This is the stock battery, EP500 Li-Polymer 1200mAh
Code:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overview/ep500
No memory effect, can charge anytime, full charge obtained on around 3 hours via PC USB port.
Compatibility : Vivaz, Vivaz pro, Xperia mini/pro, Xperia X8
This is the best choice I can find on an alternative battery, claimed to be 2430mAh.
Code:
http://cgi.ebay.com/130561150352
Double the capacity, which I believe should at least provide more juice. Planning to buy, but I suppose since most phones we have are new, we better see what the fully optimal EP500 can do first.
Any other choice and experiences, let us know.
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UPDATE : Based on feedbacks of that battery brand, its highly possible that higher capacity battery is not really accurate. There is no direct feedback on the EP500 replica model though, that remains to be found out. In my opinion, for best case, its high chance its just like the stock battery performance.
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For my personal use, I bought an Energizer AP650.
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Energizer AP650MC Output : DC5V--700mA
On AP650 fully charged (charging LED off) plugged on an off SK17i (died to lack of batt), it will take around 25 mins to drain the AP650 into the SK17i while its turned on, standby idle.
SK17i was able to get 28% charge. From this data, I can say the AP650 can charge the SK17i at the rate of 1% per minute for max of 28 minutes. This means the whole charge of the AP650 can bump the standby (idle) time for at least 12 hours.
I will add more data when I find something of value. Will take actual picture with the phone also.
update: i changed phone already, went back to xperia arc but still sometimes use the energizer.
the alternative battery, is it still have same size with the stock battery ?
from the picture it looks like the same size, else they should provide a new back cover.
Mugenpowerbattery
As it is the same battery like in the SE x8, i suggest to try out this one from Mugenpower:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...nded-battery-for-sony-ericsson-xperia-x8.html
But you only gain +100 mah.
I tried a battery from Mugenpower on my older phone and the quality is good.
But for that price I don't think I am going to buy this one only to gain a little bit more power.
That is a little steep for me. In the 20 range is find but in the 40's for 100 mah more just won't do.
I was looking also on ebay at the 2000 something mah but could you really fit that power capacity in same size battery? Please post any feeds if tested
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so.. anyone has tried it ?
i'm really interested on 2430mAh
i hope the written specs will not lie
Once I begin to feel the itch for the need of longer life I will buy that. But so far for now, I still need to get the feel of the stock batt so we'll have better comparison when time comes. Unless someone here really buys ahead :$
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Packing almost more than the double mAh in the same size seems pretty unrealistic. I think its fake.
I mostly fear that it could damage my phone. Have read that cheap batteries can explode or damage the phone and I have this phone only for a week now and would like to keep it though.
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I had the same thoughts and reservations. But not really to the point that it damages and explodes. Its the authenticity of the claimed capacity is the question.
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I had the same thoughts and reservations. But not really to the point that it damages and explodes. Its the authenticity of the claimed capacity is the question.
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i agree, you would be shooting in the dark when purchasing this but someone could make the 1st step.
we can see if our battery performance increase over time or i propose donating to the cause, to a credible member and buy one to test it out. just a thought
I'm willing to buy, try and inform you all. Let me settle with the stock batt first if I would need higher capacity, unless someone here buys before me. I would think the capacity may not be necessarily true, but since its double capacity then perhaps we get at least 50% of what it offers right (ie. 25% more juice) compared to stock battery in its worst case, and in that case even it may be acceptable for the price point?
my feel : it seems after some days of getting the hang of the phone battery life, it looks like if doing nothing with the phone at all sit it standby, it easily reaches 2 days of life and can even go for a few hours more but i doubt it will reach 3 days. however, once normally using the phone like browsing wifi, tinkering, etc. it definitely can only max out in less than 2 days. if doing more browsing and use calls, 3G, in one day or less it likely will finish the charge. if straight wifi internet browsing, i doubt this will reach 7 hours max.
perhaps need more cycle charging as phone barely a week old. any other experiences?
Hello guys, i asked mugenpower if they would make a higher capacity battery for the Xperia Mini Pro.
