[Q] ppi diferences - HTC Droid DNA

since this has such a crazy ppi, i was just wondering, does anyone actually notice a difference in quality between this and a 720p phone? is there an actual tangible difference or is it just marketing for a bigger and better screen?

It pretty much depends on your vision.
If you have 20/20 or better than you can tell the difference at times, but if your vision ain't so great then you will probably never notice the difference.
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I suppose it depends on your vision... I'm 20 and I use a computer most of the day tbh, it's my hobby and my job right now, yet I can see the difference between 333ppi (or 326, w/e) on the Rezound, and 440ppi of the DNA. On the rezound, it looked amazing, truly great, but if you looked really close (no magnifying glass or anything) you COULD make out pixels... on the DNA, nope.
I can't see a damned pixel... It's like the whole phone is composed of vectors xD besides images of course. It's truly remarkable... but as far as humans go, they've hit the barrier, any more ppi than 440 would be un necessary to be honest. Unless people start getting genetically enhanced vision, there's no need for higher. but that's another story haha.

I have better than 20/20 vision and i used dna all day yesterday and then used s3 at home and it was noticeable difference. everything is sharper, renders better, not as bright as s3 at full brightness but cant tell a difference any other time. great screen best ever imo

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what is so great about the SGS hardware?

That sounds like I'm being a prick but I'm just trying to learn. I didn't find what I was looking for on Google but a friend suggested xda. I'm coming from a nexus and my wife has the iphone4. Now the I4 is a "retina display" with many more pixels than android phones and its I will concede that I can't see a pixel on its screen. As far as text and application icons and any lines in the UI, they are like nothing I've seen from a phone or even a desktop. I find it troubling that we haven't heard rumors about nice displays for upcoming androids. But the vibrant has a superamoled, what I do know is that I can easily see pixels in every image I look at, but android phones like this are at most just 800x480 so I guess its a given that the UI and text and lines and images in all applications will be fuzzy? And so where does the Super come in to play? Contrary to what i was told the vibrants display definitely doesn't look any better than my nexus which isn't really bad because the nexus absolutely has a respectable display. The one difference I've seen is that avatar looks very good on the vibrant. I had avatar downloaded on my nexus it was a 720p version and it became pixelated with lots of movement. Not so the vibrant. I noticed the vibrant skips or sort of hiccups during heavy action scenes which I'm guessing is reflective of the processor? But the picture looks good. So is superamoled strictly for media? I guess if it had decent resolution the UI would look slick like the iphone4 regardless the display being amoled samoled lcd slcd or whatever right? So i shouldnt expect that the SAMOLED is supposed to make the UI in general look particularly good is that correct? I realize it seems dumb but the only thing that looks a bit better than my old nexus is watching certain movies. The vibrant has a great processor and a super amoled. Can anyone explain some of the practical benefits of the vibrants hardware?
fandroid135 said:
That sounds like I'm being a prick but I'm just trying to learn. I didn't find what I was looking for on Google but a friend suggested xda. I'm coming from a nexus and my wife has the iphone4. Now the I4 is a "retina display" with many more pixels than android phones and its I will concede that I can't see a pixel on its screen. As far as text and application icons and any lines in the UI, they are like nothing I've seen from a phone or even a desktop. I find it troubling that we haven't heard rumors about nice displays for upcoming androids. But the vibrant has a superamoled, what I do know is that I can easily see pixels in every image I look at, but android phones like this are at most just 800x480 so I guess its a given that the UI and text and lines and images in all applications will be fuzzy? And so where does the Super come in to play? Contrary to what i was told the vibrants display definitely doesn't look any better than my nexus which isn't really bad because the nexus absolutely has a respectable display. The one difference I've seen is that avatar looks very good on the vibrant. I had avatar downloaded on my nexus it was a 720p version and it became pixelated with lots of movement. Not so the vibrant. I noticed the vibrant skips or sort of hiccups during heavy action scenes which I'm guessing is reflective of the processor? But the picture looks good. So is superamoled strictly for media? I guess if it had decent resolution the UI would look slick like the iphone4 regardless the display being amoled samoled lcd slcd or whatever right? So i shouldnt expect that the SAMOLED is supposed to make the UI in general look particularly good is that correct? I realize it seems dumb but the only thing that looks a bit better than my old nexus is watching certain movies. The vibrant has a great processor and a super amoled. Can anyone explain some of the practical benefits of the vibrants hardware?
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samoled is better than the iphone 4's retina display. its about the screen technology. its colors and the way it looks in direct sunlight,looks better than the n1 & i4. although the i4 has a higher res doesnt eqaute to a better screen. vibrant has a better gpu than the i4 and better than any android out. the hardware on the vibrant is ahead of its time. 45n processor, 90million triangles per second by the gpu. all in all retina display focuses on pixels, while super amoled focuses on color and qaulity. vibrant and the galaxy s line are the best phones out hardware wise. not software wise. and by that i mean touchwiz and that rfs system.
