Hi,
first, i have to tell you that I'm really surprised about the battery life. I've never experienced more battery life on any firmware before (when I'm not using the wifi connection).
But I've also got some questions, e.g. about the wakeup. It feels strange, the phone wakes up, but it was in idle, no wifi connected or display on...
Another questions is, on KD3, using Juice Defender the battery drain over night (approx. 8h) was only 1-2%, but now around 7-8%. And I also use the Juice Defender with same settings!?!?
Is it correct or what could be the problem and how to fix it?
I'm on stock OXAKH3, CF-Rooted and just removed the usual apps listed in the thread "apps secure to remove" in this forum, with root explorer...
thanks for any suggestions, your help is much appreciated.
Something is going on background. To see what is going on in background install Better Battery Stats and see under 'Partial Wakelocks'. Then you could uninstall it/freeze/modify it as per your need.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Regards.
thanks for your quick response and the link. it seems to be the solution for my wake-up problem...
I've installed this app, but maybe i'm stupid – For me this app isn't very intuitive.
I'm staring at the whole bunch of entries, but couldn't find any mysterious tasks?
I don't know how to use this app. Are there any alternatives?
666dexter said:
thanks for your quick response and the link. it seems to be the solution for my wake-up problem...
I've installed this app, but maybe i'm stupid – For me this app isn't very intuitive.
I'm staring at the whole bunch of entries, but couldn't find any mysterious tasks?
I don't know how to use this app. Are there any alternatives?
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Keep checking the Partial Wakelocks option, if anything is going on background you should see it there.
the one on the top of the list consumed the most cpu time, so one of them may be your battery drainer. Open the app, select "wake locks" and look at the top of the list.
yepp, that's what I meant... the top entries are
*network-location* Android-System with 27m 5s – 0,4%
*network-location* Google Services with 26m 16s – 0,4%
JuiceDefender.Service with 15m 57s – 0,3%
hmm, it's curious - this seems not to be the wake-up problem posted before. also how to change those system entries? this could not be the problem, or?
just to inform you, after deinstalling the app getjar, everything works fine again...
and this process or app wasn't listed within betterbatterystats, i think.
thanks anyway.
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Hello Guys!
I'm currently trying to have my hero in sleep mode most of the time. the big problem seems: when the screen is turned off (its like partial wake or something, i'm sorry i have the german version "teilwachzustand") my phone is actually 70-80% active of the time.
I determine this with the program spareparts. sadly it's not a specific app, it's just "android system" i reckon that this includes processes running and widgets etc. i haven't found a programm that watches which processes drain the energy.
A friend of mine has a stock samsung android also with spareparts, and his has a 10 percent active time when the phone screen is turned off.
So is the Hero (MODACO 3.1) just the way it is of do i have a bad widget or program running causing this permanent use of the phone?
(i have beautiful widgets (only the vibrate button and clock), astrid list, and mostly apps)
i tried one night loading an empty scene no widgets at all. and still phoneusage 70% .....
i am aware that processes are running, but not apps....
it seems that the "fring" process is running even if the autostart is deactivated and no inscance of the app is actually running.
also "saymyname" which i use to recieve calls.
if it helps i can list all of the running processes here. maybe there is a programm that is know for such issues.
thanks for your help in advance!
Yes. That sounds like partial wake-lock. (Teilwachzustand)
I didn't like Fring since it seemed to run constantly. Try uninstalling it temporarily and see if that helps. I don't know about saymyname, but why not give it a try with it uninstalled and see. If it helps, my partial wakelock usage is probably nearer 5%/10% on Android System, and that was with some pretty heavy usage and running stuff in the background. Normally it's a bit less for me.
HTH
Thanks for the Reply!
i've uninstalled taskpanel and removed my taskkiller app from the desktop and it seemes that the problem is solved 5-10% usage. (i use the taskkiller part from astro filemanager now)
I'm happy that the problem is solved.... (a pity though, because taskpanel really did make the handling very smoothly...)
How do I completely freeze this service using T backup pro?