They said that there wont be a battery for the Xperia Mini Pro in the near Future and we have to Stick with the 1300 mAh they are offering for the x8.
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From my latest feel on the stock battery, upon regular use it will only really last 2 days tops. If used a bit more say browsing over wifi, video watching, calling, browsing over 3G, then it would only last like only ~42 hours.
However, I am thinking about an another alternative to the higher capacity battery in question on the first post, yes it is cheap but it is highly likely that it is an impossibility to fit into the size even 50% additional more power into the battery of the same size. Therefore high chance it is fake.
The other alternative I think is just get usual USB portable chargers, the likes of Energizer XPAL. I also noticed the phone charges really fast (ie. 2+ hrs) due to the small battery, so perhaps useful to have it charge even in your bag while commuting hmm?
The phone is compact enough, so bringing an an additional power which can also serve the purpose for other gadgets as well may be an option.
What do you think?
I personally would use the portable charger. I've had horrible experiences with fake batteries, most of the time they don't even last half as long as the OEMs.
Stop, don't buy the 'gold' battery from that seller!
The capacities are fake, I got ripped off myself, the batteries are just normal capacity clones. Look carefully at the negative feedback.
Thanks paul-home. Yes I thoroughly read the feedbacks but the reason I posted that item cos its the only higher capacity batt available. I will edit the 1st post to put a disclaimer.
Anyway, what I am trying to do is just maximize the stock batt, I noticed it lasted really longer when I let it sit on the charger even if it is 100%. The battery status stays at 100% for 6 hours when left on standby. In any case, I am firming my investigation and will recalibrate the battery stats on phone and see how it really goes.
Added data about the Energizer AP650 extended microUSB portable charger on the first post.
Too bad it is fake.
I could use more juice cause i have the wi-fi turned on 24/7.
Would be cool if they made a higher capacity that has the battery and back cover all in one
Like this
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites...b_550_htc-thundertbolt-extended-battery-1.JPG
For the mini pro.
It would also make the phone even thicker
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I really like the battery for this. Charges up really quick and lasts (for me) the full day. I think a better alternative to buying a higher-capacity battery would be to just buy a second official battery and keep it in your watch pocket (the little pocket on the front-right of your jeans) in case of emergencies.
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Yes, SGS3 battery is bigger, but the screen is bigger two, 4 cores of CPU and a more power hungry GPU, then Smart Stay eye tracking will be using front camera, that should drain battery as well...
So bigger battery could serve the extra changes from SGS2 and SGS3 would probably stay out of wires or induction charging for the same time as SGS2?
What do you say?
MicroSIM - does it use less power than SIM?
Its actually kinda useless when it comes to discussion like this as no one has the phone in their hands yet. Filling the pages with speculation and assumption will simply set a good/bad reputation to the mobile itself.
Id like to see this thread come alive after the release
cheers
i was getting 30-40 hours out of my gs2 running stock at&t. i would think the gs3 would do the same even with the added goodness. but even with the induction charging... i would imagine we will still need an extra battery or wired charger plugged in. there will always be times when the battery gets low and have to be charged while using it.
The photo I've seen looks like a mini sim, not micro sim.
No idea how the battery would be but the Samsung HK-MG 32nm process looks very promising, based on it's implementation in the iPad2,4 revision. More info:
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s3-secrets-revealed.html
Don't think the "camera tracking" will take up much power either, they could probably just make due with a snapshot every 5 minutes(or when it would normally go into standby) or so and do facial recognition.
I was hoping for a battery close to the RAZR MAXX
Now that the battery is 2100, then i'm hoping that users will be able to control all new features. By that i mean turn them on and off. I really don't care for the many new features that Samsung has come up with. If it was possible I would replace Samsung's modified Android version with a Out of the box version like on Galaxy Nexus. Personally i was hoping that Motorola soon would come out with a new Quad Core phone with their 3300 battery.
Currently the one S with a 2x battery ap holds a decent amount battery battery with smart use of connection and other features by default, so I would have thought that it would work nicely on the bigger sg3. However I'm planning to have a 2nd battery handy and not worry about running out at any point.