I haven't been able to find any hardware specs...is the SAMOLED capable of higher resolution?
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I haven't been able to find any hardware specs...is the SAMOLED capable of higher resolution?
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/facepalm
http://www.google.com/m?gl=us&sourc...moled&ei=je3WTLDFN5yoqAPPxc5y&ved=0CEEQ1QIoBw
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Lol
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blasian shadows said:
samoled is better than the iphone 4's retina display. its about the screen technology. its colors and the way it looks in direct sunlight,looks better than the n1 & i4. although the i4 has a higher res doesnt eqaute to a better screen. vibrant has a better gpu than the i4 and better than any android out. the hardware on the vibrant is ahead of its time. 45n processor, 90million triangles per second by the gpu. all in all retina display focuses on pixels, while super amoled focuses on color and qaulity. vibrant and the galaxy s line are the best phones out hardware wise. not software wise. and by that i mean touchwiz and that rfs system.
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Thanks, it a shame the pixels are so noticeable and blurry. This phones got hardware that could've kept me happy for at least a couple years. I watch a decent amount of media so I appreciate that aspect of the hardware. But even more I'm using the UI and the browesr and constantly seeing my wife's I4 really makes the fuzziness of the vibrant stand out. Samsung has media well in hand but everything revolves around the UI so persoanlly I'm impatiently waiting for a crisp I4-like UI. I would imagine higher Res is on deck, 800x480 has been done to death. I'm glad the iPhone exists be wise the competition benefits us, I just hate this period of waiting to catch up with what I consider a major portion of the OS. Especially since I use my wife's phone so often (T-Mobile doesn't work in many places like att does) its tough going from the iPhones perfect lines to my jagged blurry ones. But like I've read other people here explain., I'd have no idea how bad 800x480 is if I hadn't seen the 960x640 retina display. So really its my wife's fault : )
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Thanks, it a shame the pixels are so noticeable and blurry. This phones got hardware that could've kept me happy for at least a couple years. I watch a decent amount of media so I appreciate that aspect of the hardware. But even more I'm using the UI and the browesr and constantly seeing my wife's I4 really makes the fuzziness of the vibrant stand out. Samsung has media well in hand but everything revolves around the UI so persoanlly I'm impatiently waiting for a crisp I4-like UI. I would imagine higher Res is on deck, 800x480 has been done to death. I'm glad the iPhone exists be wise the competition benefits us, I just hate this period of waiting to catch up with what I consider a major portion of the OS. Especially since I use my wife's phone so often (T-Mobile doesn't work in many places like att does) its tough going from the iPhones perfect lines to my jagged blurry ones. But like I've read other people here explain., I'd have no idea how bad 800x480 is if I hadn't seen the 960x640 retina display. So really its my wife's fault : )
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There are LCD density "fixes" if you're fixated on the resolution...
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samoled is an interesting tradeoff. for people that really like video and media, the sgs line is spectacular.
no offense to the guy that says, "samoled is better than retina" but... really? its glaringly obvious that text is blurry/less crisp on amoled and samoled displays. most people might not see this, but for those of us with good eyes it sticks out like a sore thumb.
the display on the motorola droid, iphone 4 and the new slcd's from htc are a lot more readable. sure, you dont have the fake ass super contrast that samsung is giving you, but its MUCH crisper. there is a superb article on arstechnica that points out the flaws of amoled displays.
all that said, i don't mind samoled on my samsung focus. i just don't go out and bash the iphone because it makes me feel better about my purchase. the display apple put on the iphone is an industry marvel, and if it was on an android phone everyone would be talking **** on apple instead of downplaying it. its so tiring reading these weak ass posts. have a good day
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if we get androids gingerbread this is what i heard.
"New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher".
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if we get androids gingerbread this is what i heard.
"New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher".
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our device isn't capable of that resolution. that would be for newer phones lol.
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our device isn't capable of that resolution. that would be for newer phones lol.
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oh ok thats just what i heard. hopefully we can get froyo soon or they should jump to the gingerbread update and skip froyo lol. just coming from the mytouch 4g with 2.2 froyo big difference for me from this 2.1 and the lag on this phone is a joke. but i did use the lag fix which helped a bit.

