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I haven't seen this anywhere yet, but on my rooted Eris, I'm using (or at least trying to) Wireless Tether & every time I do, my phone overheats, to the point of shutting the phone down. Anyone else get this problem? Anyone know how to fix it?
I don't think there is a way around it. It happens to me too. I guess you could probably keep your phone near some sort of cold air source like an air conditioner or fan if u want to try to reduce the temperature of your phone while using the app.
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ghstrdr1985 said:
I haven't seen this anywhere yet, but on my rooted Eris, I'm using (or at least trying to) Wireless Tether & every time I do, my phone overheats, to the point of shutting the phone down. Anyone else get this problem? Anyone know how to fix it?
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Are you overclocking? If so try turning down the Mhz a little. That should help.
How to use the 3g hotspot app for free
I looked and looked and didnt find this anywhere except for eclair and just got done doing mine a little bit ago as the steps are different now.
You used to be able to select dial up mode in wireless settings but now if you have the new froyo leak. Now you dial **usbui and change usb mode to modem. Plug in to pc fire up qpst add port once you see phone select start clients/service programming. next click read from phone, password should be typed in already as 000000. scroll over to m.ip and select the active profile, should be profile 0 and change tethered nai to [email protected] the phone will reboot and your good to go start tethering with apmode. Some may choose to reenter the usb modem settings and change it back to pda(the first step) but i do not see it as neccessary. If this has been posted by someone else already feel free to delete and if in wrong catagory feel free to move.
Just remember these steps are for FROYO leak anly not for eclair users although they may work for that also just dont have an eclair phone to test on.
I have done this for a long time and never encoured any charges although i am not liable for any problems you may come across, ive never had any. As long as your not seeing the verizon webpage when you access web via your phone then your set.
Any questions feel free to ask but i may just tell you to google it.
There was a reason you didn't find threads on it.
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adrynalyne said:
There was a reason you didn't find threads on it.
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And that reason is?
dalrym05 said:
And that reason is?
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There is supposedly monitoring built into dl30 that allows verizon to track tethering
..that's why theres the warning in the original leak
nitsuj17 said:
There is supposedly monitoring built into dl30 that allows verizon to track tethering
..that's why theres the warning in the original leak
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I have read that also. Im calling verizon everyday and playing dumb and making sure im not being charged additional and so far nothing has been added to my account. And i likehow its supposedly built in. Ill be the guinea pigand report back and keep everyone update one big bill wont bother me
Running the hack on 2.1, 3g drops like crazy as soon as i turn on hotspot, any suggestions?
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dalrym05 said:
I have read that also. Im calling verizon everyday and playing dumb and making sure im not being charged additional and so far nothing has been added to my account. And i likehow its supposedly built in. Ill be the guinea pigand report back and keep everyone update one big bill wont bother me
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How is this for supposedly?
http://db.tt/avrxUI9
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adrynalyne said:
How is this for supposedly?
http://db.tt/avrxUI9
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Why can't that file just be removed from the ROM? Would it cause the rom to just not work at all?
Forgive me for probably not using the correct terminology but does the mobile hotspot app handle tethering the same as say the wifi tether app? I just wonder if one sets off the flag to verizon where the other wouldn't.
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Tkun said:
Why can't that file just be removed from the ROM? Would it cause the rom to just not work at all?
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It will break wifi if you remove the module. It ties into dhd.ko, the wifi driver.
Play nice everybody
Just got off the phone with Verizon. Been using the 3g hotspots for several days now tethered more then a gig so and I called and just asked if I was being billed for the hotspots app and they said there is nothing on my account about it that I've never had it and I would never be charged for it unless I actually signed up by changing my plan. So I'm gonna keep using mine. If anything changes I will let everyone know but I personally believe it is safe to use. I think that moniters for when you hit the 5 gig mark on your data then they start to throttle it. But this is just my opinion. But I think its a good one.;-)
Not to mention I've been using it for a pretty long while on eclair before froyo.
In fact I'm tethering right now to my gtab.
I have a couple problems with that.
First, if you admitted it, your account was likely flagged.
Second, VZW reps change their stories each time you call.
The monitor wasn't in place on eclair.
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Does the same thing hold true if you wanted to use WiFi Tether for Root Users? Maybe this has already been answered, but I'm just looking for confirmation. TIA...
We don't know.
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I have a couple problems with that.
First, if you admitted it, your account was likely flagged.
Second, VZW reps change their stories each time you call.