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I'm hoping for an extended battery that adds a little to the phone. Maybe a 2750 or even 3300. Also to the gut who said Motorola one with quad. Don't, Motorola is terrible with their lies about bootloaders abd updating.
Samsung does a pretty good job at power management, I think battery life will be good especially with that 2100 Mah battery and the fact that the SoC is based on 32nm so less power used. We should be able to get a full day pretty easily.
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I'm hoping for an extended battery that adds a little to the phone. Maybe a 2750 or even 3300.
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It could be a problem with batteries made by 3rd parties, as the original SGS3 battery has NFC antenna inside
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I have VERY BAD fealings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfoKoDYD7c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review: Battery life goes from 92% to 84%...
That means quite nothing (We don't know what they do in cutted frames)... but in my mind I am quite sure that battery life will be even shorter than my LG Optimus 2x (16h with push notific and so on..)
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I have VERY BAD fealings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfoKoDYD7c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Look at that review: Battery life goes from 92% to 84%...
That means quite nothing (We don't know what they do in cutted frames)... but in my mind I am quite sure that battery life will be even shorter than my LG Optimus 2x (16h with push notific and so on..)
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It's over a period of 30 minutes, which seems to suggest an approximate battery lifetime of around 5-6 hours with the display on.
This is not really a bad thing but simply due to powering such a large display, but really most phones seem to get around 5-7 hours these days.
The Galaxy Nexus have the same "problem", but as I recall the Nexus also had some of the best idle/no display battery lifetime i.e. Only taxing antennas and processors.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review/14
See the battery lifetime for the gsm version during talk or hotspot sharing the Nexus easily have some of the best performance there.
FISKER_Q said:
It's over a period of 30 minutes, which seems to suggest an approximate battery lifetime of around 5-6 hours with the display on.
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Well I have not looked at the time on display but: Yes, I say that video proves nothing, too.
But, You know, it is the same old story: "nothing special" battery life.
Marketing, specs (Batt. 2100mAh, CPU (32nm, 4 core))..
At the end of the day: Nothing special.
This is the frustrating thing..
DJ Palmis said:
Well I have not looked at the time on display but: Yes, I say that video proves nothing, too.
But, You know, it is the same old story: "nothing special" battery life.
Marketing, specs (Batt. 2100mAh, CPU (32nm, 4 core))..
At the end of the day: Nothing special.
This is the frustrating thing..
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in Moscow there is some mobile analytic(Eldar Murtazin). He using engineering sample of SGS3 for 2 or 3 month. And he noticed, that the battery enough for 10-12 hours of active use, when compared with SGS2 - 5-6 hours, his words
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Much work has been done in terms of energy efficiency, battery 2100 mAh, and the device works like my day with a fairly thick load. What will happen in the commercial samples, I can not judge, more importantly, that time has grown and it is noticeable to the eye. On the other hand, to take advantage of this, it is necessary to disable all of the additional and not very necessary function. They are in the unit, in the opinion of the average user, it became much more.
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http://mobile-review.com/articles/2012/samsung-galaxy-s3.shtml
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On the other hand, to take advantage of this, it is necessary to disable all of the additional and not very necessary function.
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First of all: thank you very much for this news!
As I said: The same old story!
I like to be able to choose whether or not activate a function.. BUT WHY Samsung put it there?
Marketing!
Even a child would understand that a camera that follows your eyes constantly consumes battery!
Like voice recognition that is only useful to make the bully with friends at the bar.
If it makes you all feel any better I had the one x and even with the retail firmware 1.26 I was getting 12-16 hours with 2-3 hours screen on time with a crap 2g signal using internet regular and with really light use well over a day that was 1800mah battery
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leith51 said:
If it makes you all feel any better I had the one x and even with the retail firmware 1.26 I was getting 12-16 hours with 2-3 hours screen on time with a crap 2g signal using internet regular and with really light use well over a day that was 1800mah battery
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http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p8.php
rtimoff said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p8.php
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Wots the point ??? I gave you real life usage figures from the one x!!
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leith51 said:
Wots the point ??? I gave you real life usage figures from the one x!!