Iphone 4 highest resolution screen ever?

Has anyone else seen the iphone 4 commercial saying the screen is the highest resolution screen ever on a phone?
I thought the vibrant had a better screen? It definitely looks better than the iphone four though.
The iPhone 4 does have the highest resolution ever. Samsung claims that the SAMOLED screens have better viewing angles and all that ****. Its really just what u think overall I guess.
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The pixels and the screen size on the iphone 4 have a better looking screen while the vibrant has a bigger screen but lesser pixels so yeah the iphone 4 screen is better but iOS sucks =]
the iPhone 4 has a 3.5 inch LCD screen has a resolution of 960 x 640
the vibrant has a 4 inch S-AMOLED screen that has a resolution of 800 x 480
the S-AMOLED screen displays colors clearer and truer and is easier to see in the sun, the iPhone 4 has an insane pixel density that makes things look cleaner
its a matter of preference really once you let an iPhone 4 owner watch Avatar on your vibrant they will be extremely jealous
That's pretty surprising.
The kid with the iphone 4 finally got pissed at me and quoted the commercial lmao.
But I still think the vibrant looks cleaner plus bigger screen=better.
We compared angry birds visuals on lowest brightness. I won
xSunny said:
The pixels and the screen size on the iphone 4 have a better looking screen while the vibrant has a bigger screen but lesser pixels so yeah the iphone 4 screen is better but iOS sucks =]
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"Better looking screen"?! Are you for real?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?deskto...e.com/watch?v=xiO3s8NdQ34&v=xiO3s8NdQ34&gl=US
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ive compared the I4 and Vibrant tirelessly after seeing my friends I4. I was blown away and confused by how good the I4 OS looks, its pretty shocking because there is nothing else like it, at least in the domestic mobile device arena. I was actually pissed off that my vibrant looked so much fuzzier, i almost stopped using it and just pulled out my old nexus I was so bummed.
But after I looked into it further it became clear that the I4's visual advantage is limited to the OS, which is definitely important but it doesnt include media, so the Vibrant's samoled does have an advantage in that department. Also, I think the I4 is much easier to see in daylight, the Vibrant is somewhat better than than the Nexus, which is virtually invisible under the sun, but the Vibrant is still no treat to use outside.
The I4 is far and away better looking as far as the operating system which basically includes all lines; apps and their icons, text, the browser, you cant see pixels, its not even close. Also, the old and new Iphones alike scroll without blurring like Android does (I believe its because of GPU acceleration which, if Im not mistaken, Android will add with Gingerbread?), it keeps its resolution while scrolling which makes a big difference visually, particularly in the browser. With Android phones, once you are pressing the screen to scroll in the browser, you can see a huge difference between pressing and not pressing, as soon as you let up the screen goes back to its optimal quality. But the Vibrant absolutely looks better with all media.
I4 has more pixels on a smaller screen with crazy pixel density, so that part really cant be personal preference, unless you prefer fuzzier lines/text. But it is relative, if the I4 didnt exist I would be wild for the Vibrants screen in media and the OS alike. But the I4 obviously has a better look in the OS alone, but not media.
tonomon said:
That's pretty surprising.
The kid with the iphone 4 finally got pissed at me and quoted the commercial lmao.
But I still think the vibrant looks cleaner plus bigger screen=better.
We compared angry birds visuals on lowest brightness. I won
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Comparing Angry Birds is a bad comparison - the iPhone version is not optimized for the iPhone4 display, I don't think. It's a lower resolution than the Android version.
Retina display has higher pixel density, and you have to try real hard to distinguish between the pixels, however if you put two screens together and just look at them without digging your nose into your phone you can hardly see that SAMOLED is a bit washed out compared to the Retina, but once you fire up a high quality video SAMOLED will take it any day due to its brightness and dynamic contrast. I do think colors on Sammy are over saturated like with almost all of their LCD/LED panels.
tehmanmuffin said:
the iPhone 4 has a 3.5 inch LCD screen has a resolution of 960 x 640
the vibrant has a 4 inch S-AMOLED screen that has a resolution of 800 x 480
the S-AMOLED screen displays colors clearer and truer and is easier to see in the sun, the iPhone 4 has an insane pixel density that makes things look cleaner
its a matter of preference really once you let an iPhone 4 owner watch Avatar on your vibrant they will be extremely jealous
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very true, my iphone 4 friends are jealous of my screen
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yeah the iphone 4 have a better screen when we are talking about pixels but when it comes to watching video files, there's no way any other phone will beat our super duper amoled screen.
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ive compared the I4 and Vibrant tirelessly after seeing my friends I4. I was blown away and confused by how good the I4 OS looks, its pretty shocking because there is nothing else like it, at least in the domestic mobile device arena. I was actually pissed off that my vibrant looked so much fuzzier, i almost stopped using it and just pulled out my old nexus I was so bummed.