I freezed Gtalk 1.0.3 the app, but using Betterbatterystats reveal that gtalk_async_conn still resulting in partial wakelock timing
I have also noticed this.
Anyway we can stop it?
Still no solution? GTALK_ASYNC_CONN is my main Partial Wakelock in the Betterbatterystats (KH3 firmware) and heavy battery drainer with about 60 min of activity during 8 hours...
same problem with me...and no one on Google does not have a solution for this.
installed 'Better Battery Stats' to see what was keeping the phone up and it's "gtalk_async_conn". The thing is that I don't even use Google Talk. I tried to disable auto-login and freeze it with Titanium Backup without any luck. The only thing that worked was to disable 'Background data' but other apps like Market needs that option on.
Literally everyone appears to have this problem, i actually froze Talk in Titanium and have had no problems but is this Gtalk_async_conn related to this or what?
This problem persist more with google Maps 5.8, 5.9 version. I uninstalled the google maps and noticed that problem was solved, issue was not present anymore in wakelock of batterbatterystats. However it's not permanent solution.
same prob here. would be nice if s.o. has a solution
I also uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup) and it helped for a while -- got really minimal battery drain for several hours. But now the problem is back so I'm wondering if it might also be related to Market or Gmail.
I would say this is the answer.
ANSWER
And it would explain why everyone has it.
That post might explain what it is, but it's not very helpful at solving the issue.
I turned off notifications in Market (some versions don't have this setting; try Market 3.1.3). If it still doesn't help then I am going to try turning off Gmail sync.
Turn off all syncing (gmail, calander, etc), turn off background data and you may have it disappear, also don't use anything that uses google c2d push notifications.
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I did the following:
- Uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup)
- Turned off notifications in Market (using Market 3.1.3)
- Turned off Google accounting syncing for everything except Gmail (background data / auto-sync still enabled)
Partial wakelocks for GTALK_ASYNC_CONN are now very low. Just a couple of seconds over 15+ hours of low use.
However I think I still have some battery drain (based on Battery Monitor Widget) so I am looking at other possibilities.
claimui said:
I did the following:
- Uninstalled Google Maps (rooted; used free edition of Titanium Backup)
- Turned off notifications in Market (using Market 3.1.3)
- Turned off Google accounting syncing for everything except Gmail (background data / auto-sync still enabled)
Partial wakelocks for GTALK_ASYNC_CONN are now very low. Just a couple of seconds over 15+ hours of low use.
However I think I still have some battery drain (based on Battery Monitor Widget) so I am looking at other possibilities.
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I am not trying to be a smartass but doesn't your battery monitor widget cause some battery drain?
hondaguy said:
I am not trying to be a smartass but doesn't your battery monitor widget cause some battery drain?
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Totally valid point. But I have also tried running it with Battery Monitor Widget turned off and I still see the same drain (by looking at the battery history graph).
Also while experimenting, I had a couple of hours where Battery Monitor Widget continuously reported -1mA battery discharge (while Battery Monitor Widget was running of course). The battery history graph was basically flat. So that tells me that I can still run Battery Monitor Widget and get minimal battery usage -- if everything else is working right.
In the Better Battery Stats thread, the developer says his target battery discharge is -2mA to -10mA (measured by Battery Monitor Widget). I know it's possible because I've gotten it before, but lately I'm somewhere around -70mA so that's what I've been working on.
Getting great battery life now with the Gtalk_async_conn issue seemingly gone. I still have Maps removed -- luckily I do not need it much these days. I also notice that Market likes to stay running in the background, where it uses some CPU time even with notifications disabled. Also, turning on Google Calendar auto-sync caused significant battery drain.
Quick summary:
- Uninstall/freeze Maps
- Kill Market if it's running in the background
- Turn off Google account syncing for everything except Gmail
- Turn off "Back up my data" under Privacy settings
I was at about 50% battery after 20 hours. I am running Cognition 1.5.1 with SpeedMod kernel.
claimui said:
Getting great battery life now with the Gtalk_async_conn issue seemingly gone. I still have Maps removed -- luckily I do not need it much these days. I also notice that Market likes to stay running in the background, where it uses some CPU time even with notifications disabled. Also, turning on Google Calendar auto-sync caused significant battery drain.