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The point is in that a sgs3 has better battery stats compared to htc 1x. That's all.
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Hey guys,
Some of you might've seen this on the N7000 threads,
This is to confirm that the same battery is sold to Canada on Ebay, and it works pretty well on the i717.
The battery is called the "3030mAH High Capacity Gold Battery"
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I do not have the test results yet from Battery Monitor Widget, because I don't really know how to do a full MAh test. Maybe someone can enlighten me on this.
Through everyday use however, it does seem to give me an extra 10-15% on the battery (which is around one hour for me).
For those who are interested, order it from this Ebayer:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270942481442?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Ps. The Charger is SLOW though, I usually use it on the other batteries overnight.
Have you had a chance to get numbers from battery widget?
Jamie
I get about 4.5 to 5 hours screen time consistenly with this. The stock gave me about 3.5 to 4 hours.
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supac said:
I get about 4.5 to 5 hours screen time consistenly with this. The stock gave me about 3.5 to 4 hours.
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Any screen shots?
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I have this one and t he 3080 one. Both work ok- not much more lasting than stock. I get 35% by end of the day remaining with moderate use, push email, 10 widgets, and 14 alarms.
I have the 3000mah version from these guys and these are just 2500mah batteries repackaged. I thought that I was getting more battery life too at first, that's mostly because you are trying to justify the purchase subconsciously, but they aren't any bigger and are actually lighter than the stock battery
They do seem like good quality batteries, just not any longer lasting than stock unfortunately.
If it were possible to get a longer lasting battery in this phone that was the same size as the 2500mah one you can be assured Samsung would be selling it as an accessory for $50, people would gladly pay for it... Samsung wouldn't miss out on making extra money on accessories...
omniphil said:
I have the 3000mah version from these guys and these are just 2500mah batteries repackaged. I thought that I was getting more battery life too at first, that's mostly because you are trying to justify the purchase subconsciously, but they aren't any bigger and are actually lighter than the stock battery
They do seem like good quality batteries, just not any longer lasting than stock unfortunately.
If it were possible to get a longer lasting battery in this phone that was the same size as the 2500mah one you can be assured Samsung would be selling it as an accessory for $50, people would gladly pay for it... Samsung wouldn't miss out on making extra money on accessories...
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Actually the one i got is the 3000maharaja version. I will post times at the end of today.
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supac said:
Actually the one i got is the 3000maharaja version. I will post times at the end of today.
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If it truly is a larger battery then it should take at least 30 minutes longer (using the 1 amp wall charger) to charge from dead to full.... But I found that my charge times didn't change any appreciable amount, so the capacity isn't any different...
Here is some times taken when i first received the battery.
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try to peel the sticker and you will see what inside.
pkmoazzam said:
try to peel the sticker and you will see what inside.
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I don't know of this 3000 mAH battery that you are talking about, but I peeled the covering sticker from the Gold battery in the OP, and it doesn't have any markings indicating the capacity.
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Have you had a chance to get numbers from battery widget?
Jamie
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No not yet, haven't found the procedure to measure actual mAH in the battery yet. I have tried charging to 100% and draining it to 1%, but it doesn't show the information automatically.
so its not really 3030mah ?????????? thats been proven?
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so its not really 3030mah ?????????? thats been proven?
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It doesn't take any longer to charge from empty than the stock battery does, so Its not any larger. My charge times were within 10 minutes of each other when comparing to stock.
Ebay batteries that are the exact same dimensions as stock but claim to deliver more capacity than the stock battery are pretty much always lying about capacity. Its all marketing. If the battery was heavier than stock I might say it could deliver more capacity, but they are usually lighter.
There is an app on the market called battery drain...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...fender&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Be careful using this, it will drain the battery VERY fast, potentially heating up the battery to beyond safe temparatures. DONT SELECT EVERY OPTION!!!
Here are the options you can select to have it do all at once.