But after I looked into it further it became clear that the I4's visual advantage is limited to the OS, which is definitely important but it doesnt include media, so the Vibrant's samoled does have an advantage in that department. Also, I think the I4 is much easier to see in daylight, the Vibrant is somewhat better than than the Nexus, which is virtually invisible under the sun, but the Vibrant is still no treat to use outside.
The I4 is far and away better looking as far as the operating system which basically includes all lines; apps and their icons, text, the browser, you cant see pixels, its not even close. Also, the old and new Iphones alike scroll without blurring like Android does (I believe its because of GPU acceleration which, if Im not mistaken, Android will add with Gingerbread?), it keeps its resolution while scrolling which makes a big difference visually, particularly in the browser. With Android phones, once you are pressing the screen to scroll in the browser, you can see a huge difference between pressing and not pressing, as soon as you let up the screen goes back to its optimal quality. But the Vibrant absolutely looks better with all media.
I4 has more pixels on a smaller screen with crazy pixel density, so that part really cant be personal preference, unless you prefer fuzzier lines/text. But it is relative, if the I4 didnt exist I would be wild for the Vibrants screen in media and the OS alike. But the I4 obviously has a better look in the OS alone, but not media.
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What are you talking about, I've used my phone in direct sunlight in the middle of the day and the screen is easily readable with MINIMUM brightness, unless your screen is dirty and is being extra reflective because of it, this screen works amazing in the sun, on full its clear even with glare
Also, my vibrant's browser does not blur, I just tested it for a goods few mins and no bluring at all
And lastly on discussion, the i4's screen resolution + the smaller size of the screen kinda makes you think its sharper but its a smaller screen...does a higher resolution help it at all? Do you see any distinguishable difference from a lower res screen?
The only advantage i4 has is how dim and how bright the display can get because its an lcd however super amoled wins overall
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Doesn't super-Amoled give a blueish tint on whites? on my i4 the browser sucks, it gives pattern checker board things when scrolling super fast, and on android i never got this.
IMHO overall the S-amoled is better, the colors are more vivid but it's funny how the maker of both displays is Samsung
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IMHO overall the S-amoled is better, the colors are more vivid but it's funny how the maker of both displays is Samsung
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Lol then samsung wins
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kanwal236 said:
What are you talking about, I've used my phone in direct sunlight in the middle of the day and the screen is easily readable with MINIMUM brightness, unless your screen is dirty and is being extra reflective because of it, this screen works amazing in the sun, on full its clear even with glare
Also, my vibrant's browser does not blur, I just tested it for a goods few mins and no bluring at all
And lastly on discussion, the i4's screen resolution + the smaller size of the screen kinda makes you think its sharper but its a smaller screen...does a higher resolution help it at all? Do you see any distinguishable difference from a lower res screen?
The only advantage i4 has is how dim and how bright the display can get because its an lcd however super amoled wins overall
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I've had the blurry browser srolling on all my Google phones. Its more noticeable if you've used an iPhone for a while then used a Google phone for a while. Just go to this forum, and look at the arrows pointing right and the icons especially the envelopes to the left of the thread titles. Now slowly scroll, you'll notice the envelopes almost blinking, and the lines become jagged off and on. So when you scroll normally theres a subtle choppiness. But really its only annoying because iPhones don't do it they are smooth, I thinking its the gpu acceleration which we should have shortly. Android hadn't said why they have put off gpu acc so long. Or maqybe they have but I don't know about it. As far as sunlight it could he better but coming from a nexus I would say the vibrant is indeed a treat
I hope this isn't too off topic. I've over clocked and lag fixed my vibrant, I'm trying to show up this guy at my job that has iphone4 how do you run a benchmark test on iphone so we can compare? I'm at 1700 benchmark right now
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I hope this isn't too off topic. I've over clocked and lag fixed my vibrant, I'm trying to show up this guy at my job that has iphone4 how do you run a benchmark test on iphone so we can compare? I'm at 1700 benchmark right now
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There's linpack for iPhone, but it isn't made by the same company, so I am not sure how *valid* the comparison would be. There isn't really any universal benchmarking tools that exists on both platforms. So you are SOL at the moment.
Dunno why this turned into a iphone vs galaxy s post but here is a link for an unbiased view on both of these phones screens (scroll to bottom);
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9000_galaxy_s_vs_apple_iphone_4-review-500p3.php
Most people won't be able to tell the difference in my opinion. Now if you are blowing up pics and text you will probably will see the difference. The super amoled blew me away the first time I saw avatar on it, Iphone can't do that.