Quick summary:
- Uninstall/freeze Maps
- Kill Market if it's running in the background
- Turn off Google account syncing for everything except Gmail
I was at about 50% battery after 20 hours. I am running Cognition 1.5.1 with SpeedMod kernel.
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It's good to know that these mods work, but they are pretty extreme for me, and I would assume many others. I actively use the functionality of Maps and other Google account syncing. I hope that someone can work out a way to minimize the usage without cutting off the functionality completely.
For what it's worth, I see a dramatically higher usage of the GTALK process when I am at work where some of the syncs are blocked on the office wifi. Out of the office on 3G or at home, the amount of time GTALK is active is significantly reduced.
Atrix here but same issue. I agree if turning off syncs is the way to go, I might as well buy a dumbphone
I agree it's annoying. But the battery life improvement is dramatic, even more so than I mentioned in my earlier post. I used to get <20 hours per charge. Now I get about 3 days. Hopefully these are just bugs in the apps that Google will fix in future versions.
Not sure what is causing it. I have turned off auto-sync, logged out of gtalk, and even turned off "Back up my data" and "Automatic restore" from Settings>Privacy.
I still notice 1-2 minutes of partial wakelocks.
Try killing Market if it is running.
Hi, I have a stock i9300, rooted.
About 3 days ago, I noticed that my device, which normally gets through a day comfortably, was running out of juice by early afternoon.
I've checked the data usage meter and it shows that Google Services is doing something with data constantly. It's not a lot of data (500MB over 7 days) but it's enough to keep my "H+" showing data uploading and downloading all the time, which is not normal behaviour.
As a result of this, the battery is running dry. Even when plugged in, the charging isn't keeping up and eventually the battery runs out, and I have to leave the phone off for a bit to recharge.
I have since turned off background data for Google Services, and I'm hoping this works, although I don't know what I'm going to lose in terms of functionality as a result of doing that.
But I'd like to know what the problem is and why this has suddenly happened as it's really bugging me. Hoping someone else has experienced this. I have searched for other threads on this topic, all refer to battery drain but I don't seem to have the same issue. If I look at my battery stats I'm not seeing Google Services at the top of the list like others. Mine is more to do with data.
Cheers,
Pete
I cant answer why or what it is, but one thing I did notice wasted a lot of battery for me (other than google now of course) was the google backup. You know the one you tick when you first go through the set up wizard on the phone? "Backup this device with google".
piannetta said:
Hi, I have a stock i9300, rooted.
About 3 days ago, I noticed that my device, which normally gets through a day comfortably, was running out of juice by early afternoon.
I've checked the data usage meter and it shows that Google Services is doing something with data constantly. It's not a lot of data (500MB over 7 days) but it's enough to keep my "H+" showing data uploading and downloading all the time, which is not normal behaviour.
As a result of this, the battery is running dry. Even when plugged in, the charging isn't keeping up and eventually the battery runs out, and I have to leave the phone off for a bit to recharge.
I have since turned off background data for Google Services, and I'm hoping this works, although I don't know what I'm going to lose in terms of functionality as a result of doing that.
But I'd like to know what the problem is and why this has suddenly happened as it's really bugging me. Hoping someone else has experienced this. I have searched for other threads on this topic, all refer to battery drain but I don't seem to have the same issue. If I look at my battery stats I'm not seeing Google Services at the top of the list like others. Mine is more to do with data.