-Turns on Permanent Vibration
-Enables Wifi Send Data
-Constantly Max Loads CPU
-Sets Screen Brightness to Maximum
-Enables GPS Location Services and Constantly asks Device to Refresh Position
-Turns on Camera Flash
-Turns on Bluetooth and Constantly Scans for New Devices
I would also grab battery monitor widget pro by 3C (the paid version is $4) or another battery app that has detailed logging.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ult#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNjYzcxLmJtdy5wcm8iXQ..
Consistency is the key, what I would do is power down the phone and let the battery completely charge (use the volume rockers to turn the screen occasionally to see the battery charge level, its fully charged when there is a 100% shown inside the green battery).
Set the battery logging app and the battery drain apps either on the lockscreen if you have something like widget locker or set them on the first homescreen that appears on an initial boot so you can access them quickly.
Then unplug the phone, note the current time (open the clock on your PC for seconds), power the phone up, wait a set amount of time (say 1 minute from when you initially turn the phone on) and launch the battery drain app, turn on maybe 4-5 of the options (dont use all of them, you dont want to damage the battery), say max screen brightness, camera flash, wifi, bluetooth, & GPS and wait til the battery dies and note the time when it dies (shouldnt take more than 1 hour).
You can test each battery this way (make sure you pick the same options in the battery drain app) and if you have an app doing battery logging, you can pull up the stats after the phone dies and you plug in the charger to reboot it.
Its also key that nothing changes (dont install any new apps or remove any apps) between testing. What most testers do is factory reset the phone, leave all the settings at stock and install only the apps they need for testing. This might be a bit extreme, the key tho is to have consistency.
Using both batteries and testing them in this fashion would give more information rather than anecdotal. However, I can understand that it is a time consuming process.
supac said:
Actually the one i got is the 3000maharaja version. I will post times at the end of today.
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Do you have a link for this version?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1565122
I already did a review on this battery.
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I've switched to the M4 from the Moto E 2015. Both phones are set up just about the same.
The E had amazing battery life, easily going 2 days between charges. When not in active use it barely used any power, and even during use it was pretty efficient.
The M4 is also very good at staying asleep when the screen is off.
However, during even the lightest active use, such as Web browsing, even with screen brightness turned way down, the thing just gulps the battery down. Every 2-3 minutes it goes down 1%.
Are you having this experience too?
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On WiFi I once got 5 hour screen on time. Not sure how. I used it to browse Web and do other basic stuff like YouTube.Likely depends how demanding the task is.
On Lte/Data battery drains way faster.
Yes, this has been a major concern for me. I hate the battery of this phone.
I went from the M2 to the M4. The battery was waaaaaaaay better on the M2. If the M2 had about 7% battery going to bed, my alarm would DEFINITELY go off the next morning, and I would have 5-6%. It was great, so reliable. I charged it around every 2 days. I used it for all normal functions including web browsing, music playing, emails, messaging etc.
If my M4 has 7% battery going to bed, the alarm will not go off, and the phone will be dead. That's absolutely guaranteed every time. I HATE that. I really do. It has been years since I've been so dependent on having chargers around. I swore that I would not return to a phone that I had to charge every day.
What I really don't understand is on GSM Arena, their review says it has an even better battery life in lab tests, than the M2. Not in my case.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_m4_aqua-review-1249p3.php
I use all the battery saving techniques that are available. I had the same set-up on my M2. It's not how I use the phone, or how much, or the battery saving, it's the phone.
Something else to consider, is that we've seen from Samsung and Apple that the same model of a phone can have different manufacturers. The same two models were not necessarily made with all the same parts. Mine is the 06 version, the Americas. I bought it in Canada.
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Yes, this has been a major concern for me. I hate the battery of this phone.
I went from the M2 to the M4. The battery was waaaaaaaay better on the M2. If the M2 had about 7% battery going to bed, my alarm would DEFINITELY go off the next morning, and I would have 5-6%. It was great, so reliable. I charged it around every 2 days. I used it for all normal functions including web browsing, music playing, emails, messaging etc.
If my M4 has 7% battery going to bed, the alarm will not go off, and the phone will be dead. That's absolutely guaranteed every time. I HATE that. I really do. It has been years since I've been so dependent on having chargers around. I swore that I would not return to a phone that I had to charge every day.