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If it's any consolation, VZW doesn't have a flagging system, at least not one the frontline reps can access, so mentioning it on a call won't flag you. And the reason the stories change each time you call is because you might get a guy that's adept at what he does on the first call, then the next call you might get an outsourced moron from AFNI, and the next time get a person taking their first week of calls....
When you call, they are going to the features list, and looking for the feature called "Mobile Broadband Hotspot 2GB $20". Upon seeing it is not there, that is what they tell you.
What you NEED is a tech rep (like myself) to go into the back-side of the billing system or the switch, and check your records there. The switch will tell me if something is 'off' about your data, like if a rate limit has been added. The billing system will tell me if there are DUN (dial up networking) connections being reported. But, in all likelihood, the groups doing any kind of monitoring are **NOT** the folks taking your calls. They work in the switches or corporate, and their goings-on are a mystery to us that do take your calls. So, they could be minutely tracking each byte and I, as a tenured Tech rep, wouldn't have the foggiest idea what they were doing.
Just to share with you how 'in the loop' we in the call centers are kept, I had an engineer call me last week complaining that his test device couldn't authenticate phone calls. I asked for the number, and it pulls up a device listed as "Test Device 7". I asked for the make/model of the phone, and he tells me, "I can't tell you that, it's unreleased and classified". I then tell him, without even a brand, I can't create a new authentication key and give him steps to program it into the phone. He still wouldn't tell me anything, so I told him to seek help with the person that gave him the top secret phone and hope they can do my job too.
if the op wants to disregard the warnings and tether...then by all means tether...but theres a reason monitoring was put into froyo...and i cant imagine it was for our benefit...so meh
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How is this for supposedly?
http://db.tt/avrxUI9
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Is it possible to modify the file, this is way over my head but if the file points to a certain location to send the info, maybe we can modify that address and avoid been flagged by verizon...
like i said way over my head but what do you guys think (the ones that know bout this kinda stuff)?
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I have a couple problems with that.
First, if you admitted it, your account was likely flagged.
Second, VZW reps change their stories each time you call.
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I didnt admit it i told them a family member had my phone and when i got it back the hotspot app was on my homescreen and wasnt for sure what they did with it. Besides even if they do charge me which i doubt they will its only gonna be 30 bucks. I can handle that to let everyone else know what really happens. But its just like people worryjng about sending back rooted phones with changes for warrenty replacements. I just wipe my numbers out and send it rooted boot animation changed everything even a custom rom and theme one time. They dont pay attention to the phones. They get them plug them in and flash them to stock. Just mt two cents. When i recieve my feb bill ill let you know whether or not i get charged anythjng for tethering.
I got this phone almost a week ago and loving it so far. My only problem is the hotspot. I did the sqlite hack where you disable verizon from making you pay for it. When i enable hotspot (the default program or even foxfi) i can get a connection maybe for 10 minutes then the connection gets messed up. It's like limited access and then i have to restart the hotspot and hope it fixed the problem. Anyone else getting this problem or know how to fix it? Would really appreciate it.
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A Co-Worker has the Razr Maxx and has Hot Spot issues with Connections on the standard app in which VZW charges. My guess its a Moto thing.
I pay the $30 a month for hotspot. I also have unlimited data and use it as my sole source of internet. Mine is rock solid. I will have my PC, laptop, Xbox, and tablet all connected. I watch Netflix, download torrents, everything. I never have any issues. I had major issues with my old HTC Thunderbolt after about 6 months of using it that way but not with the RAZR MAXX.
One tip I can give you is the phone can get really hot; I have a desktop tower with a "blowhole" fan on top. I always put my phone right over that fan so it stays very cool. If you are going to crank data through the phone you really need to figure out some kind of cooling option. I think that might have been what happened to my Thunderbolt. It got so hot and repeatedly so that it damaged it a bit and then had problems after that.
This happens to me all the time, I have asked Verizon about it, and keep getting the run around. The hotspot keeps working, the data connection seems to drop.
Touch-ee said:
I pay the $30 a month for hotspot. I also have unlimited data and use it as my sole source of internet. Mine is rock solid. I will have my PC, laptop, Xbox, and tablet all connected. I watch Netflix, download torrents, everything. I never have any issues. I had major issues with my old HTC Thunderbolt after about 6 months of using it that way but not with the RAZR MAXX.
One tip I can give you is the phone can get really hot; I have a desktop tower with a "blowhole" fan on top. I always put my phone right over that fan so it stays very cool. If you are going to crank data through the phone you really need to figure out some kind of cooling option. I think that might have been what happened to my Thunderbolt. It got so hot and repeatedly so that it damaged it a bit and then had problems after that.