Cheers,
Pete
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hi,
if you have various system or user apps wakelocks, first do a monitoring it with your favorite battery monitor and analysis tool to details.
gmail, google services, backup, sync contacts, other syncs google plus, etc, localization services, call direct or indirectly other apps, bringing more wakelocks (partial, kernel, network - your case I think) ... and more battery drains ... facebook is a classic example ... hungry app
Wakelocks - read it ... enlight your questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Wakelocks
to monitorate and analyse the battery consumption, drain, and wakes use BetterBatteryStats - bbs
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats - thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
you can use traditional battery savers (i didn't recommend)
I do use greenify together with bbs (paid app - to full hibernate and extras, but very good - the "engine" is different, doesn't kill or freeze, but hibernate system (need root) or users apps. @oasisfeng created a smart and reliable engine - support him
[APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT* v1.85 beta 6 (Updated on Jun.6)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
increase my battery and decrease unnecessary wakelocks ... excellent results ...
see other members comments in xda thread and user reviews in google play
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify.pro
i recommend check this:
[GUIDE]Tips to Improve your android battery life
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144661
best regards,
Hey guys,
I had an idea - since I'm really not "using" my Android S3 phone all day long, it gets frustrating when the bettery runs at 30% at 2pm, without any real use.
So the concept would be:
1) either a "ROM" of Android, which would be seriously minimal - like the device is not a smartphone - so only wake up on incoming call or text message
2) or an app, which does the same thing - suspends the phone completely, and wakes it up only on the incoming call or text message
I was just curious - does something like this exist? I don't care about apps, notifications, wifi or sync, I was thinking more along the lines of would it be possible to use your smartphone like a typical "cell phone", and when you need other apps or full features (GPS navigation with maps, or Shazam, or whatever it is you need) - you just "reboot" or do a qucik switch to "full Android" mode, and use those features.
Does any of this makes any sense?
I feel that the battery life should be at least 5 days in that mode, with light usage?
Anyway, I apologize if I got the wrong subsection of the forum, but I was just curious to see if anybody else already though of this, or if they didn't, would it be plausible? I'm a web developer, but I would maybe even try to make something like this in case there's a big need..
It's called deep sleep. Basically, your phone is always in deep sleep when the screen is off, unless there's an active wakelock. Usually, apps request those (or the kernel.) What you can do is to remove (or freeze) apps that request too many wakelocks… You can search around for more detailed info.
In your case, since you only want to use your smartphone as a phone, you could remove all the user apps. You can also remove Google services APKs from /system/app (root required.) To check what apps are requesting wakelocks, you can use Better Battery Stats (read the tutorial inside the app.)
Oh wow, cool! So someone though of this before me. Awesome!
Hey thanks so much for your quick reply, I'll read into the "deep sleep" logic, and I'll take a look at the app right away..
Thanks again man!
Some additional things to help:
Greenify (requires root for most effectiveness) - lets you hibernate apps
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
There's also the Donate package that will let you hibernate system apps.
That combined with something like this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743316
or
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dianxinos.dxbs
Might help without having to do a bunch of crazy stuff.
Ok so for the life of me I cant figure out why my battery is draining so fast its literally draining about 10% an hour if not more. If tried a bunch of different tools to try and monitor it but nothing is really standing out as a main culprit. I recently had my phone replaced and I had them send a new battery just for the heck of it. Also I even tried putting Hyperdrive Roms on my phone and that did not help. So I debating on whether to go back to stock and just root and see what happens again after just removing bloatware.
I tried looking up battery tips but really haven't found anything recently. I only got my phone in May of this year. Any suggestions or links would greatly help I love my phone but cant stand the battery life. I miss my Droid Razr Maxx
SUPERSPORT25 said:
Ok so for the life of me I cant figure out why my battery is draining so fast its literally draining about 10% an hour if not more. If tried a bunch of different tools to try and monitor it but nothing is really standing out as a main culprit. I recently had my phone replaced and I had them send a new battery just for the heck of it. Also I even tried putting Hyperdrive Roms on my phone and that did not help. So I debating on whether to go back to stock and just root and see what happens again after just removing bloatware.
I tried looking up battery tips but really haven't found anything recently. I only got my phone in May of this year. Any suggestions or links would greatly help I love my phone but cant stand the battery life. I miss my Droid Razr Maxx
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Not sure but I think its a Kit Kat issue. I recall having more battery life on JB than on Kitkat with my S4.
There are lots of things you can do.