What I really don't understand is on GSM Arena, their review says it has an even better battery life in lab tests, than the M2. Not in my case.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_m4_aqua-review-1249p3.php
I use all the battery saving techniques that are available. I had the same set-up on my M2. It's not how I use the phone, or how much, or the battery saving, it's the phone.
Something else to consider, is that we've seen from Samsung and Apple that the same model of a phone can have different manufacturers. The same two models were not necessarily made with all the same parts. Mine is the 06 version, the Americas. I bought it in Canada.
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Battery life is amazing only when it's not connected to wifi or data. Otherwise I totally agree with you. You can delete much of the bloatware and that helps a lot
I don't know what you guys are doing with your phone but I'm getting insanely good battery life on wifi
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I'm going into bed with around 60% of battery left after day with normal usage
That is ridiculous! I want that! Let's swap our phones please!
Yeah, I wonder if the Americas version got some different parts? Maybe the screen? Who knows. But, Samsung and Apple users have had this discussion, then found out their identical phones were not made the same. Hmm.
I've flashed different firmware over time and I don't see any difference there either.
Update - Actually, a thought has come to mind. Two of you have mentioned that you use wi-fi and are happy. I mostly use data, not wi-fi. I wonder if it's the Snapdragon chip? Burns heavily on the battery?
i have not any problem with battery life...
I use the original 1.100 firmware (the phone came with the crappy .99)
3g singal all the time, data not active (expect perhaps for about 30-40 minutes), wifi active.
Well I was just browsing the web a little bit and I spotted two seperate reviews of our phone which both say the battery is inconsistent and that 4G is the battery-burner. I was right!
Confusingly, the M4 Aqua’s battery performance was very inconsistent. On Wi-Fi, we could be browsing the web or playing games for twenty minutes and only lose a few %. However, when on 4G, we saw drops of up to 15% in just half an hour of use. If you’re willing to be a little cautious with how you use your device, and you don’t insist on intensive use while off Wi-Fi, you could probably manage two days.
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http://www.trustedreviews.com/sony-...ery-life-and-verdict-page-4#tr-review-summary
During my time with the handset I found that generally the battery life was good – though uneven. Some days when moderately using the M4 Aqua for phone calls, texts and checking emails regularly, I'd end the day with the M4 Aqua still retaining an impressive 60% of its battery life – which means it would be easily capable of two day battery life.
However throw in some web browsing – both over WiFi and 4G – and the battery depletes much quicker, with a drop of around 20% after 15 minutes of browsing. So the M4 Aqua does do a fair job of holding onto battery life when used in certain circumstances, but not so well in others.
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http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-m4-aqua-1286091/review/4
I knew it couldn't just be me! I do use 4G primarily. I knew it!
So...I buy an iPhone tomorrow. Last of Sony. (not because of battery).
my 4g is always off. just dont need that kind of speed when im outside. 3g is enough for me mostly coz its not a battery hog like 4G
I was just wondering if you guys use manual or adaptive brightness. I used to use adaptive but when I turned it off for a while I saw my battery life was dramatically affected. I went from 7-8 hours of screen on to less than 5. Also, there is a severe drop in my battery when I start using the screen. Today I was using my phone lightly throughout the day and listening to some music. When I got home, my phone was at around 50% and I started to watch some youtube video on Wi-Fi. After about an hour my phone had dropped to 15%. I don't know if this drop in battery life is just due to me now using my phone with a brighter screen. I also use twilight filter which I'm not sure if it affects the battery life. I have the E2303
I installed accurate battery app, and it says that is better not to charge the phone more than 80%. I read about it in other places, is that true?
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I've never heard of this before, but I've looked up the App.
It looks interesting, and doubly so since it might help determine how much capacity my old HTC 10 has lost. It reaches 25% and switches off and just bootloops after that (which I know is a battery issue, I'm just curious to see statistics, since the phone itself seems to be unaware of any issue).
As far as only charging up to 80% goes, I've never heard of it. The only thing I've heard is that you should never let the batteries completely discharge. Getting charge back into them might be a problem.