HTC Rezound vs Droid Razr (video)

It is quite a good comparison...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU4V7kLV7hc&feature=relmfu
Thank you,
it's not really about the benchmarks for me, but I'm happy to see that the RAM is very fast.
The thing that really comes to my mind when seeing this comparison is "Damn, the Rezound's screen is bad! Poor colour, poor contrast, grey blacks."
The LCD will never look as good as an AMOLED when viewed on an angle. Also the screen resolution differences will throw the benchmarks off. Best evaluation is in hand based off your personal needs and feel.
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This really does showcase how much nicer the RAZR's screen is than the Rezound's; resolution be damned. Also, it's good that benchmarks are affected by resolution because the device will reflect that in actual usage. Not that the current benchmarks are all that great, but making a test resolution agnostic isn't very realistic.
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Thank you,
it's not really about the benchmarks for me, but I'm happy to see that the RAM is very fast.
The thing that really comes to my mind when seeing this comparison is "Damn, the Rezound's screen is bad! Poor colour, poor contrast, grey blacks."
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You are welcome. The RAM and the screen was the main reason I posted this. The RAZR's screen is definitely better.
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The LCD will never look as good as an AMOLED when viewed on an angle. Also the screen resolution differences will throw the benchmarks off. Best evaluation is in hand based off your personal needs and feel.
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Agree. I too have an LCD and believe me, placing an AMOLED next to it just kills it.
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This really does showcase how much nicer the RAZR's screen is than the Rezound's; resolution be damned. Also, it's good that benchmarks are affected by resolution because the device will reflect that in actual usage. Not that the current benchmarks are all that great, but making a test resolution agnostic isn't very realistic.
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I agree. The Razr's screen is WAAAAYY superior to the Rezound. To be honest, my only fear was the Rezound's resolution. I was worried that it will give the Razr a run for its money. Am happy to see, its nowhere close...
It does appear the display res is hurting Rezound performance. I tested the utter heck out of both devices, before choosing the Razr.
I like playing game emulators and the Razr has far better touch response and plays games faster than the Rezound. No comparison with N64 and PSX for performance and all emulators are rough with touch response on the Rezound.
Display res matters big on emulators. That is why they play faster when you play them in their smaller native windows. Less pixels to push.
Added: The real odd thing is the Flyer is the single core version of same chip, but also plays games far better. Performance and touch response.
Probably to do with the Rezounds pixel density.