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I'm so jealous!!! I did the root and hacked the phone to get free thether. It works for others but not for me . I really do love the hotspot but it just gets on my nerves to have to dissconect/not-working after 5 min. I just wish the hotspot was free.... just verizon trying to milk money out of you.
danielfc741 said:
I got this phone almost a week ago and loving it so far. My only problem is the hotspot. I did the sqlite hack where you disable verizon from making you pay for it. When i enable hotspot (the default program or even foxfi) i can get a connection maybe for 10 minutes then the connection gets messed up. It's like limited access and then i have to restart the hotspot and hope it fixed the problem. Anyone else getting this problem or know how to fix it? Would really appreciate it.
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I also used the sql hack and I never got this. The only think I can suggest is re-setup you network.. :/
This worked for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520224
using the android-wifi-tether app
FoxFi and Android tether both work great for me.
I have never had to pay anything extra.
I dont go crazy I just use it when I need it.
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I used them both on my rooted charge.
And I used FoxFi on my wifes unrooted Samsung Fascinate.
My friend has been using FoxFi on his new unrooted Maxx XT912
and I just rooted my XT912, but I dont expect to have any problems.
I never have before.
Maybe its because I use more data on my phone than tethered like 10 to 1.
jeeper14 said:
This worked for me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520224
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THANK YOU! now i can abuse my hotspot \
PPL heres what i did.
Just follow this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tLyjsufOLs
your going to want to move the STOCK Mobile hotspot app that verizon gives you. Once you move it it shouldn't be under your apps anymore. After go here and download code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether
Now you should be able to hotspot no problems.
THANKS GUYS FOR THE HELP!!! REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT!
Offtopic post, but here is gos: I unpluged my razr at about 10:30, but did not use it intill 11:30 to make a call and they did not pick up so it did not last long. I then went to work and took a brake at 4:30 and the phone flashed the green light at me. I could not charge it with car charger, but could get the stock one at home to do it.(what does the green light meen any way.)
Do I have a bad phone? will it die? why did it only last less than 5H?
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Offtopic post, but here is gos: I unpluged my razr at about 10:30, but did not use it intill 11:30 to make a call and they did not pick up so it did not last long. I then went to work and took a brake at 4:30 and the phone flashed the green light at me. I could not charge it with car charger, but could get the stock one at home to do it.(what does the green light meen any way.)
Do I have a bad phone? will it die? why did it only last less than 5H?
Thanks
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im guessing the notification led??? So if you get an email or text it flashes green (what im thinking)
it flashed the green led every time I tryed to turn it on. I just have this fealing the phone will die, becuase a lot of tech thing's have "signs" of death. My laptop is starting now, becuase it's turning 4 years old and I have used it fair bit.( It's a gaming laptop or I should say thats the #1 use.)
i asked a verizon store rep and he had no idea.
Can Verizon track how much data you are using when using the android wifi tether app??
*puts on flame retardant suit*
I swear I used the search button but didn't find a clear answer in any threads.
....and I'm not trying to start a debate about the morals of tethering without paying for a tethering plan.
I simply want to know if freezing and/or locking "TetheringManager" with an app like Titanium Backup or App Quarantine will allow you to tether (and this is the important part ) without being caught by your provider.
Thanks!
EpicEric said:
*puts on flame retardant suit*
I swear I used the search button but didn't find a clear answer in any threads.
....and I'm not trying to start a debate about the morals of tethering without paying for a tethering plan.
I simply want to know if freezing and/or locking "TetheringManager" with an app like Titanium Backup or App Quarantine will allow you to tether (and this is the important part ) without being caught by your provider.
Thanks!
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Yes. You can tether for free by freezing it. I don't know if they can track it at all but I've done it a couple times and never heard anything from them or seen anything on my bill about it... just beware data usage.
As far as morals of it... There are no morals behind it, all it is, is using data. It is a feature that is built into the hardware, we pay the phone company for the data, we should be able to use it however we like.
I haven't done it but I've read people having mixed results. I have also read an AT&T employee mention that they "know more about our data usage than we think" so I'd say be careful with it. I've heard different browsers on your PC have a bit to do with it as well, probably avoid Safari.
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I don't think that that will work. A guy at the tech support for at&T explained to me that they can tell if your using the phone for tethering because your computer has a different ip and mac address then your phone. Their server receives a request from your tethered computer, they can see that that request did not come from your phone.