And anything that tells you the "memory effect" could he a problem is wrong. It isn't. Only on old Ni-Cad batteries etc.
Best not to leave it on charge once full as that keeps pumping and putting unwanted wear and tear on it
If you're going to be absolutely OCD about battery health, the absolute ideal percentage to keep them at is between 40% and 80%.
But in real world usage, you're going to get absolutely minimal (no) benefit from doing this. It's just not worth it.
All you need to do is avoid discharging the battery completely. Don't let it run out to 0%.
Shipoftheline said:
Best not to leave it on charge once full as that keeps pumping and putting unwanted wear and tear on it
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Myth!
https://sciencing.com/smartphone-charger-stop-after-its-full-17317.html
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I've been doing this since owning the S9. I've only depleted the battery once, rarely let it got below 30%, and charged to 100 probably about only 5 times. I can't quite testify real world benefits yet (and probably won't for long since this is theoretically for long term benefits) since it's my first time picking up this practice with this phone. However, the frequency of my charge has been concerning me a little. Any other thoughts this or charging this frequently?
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Myth!
https://sciencing.com/smartphone-charger-stop-after-its-full-17317.html
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No its not
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/820741/Phone-charger-Apple-Samsung-battery
http://dmediamom.com/2013/04/26/rechargeable-battery-problems/
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No its not
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/820741/Phone-charger-Apple-Samsung-battery
http://dmediamom.com/2013/04/26/rechargeable-battery-problems/
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Daily Express. Same rag that posts that the UK is going to have a heatwave in summer and the coldest winter for 100 years, *every year*.
Does charging overnight have an effect on battery life? Yes, but the effect is mostly negligible.
My youngest son is currently using my 3 year old Nexus 6p. Throughout its life it has been on the charger all night, every night, and also topped up during the day.
It is still on the original battery and still gets around 4 hrs screen on time a day.
http://www.businessinsider.com/safe-charge-smartphone-overnight-2017-8
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Daily Express. Same rag that posts that the UK is going to have a heatwave in summer and the coldest winter for 100 years, *every year*.
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Doesn't matter if you're a Guardian reader the fact remains and its covered on various sites, I notice you only decided to pick one link!
My son had my old S7 Edge and wrecked the battery
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Doesn't matter if you're a Guardian reader the fact remains and its covered on various sites, I notice you only decided to pick one link!
My son had my old S7 Edge and wrecked the battery
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That's because there are loads of links that dispute it!
Facts are you said that leaving it on the charge will continue to "pump" charge into the phone, when in reality the charging circuits switch to trickle charging once 100% is reached!
As far as your S7 goes, without knowing your usage case I can't say for certain, but chances are the problem is more likely related to completely discharging the battery (which kids are wont to do) rather than leaving the phone on charge.
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We'll agree to disagree, I'll use my years in I.T
the_scotsman said:
If you're going to be absolutely OCD about battery health, the absolute ideal percentage to keep them at is between 40% and 80%.
But in real world usage, you're going to get absolutely minimal (no) benefit from doing this. It's just not worth it.
All you need to do is avoid discharging the battery completely. Don't let it run out to 0%.
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That's i wanted to know. I use my phones for years so I don't want that the batteries die faster. I want to keep them alive as max as possible. Anyway, I read a few things and it seems that this "40 to 80%" thing is true. I'm a little concerned [emoji28]
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Some discussion here and elsewhere that Accubattery isn't that accurate. I've used it for a while on both S8 and lately on S9+. Accubattety says my 3 week old S9+ is down to 95% capacity already. Whatever, after reading on reddit and xda decided to uninstall it. As a result standby time has improved. I've no hard proof other than the battery has more left in it on my average day. Battery apps - waste of time I personally think!
As to keeping above 40% and below 80% then sure it is better for battery health. I even started to do the same myself. Like the last time I tried it on my then S8 I soon got bored of the hassle of topping up. Gone back to sticking it on charge pad at none fast charge overnight. Pretty much what I've always done. Battery never seems to take much harm. Should battery lose a lot of capacity then there's a fair chance I may be upgrading phone by then or just have a new battery fitted.