RAZR vs Galaxy Nexus

I know, there are a lot of threads about that and I read them! They are all outdated, they were written when razr had GB and nexus was on ICS.
What about now? RAZR has ICS and Nexus has JB.
I may have the opportunity to sell my RAZR (it has scratches, I hate my dog -.-" ) for 300€ and buy a new Nexus for the same price.
Do you think this is a good idea?
I'd say yes. The nexus screen looks much crisper and better, especially white text and things like that. Also for me the big selling point of the razr was the 8mp camera, but I find the Nexus takes better pics, mostly because I find the razr to have dull colors in the pics
Thanks! Someone else?
Depends on what matters to you…
The razr is a great phone, best radio, best sound quality, bright display, nearly indestructible and completely reliable. Sports a nice set of helpful extra functionality. Display is lower resolution and pentile, thus not as crisp as the nexus, still consider it much better (see below).
The nexus has the latest android version, and is open to custom roms. The display is higher resolution, but very dim, awful at low brightness (smudgy), and colours are completely off (yellow tint and gamma is a mess). The latter can be corrected to some degree with custom kernels. No SD card and only mtp. Battery life is short, but can be remedied by swapping batteries. Build quality is ok, but nowhere compared to the razr.
To put it simple, for me the razr is a great tool, the nexus a fun toy.
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Actually just received a Galaxy Nexus myself yesterday, and thus far, I pretty much agree with both of the above posts. Build quality-wise, the RAZR feels more solid, obviously much slimmer in the hand, and is lighter than the Nexus without feeling cheap. However I am surprised by the Nexus' build quality, it's not anywhere near as plasticky feeling as some previous Samsung phone's I've felt...there's no hollow creakiness to it when you hold it and it feels hefty. The only disappointment comes when you pry off the battery cover...it's one incredibly cheap cover.
The RAZR has considerably better sound quality, the speaker is much louder...in fact I believe the RAZR has one of the loudest loudspeakers period out of any phone out there. The Nexus on the other hand is much, much quieter...I'd say too quiet for the most part. I use speakerphone mode a lot for calls so this matters to me and is almost a deal breaker on the Nexus.
The Nexus does have a sharper screen, but I find the RAZR's screen gives more of that eye popping and color saturated AMOLED look, which you either love or hate. I find both screens are horrible at rendering white, and both look very yellowish if you use Auto-brightness. I thought the Nexus' 720 display sharpness would be night and day different to my eyes, but it's really not in day to day usage. More and more though I'm starting to realize I don't much care for AMOLED screens and would probably want a regular LCD for my next phone, the whites bother me quite a bit and I do get bothered by the heavy blue or green tint they pick up as you view the screen at off angles.
I haven't taken pics yet with the Nexus, but just from what I saw in the camera app, the camera seems to be much better at auto-focusing. I find the RAZR's focusing to be difficult to work with, and the picture quality is not that great.
Jelly Bean is indeed more fluid and smooth, but you'll still run into the occasional stutter here and there. More annoyingly is I'm already running into apps that won't work right on it. So expect to go through your usual headache period of apps not working, until developers catch up to updating their apps for Jelly Bean.
On the development front, there's a tremendous difference, the Nexus is indeed a developer's phone and it shows in its developer forum. I'm amazed at just how comprehensive the Nexus toolkit is that lets you bust open the phone effortlessly compared to any other phone...totally an all in one stop for rooting, bootloader unlocking, custom recovery, etc. The amount of available ROMs is also insane and make's the RAZR's totally a laughable joke in this regard.
In the end I'd agree with the sentiment that the RAZR makes a better day to day phone, while the Nexus makes for a better side toy to mess around with and install new stuff on.
Hey guys. Sorry for the hijack. This is really interesting as I am thinking of a gnex myself. Or a sgs3 if i can afford it.
Thanks for the thoughts.
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I've reconsidered! I'll keep my razr. It's a great phone after all and jelly bean is not enough to justify the change. Thanks to all of you!

My review compared to the gs3

Just a few comparisons of the dna vs gs3 since I have both.
Screen...Dna not as colorful, but probably more realistic. It also has crisper text. I thought it would be a drastic difference, but to my disapointment its not.
Camera...Outdoors both are comparable, cant tell the difference. Indoors is another story. DNA is not very good. Another disapointment.
Build quality...While I have no complaints against the GS3, the DNA is much better.
Signal....DNA is better.
Battery...DNA is about the same as GS3.
UI...Im suprised here, but I like TW better.
So, both are great phones, but im not sure if I will keep the DNA.If you have the gs3...I dont think its an upgrade. Im thinking of exchanging it for the Note 2.
I'm in the same boat. I had the S3 and gave it to the Spouse to get this.....but I'm not impressed with the camera. I use my camera daily as a P&S so I don't have to take a dedicated camera with me....so yeah-I buy Smartphones with the camera in mind. The pics from my S3 just seemed sharper and had better color reproduction. The only thing I can honestly say about the DNA....the build quality rocks on this thing and the screen is beautiful. I'm going to "try" and love this thing, but if I can't get over my hangups with it, I'm returning it, the wireless charging pad, and getting the Note2 on the 29th, which falls well within the 14 day exchange window. It's just personal preference....what works for you, may not work for me, and vice-versa.
I also like the DNA, but I really don't want to go back to Sense and the phone is a bit too big for my taste.
Thinking of checking out the GN2 when it comes out (I know it's even bigger) and getting it or the Razr HD. I don't use the camera much, so not too worried about it on the Razr.
Also, the specs on the HD are weak, but I am not sure how much that matters on terms of actual performance.
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