You could try it, they warn you by text and phone 3 times before they switch your data plan to a tethering one.
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Seems almost too easy.
People are fairly sure that browser useragent is one of the main triggers. Also, there are a lot of apps that are "obviously" coming from a PC.
If you tether another Android device (like a tablet), it seems like you'll be fine. I tether my Tab 10.1 all the time with no problems.
Using a encrypted VPN stops all chances of AT&T knowing a thing
Entropy512 said:
People are fairly sure that browser useragent is one of the main triggers. Also, there are a lot of apps that are "obviously" coming from a PC.
If you tether another Android device (like a tablet), it seems like you'll be fine. I tether my Tab 10.1 all the time with no problems.
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There's a thread about this in the infuse forums from forever ago. But yes, from my research, it seems that the useragent is what gets you busted. Be careful
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TTL is also a very big possibly of the detection method. All data goes through att proxy servers and is analyzed. Only way to make sure is to use a vpn. Around a year ago, a company in Europe said they could analyze all packets, regardless of encryption status.
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how would a vpn stop them from knowing?
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Seems almost too easy.
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Ha. I knew it seemed to easy. I think this is what we're looking for. Thanks guys.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1378970
After reading up on this it would appear that there is no 100% sure way to tether without being caught. Various methods have been tried with varying results. I'm willing to bet that it's simply the amount of data you consume that determines if you get caught.
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After reading up on this it would appear that there is no 100% sure way to tether without being caught. Various methods have been tried with varying results. I'm willing to bet that it's simply the amount of data you consume that determines if you get caught.
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I'd imagine that's about rite. I've tethered for short periods and never had an issue. However i'm guessing if your usage suddenly jumps or looks strange, it throws a flag up and they look a bit deeper at that point. I'm guessing there's gotta be something that triggers the "deeper analysis" of your usage. I can't image they literally scan everything that comes through the network, just to see if someone's tethering without the correct plan, that would seem like a big waste of resources.
of course this is all just my speculation, I could very well be completely wrong.
Just pay for the tethering plan, like most of us do. There are genuine reasons data costs so much and is limited. I'm not going into that because I'm sure you can figure out the reasons.
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TTL is the main way they detect it. Coming from our phones it starts out as 64. If you are tethering to a windows machine the TTL will be 128. In other words, if ATT sees a value higher than 64, there is a good chance that that traffic is not originating from you phone. The safest way to tether is to use "Tether" by Koushik Dutta, the dev for ROM manager. It is not available in the market because att has blocked it,but you can grab it from clockworkmod.com. It essentially sets your phone up to be a proxy so att thinks the traffic is originating from your phone, thus having a TTL value lower than 64. To take thing even a step further....pay for a secure vpn provider. I use tigervpns in the market or play...I hate the new name! It cheap, fast and secure. Happy tethering!
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Ik it's not the right place but I can't seem to find anything on this so if anyone knows how to get unlimited Wi-Fi tethering with the LGV 10 on T-Mobile's network after root is obtained of course let me know I'm not the only one looking for this I'm sure
This goes under Q & A not in a development section. Please familiarize yourself with the forum rules and also try searching as I am pretty sure this has been asked already.
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i tried to look for a thread for about a hr before i posted this i relize i may not always word stuff right so please share a link if u find one bc all i could find was ppl talking about there 7gb of aloud tethering and i need more than that
Just sign up for "Binge On". I tether to my tablet every night @ work & it doesn't count towards my data. I love it!
Utorrent76 said:
Just sign up for "Binge On". I tether to my tablet every night @ work & it doesn't count towards my data. I love it!
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I turned my phone into a hotspot and streamed Netflix from my smart TV and was surprised to see its not hitting my hotspot data!
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I turned my phone into a hotspot and streamed Netflix from my smart TV and was surprised to see its not hitting my hotspot data!
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Yup, it's pretty awesome!
I need mine to play call of duty online as it is my only option compared to sat Internet and sat has WAY to slow of ping times so binge on doesn't really help however my wife loves it for her Netflix lol so need to getaround t mobile knowing if I'm tethering and I can't use a Vpn I don't use a **** ton maybe 50gb a month so I shouldn't ever get looked into as some ppl who do it are rude data hogs using even in the tb range ..... But if anyone knows how PLEASE help me I don't want to go crapple but iOS jailbreak has tether me and it works perfectly also on my galaxy note 3 I had unlimited tethering but i had to change a build file now I'm not a dev so I'm not gonna try to understand what I did or am doing but I am good at fallowing YouTube lol and have cought on to some things on my own