System Settings
•WiFi - change sleep policy from ALWAYS (staying on) to either "Only when plugged in" or "never"
•Account Sync - under my Google account(s) I only keep CONTACTS and GMAIL checked...the rest unchecked
•Motions, Smart Features, Gestures, Air - Turn ALL of this crap off!
•Animation Scaling- In Developer Options - I use these settings: Window Animation=OFF/ Transition Animation=0.5x/ Animator Duration=0.5x
In-App Settings
•Play Store - In settings, change Auto-Update Apps to Never...you can do this manually from time to time. If not, it'll just always scan.
•App Ops - This can be a little tedious, but go through your apps (especially under Location) and turn location off on whatever you think doesn't need it! You may want to test out each app to be sure it is functioning properly before you move on to the next app. This makes it much easier to go back and enable it again if you see its needed. Most of the Google apps are gonna need it.
Freeze or Uninstall System Apps
•Check out my thread on which system apps you can remove here
***I recommend using NoBloat to make your changes with:good:
Additional apps & Xposed modules to check out
•Greenify - Hands down my favorite battery saving app. If you don't know it, that's why your battery life sucks! Seriously though, GET IT!
•Greenify Donation (Xposed) - Adds several more features, such as allowing system apps to be greenifiable! Also works well with WakeLock Detector
•WakeLock Detector - Helps determine which apps are waking up your phone while its asleep...allows you to prevent future wakeups.
•Gsam Battery Monitor Pro - Not sure if the free version lets you use the monitoring feature or not, but basically it is like a glorified battery usage graph (like in system settings)
•BootManager - Xposed module allowing you to select which apps are able to run in startup. Not sure how it compares with Greenify, but I just use both
•Prevent Running - Also similar to Greenify. I'm in the process of checking this one out, so don't hold me to it being great.
I took this from @calebcabob
SUPERSPORT25 said:
Ok so for the life of me I cant figure out why my battery is draining so fast its literally draining about 10% an hour if not more. If tried a bunch of different tools to try and monitor it but nothing is really standing out as a main culprit. I recently had my phone replaced and I had them send a new battery just for the heck of it. Also I even tried putting Hyperdrive Roms on my phone and that did not help. So I debating on whether to go back to stock and just root and see what happens again after just removing bloatware.
I tried looking up battery tips but really haven't found anything recently. I only got my phone in May of this year. Any suggestions or links would greatly help I love my phone but cant stand the battery life. I miss my Droid Razr Maxx
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Post the log from BetterBatteryStats, that tells all.
GrizzlyBarrn said:
There are lots of things you can do.
System Settings
•WiFi - change sleep policy from ALWAYS (staying on) to either "Only when plugged in" or "never"
•Account Sync - under my Google account(s) I only keep CONTACTS and GMAIL checked...the rest unchecked
•Motions, Smart Features, Gestures, Air - Turn ALL of this crap off!
•Animation Scaling- In Developer Options - I use these settings: Window Animation=OFF/ Transition Animation=0.5x/ Animator Duration=0.5x
In-App Settings
•Play Store - In settings, change Auto-Update Apps to Never...you can do this manually from time to time. If not, it'll just always scan.
•App Ops - This can be a little tedious, but go through your apps (especially under Location) and turn location off on whatever you think doesn't need it! You may want to test out each app to be sure it is functioning properly before you move on to the next app. This makes it much easier to go back and enable it again if you see its needed. Most of the Google apps are gonna need it.
Freeze or Uninstall System Apps
•Check out my thread on which system apps you can remove here
***I recommend using NoBloat to make your changes with:good:
Additional apps & Xposed modules to check out
•Greenify - Hands down my favorite battery saving app. If you don't know it, that's why your battery life sucks! Seriously though, GET IT!
•Greenify Donation (Xposed) - Adds several more features, such as allowing system apps to be greenifiable! Also works well with WakeLock Detector
•WakeLock Detector - Helps determine which apps are waking up your phone while its asleep...allows you to prevent future wakeups.