Charged previous S8 overnight for a year with occasional run to flat and capacity was at 98% according to Accubattery. Danger of being OCD over battery charging, just charge it right up and enjoy the phone!
I wondered my self that question and its seems that general consensus over the internet is no, however i made my own research and i saw there are couple of studies and the truth is - YES, fast charging reduce battery life and maximum cycles it can do. Quote "Charging and discharging Li-ion above 1C reduces service life. Use a slower charge and discharge if possible. This rule applies to most batteries."
So you should not use fast charge on a daily basis and only when you need it urgently. I also would not recommend wireless charging too. Use the good old charging cable. Hope this information is helpful.
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nauvho said:
I wondered my self that question and its seems that general consensus over the internet is no, however i made my own research and i saw there are couple of studies and the truth is - YES, fast charging reduce battery life and maximum cycles it can do. Quote "Charging and discharging Li-ion above 1C reduces service life. Use a slower charge and discharge if possible. This rule applies to most batteries."
So you should not use fast charge on a daily basis and only when you need it urgently. I also would not recommend wireless charging too. Use the good old charging cable. Hope this information is helpful.
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In my opinion of coarse
A cellphone battery is no different than any other battery the slower you charge it the longer it seems to last cycle wize .
Kinda like the deep cycle batteries for marine usage I know lead and lith ion...
But in the automotive world We call a fast charge like this a surface charge.
Which isnt good for long life and or true voltages and or amprages....:crying:
But that aside the extra heat generated by quick charge is in my opin not good either....
Nor the heat from wireless charge.....
others say the heat is negligible vs the shorter time on the charge but again I do not like to quick charge my self as I put it on when I goto bed there is ample time for my device to charge through the night....My battery makes it through the day wonderfully...:good:
I have done a whole lot of battery studies and such and yes it does affect over length of life.
But in the end the battery will fail either way the ions will no longer flow between positive and negative poles and the decay process
started the minute they made the battery
But also you have to decide if you will have the device long enough for it to matter....
As most trade it in for newer or sell online So dont rob yourself of great features either.....:good::good::good:
TheMadScientist said:
In my opinion of coarse
A cellphone battery is no different than any other battery the slower you charge it the longer it seems to last cycle wize .
Kinda like the deep cycle batteries for marine usage I know lead and lith ion...
But in the automotive world We call a fast charge like this a surface charge.
Which isnt good for long life and or true voltages and or amprages....:crying:
But that aside the extra heat generated by quick charge is in my opin not good either....
Nor the heat from wireless charge.....
others say the heat is negligible vs the shorter time on the charge but again I do not like to quick charge my self as I put it on when I goto bed there is ample time for my device to charge through the night....My battery makes it through the day wonderfully...:good:
I have done a whole lot of battery studies and such and yes it does affect over length of life.
But in the end the battery will fail either way the ions will no longer flow between positive and negative poles and the decay process
started the minute they made the battery
But also you have to decide if you will have the device long enough for it to matter....
As most trade it in for newer or sell online So dont rob yourself of great features either.....:good::good::good:
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Totally agree with you, it really depends on the usage and purposes from the user for the device. In general i don't like non removable batteries but unfortunately there is no flagship phones with removable batteries anymore so sad
I have read an very detailed article on batteries and its seems that slow charging between 20 to 80% can greatly improve the battery life, for example assuming you charge your phone once per day (24h) charging it to 80% instead of 100% can improve the battery life from roughly 2 years to 4-5 years which is dramatic difference. See the chart below.
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Also temperature affect battery life tremendously too, chart below.
By the way, is there any app that can monitor Battery and CPU temp and set alarms similar to GSam battery monitor but with option to record full history and backup data in the cloud? I'm curious to see how will my battery hold and change in a year period for example.
Thanks for the infos guys, can only support your opinion. My HTC 10s battery was reduced in performance greatly after 2 years...i charged it every night with HTCs quick charger. So i killed it myself, i just figured it out too late. Now for my S9+ im using a slower 2A charger and only charge it every second night. Hope that will save me some battery life on the long term. Samsungs charger is my mobile option i keep in my backpack if im on the go.