issues with the HTC Radiar was glare especially in direct sunlight. I find the AMOLED screen on the S3 is much better in sunlight, but wondering how the OG compares.
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been watching a few reviews and i notice in most of the videos the screen has a lot of glare, one of my main issues with the HTC Radiar was glare especially in direct sunlight. I find the AMOLED screen on the S3 is much better in sunlight, but wondering how the OG compares.
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Well I am not sure about the GS3, but when I had my Epic 4G (normal super amoled) it was horrible in the sunlight. The OG fairs much better.
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been watching a few reviews and i notice in most of the videos the screen has a lot of glare, one of my main issues with the HTC Radiar was glare especially in direct sunlight. I find the AMOLED screen on the S3 is much better in sunlight, but wondering how the OG compares.
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The OG screen is much brighter and has less reflectance than the S3, so it has better outdoor viewing.
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S3!
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If you are talking ATT especially the S3 is only dual core with adrena 225 gpu which is really weak compared to the LGOG
I hope you guys a re right with Project GeeFree this maybe my next phone, kinda considering the HTC One X+ as well but, in terms of next gen tech its the LGOG
I have a Galaxy Nexus, SGSiii and I just got the OG. I like the looks of the SGSiii better than the OG. The screen and audio and overall performance is great on the OG, but I say the same about the SGSiii. I love the Galaxy Nexus on 4.2 and I have loved the device since day one.
With all that said. I believe the OG on AOSP soon will be amazing. I do prefer the look and feel of the Nexus 4 over the OG side by side.
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jebise101 said:
been watching a few reviews and i notice in most of the videos the screen has a lot of glare, one of my main issues with the HTC Radiar was glare especially in direct sunlight. I find the AMOLED screen on the S3 is much better in sunlight, but wondering how the OG compares.
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LOL .... amoleds are absolute sh!t in sunlight
I don't really know that there is any actual comparing the S3 to the LGOG.
They are sorta different ballparks in most respects.
since this has such a crazy ppi, i was just wondering, does anyone actually notice a difference in quality between this and a 720p phone? is there an actual tangible difference or is it just marketing for a bigger and better screen?
It pretty much depends on your vision.
If you have 20/20 or better than you can tell the difference at times, but if your vision ain't so great then you will probably never notice the difference.
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I suppose it depends on your vision... I'm 20 and I use a computer most of the day tbh, it's my hobby and my job right now, yet I can see the difference between 333ppi (or 326, w/e) on the Rezound, and 440ppi of the DNA. On the rezound, it looked amazing, truly great, but if you looked really close (no magnifying glass or anything) you COULD make out pixels... on the DNA, nope.
I can't see a damned pixel... It's like the whole phone is composed of vectors xD besides images of course. It's truly remarkable... but as far as humans go, they've hit the barrier, any more ppi than 440 would be un necessary to be honest. Unless people start getting genetically enhanced vision, there's no need for higher. but that's another story haha.
I have better than 20/20 vision and i used dna all day yesterday and then used s3 at home and it was noticeable difference. everything is sharper, renders better, not as bright as s3 at full brightness but cant tell a difference any other time. great screen best ever imo