•Gsam Battery Monitor Pro - Not sure if the free version lets you use the monitoring feature or not, but basically it is like a glorified battery usage graph (like in system settings)
•BootManager - Xposed module allowing you to select which apps are able to run in startup. Not sure how it compares with Greenify, but I just use both
•Prevent Running - Also similar to Greenify. I'm in the process of checking this one out, so don't hold me to it being great.
I took this from @calebcabob
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This is good info thanks. I am doing most of it such as Greenify, etc. Wakelock Detector I have no clue how to use though. I open it up and its like chinese to me any tips on using that? I did not realize the play store is always scanning for updates...interesting. The only thing I see disturbing is that security is the thing I see most used even after shutting the phone off and turning it back on in Usage Timelines. I am rooted and Knox is disabled so im wondering what is causing the high usage on this.
SUPERSPORT25 said:
This is good info thanks. I am doing most of it such as Greenify, etc. Wakelock Detector I have no clue how to use though. I open it up and its like chinese to me any tips on using that? I did not realize the play store is always scanning for updates...interesting. The only thing I see disturbing is that security is the thing I see most used even after shutting the phone off and turning it back on in Usage Timelines. I am rooted and Knox is disabled so im wondering what is causing the high usage on this.
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WakeLock detector works great for exactly what you're trying to figure out. Check out the WakeLock guide, it'll show you exactly what it's role is. Once you have it installed, you will sometimes see a scissors icon in Greenify when you have something listed under NOT hibernating or pending...click it! You'll see the option for Greenify to "cut-off" the process chain...this prevents further wakeups from what had specifically started up the process. I highly recommend you take a look at gsam battery monitor (I think that's the name), it will also give you details on which processes are killing your battery.
I am not positive but I think you can disable that security process without any issue. You may want to Google that though.
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SUPERSPORT25 said:
This is good info thanks. I am doing most of it such as Greenify, etc. Wakelock Detector I have no clue how to use though. I open it up and its like chinese to me any tips on using that? I did not realize the play store is always scanning for updates...interesting. The only thing I see disturbing is that security is the thing I see most used even after shutting the phone off and turning it back on in Usage Timelines. I am rooted and Knox is disabled so im wondering what is causing the high usage on this.
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Short answer...WakeLock only detects, you decide what you need to STOP from there. But there are apps that can utilize WakeLock to detect those battery killers and stop, freeze or remove processes or apps for you...such as Greenify.
Also, I can't stress enough how worth it it is to buy Greenify's experimental features, as it will allow you to get deeper into the whole Greenifying thing!! Hell yes it does:good:
calebcabob said:
WakeLock detector works great for exactly what you're trying to figure out. Check out the WakeLock guide, it'll show you exactly what it's role is. Once you have it installed, you will sometimes see a scissors icon in Greenify when you have something listed under NOT hibernating or pending...click it! You'll see the option for Greenify to "cut-off" the process chain...this prevents further wakeups from what had specifically started up the process. I highly recommend you take a look at gsam battery monitor (I think that's the name), it will also give you details on which processes are killing your battery.
I am not positive but I think you can disable that security process without any issue. You may want to Google that though.
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Short answer...WakeLock only detects, you decide what you need to STOP from there. But there are apps that can utilize WakeLock to detect those battery killers and stop, freeze or remove processes or apps for you...such as Greenify.
Also, I can't stress enough how worth it it is to buy Greenify's experimental features, as it will allow you to get deeper into the whole Greenifying thing!! Hell yes it does:good:
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Yes I pretty much have everything that people have suggested including the experimental version of Greenify. I am running Wakelock Detector, GSAM Battery Monitor, Usage Timelines.
However I am still seeing this Security Process running at about 6% and about 82.45 MB. I am not really experiencing any drain when the phone is sleeping.
SUPERSPORT25 said:
Yes I pretty much have everything that people have suggested including the experimental version of Greenify. I am running Wakelock Detector, GSAM Battery Monitor, Usage Timelines.
However I am still seeing this Security Process running at about 6% and about 82.45 MB. I am not really experiencing any drain when the phone is sleeping.
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Can u post a screenshot of gsam's monitor section? Its the part that has the list of usage...looks similar to the battery monitor screen in Android settings.